Sorry, but none of that changes the fact that to me Moore is totally unconvincing in most of his action scenes and in all of his fight scenes. That's one of the main reasons it's so difficult for me to accept him as Bond.
You can't blame Moore for that. He isn't in most of his fight scenes!
Sorry, but none of that changes the fact that to me Moore is totally unconvincing in most of his action scenes and in all of his fight scenes. That's one of the main reasons it's so difficult for me to accept him as Bond.
You can't blame Moore for that. He isn't in most of his fight scenes!
True, and the parts of those scenes that he is in are the least convincing parts!
Just for fun, another ranking of James Bond films by Peter Travers of Rolling Stone. Although I'm with him on several of his top picks, I think he's way off base with his dismissive attitude toward the Dalton and Brosnan films.
Watching the ranks of the Bond films, i am always amazed when I see the lists and how different they are from another. For example, you start the list from the top and you see: 1 FRWL and you think: great choice! and than you see number 2: Octopussy and you think: What the....? and you go to the bottom and you see for example OHMSS.
It is ALWAYS a mixed bag I think. Some come close, but than you have a personaly guilty pleasure (or 2) that you rank much higher than Joe Public does. Itis fascinating, there is really no consensus at all, even among the die hard fans (us!)
Watching the ranks of the Bond films, i am always amazed when I see the lists and how different they are from another. For example, you start the list from the top and you see: 1 FRWL and you think: great choice! and than you see number 2: Octopussy and you think: What the....? and you go to the bottom and you see for example OHMSS.
It is ALWAYS a mixed bag I think. Some come close, but than you have a personaly guilty pleasure (or 2) that you rank much higher than Joe Public does. Itis fascinating, there is really no consensus at all, even among the die hard fans (us!)
Indeed. I don't think that there would be two identical lists on this forum (assuming one were to take the time to compare all of the lists posted)!
I don't think that there would be two identical lists on this forum (assuming one were to take the time to compare all of the lists posted)!
There does seem to be a reasonably general consensus that the 60's Bonds, Dalton's & Craig's movies are the most highly regarded, though I personally include a Moore & Brosnan flick or two in with that bunch.
Part of the problem with consensus too, is that lists shift and change over time. As a kid, I wasn't as big a fan of TMWTGG and would have had Moonraker much higher than it is now. But as you see, TMWTGG is one of my favourites while Moonraker, still fun to watch, is much much lower.
And I could see my lists changing over a decade, though by this point I'm sure my bottom half won't change much.
Top Ten Bond - 10:Goldfinger 9:Thunderball 8:The Spy who Loved Me 7:For Your Eyes Only 6: Casino Royale 5:The Man with the Golden Gun 4:Quantum of Solace 3:Licence to Kill 2:Goldeneye 1:The Living Daylights
Very true. My list has shifted also over the years I suppose. OHMSS never made an impression on me as a child, now it is my number 1 or 2, depending on my state of mind )
There is a general consensus for the Connery's, but still you see the most odd mixes in the list, which is pretty funny to see. It is good, it makes this forum alive forever I think. Agree to disagree
Just for fun, another ranking of James Bond films by Peter Travers of Rolling Stone. Although I'm with him on several of his top picks, I think he's way off base with his dismissive attitude toward the Dalton and Brosnan films.
Thanks for the link. Interesting read.
My thoughts:
- I was shocked to see DAD at number 10... the best brosnan? Is he crazy? ) (Each to their own though!)
- I agree that Dalton's 2 films are far too low!
- GF number 1.... yawn, yawn, yawn
Moore doesnt like heights, guns, narrow spaces.....etc.) to play a hard edged Bond.
Disagree..you are talking about the actor personally and what he said & with Moore you never know... he might have been joking.
Roger Moore was a Captain in the Royal Army so he knows guns, & used guns in almost all his films, if he's afraid of heights then he overcame it by being an actor, cuz he was on a high building in TSWLM where he kills Sandor, he was on a cliff in FYEO (excluding the in studio closeups)..he obviously flys in planes to go from country to country to film these things, he was on a very high replica of the Golden Gate Bridge, & to seal the deal he was in outer space. Also I think he was a very ruthless borderline serial killer Bond..that's why his relaxed affable persona is genius. )
Sorry, but none of that changes the fact that to me Moore is totally unconvincing in most of his action scenes and in all of his fight scenes. That's one of the main reasons it's so difficult for me to accept him as Bond.
I agree with the fight scenes. This Youtube video has a fight scene from each Bond actor and Roger Moore is by far the worst at it.
1: Casino Royale 2: Goldeneye 3: Skyfall 4: Octopussy 5: Goldfinger 6: Tomorrow Never Dies 7: The World Is Not Enough 8: The Living Daylights 9: From Russia With Love 10: The Spy Who Loved Me
I agree with the fight scenes. This Youtube video has a fight scene from each Bond actor and Roger Moore is by far the worst at it
Thanks for sharing this, raptors. I think it clearly shows what I have been saying about Moore's fight scenes. Very unconvincing compared to the others.
Just for fun, another ranking of James Bond films by Peter Travers of Rolling Stone. Although I'm with him on several of his top picks, I think he's way off base with his dismissive attitude toward the Dalton and Brosnan films.
An interesting read. Like I stated yesterday, there is no way you can agree with a complete list.
I was happy that the author gave love to YOLT and TSWLM. The love for DAD is of course rediculous, unless his DVD broke down after 1 hour, only than it is understandable.
I do understand the critic for the Dalton movies. Despite that Dalton portrayed the Fleming Bond, the production was quite cheap and Dalton simply lacks movie charisma. However, I will always rate the Dalton movies above 5 out of 7 Moore movies.
The hate for Brosnan I did not get, in my opinion also the order of the ranking was completely opposite to mine. He ranked TND as the lowest and DAD as the highest.
I do agree with the critic on the Moore movies, at least the author understood that Moore, although entertaining, was spoofing the series. And the top 3 of the author is the same as mine. So he definitely got that right.
What I enjoyed most were the comments: Some made perfect sense, some absolutely did not. Once again it shows: We can never completely agree on all the Bond movies.
Peter Travers...what an idiot. There's no point in ranking all the Bond films if you're not even a Bond fan! He doesn't like Brosnan, Dalton, or Moore. I hate how he dismisses entire films based on one small detail.
"Denise Richards as a nuclear scientist? Need I say more?"
"Bond wearing a clown suit. Need I say more?"
etc
My current 10 favorite:
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
Peter Travers...what an idiot. There's no point in ranking all the Bond films if you're not even a Bond fan! He doesn't like Brosnan, Dalton, or Moore. I hate how he dismisses entire films based on one small detail.
"Denise Richards as a nuclear scientist? Need I say more?"
"Bond wearing a clown suit. Need I say more?"
etc
I don't think it is fair to qualify him as not a Bond fan. Also silly details can ruin a (Bond) movie for me also, and vice versa: a movie full of plot holes can still be enjoyable: YOLT and MR to name 2 for me.
The author is definitely of the Connery generation (to which I salute him), which makes it strange that he does not like Dalton movies at all. Although he does have a point that the movies had a cheaper look.
Peter Travers...what an idiot. There's no point in ranking all the Bond films if you're not even a Bond fan! He doesn't like Brosnan, Dalton, or Moore. I hate how he dismisses entire films based on one small detail.
"Denise Richards as a nuclear scientist? Need I say more?"
"Bond wearing a clown suit. Need I say more?"
etc
I agree about his tendency to write off a whole movie without seeming to give any consideration to possible positive attributes. It's annoying.
1. Goldfinger
2. Casino Royale
3. Dr.No
4. Quantam Of Solace
5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
6. Goldeneye
7. Skyfall
8. The Living Daylights
9. Tomorrow Never Dies
10. Thunderball
11. You Only Live Twice
12. From Russia With Love
13. The World Is Not Enough
14. The Spy Who Loved Me
15. For Your Eyes Only
16. A View To A Kill
17. The Man With The Golden Gun
18. Octopussy
19. Die Another Day
20. Live And Let Die
22.Moonraker
23.Diamonds Are Forever
24.Licence To Kill
1. Goldfinger
2. Casino Royale
3. Dr.No
4. Quantam Of Solace
5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
6. Goldeneye
7. Skyfall
8. The Living Daylights
9. Tomorrow Never Dies
10. Thunderball
11. You Only Live Twice
12. From Russia With Love
13. The World Is Not Enough
14. The Spy Who Loved Me
15. For Your Eyes Only
16. A View To A Kill
17. The Man With The Golden Gun
18. Octopussy
19. Die Another Day
20. Live And Let Die
22.Moonraker
23.Diamonds Are Forever
24.Licence To Kill
My absolute favorite Bond movie (LTK) ranked underneath my least favorite Bond movie (DAF)... Damnn! - We Bond fans are so diverse!
Just out of curiousity, why did you rank LTK at the very bottom? (Don't worry, I won't go all fan-boy defending it or anything :P) Also, seeing Quantum of Solace in the top 5 is quite exceptional, would love to hear more about that.
Nice list anyway, always cool to see other people's oppinions.
Thanks for the reply . To me LTK does not feel like a Bond film - it is more like a poor revenge movie (IMVHO). I agree DAF is awful and in many ways is worse, but the way I made my list up was - If I had to sit down and watch a bond film today, which one would I would I choose and in which order. I just find LTK rather boring and unbelievable tbh.
I think Goldfinger will always be number 1 for me (Sean at his best). I do like Daniel Craig as well though, that is why QOS is so high up the list.
Thanks for the reply . To me LTK does not feel like a Bond film - it is more like a poor revenge movie (IMVHO). I agree DAF is awful and in many ways is worse, but the way I made my list up was - If I had to sit down and watch a bond film today, which one would I would I choose and in which order. I just find LTK rather boring and unbelievable tbh.
I think Goldfinger will always be number 1 for me (Sean at his best). I do like Daniel Craig as well though, that is why QOS is so high up the list.
LTK is "unbelievable"? As opposed to all the almost documentary-like Bond films, such as TB, and DAF, and LALD, and TSWLM, and MR, and GE and........well, need I go on? I can understand if LTK isn't your cup of tea, and perhaps it bored you, but to criticize a Bond film for being "unbelievable"? I find that to be very curious.
I’ve been trying to put my updated top 23 with comments together for weeks now but I can’t seem to sort out the middle part. So here is a very quick ranking:
Comments
You can't blame Moore for that. He isn't in most of his fight scenes!
11- TB. 12- OP. 13- LALD. 14- TMWTGG. 15- FYEO. 16- YOLT. 17- TND. 18- QoS.
19- TWINE. 20- AVTAK. 21- MR. 22- DAF. 23- DAD.
True, and the parts of those scenes that he is in are the least convincing parts!
http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/lists/james-bonds-best-and-worst-peter-travers-ranks-all-24-movies-20121109
It is ALWAYS a mixed bag I think. Some come close, but than you have a personaly guilty pleasure (or 2) that you rank much higher than Joe Public does. Itis fascinating, there is really no consensus at all, even among the die hard fans (us!)
1. Connery 2. Craig 3. Brosnan 4. Dalton 5. Lazenby 6. Moore
Indeed. I don't think that there would be two identical lists on this forum (assuming one were to take the time to compare all of the lists posted)!
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
And I could see my lists changing over a decade, though by this point I'm sure my bottom half won't change much.
There is a general consensus for the Connery's, but still you see the most odd mixes in the list, which is pretty funny to see. It is good, it makes this forum alive forever I think. Agree to disagree
1. Connery 2. Craig 3. Brosnan 4. Dalton 5. Lazenby 6. Moore
Thanks for the link. Interesting read.
My thoughts:
- I was shocked to see DAD at number 10... the best brosnan? Is he crazy?
- I agree that Dalton's 2 films are far too low!
- GF number 1.... yawn, yawn, yawn
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
I agree with the fight scenes. This Youtube video has a fight scene from each Bond actor and Roger Moore is by far the worst at it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-bDoEG8skQ&feature=endscreen&NR=1
What do you mean? That one he got right!
An interesting read. Like I stated yesterday, there is no way you can agree with a complete list.
I was happy that the author gave love to YOLT and TSWLM. The love for DAD is of course rediculous, unless his DVD broke down after 1 hour, only than it is understandable.
I do understand the critic for the Dalton movies. Despite that Dalton portrayed the Fleming Bond, the production was quite cheap and Dalton simply lacks movie charisma. However, I will always rate the Dalton movies above 5 out of 7 Moore movies.
The hate for Brosnan I did not get, in my opinion also the order of the ranking was completely opposite to mine. He ranked TND as the lowest and DAD as the highest.
I do agree with the critic on the Moore movies, at least the author understood that Moore, although entertaining, was spoofing the series. And the top 3 of the author is the same as mine. So he definitely got that right.
What I enjoyed most were the comments: Some made perfect sense, some absolutely did not. Once again it shows: We can never completely agree on all the Bond movies.
1. Connery 2. Craig 3. Brosnan 4. Dalton 5. Lazenby 6. Moore
"Denise Richards as a nuclear scientist? Need I say more?"
"Bond wearing a clown suit. Need I say more?"
etc
1. GE 2. MR 3. OP 4. TMWTGG 5. TSWLM 6. TND 7. TWINE 8.DN 9. GF 10. AVTAK
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
I don't think it is fair to qualify him as not a Bond fan. Also silly details can ruin a (Bond) movie for me also, and vice versa: a movie full of plot holes can still be enjoyable: YOLT and MR to name 2 for me.
The author is definitely of the Connery generation (to which I salute him), which makes it strange that he does not like Dalton movies at all. Although he does have a point that the movies had a cheaper look.
1. Connery 2. Craig 3. Brosnan 4. Dalton 5. Lazenby 6. Moore
I agree about his tendency to write off a whole movie without seeming to give any consideration to possible positive attributes. It's annoying.
1. Goldfinger
2. Casino Royale
3. Dr.No
4. Quantam Of Solace
5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
6. Goldeneye
7. Skyfall
8. The Living Daylights
9. Tomorrow Never Dies
10. Thunderball
11. You Only Live Twice
12. From Russia With Love
13. The World Is Not Enough
14. The Spy Who Loved Me
15. For Your Eyes Only
16. A View To A Kill
17. The Man With The Golden Gun
18. Octopussy
19. Die Another Day
20. Live And Let Die
22.Moonraker
23.Diamonds Are Forever
24.Licence To Kill
My absolute favorite Bond movie (LTK) ranked underneath my least favorite Bond movie (DAF)... Damnn!
Just out of curiousity, why did you rank LTK at the very bottom? (Don't worry, I won't go all fan-boy defending it or anything :P) Also, seeing Quantum of Solace in the top 5 is quite exceptional, would love to hear more about that.
Nice list anyway, always cool to see other people's oppinions.
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I think Goldfinger will always be number 1 for me (Sean at his best). I do like Daniel Craig as well though, that is why QOS is so high up the list.
LTK is "unbelievable"? As opposed to all the almost documentary-like Bond films, such as TB, and DAF, and LALD, and TSWLM, and MR, and GE and........well, need I go on? I can understand if LTK isn't your cup of tea, and perhaps it bored you, but to criticize a Bond film for being "unbelievable"? I find that to be very curious.
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#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
-OHMSS
-FRWL
-TSWLM
-TLD
-GE
-DN
-OP
-YOLT
-LALD
-CR
-LTK
-FYEO
-GF
-SF
-TWINE
-MR
-TB
-TMWTGG
-AVTAK
-TND
-DAF
-DAD
-QOS
Shame.
Shame on you.
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
#1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS