I just looked at my original question about biscuits and I think I might have too much free time on my hands.That is,I'm afraid,one of the only downsides to being a millionaire playboy...you find yourself occasionaly asking biscuit related questions on forums...
Obviously I have too much time on my hands also as I am about to join in this terribly important debate. I'm so glad we have a section on this forum for this kind of Nobel prize winning research.
But First ...
Rogue,I just love Danger Mouse !!! I have had many a laugh at DM and his trusty sidekick Penfold.Baron Greenback is a worthy adversary for James Bond. {[]
Back to biscuits ....
They look very similar and seem to have been compared an awful lot. Having never tried a Graham Cracker I cannot give a definitive answer but I will be in US in a short while so will carry out some extensive research. I do know that they are both heavily associated with cheesecake and that Nabisco has a very large shareholding in United Biscuits who operate McVities.
Who would win a fight between Digestive Biscuits and Graham Crackers, on the Moon?
The ring is prepared. The Combatants are ready. In the red corner, skinny and tall, the American Graham Cracker, in the blue, the round and plump British Digestive biscuit. Both are tan and firm, both full of energy, vim and vigour.
The contest of cracker vs biscuit will be over 5 rounds - the winner will be determined by points, or a knockout. Your referee for today is Kevin Weedon, and this long-awaited TransAtlantic Biscuit Challenge will begin directly, after these words from our sponsors...
The Contest
Actually, of course, the referee is biased. I was brought up in England, where the digestive biscuit (McVities!) was clearly king, and didn't taste a Graham until coming to California. I do have a poll running, and will be interested to see how that all runs out.
GoogleFight
Meantime, a few dry statistics. GoogleFight comes up with a win for Graham, with 653,000 results against 20,300 for Digestive. A clear winner, even though there may be a slight bias, what with Graham crackers being an American product, and there being so many more of them than Brits. Googlefighting "American" vs. "British" backs me up.
DRAW It's only fair.
Age
But of course, as with all things British, the Digestive is older, right? Well, actually, NO. According to the site ANiceCupOfTeaAndASitDOwn, "Graham crackers precede the Digestive by some 100 years and were invented by Sylvester Graham, a Presbyterian minister in 1829".
GRAHAM WHich was a big surprise.
Taste
Let's get one thing straight - the American thing called a "biscuit" is actually a scone. The thing you call "cookies" are under discussion here. Where "crackers" comes into this, I have no idea. Comparing the many varieties of both cracker and biscuit is going to be tricky - I know the Macvities diggy bikkie, of course, and one brand of Graham on sale in my local Food Co-op.
According to ANiceCupOfTea..., regarding the Graham (out of the Nabisco stable) "...a Digestive it is not, though both Wifey and I were shocked at how much we liked them...", and the Digestive "The undisputed king of the large diameter biscuits, this is truly an iconic biscuit".
DIGESTIVE And quite right, too.
Health
Now actually, I have to admit to not having the packets ready to hand, so for now, unless some kind soul volunteers to email information about Graham crackers...
DRAW Well, that's all for now.
Versatility
They are both sweet. They both hold cheese, both can be eaten with jam, cream or plain. Both make good cheesecake bases. What's to say? Well, actually, Graham crackers are frequently used in building projects, a la Gingerbread House. And given that they come in different flavours...
GRAHAM by a whisker.
How do they DUNK, eh, boy?
Killer question. Memsahib and me, we both think that the digestive wins this one - the texture is just open enough that it soaks up the tea/coffee quickly, yet firm enough that it doesn't fall apart.
The crackers didnt do as well there - they are slow to absorb, although structurally sound.
DIGESTIVE As any fule kno.
Results
My personal opinion, and that of my dear wife, are that Digestives are the superior in taste and texture. But we'll see. Meantime, do the poll, add your comments.
Poll results are starting to trickle in. Mostly in favour of the Disgestive. Given the US-centric nature of the internet, I'd say this was a conclusive win for the UK champion, yes?
DIGESTIVE All's fair in love and war.
(As an aside, the whole debate about which biscuit to dunk in a mug of tea undoubtedly goes to a Hob Nob )
haha. I'm betting that my buddy Keegan could kick EVERYONE'S butt at Halo...any sort of Halo. As to the Ghram Crackers/Biscuts thing...omg. wow. It reminded me that I haven't had a ghram cracker in YEARS. I must buy a box. hmm *ponders*
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The frustrating thing for me, Pen was that Night's a sneaky bugger...Even when I had him in point blank range and fat for the kill, he still outlasted me as if he had some armor cheat on or something.
