Casino Royale Discussion (Post Viewing)
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As we have the topics
Note: Spolier: Casino Royale Reviews - (which are for reviews only, not discussion)
and
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can we have a
'Note: Spolier: Casino Royale Post View Discussion' Topic, for those that have seen the film and want to talk in depth about outstanding scenes, performances or ask questions about scenes they didn't understand or require clarification on?
This would keep all three threads at the top of the page and would also keep it central and avoid loads of threads such as 'did u spot ...?' or 'in his car ...' etc.
Or just use this one...
Thanx
As we have the topics
Note: Spolier: Casino Royale Reviews - (which are for reviews only, not discussion)
and
Note: Casino Royale Spolier Free Reviews (where we can't discuss in depth)
can we have a
'Note: Spolier: Casino Royale Post View Discussion' Topic, for those that have seen the film and want to talk in depth about outstanding scenes, performances or ask questions about scenes they didn't understand or require clarification on?
This would keep all three threads at the top of the page and would also keep it central and avoid loads of threads such as 'did u spot ...?' or 'in his car ...' etc.
Or just use this one...
Thanx
Comments
His best performance ever, I'd say, and possibly the best portrayal of Bond ever seen. His charisma was magnetic, and I really can't say so much for Connery even.
I think he's my favourite Bond. Sure, its the 'just seen it' buzz, but his performance was so fantastic that I can't see my opinion of it dropping far.
Klassik between Le Chiffre and Bond, when he said 'is it mr Beauchamp or mr bond, i get confused.
Well we wouldn't want that know would we -
or to tat effect.
The product placements did not bother me as much as some members of AJB, I guess some would prefer that black tape be placed over vehicle grills, or on cell phone screens, but when you look at an item a brand name is there in plain sight, so just go with it. To me it seems that some fans are being a little nit picky with this matter.
I was surprised that at the theatres first showing of the day on the eastern end of Long Island NY,(firmly known as the way out suburbs of NYC) that about half the theatre was filled with people of assorted ages, and all seemed genuinely excited to be there. I remeber going to see LTK at an afternoon matinee, much closer to the city line, and that time I think there were six people including myself in attendance. During the showing loud laughs were heard at all the appropriate times, and everyone seemed very into the film. In fact I heard an older lady sitting with her husband in front of me say out loud "You go James" during one of the thrilling fight scenes.
Once the filmed ended, very nicely I might add, with the immortal words we all know and love, I counted over 30 people watching the entire roll of the credits as the famous James Bond theme played triumphantly in the background. No doubt like me they were waiting for the final scroll of words to read the following: "James Bond Will Return"
Thanks to the producers for finally giving me a Bond film that ranks right up there with OHMSS, Thunderball, and Goldfinger.
I absolutely love this film in every single way; it's not too long, and it does not lack humor - it's chock full of it! IMO, definitely the best Bond film since OHMSS, and probably the second best of all next to that one. As for Craig...he is a cinematic genius.
Solange was a Proper Bond girl, as in Stunning, exotic looking, nice dressing and basically arm candy for some rich ******. Pity a short role, thet could have used her for another 5 mins.
Did anyone else think that the defibulator in the glove box was gadget of sorts as was his phone detecting the bugging of Le chiffre. Just cos Q or R never gave them to him persoannly, doesn't make them any less useful, does it?
I thought the beginning was interesting, but is that really how the gun barrel sequence originated? If so, why wasn't Craig walking and then turning and shooting like all the other gun barrel sequences. Who exactly were those thugs he was beating up in the bathroom?
I thought Craig did an excellent job playing Bond. I thought the girls were great. This Bond was definitely different and the most unlike any of the others, IMO. IIRC, from what I've read, that is what they intended to do with the series beginning with this film.
as if all these microcommunications devices were so much the tools of a spys trade that unusual attention didnt have to be drawn to them
heres a spoiler Id really like someone to explain:
I know nada about poker
so how exacly did he win that last hand?
the film seems to assume we're all addicted to online gambling...
That moment when Bond says, "A little to the right"---THWACK!!---Bond cries out in agony, and says, "Yes! Thank you...perfect."
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I'm proud to be a fan of this character...and the actor currently portraying him B-)
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
let me give you a link. They were playing Texas Hold'em Poker. Here's the rules:
http://www.pokersyte.com/holdem.htm
Hope this helps
I LOVED Fleming's credit, which almost makes up for his name not preceding the title. Nicely done (not to say overdue!), especially considering the reasonably faithful (and quite detailed in places) adaptation.
Arnold's score- better than his last two. I've deliberately avoided listening to the album so far.
Casino Royale IS a true Bond Movie and Daniel Craig completely and utterly is James Bond.
I love (LOVED) the fact that they avoided using the James Bond theme throughout the whole movie, until the scene at the end when Craig gives the perfect delivery of THAT line. Until then, little 'hints' of it are woven in to the film (loved the bit where he tried on Vesper's tuxedo, for example)but it's never really used.
A brilliant re-boot to the series, fine acting performances throughout and I now cannot wait for Bond 22.
Who now cannot wait for Craig to start his first 'traditional' Bond movie, suited, booted awith the Gunbarrel section in the traditional place, a visit to 'Q' branch and a saucy new Moneypenny?
Casino Royale's got the lot. Action, humour, a cracking script and as someone has already mentioned, gadgets that you can BELIEVE in.
It's the best James Bond film for years, in my humble opinion....
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I don't think I saw the scene from the first trailer where they show a man ripping a card in half.
the source. (Ordering his first Martini, if I recall, was the exact wording from the book.) All in all, if the producers stay along this line, I will definitely like the direction the franchise and future movies is going in. Craig is Bond.
Oh, One thing I forgot to add. This has nothing to do with how good the film is, but it's just one of the little random thoughts I had during the movie. When they are at the table, and playing the final hand, dealer goes around the table one last time. When he gets to the large African-American fellow, he doesn't say a word and just holds up his hand signifying "5." The first thing I thought of is that this guy reminds me of Whisper from LALD. Anybody else make that funny little connection?
I think this was so successful (creatively) because it avoided all the trappings. I don't want the sequels to be a checklist of Bond cliches revisited. I'd rather see them start re-adapting the Fleming stories in a more faithful way, like this film did. (They padded the hell out of the plot, but the tone was pretty great.)
I was just wondering, when you guys went, did anyone else have the experience of everyone in the audience clapping after the movie? CR got the biggest standing ovation in the theater I was in. I've gone to see the movie with four other people up to this point, and all four have said that they thought it was the best Bond movie ever. The two guys I went with last night said that Craig was the best Bond ever.
Anyone else notice Alessandra Ambrosio? I love her. Yum.
FIRST OF ALL AS SOMEONE WHO WAS VERY ANTI CRAIG I FREELY ADMIT HERE AND NOW, AND FOR POSTERITY AND FOR ANY AND ALL KNOWN OR UNKNOWN WORLDS THAT DANIEL CRAIG IS IAN FLEMING’S JAMES BOND!
I was absolutely blown away by the film, Craig nails Bond and does something that no-one since Connery has done and that is brings to the screen the essential 'ice-cold *******-ness' of Bond. As many reviewers have said he really looks like a man who would kill without compunction or remorse. However, saying that, he also makes Bond a human being with all the attendant weaknesses and foibles of a rounded human being. Certain things, he hasn't got into the mix yet, i.e. the suavity of Bond (but, that's more to do with the story as yet and a thankfully complete weeding out of the overly cheesy gourmet/drinksman one-up-manship of some of past films).
Craig's Bond is a professional, and that's something that's been missing for a long time. I'm not denigrating Lazenby, Moore, Dalton or Brosnan btw, each of them had their own merits and their takes on 007 were right for their time but Craig has done something that none of them has done and that is create a totally new view of Bond that holds true to Fleming and yet keeps faith with Connery's creation of the cinematic Bond.
Everything I thought was almost pitch perfect (the only quibbles I have are: the DBS was wasted - that car should return in the next film with a great car chase; the poker scenes needed shortening a bit and more exposition of what was going on; Leiter should have featured more - otherwise great). When it comes out on DVD I hope there will be a director's cut version as it was obviously edited down for time constraints. Eva Green and Caterina Murino - great Bond girls and Mads Mikkelson’s Le Chiffre could have been an all time great villain if he was given more time to inject more menace.
Pure bliss!
They do in the States if they like it and let me tell you they liked it. When Craig spoke the immortal line and the Bond theme started, the theater burst into applause.
They also cheered when Bond told LeChiffre everyone would know LeChiffre died "scratching my ..."
They did in my theater, too.
You know, I said that I thought the title sequence was horrific. Upon second viewing, I really wasn't that bothered by it. I guess I was more disappointed in the fact that they didn't use the original concept with the crime scene photos, the dossier, et. al. I just thought that was such a cool concept, and it wasn't used.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Can you point me to what you're talking about?
additional Fleming content: Vespers body on the road - thats not from Casino Royale, but it is from The Man With The Golden Gun!
the fibrillator scene: this seems very contrived to me - Bond phones home as his heart is stopping, and theres how many technicians there to answer his call? including M? were they all gathered round those monitors all this time just waiting for Bond to have a heart attack? didnt M have any Cabinet Ministers to meet with or Algerian wine to drink at Blades, she felt her time was better spent with the technicians just waiting for Bond to have that heart attack?
and assuming Vesper did know to look for him in the car at that moment, how did she instantly know what was wrong with him and that she needed to press the red button?
if this were Die Another Day that would have all seemed as credible as anything else, but was a surprising lapse in logic for this film
Mathis, good guy or bad guy?:
we just have le chiffre's word Mathis was really his friend, and all his alleged betrayals could just as easily have been Vespers, as they were in the book
he's still alive at the end, apparantly has not been proven guilty, and the conversation Bond has with M mainly is about her satisfaction that he now trusts nobody
but the bit where he's introduced now confuses me: the bit with the police chief, who he claims was working for le Chiffre and he's just now set up - theres betrayal upon betrayal going on here, and we only have his cryptic words to tell us what just happened
I suspect he'll be back for episode 2