ok, I've become compleatly confused with this thread...woo!!
Hey! Observer! You trying to get yourself Killed?
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Quoting tirpitz:
Which basically means, those who have immigrated and are naturalized can only run when they're in their 50-60's. The usual age in entering high office.
That's the way I understand it. Yes.
Some people would complain even if you hang them with a new rope
Quoting Mr Martini: Quoting tirpitz:
Which basically means, those who have immigrated and are naturalized can only run when they're in their 50-60's. The usual age in entering high office.
Quoting Jedi Master:
Jane Eyre - by Charlotte Bronte
if you ever get the chance to read it, don't...
Well, Jedi Master, have we gone completely random here??
I assume you're talking about a book, though I've never heard of it. You know, that brings up a good subject . . . Perhaps we should make fun of awful books we've read before.
Quoting Jedi Master:
Jane Eyre - by Charlotte Bronte
if you ever get the chance to read it, don't...
Well, in 119 pages this is my first post here (as I have been deliberately avoiding it), BUT I know it's random and all that. However, the above couldn't pass the Pred Spamometer (c Predator 2004) unnnoticed ... perhaps you would like to say WHY people shouldn't read it
Yes forgive me for this but I was reading it at the time and it was around midnight, I was not in the mood for long typing!!
We are being made to read it for English at school and so far (chapter4) it has failed to capture me very much! I think it's among other things, the language (in that it's old fashioned and it's complicated (with VERY long sentences)) and the general tone of the book (Gothic). My teacher compared it to Harry Potter (obviously saying Jane Eyre is millions of times better) but I'm not convinced!
That ok Pred?! I was planning on explaining just not then, as I said, late + Jane Eyre!
JediM
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice and everyone dies.
I know what you mean however. Jane Eyre is not quite Harry Potter! I must admit that I haven't read it since school myself (and that was a long time ago) ... but I was never a particular fan of the Jane Eyre, Sense and Sensibility type of novel, preferring my Steinbeck, Huxley et al.
Spamometer now carefully put away in its carrying case!! I will leave you in peace ...
James you're not funny, I doubt I'm the only one who can see your 'subtle' double meaning. Read my latest post in Irritating Ignorance, I'm getting fed up...
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice and everyone dies.
Quoting Predator:
... but I was never a particular fan of the Jane Eyre, Sense and Sensibility type of novel...
I'm surprised at this, Predator. I'd have thought you would be a big Bronte fan. I can't help but think a man of your literary savvy would enjoy snuggling in between two Bronte Sisters for a cozy evening.
If you want horrible bad books not to read, don't read The Eyes of the Dragon by Stephan King, even tho I'm a big fan of him, he is just not cut out for fantasy books....and he should never try to write it again...*shudder*
I just finished Vanity Fair and am now in the middle of Hamlet.
and no I don't just do this in my spare time it's for school.
But I like Hamlet, now that I've skimed most of it and am rereading to so that I completely understand it. It's taken a while though. Vanity Fair was...Ok, but I wouldn't want to live a Vanity Fair life.
I'd rather be down 'n dirty in the world of James Bond than down'n dirty in the life of Rebecca Sharp and liveing vanity fair.
Quoting one night stand:
I think she was just trying to say that he was batting in the wrong ballpark. It isnt out of his league, it just isnt his team.
Remind me not to use so many baseball analogies next time I say something.
but steve is a bosox fan, another thing I will never forgive him for...he is a high quality author, but only with horror and maybe a few other things...never again will I read a fantasy book by him...never...
Speaking of Stephen King-did you know that he rode in a converted hearse made taxi to get to school in the mornings? Sorry for that random tidbit, but I thought it was rather interesting.
I have got to be in the minority of teenage girls who thinks that all of Jane Austen's books ought to go into the nearest paper shredder. Pride and Prejudice was the equivalent of the pre-Victorian chick flick. I've heard rumors that Elizabeth Bennett is a wonderfully sympathetic heroine, but I've never believed it myself. Mr. Darcy never struck me as being particularly interesting; yes, there's that streak of arrogance in the beginning but it melts away by the end, and everybody's happy. Did Austen really need to waste 250 odd pages about two couples that you know will get married in the end? I found it amazingly predictable and dull going. I really don't find any of the characters' conversations witty.
At least with the Bronte sisters they have interesting weather.
Flattery will get you nowhere, but don't stop trying.
After attending way too many English/American/Hungarian Literature courses, I can honestly claim that during times, I had sickness of letters, and I couldn't read anything. The worst that some of the novels are classics, because they are old. Can't wait until Fleming gets into school curriculum after 200 years.
You make an interesting point, Cat. When shall Ian Fleming's novels be considered classics? The books have survived half a century and are still being printed. As stylishly written as they are, they are a wonderful example of cold war escapism. As old as C.S Forester's Horatio Hornblower novels, they are arguably more popular. The question is this? Does their longevity stem from their own unique and well-written prose, or are they merely riding the coattails of the modern Bond-film success?
I would jump for joy if my school taught Ian Flemming books...i seriously dance...^^ people would think me mad, but its a bit too late to start thinking that...cuz i already am!
Quoting The Cat:
After attending way too many English/American/Hungarian Literature courses, I can honestly claim that during times, I had sickness of letters, and I couldn't read anything. The worst that some of the novels are classics, because they are old. Can't wait until Fleming gets into school curriculum after 200 years.
I know what you mean, Cat. My appreciation for existentialism nearly fell off a cliff after my French lit class was spent hunting for Satrarian symbolism.
"Hey, Garcin is stroking the bronze again in the stage directions! The bronze *obviously* represents the being-in-itself. This obviously connects to the fact that he's dead and can't change his character. He, like the bronze, is cast in time for others to make judgements upon. And like the bronze, he becomes whatever the others make of him."
Come to think of it, I could probably get some more sleep, but I have to merrily analyze the racial ideologies of a bunch of Spokane Indians by Friday.
Flattery will get you nowhere, but don't stop trying.
my English class is controlled by a short blonde lady who hates most of the class except me and my friends (we are the quiet ones, you see) and has a last name ironically of Barron...*sigh*
When I did English, every boy in our class was in love with our english teacher. She was funny, she was cool, she was in her early 20s, and damn was she hot!
Quoting darenhat:
You make an interesting point, Cat. When shall Ian Fleming's novels be considered classics? The books have survived half a century and are still being printed. As stylishly written as they are, they are a wonderful example of cold war escapism. As old as C.S Forester's Horatio Hornblower novels, they are arguably more popular. The question is this? Does their longevity stem from their own unique and well-written prose, or are they merely riding the coattails of the modern Bond-film success?
Interesting points ... Penguin title them 'Classics' but despite the popularity of the films, the novels have never quite reached the same levels of popularity (oh ... stirring a hornets' nest!). There is no reason though to think that they couldn't reach the same level as novels by Greene or Steinbeck or Lee or any number of 20th century 'populist' authors.
Anyway, I remember when I was at school that during our O levels (for 16 year-olds) during our English Lit exams we were allowed to study at least one novel that was outside of the curriculum. Is this still the case now? If so, who's to say that students can't pick Fleming as a subject for discussion. The more Fleming is discussed, the more he will be thought of as a author of classic books.
Quoting Tracy:
Come to think of it, I could probably get some more sleep, but I have to merrily analyze the racial ideologies of a bunch of Spokane Indians by Friday.
) What more can I say than )
Quoting LBTV:
When I did English, every boy in our class was in love with our english teacher. She was funny, she was cool, she was in her early 20s, and damn was she hot!
Hey I must know you, we had an english teacher to that description for a while, although if you were in my class you'd still be doing English! Never mind, it was nice while it lasted!
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice and everyone dies.
Quoting Predator:
Penguin title them 'Classics' but despite the popularity of the films, the novels have never quite reached the same levels of popularity.
I would say BECAUSE of the popularty, not despite...
Classics = Boring (in way too many cases)
Anyway, I started a thread on this in the Literature, cause it's not 'random' enough.
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That's the way I understand it. Yes.
Not the way I do.
if you ever get the chance to read it, don't...
I assume you're talking about a book, though I've never heard of it. You know, that brings up a good subject . . . Perhaps we should make fun of awful books we've read before.
Well, in 119 pages this is my first post here (as I have been deliberately avoiding it), BUT I know it's random and all that. However, the above couldn't pass the Pred Spamometer (c Predator 2004) unnnoticed ... perhaps you would like to say WHY people shouldn't read it
We are being made to read it for English at school and so far (chapter4) it has failed to capture me very much! I think it's among other things, the language (in that it's old fashioned and it's complicated (with VERY long sentences)) and the general tone of the book (Gothic). My teacher compared it to Harry Potter (obviously saying Jane Eyre is millions of times better) but I'm not convinced!
That ok Pred?! I was planning on explaining just not then, as I said, late + Jane Eyre!
JediM
I know what you mean however. Jane Eyre is not quite Harry Potter! I must admit that I haven't read it since school myself (and that was a long time ago) ... but I was never a particular fan of the Jane Eyre, Sense and Sensibility type of novel, preferring my Steinbeck, Huxley et al.
Spamometer now carefully put away in its carrying case!! I will leave you in peace ...
Jedi I thought that you would love a book like that!
Don't jump to conclusions impetuous jedi!
I'm surprised at this, Predator. I'd have thought you would be a big Bronte fan. I can't help but think a man of your literary savvy would enjoy snuggling in between two Bronte Sisters for a cozy evening.
I'm talking about their books, of course.
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Remind me not to use so many baseball analogies next time I say something.
and no I don't just do this in my spare time it's for school.
But I like Hamlet, now that I've skimed most of it and am rereading to so that I completely understand it. It's taken a while though. Vanity Fair was...Ok, but I wouldn't want to live a Vanity Fair life.
I'd rather be down 'n dirty in the world of James Bond than down'n dirty in the life of Rebecca Sharp and liveing vanity fair.
but steve is a bosox fan, another thing I will never forgive him for...he is a high quality author, but only with horror and maybe a few other things...never again will I read a fantasy book by him...never...
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I have got to be in the minority of teenage girls who thinks that all of Jane Austen's books ought to go into the nearest paper shredder. Pride and Prejudice was the equivalent of the pre-Victorian chick flick. I've heard rumors that Elizabeth Bennett is a wonderfully sympathetic heroine, but I've never believed it myself. Mr. Darcy never struck me as being particularly interesting; yes, there's that streak of arrogance in the beginning but it melts away by the end, and everybody's happy. Did Austen really need to waste 250 odd pages about two couples that you know will get married in the end? I found it amazingly predictable and dull going. I really don't find any of the characters' conversations witty.
At least with the Bronte sisters they have interesting weather.
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I know what you mean, Cat. My appreciation for existentialism nearly fell off a cliff after my French lit class was spent hunting for Satrarian symbolism.
"Hey, Garcin is stroking the bronze again in the stage directions! The bronze *obviously* represents the being-in-itself. This obviously connects to the fact that he's dead and can't change his character. He, like the bronze, is cast in time for others to make judgements upon. And like the bronze, he becomes whatever the others make of him."
Come to think of it, I could probably get some more sleep, but I have to merrily analyze the racial ideologies of a bunch of Spokane Indians by Friday.
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Interesting points ... Penguin title them 'Classics' but despite the popularity of the films, the novels have never quite reached the same levels of popularity (oh ... stirring a hornets' nest!). There is no reason though to think that they couldn't reach the same level as novels by Greene or Steinbeck or Lee or any number of 20th century 'populist' authors.
Anyway, I remember when I was at school that during our O levels (for 16 year-olds) during our English Lit exams we were allowed to study at least one novel that was outside of the curriculum. Is this still the case now? If so, who's to say that students can't pick Fleming as a subject for discussion. The more Fleming is discussed, the more he will be thought of as a author of classic books.
Hey I must know you, we had an english teacher to that description for a while, although if you were in my class you'd still be doing English! Never mind, it was nice while it lasted!
I would say BECAUSE of the popularty, not despite...
Classics = Boring (in way too many cases)
Anyway, I started a thread on this in the Literature, cause it's not 'random' enough.