I wasn't missing but I was dying. )
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Super armor cheat, haha, I wish. Nah, I just got more headshots than you. And I always had better weapons. You use a single plasma rifle far too often. Much of the time I had a shotgun or sword along with a battle rifle. Or I'd have a SMG/plasma rifle or human pistol dual wield. Or on elongation I had the plasma pistol/battle rifle combo, which is just insane, although I'm not very good with it.
I bet I could beat your friend at Halo 1, Pen. Halo 2 I'm not all that great, most of my friends are, or were when we used to play a lot, better than me. However, nobody beats me at Halo 1.
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Yeah, that might have been it...I know I was shooting you point blank and that Plasma rifle got hot on me(I always hate that). After buying Doom3, I had seriously neglected Halo 2.
I'll take in consideration of your sneakiness next time...Good game.
At least on D3 Live, I'm offered the advantage of darkness to sneak up on prey.
Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
It was funny, I was on the train home the other night and some girl was there who was visiting from Texas - and she was asking someone for directions, etc and they got to talking about the city and the ppl and the differences and she said something to the effect of - "people all move so fast in new york, like theyre always running" lol
its true - i remember visiting north carolina and the generally laid back, slow paced life, even in charlotte.
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D3... there's a game I bought but never played. I mean, I really did not like the multiplayer, much too fast paced for me.
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D3... there's a game I bought but never played. I mean, I really did not like the multiplayer, much too fast paced for me.
That's funny considering how fast you were sneaking up on me. But then of course we were the only two on the map...which I found strange that no one else joined in on...
I seem to do much better on Doom. I love the lighting it offers. A guy can look right at you and not even know he's about to get shot because it's so dark. I love Doom 3.
Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
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I was only really sneaking up on you on Midship.
The first game we played was pretty funny though, I was waiting for you to join and flying around in a Banshee and all the sudden I'm getting shot so I barrel roll and kill you. Then later I force you to come low to kill me when you're in a banshee and I'm on foot, and I steal your Banshee and kill you. Good times.
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Yeah, pretty funny.
Just as long as I left no goose egg on the scoreboard, I can live with it. )
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One's the loneliest number, man. )
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Well maybe there will be more guys on next time to bring my casualty rate down a bit.
Every dog has his day...I just wasn't barking very much this time.
Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
I just looked at my original question about biscuits and I think I might have too much free time on my hands.That is,I'm afraid,one of the only downsides to being a millionaire playboy...you find yourself occasionaly asking biscuit related questions on forums...
Obviously I have too much time on my hands also as I am about to join in this terribly important debate. I'm so glad we have a section on this forum for this kind of Nobel prize winning research.
But First ...
Rogue,I just love Danger Mouse !!! I have had many a laugh at DM and his trusty sidekick Penfold.Baron Greenback is a worthy adversary for James Bond. {[]
Back to biscuits ....
They look very similar and seem to have been compared an awful lot. Having never tried a Graham Cracker I cannot give a definitive answer but I will be in US in a short while so will carry out some extensive research. I do know that they are both heavily associated with cheesecake and that Nabisco has a very large shareholding in United Biscuits who operate McVities.
Who would win a fight between Digestive Biscuits and Graham Crackers, on the Moon?
The ring is prepared. The Combatants are ready. In the red corner, skinny and tall, the American Graham Cracker, in the blue, the round and plump British Digestive biscuit. Both are tan and firm, both full of energy, vim and vigour.
The contest of cracker vs biscuit will be over 5 rounds - the winner will be determined by points, or a knockout. Your referee for today is Kevin Weedon, and this long-awaited TransAtlantic Biscuit Challenge will begin directly, after these words from our sponsors...
The Contest
Actually, of course, the referee is biased. I was brought up in England, where the digestive biscuit (McVities!) was clearly king, and didn't taste a Graham until coming to California. I do have a poll running, and will be interested to see how that all runs out.
GoogleFight
Meantime, a few dry statistics. GoogleFight comes up with a win for Graham, with 653,000 results against 20,300 for Digestive. A clear winner, even though there may be a slight bias, what with Graham crackers being an American product, and there being so many more of them than Brits. Googlefighting "American" vs. "British" backs me up.
DRAW It's only fair.
Age
But of course, as with all things British, the Digestive is older, right? Well, actually, NO. According to the site ANiceCupOfTeaAndASitDOwn, "Graham crackers precede the Digestive by some 100 years and were invented by Sylvester Graham, a Presbyterian minister in 1829".
GRAHAM WHich was a big surprise.
Taste
Let's get one thing straight - the American thing called a "biscuit" is actually a scone. The thing you call "cookies" are under discussion here. Where "crackers" comes into this, I have no idea. Comparing the many varieties of both cracker and biscuit is going to be tricky - I know the Macvities diggy bikkie, of course, and one brand of Graham on sale in my local Food Co-op.
According to ANiceCupOfTea..., regarding the Graham (out of the Nabisco stable) "...a Digestive it is not, though both Wifey and I were shocked at how much we liked them...", and the Digestive "The undisputed king of the large diameter biscuits, this is truly an iconic biscuit".
DIGESTIVE And quite right, too.
Health
Now actually, I have to admit to not having the packets ready to hand, so for now, unless some kind soul volunteers to email information about Graham crackers...
DRAW Well, that's all for now.
Versatility
They are both sweet. They both hold cheese, both can be eaten with jam, cream or plain. Both make good cheesecake bases. What's to say? Well, actually, Graham crackers are frequently used in building projects, a la Gingerbread House. And given that they come in different flavours...
GRAHAM by a whisker.
How do they DUNK, eh, boy?
Killer question. Memsahib and me, we both think that the digestive wins this one - the texture is just open enough that it soaks up the tea/coffee quickly, yet firm enough that it doesn't fall apart.
The crackers didnt do as well there - they are slow to absorb, although structurally sound.
DIGESTIVE As any fule kno.
Results
My personal opinion, and that of my dear wife, are that Digestives are the superior in taste and texture. But we'll see. Meantime, do the poll, add your comments.
Poll results are starting to trickle in. Mostly in favour of the Disgestive. Given the US-centric nature of the internet, I'd say this was a conclusive win for the UK champion, yes?
DIGESTIVE All's fair in love and war.
(As an aside, the whole debate about which biscuit to dunk in a mug of tea undoubtedly goes to a Hob Nob )
Lady Rose,that is one of the finest pieces of biscuit related research I have ever seen.I think it's about time that the scientific community took this subject more seriously and allocated more money for investigation.Perhaps the most suprising fact to emerge here was the cheese holding capacity.People eat digestive biscuits with cheese? Now I know the world has gone mad...
I bet I could beat your friend at Halo 1, Pen. Halo 2 I'm not all that great, most of my friends are, or were when we used to play a lot, better than me. However, nobody beats me at Halo 1.
lol and nobody beets Keegan. you two should play sometime.
Well maybe there will be more guys on next time to bring my casualty rate down a bit.
Every dog has his day...I just wasn't barking very much this time.
Don't feel too bad RA; Night pretty much kicked my butt in Project Gotham 3 last week. I managed to steal away one race but was pretty pathetic the rest of the evening.
Let's face it: we're getting old!
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Don't say that Tony- you kept me on my feet most of the time. Lemme ask you, how on earth did you get to rank one? I'm rank 4, and I've beaten everything on Silver. Is there a way to get extra kudos online or something? Also, how did you get on Gotham TV?
Don't say that Tony- you kept me on my feet most of the time. Lemme ask you, how on earth did you get to rank one? I'm rank 4, and I've beaten everything on Silver. Is there a way to get extra kudos online or something? Also, how did you get on Gotham TV?
I think the rank is based on the number of kudos you get in the single player races, regardless of which races you run or at what difficulty. So theoretically, you could race the same track over and over until you've accumulated the necessary kudos. I got to Rank 1 by racing all the races at Steel, then Bronze, and then Silver. All told that was probably about 80-100 races. I think there's a screen somewhere that tells you how far you are from the next rank.
As for Gotham TV, that was dumb luck. I was playing a ranked race online shortly after I got the game and got a message that it was on Gotham TV; I didn't do anything special. That was back in December/January so there were a lot fewer players and I'm sure that had something to do with it. I think you can improve the odds that you'll be on Gotham TV by trying to race against the higher ranked racers.
And next time we play online, I'm sticking with my trusty Ultima GTR.
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Hehe, that's cool. I'll be trying out my Toyota GT1 or whatever it is called.
I can't wait to unlock the FORD GT90. I love that car.
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To tell you the truth, I rarely hear Brooklyn accents. Very VERY rarely.
Yeah, I noticed yours wasn't as discernable as mine and you haven't lived outside of the stateline for your first 15 years of life.
Before migrating south, mine was worse than it sounded to you. Hell, I'm proud of it but I sometimes stand out down here.
"Where are you frum, sonny? Bawston? Noo York? Ya sound reel big city!" Is all I ever get here. )
With all of the Brooklyn and Queens citizens commuting to the city, I'd expect for you to hear it quite a bit, Night.
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Strangely I don't. I can't hear any accent in my voice, but perhaps I just haven't been around enough out of towners.
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No...you just talk. One very rarely notices how he/she actually sounds. But I have been away long enough to know your's is very even-keel. You could say you were from Vermont and I'd believe it.
Teaching in art in college, I had to curb some of the things that I said and sound more professional...as I do in the office alot now.
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I've had to hone my enunciation skills- ESL tapes are not easy to make.
Comments
Obviously I have too much time on my hands also as I am about to join in this terribly important debate. I'm so glad we have a section on this forum for this kind of Nobel prize winning research.
But First ...
Rogue,I just love Danger Mouse !!! I have had many a laugh at DM and his trusty sidekick Penfold.Baron Greenback is a worthy adversary for James Bond. {[]
Back to biscuits ....
They look very similar and seem to have been compared an awful lot. Having never tried a Graham Cracker I cannot give a definitive answer but I will be in US in a short while so will carry out some extensive research. I do know that they are both heavily associated with cheesecake and that Nabisco has a very large shareholding in United Biscuits who operate McVities.
I did find this though, which made me laugh ...
http://www.wertperch.co.uk/article.php?story=20051214183230967
Who would win a fight between Digestive Biscuits and Graham Crackers, on the Moon?
The ring is prepared. The Combatants are ready. In the red corner, skinny and tall, the American Graham Cracker, in the blue, the round and plump British Digestive biscuit. Both are tan and firm, both full of energy, vim and vigour.
The contest of cracker vs biscuit will be over 5 rounds - the winner will be determined by points, or a knockout. Your referee for today is Kevin Weedon, and this long-awaited TransAtlantic Biscuit Challenge will begin directly, after these words from our sponsors...
The Contest
Actually, of course, the referee is biased. I was brought up in England, where the digestive biscuit (McVities!) was clearly king, and didn't taste a Graham until coming to California. I do have a poll running, and will be interested to see how that all runs out.
GoogleFight
Meantime, a few dry statistics. GoogleFight comes up with a win for Graham, with 653,000 results against 20,300 for Digestive. A clear winner, even though there may be a slight bias, what with Graham crackers being an American product, and there being so many more of them than Brits. Googlefighting "American" vs. "British" backs me up.
DRAW It's only fair.
Age
But of course, as with all things British, the Digestive is older, right? Well, actually, NO. According to the site ANiceCupOfTeaAndASitDOwn, "Graham crackers precede the Digestive by some 100 years and were invented by Sylvester Graham, a Presbyterian minister in 1829".
GRAHAM WHich was a big surprise.
Taste
Let's get one thing straight - the American thing called a "biscuit" is actually a scone. The thing you call "cookies" are under discussion here. Where "crackers" comes into this, I have no idea. Comparing the many varieties of both cracker and biscuit is going to be tricky - I know the Macvities diggy bikkie, of course, and one brand of Graham on sale in my local Food Co-op.
According to ANiceCupOfTea..., regarding the Graham (out of the Nabisco stable) "...a Digestive it is not, though both Wifey and I were shocked at how much we liked them...", and the Digestive "The undisputed king of the large diameter biscuits, this is truly an iconic biscuit".
DIGESTIVE And quite right, too.
Health
Now actually, I have to admit to not having the packets ready to hand, so for now, unless some kind soul volunteers to email information about Graham crackers...
DRAW Well, that's all for now.
Versatility
They are both sweet. They both hold cheese, both can be eaten with jam, cream or plain. Both make good cheesecake bases. What's to say? Well, actually, Graham crackers are frequently used in building projects, a la Gingerbread House. And given that they come in different flavours...
GRAHAM by a whisker.
How do they DUNK, eh, boy?
Killer question. Memsahib and me, we both think that the digestive wins this one - the texture is just open enough that it soaks up the tea/coffee quickly, yet firm enough that it doesn't fall apart.
The crackers didnt do as well there - they are slow to absorb, although structurally sound.
DIGESTIVE As any fule kno.
Results
My personal opinion, and that of my dear wife, are that Digestives are the superior in taste and texture. But we'll see. Meantime, do the poll, add your comments.
Poll results are starting to trickle in. Mostly in favour of the Disgestive. Given the US-centric nature of the internet, I'd say this was a conclusive win for the UK champion, yes?
DIGESTIVE All's fair in love and war.
(As an aside, the whole debate about which biscuit to dunk in a mug of tea undoubtedly goes to a Hob Nob
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
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I think that warrants lots and lots of practice for me... ;%
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
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I wasn't missing but I was dying.
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I bet I could beat your friend at Halo 1, Pen. Halo 2 I'm not all that great, most of my friends are, or were when we used to play a lot, better than me. However, nobody beats me at Halo 1.
I'll take in consideration of your sneakiness next time...Good game.
At least on D3 Live, I'm offered the advantage of darkness to sneak up on prey.
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
its true - i remember visiting north carolina and the generally laid back, slow paced life, even in charlotte.
That's funny considering how fast you were sneaking up on me. But then of course we were the only two on the map...which I found strange that no one else joined in on...
I seem to do much better on Doom. I love the lighting it offers. A guy can look right at you and not even know he's about to get shot because it's so dark. I love Doom 3.
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
The first game we played was pretty funny though, I was waiting for you to join and flying around in a Banshee and all the sudden I'm getting shot so I barrel roll and kill you. Then later I force you to come low to kill me when you're in a banshee and I'm on foot, and I steal your Banshee and kill you. Good times.
Just as long as I left no goose egg on the scoreboard, I can live with it.
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
Every dog has his day...I just wasn't barking very much this time.
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
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I just don't have the extra time, with work and school, to hone my skills on it.
You guys make this board one of the more exciting ones to read here.
Lady Rose,that is one of the finest pieces of biscuit related research I have ever seen.I think it's about time that the scientific community took this subject more seriously and allocated more money for investigation.Perhaps the most suprising fact to emerge here was the cheese holding capacity.People eat digestive biscuits with cheese? Now I know the world has gone mad...
lol and nobody beets Keegan. you two should play sometime.
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Don't feel too bad RA; Night pretty much kicked my butt in Project Gotham 3 last week. I managed to steal away one race but was pretty pathetic the rest of the evening.
Let's face it: we're getting old!
I think the rank is based on the number of kudos you get in the single player races, regardless of which races you run or at what difficulty. So theoretically, you could race the same track over and over until you've accumulated the necessary kudos. I got to Rank 1 by racing all the races at Steel, then Bronze, and then Silver. All told that was probably about 80-100 races. I think there's a screen somewhere that tells you how far you are from the next rank.
As for Gotham TV, that was dumb luck. I was playing a ranked race online shortly after I got the game and got a message that it was on Gotham TV; I didn't do anything special. That was back in December/January so there were a lot fewer players and I'm sure that had something to do with it. I think you can improve the odds that you'll be on Gotham TV by trying to race against the higher ranked racers.
And next time we play online, I'm sticking with my trusty Ultima GTR.
I can't wait to unlock the FORD GT90. I love that car.
As if these Texans here don't give me a hard enough time about how I sound... I've got to hear this from a friend of the same state?
I already have a few co-workers who love to hear me say the word "dog".
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
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Yeah, I noticed yours wasn't as discernable as mine and you haven't lived outside of the stateline for your first 15 years of life.
Before migrating south, mine was worse than it sounded to you. Hell, I'm proud of it but I sometimes stand out down here.
"Where are you frum, sonny? Bawston? Noo York? Ya sound reel big city!" Is all I ever get here.
With all of the Brooklyn and Queens citizens commuting to the city, I'd expect for you to hear it quite a bit, Night.
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
Teaching in art in college, I had to curb some of the things that I said and sound more professional...as I do in the office alot now.
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -