I find Richard W's account of the making of FYEO revelatory and fascinating, can I ask where you get your info?
I corresponded with Richard Maibaum, about the craft of screenwriting in general, and specifically about the Bond scripts. I never met him personally, although I spoke to him once, and he lived only about 9 miles from me. He seemed to have strong feelings about FYEO.
Especially since Richard Maibaum in numerous published sources said that he and Wilson wrote the script together, side-by-side, which was the first time he'd ever done such a collaboration. We had another member who used to expound the same "Wilson ruined Maibaum's script" argument (what was his name again? Rick? Ricardo?), but it wasn't his lack of real, documented hard evidence that got him in trouble at AJB. . .
I'm aware of the professional face Richard Maibaum put on in interviews, which is to be expected. Perhaps I should not have mentioned any of this.
I'm not the other fellow you're referring to, however, I did post similar comments in the Home Theater Forum a couple of years ago. Maybe you saw it there. I started posting at the other Bond forum but a couple of the regulars got so ugly I left. Some opinions and points of view are simply not permitted.
If you have to make a fuss over my comments, the administrators may delete them.
Richard
The top 7 Bond films: 1) Dr No. 2) From Russia With Love. 3) Thunderball. 4) On Her Majesty's Secret Service. 5) For Your Eyes Only. 6) The Living Daylights. 7) Licence to Kill.
Well, at least you can't use the line "This Never Happened to the Other Fellow...."
In any event I find your posts entertaining. I think most opinions and points of view are permitted on this site, plenty who don't like FYEO (a jetsetwilly listed reasons for making it his least favourite or thereabouts) and plenty who don't like CR.
Well, I like FOR YOUR EYES ONLY in spite of its flaws, and I despise CASINO ROYALE for its disloyalty and for its inappropriate agenda. I wonder if some people just aren't processing the film, or if they're only responding to the action.
Richard
The top 7 Bond films: 1) Dr No. 2) From Russia With Love. 3) Thunderball. 4) On Her Majesty's Secret Service. 5) For Your Eyes Only. 6) The Living Daylights. 7) Licence to Kill.
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...and I despise CASINO ROYALE for its disloyalty and for its inappropriate agenda. I wonder if some people just aren't processing the film, or if they're only responding to the action.
Richard
Or perhaps MOST people just liked a bloody good Bond film ? And they certainly don't like being patronised.
...and I despise CASINO ROYALE for its disloyalty and for its inappropriate agenda. I wonder if some people just aren't processing the film, or if they're only responding to the action.
Richard
Or perhaps MOST people just liked a bloody good Bond film ? And they certainly don't like being patronised.
...and I despise CASINO ROYALE for its disloyalty and for its inappropriate agenda. I wonder if some people just aren't processing the film, or if they're only responding to the action.
Richard
Or perhaps MOST people just liked a bloody good Bond film ? And they certainly don't like being patronised.
Or is that view not allowed or permitted ?
I agree 100%. CASINO ROYALE is patronizing every time Judi Dench opens her mouth.
The very idea that M needs to follow James Bond across the globe to teach him how to be a better man and a kinder, gentler spy is certainly patronizing. She excoriates him in dialogue borrowed from the Oprah Winfrey Show where the gals together every day to roast men. It poisons the character interaction and takes the fun out of the action sequences. You leave the theater feeling as if you sat through a lecture instead of a James Bond movie.
Richard
The top 7 Bond films: 1) Dr No. 2) From Russia With Love. 3) Thunderball. 4) On Her Majesty's Secret Service. 5) For Your Eyes Only. 6) The Living Daylights. 7) Licence to Kill.
No, YOU left the theater feeling as if YOU just sat through a lecture. I left the theater feeling like I had just seen the best James Bond movie I had seen in years. And yes, I have read many of the Ian Fleming novels, and quite frankly I don't feel any of the cinematic incarnations of 007 come off as he does in the books. But James Bond movies are a totally different animal, and as a James Bond movie Casino Royale does just fine. Especially considering that it was intended to take us back to Bond's beginnings as a "00". It doesn't seem that far-fetched to me that "M" would feel the need to monitor him more closely, especially if she felt he was dangerously undisciplined but with a tremendous potential for growth. That's the way I took it, and I didn't feel I was being patronized at all.
...and I despise CASINO ROYALE for its disloyalty and for its inappropriate agenda. I wonder if some people just aren't processing the film, or if they're only responding to the action.
Richard
Or perhaps MOST people just liked a bloody good Bond film ? And they certainly don't like being patronised.
Or is that view not allowed or permitted ?
I agree 100%. CASINO ROYALE is patronizing every time Judi Dench opens her mouth.
The very idea that M needs to follow James Bond across the globe to teach him how to be a better man and a kinder, gentler spy is certainly patronizing. She excoriates him in dialogue borrowed from the Oprah Winfrey Show where the gals together every day to roast men. It poisons the character interaction and takes the fun out of the action sequences. You leave the theater feeling as if you sat through a lecture instead of a James Bond movie.
Richard
"Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley."
Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,757Chief of Staff
Although it is a start to admit 100% that you were patronising.
I didn't say that. Further, you know I didn't say that. I am not the least bit patronizing.
The only patronizing, disharmonious voice here is yours'.
Richard
The top 7 Bond films: 1) Dr No. 2) From Russia With Love. 3) Thunderball. 4) On Her Majesty's Secret Service. 5) For Your Eyes Only. 6) The Living Daylights. 7) Licence to Kill.
Well.........not quite! You probably didn't intend to sound patronizing, but I can certainly see how your musings about whether those of us who enjoyed Casino Royale were actually "processing the film" or only "responding to the action" could be taken as patronizing. All opinions regarding Bond films are welcomed here, so how about if we just say we disagree on this one, okay?
I criticize the films and filmmakers. Everybody does, but I don't criticize anyone forum member personally for holding different views.
You think you have the right to attack a forum member who expresses opinions you don't like.
That is inappropriate conduct.
Stop the personal attacks.
You are downright bloody rude about the films and film-makers....way beyond 'criticising' in fact.
No. I have the right to STOP a forum member who is causing trouble. The 'opinions' of that member don't matter to a large extent...it's the trouble they cause that matters.
Before i really started to get into james bond a couple of years ago, i would have said the Connery films. For some reason i didn't like them at all even though i hadn't really seen any of them. Then when i was at summer school pretty much by myself at my university i started to watch the classics (DAF actually got me hooked) during a marathon type thing on tv, and my opinion quickly started to change.
I don't like to think any of them are overrated, because i think there is a reason to like every bond movie, especially considering that people have such different tastes. However, if i had to pick i'd say that i don't really understand the amount of praise that OHMSS gets. I'll admit that i've watched it probably three or four times, and every time it has gotten a little better in my mind, but i still can't find myself ever wanting to watch it like so many other bond movies. I can totally understand why people like it, but for me i just don't like Lazenby, at all. I find the pacing of the film really off, Blofeld himself and his plan just don't seem menacing enough, and i just couldn't get into the whole bond getting married thing, it just didn't seem believable to me. I also really didn't like the whole lineage thing with Blofeld and bond being undercover.
Anyway, that's just my personal opinion, and i know you could dislike a lot of bond movies for the same reasons i don't really like OHMSS, but then again maybe i just need to watch it a few more times.
well, as this was the case in the "Bart Simpson - case" minus one single mod , I thought, that it'll get worse, if I behaved like RR which he does unharmed.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
A couple of you are becoming abusive.
Let's get something straight: I'm not Riccardo, and I'm not RR. I don't know who you're talking about when you bring up those people. My real name is Richard, and my real last name begins with W. I'm new here, but I've been a regular on Home Theater Forum for about five years.
Further, my posts here have been courteous, polite, and in a spirit of good will.
Richard
The top 7 Bond films: 1) Dr No. 2) From Russia With Love. 3) Thunderball. 4) On Her Majesty's Secret Service. 5) For Your Eyes Only. 6) The Living Daylights. 7) Licence to Kill.
A couple of you are becoming abusive.
Let's get something straight: I'm not Riccardo, and I'm not RR. I don't know who you're talking about when you bring up those people. My real name is Richard, and my real last name begins with W. I'm new here, but I've been a regular on Home Theater Forum for about five years.
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I corresponded with Richard Maibaum, about the craft of screenwriting in general, and specifically about the Bond scripts. I never met him personally, although I spoke to him once, and he lived only about 9 miles from me. He seemed to have strong feelings about FYEO.
I'm aware of the professional face Richard Maibaum put on in interviews, which is to be expected. Perhaps I should not have mentioned any of this.
I'm not the other fellow you're referring to, however, I did post similar comments in the Home Theater Forum a couple of years ago. Maybe you saw it there. I started posting at the other Bond forum but a couple of the regulars got so ugly I left. Some opinions and points of view are simply not permitted.
If you have to make a fuss over my comments, the administrators may delete them.
Richard
In any event I find your posts entertaining. I think most opinions and points of view are permitted on this site, plenty who don't like FYEO (a jetsetwilly listed reasons for making it his least favourite or thereabouts) and plenty who don't like CR.
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Richard
Or perhaps MOST people just liked a bloody good Bond film ? And they certainly don't like being patronised.
Or is that view not allowed or permitted ?
I agree 100%. CASINO ROYALE is patronizing every time Judi Dench opens her mouth.
The very idea that M needs to follow James Bond across the globe to teach him how to be a better man and a kinder, gentler spy is certainly patronizing. She excoriates him in dialogue borrowed from the Oprah Winfrey Show where the gals together every day to roast men. It poisons the character interaction and takes the fun out of the action sequences. You leave the theater feeling as if you sat through a lecture instead of a James Bond movie.
Richard
I fear you will have to remove more of your posts than just that one to restore peace and harmony.... !
Although it is a start to admit 100% that you were patronising.
Roger Moore 1927-2017
Well...knowing that you don't find CR at all patronising...of course
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
No, I think you are the one who should stop being disruptive.
I criticize the films and filmmakers. Everybody does, but I don't criticize anyone forum member personally for holding different views.
You think you have the right to attack a forum member who expresses opinions you don't like.
That is inappropriate conduct.
Stop the personal attacks.
I didn't say that. Further, you know I didn't say that. I am not the least bit patronizing.
The only patronizing, disharmonious voice here is yours'.
Richard
I'm afraid so...
How am I being disruptive ?
You are downright bloody rude about the films and film-makers....way beyond 'criticising' in fact.
No. I have the right to STOP a forum member who is causing trouble. The 'opinions' of that member don't matter to a large extent...it's the trouble they cause that matters.
Where do I personally attack you ?
Maybe not...but you were happy to ignore the true meaning of one of my posts....and when it happens back...you don't like it.
This is a Final Warning. Behave yourself or leave...or you will be removed - AGAIN.
I don't like to think any of them are overrated, because i think there is a reason to like every bond movie, especially considering that people have such different tastes. However, if i had to pick i'd say that i don't really understand the amount of praise that OHMSS gets. I'll admit that i've watched it probably three or four times, and every time it has gotten a little better in my mind, but i still can't find myself ever wanting to watch it like so many other bond movies. I can totally understand why people like it, but for me i just don't like Lazenby, at all. I find the pacing of the film really off, Blofeld himself and his plan just don't seem menacing enough, and i just couldn't get into the whole bond getting married thing, it just didn't seem believable to me. I also really didn't like the whole lineage thing with Blofeld and bond being undercover.
Anyway, that's just my personal opinion, and i know you could dislike a lot of bond movies for the same reasons i don't really like OHMSS, but then again maybe i just need to watch it a few more times.
"Notice, Watson, how he no longer pretends NOT to be Rick Roberts..."
Roger Moore 1927-2017
So, why don't we simply get the rat overboard?
If I would behave like this, I am sure, the entire mods team would be chasing me down. What kind of protection does that idiot have here?
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
(Sings) "I'd like to say a word on his behalf!"
"Then say it, Sister Magaretta!"
"Rick Roberts - makes me - laugh!!!!!!" (nuns giggling)
"How do we solve a problem like Rick Roberts?"
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The entire mod team ? Really bondtoys ? A tad over-dramatic I think
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
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Not 100% accurate
But not far off...
As for RR, Ricardo, R-W....well, we do try and give second chances here at AJB...and quite often third, fourth and fifth
Let's get something straight: I'm not Riccardo, and I'm not RR. I don't know who you're talking about when you bring up those people. My real name is Richard, and my real last name begins with W. I'm new here, but I've been a regular on Home Theater Forum for about five years.
Further, my posts here have been courteous, polite, and in a spirit of good will.
Richard
Good to know that there are 3rd and 4th chances, let the rant begin....
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
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"You persist in trying to provoke me, ajb..."
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