Some nice tidbits there HB, thanks for the post. I like the idea of Nolan doing a film version of The Prisoner too; I think he could definitely bring a new and original angle to the project.
I know people are going to hate me for saying this, but my vote for No 6 would go to no other than Dan Craig. He's got the intensity and coldness, for sure, and his eyes are just the right shade of blue. What do you guys think? He just needs to grow his hair a little.
Also, just bought a nice Batman Begins poster, I'll take pics of it later.
I know people are going to hate me for saying this, but my vote for No 6 would go to no other than Dan Craig.
You're right, we do hate you for this.
I have to say, and people will hate me for this, but I have never seen The Prisoner. It's an absolute classic but I have never had an opportunity to watch it.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
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I know people are going to hate me for saying this, but my vote for No 6 would go to no other than Dan Craig.
You're right, we do hate you for this.
I have to say, and people will hate me for this, but I have never seen The Prisoner. It's an absolute classic but I have never had an opportunity to watch it.
Yes, Night. It's safe to say that I hate you, too. How dare you even consider this? And on a Batman board to begin with. ?:)
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Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
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I know people are going to hate me for saying this, but my vote for No 6 would go to no other than Dan Craig. He's got the intensity and coldness, for sure, and his eyes are just the right shade of blue. What do you guys think? He just needs to grow his hair a little.
What a frightening notion. Sorry Night, but Daniel Craig is just too gloomy for me to see him as No. 6. His glum, taciturn, one note delivery puts me to sleep and would pale in comparison to McGoohan's eccentrically quirky performance. {:)
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I know people are going to hate me for saying this, but my vote for No 6 would go to no other than Dan Craig. He's got the intensity and coldness, for sure, and his eyes are just the right shade of blue. What do you guys think? He just needs to grow his hair a little.
What a frightening notion. Sorry Night, but Daniel Craig is just too gloomy for me to see him as No. 6. His glum, taciturn, one note delivery puts me to sleep and would pale in comparison to McGoohan's eccentrically quirky performance. {:)
NIGHTSHOOTER GO GET DRUG TESTED NOW! Oh, God, what a horrid suggestion...
We can get you help, buddy; should we do an intervention, guys?
Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
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Now I'm against te entire remake of The Prisoner to begin with. NOBODY will come close to McGoohan. However, I wouldn't call McGoohan eccentric. He was smart and cold, and Danny seems to be quite capable of that. He looks similar, as well.
Now I'm against te entire remake of The Prisoner to begin with. NOBODY will come close to McGoohan. However, I wouldn't call McGoohan eccentric. He was smart and cold, and Danny seems to be quite capable of that. He looks similar, as well.
Please, name other suggestions for No. 6.
To my eyes, McGoohan was full of little eccentricities in The Prisoner, and I mean that in a good way. Whether it was the way he'd shuffle his fingers after eating a sandwich (Many Happy Returns), or the way he'd suddenly scream out one of his lines (A, B & C), or his awkward, and sometimes uneasy manner around most of the women in the show (Checkmate). That was the beauty of his character, that you never knew what he'd do next.
For what it's worth, I also wish they wouldn't remake this. To my eyes, those original 17 shows are about as close to perfection as you can ever get. And the amazing combination of the Portmerion resort, the quirky characters, and the amazing range of stories can never be recaptured, especially in a two hour movie.
Honestly, nobody pops to mind to succeed Patrick McGoohan. Arthur Pringle's suggestion of Christopher Eccleston is a very good choice as he can bring that combination of menace and quirkiness. But beyond him, I'm really not up on the current talent pool.
Just what I was about to say. He's been mentioned a lot for it, but I think he'd be absolutely perfect. One thing he does fantastically (if you'll excuse the term ) is angry, and Number 6 is always angry!
Watched this movie again tonight, having last seen it in the cinema. A great movie, by far the best Batman. Gotham city (Chicago was used) looks great,
Ah, good ol' YouTube (wonder how much it will change now that it's been bought out by Google?)! I think that, in many ways, the best live-action incarnation of the Joker was in this OnStar commercial, in which the Joker is played by character actor Curtis Armstrong, who's most famous as "Booger" from the Revenge of the Nerds movies. I wouldn't mind it if Heath Ledger's Mr. J is more like this and less like Jack Nicholson.
I have gotten roasted for considering a return to the yellow oval on the chest on certain sites as if it isn't plausible to use anymore being that it would comprimise his stealth advantage. I say that it's wrong; isn't Batman's belt still yellow? As if that wouldn't stand out upon his black garb. Wouldn't a criminal still see him with that strapped around him? ?:)
Maybe I'm just too nostalgic about this issue.
No, you're not being too nostalgic. The fanboys are getting carried away (as they are wont to do). Batman is a fictional character; he has never existed and probably never will exist in the real world. If you start examining his costume and modus operandi, it can all fall apart very quickly.
To be honest; that's where Batman Begins falls apart for me- it treats him too realisitically in a too believable world for me; so that it becomes obvious that this ninja guy dressing up as a Bat is absolutely, completely insane. I can't believe in him as a hero because he's utterly nuts- I worry for him, And yet the film treats him as the hero. In the other movies that wasn't such an issue as it clearly wasn't our world and was a lot more outrageous- this isn't, and he just looks like a dangerous nutter.
To be honest; that's where Batman Begins falls apart for me- it treats him too realisitically in a too believable world for me; so that it becomes obvious that this ninja guy dressing up as a Bat is absolutely, completely insane. I can't believe in him as a hero because he's utterly nuts- I worry for him, And yet the film treats him as the hero. In the other movies that wasn't such an issue as it clearly wasn't our world and was a lot more outrageous- this isn't, and he just looks like a dangerous nutter.
The film makes it clear that he adopts the outfit because he wants to be feared. Plus, although the world is realistic, I don't think the world looks quite as realistic as our world. IMO, one of the best things about the film was the combination of realism and fantasy.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
The film makes it clear that he adopts the outfit because he wants to be feared.
Yes. But. He's still a dangerous nutter. Old Katie Holmes pretty much says as much to his face at the end.
Both of you guys are right in your own perceptions but one can't really look into something like this too seriously; I mean afterall it's a man dressed up like a bat.
I mean if all of us here were given free reign to interpret this comic character on the big screen, in the manner that we envision, there would be something that was questioned as to why you did it this or that way. This is what Nolan saw; as far as I'm concerned, it worked.. (Well with the exception of Bat's cowl)
I simply love this picture so as long as the visuals and subtext keeps me engrossed throughout, then it accomplished its mission.
Of course my Batman bias clearly fuels my convictions for it.
Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
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Both of you guys are right in your own perceptions but one can't really look into something like this too seriously; I mean afterall it's a man dressed up like a bat.
Well, that's my point. I think Nolan did look into it a bit too seriously. I think Dan's right- it's not total reality; Gotham is clearly a slightly different place to anywhere we live; but not by much. And not really enough to make the film a comfortable experience. Keaton's Batman is slightly troubled and quite cool- Bale's Batman is unfortunately a complete nutjob for me.
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Yeah, Em. I too still hold Keaton's version in high regard.
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Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
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Yeah, Em. I too still hold Keaton's version in high regard.
I could never understand all the criticism that Keaton received.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
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I can- he's way too small to be Batman.
Even so, he was intelligent and that made up for it.
Seriously, I consider Keaton to be the best of the cinematic Batmans pre-Bale. (Assuming of course that Adam West who made a TV movie is not considered to be a cinematic Batman. )
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
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Keaton is also thin, unlike a certain Bond we know. Even so, I really liked him.
I STILL believe that if George Clooney was presented with a serious script, he would be the perfect Batman.
I think Nolan did look into it a bit too seriously. I think Dan's right- it's not total reality; Gotham is clearly a slightly different place to anywhere we live; but not by much. And not really enough to make the film a comfortable experience. Keaton's Batman is slightly troubled and quite cool- Bale's Batman is unfortunately a complete nutjob for me.
Actually, I always thought Keaton's Batman was the nuttiest of the bunch. He slept upside down (batlike), challenged the Joker with a poker in his Wayne persona, and was pretty much withdrawn from society. He also killed pretty indiscriminately.
In contrast, Bale's Batman had a very clearly defined moral code. The early scenes showed how he came to understand that not all criminals were evil and some were driven to it out of desperation. And he makes it clear that he will not kill, which is in line with the current comics interpretation of the character
Keaton is also thin, unlike a certain Bond we know. Even so, I really liked him.
I liked Keaton too; but for me his problems were more with his Bruce Wayne persona. Knowing that he'd have a tough time pulling off the suave, dashing billionaire playboy type, he instead opted for a distracted and withdrawn performance. That's pretty far from the books, as was that scene where Wayne (not Batman) goes nuts in Vicki's apartment when the Joker shows up.
I STILL believe that if George Clooney was presented with a serious script, he would be the perfect Batman.
Clooney needed more than a good script. He is, in my mind, the Worst Batman Ever (I sound like Comic Book Guy). First of all, his Batman voice sounded just like his Bruce Wayne voice. Since he was filming B&R and ER at the same time, he couldn't dye his hair and I've never pictured Bruce Wayne as being prematurely gray. And his delivery was typical 90's Clooney: tilt head, snicker like expression, deliver lines looking away from camera. To me, he had no chemistry with anyone in that whole film. Ugh!
Don't get me wrong, Clooney is a great actor and director. I thought he was phenomenal in both capacities in Confessions of a Dangerous Mind (a great movie by the way) but as Batman, even though he seemed an obviously good choice, he never did it for me.
Keaton is also thin, unlike a certain Bond we know. Even so, I really liked him.
We are still talking about Craig aren't we? ?:)
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
I liked Keaton too; but for me his problems were more with his Bruce Wayne persona. Knowing that he'd have a tough time pulling off the suave, dashing billionaire playboy type, he instead opted for a distracted and withdrawn performance.
I don't have a problem with that. His parents had been murdered and he was obviously haunted. I think it's quite appropiate that he would be withdrawn and distracted. Plus, considering that he did romance Kim Basinger, he was suave to a degree.
Since he was filming B&R and ER at the same time, he couldn't dye his hair and I've never pictured Bruce Wayne as being prematurely gray.
Val Kilmer wasn't exactly a pure brunette.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
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West = Cool Bruce Wayne, Cool Batman (It's the 60s...c'mon)
Keaton = Good Bruce Wayne, Great Batman
Kilmer = Fair Bruce Wayne, Poor Batman(nipples don't help)
Clooney = Fair Bruce Wayne, Fair Batman
Bale = Awesome Bruce Wayne, Even More Awesome Batman (Just work on that cowl next time)
I realize that I'll probably get flak for this list; I don't care...Kilmer and Clooney pretty much sucked anyway. The rest are legit.
Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
when exactly did Keaton's Batman kill indiscriminately?
Well in the 1989 movie, Batman blows up Axis Chemicals, killing who knows how many goons and thugs. Also, at the beginning of the movie, the two thugs talk about how Johnny Gobbs was killed after falling off a roof. And in Batman Returns, he attaches a bomb to one of Penguin's thugs and throws him down a manhole, after which we hear the resulting explosion as Batman casually walks away.
Mind you, back in the late 30's Batman did kill in the books, but in the 40's and ever since, the books went out of their way to highlight that Batman would never kill.
Val Kilmer wasn't exactly a pure brunette.
He did go brunette in Batman Forever; the hair was very shiny maybe that's what threw you off. I happened to like his interpretation. His Wayne was charming with the ladies but still riddled with ansgt. And he was smart enough to disguise his voice as Batman. Even though everything around him got more and more outlandish, he pretty much played it straight from start to finish. Also, like Bale, his Batman had a very strong moral code; he wasn't afraid to get tough with the thugs but he would not kill. And he took it upon himself to take Dick Grayson under his wing rather than cast him off to some orphanage. I could have done without the nipples on the Batsuit but that was hardly Kilmer's fault.
My list goes something like this:
Adam West: Great Wayne, Great Batman; as Rogue says, he captured the 60's perfectly. The squarest superhero ever, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Keaton: Fair Wayne, Very Good Batman; I thought he was a little too withdrawn and taciturn. Even the comics Batman was more outgoing than that.
Kilmer: Very Good Wayne, Great Batman; Caught Wayne's angst; his Batman was very true to the books and for the first time in the new movies, he actually had something approaching a working relationship Commissioner Gordon.
Clooney: Terrible Wayne, Terrible Batman; All I saw was George Clooney in a rubber suit, sorry. Too many one liners and absolutely no spark to his performance at all.
Bale: Great Wayne, Great Batman; he caught both sides of the character perfectly and finally gave him a proper backstory. They just need to fix his costume; the cowl needs longer ears and a better mouth. And I want the black bat on the yellow oval dammit!
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Well in the 1989 movie, Batman blows up Axis Chemicals, killing who knows how many goons and thugs. And in Batman Returns, he attaches a bomb to one of Penguin's thugs and throws him down a manhole, after which we hear the resulting explosion.
I rather enjoyed those in a sick way. I recall laughing at the latter... )
Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
Well in the 1989 movie, Batman blows up Axis Chemicals, killing who knows how many goons and thugs. And in Batman Returns, he attaches a bomb to one of Penguin's thugs and throws him down a manhole, after which we hear the resulting explosion.
I rather enjoyed those in a sick way. I recall laughing at the latter... )
I loved it too; it fit Keaton's Batman to a tee. I never objected to it, I'm just pointing it out for Dan's benefit. Somebody needs to get him some comic books.
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Kilmer: Very Good Wayne, Great Batman; Caught Wayne's angst; his Batman was very true to the books and for the first time in the new movies, he actually had something approaching a working relationship Commissioner Gordon.
Y'know I luv ya, Tony and though I cannot agree with you on Kilmer, I will say that he had the best opening sequence in the franchise. I never tire of watching that - it's just the rest of the film...
Bale: Great Wayne, Great Batman; he caught both sides of the character perfectly and finally gave him a proper backstory. They just need to fix his costume; the cowl needs longer ears and a better mouth. And I want the black bat on the yellow oval dammit!
You had issues with the cowl too? Yeah, tack me on for a return to the yellow oval as well.
Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
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I know people are going to hate me for saying this, but my vote for No 6 would go to no other than Dan Craig. He's got the intensity and coldness, for sure, and his eyes are just the right shade of blue. What do you guys think? He just needs to grow his hair a little.
Also, just bought a nice Batman Begins poster, I'll take pics of it later.
I have to say, and people will hate me for this, but I have never seen The Prisoner.
Yes, Night. It's safe to say that I hate you, too. How dare you even consider this? And on a Batman board to begin with. ?:)
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
What a frightening notion. Sorry Night, but Daniel Craig is just too gloomy for me to see him as No. 6. His glum, taciturn, one note delivery puts me to sleep and would pale in comparison to McGoohan's eccentrically quirky performance. {:)
NIGHTSHOOTER GO GET DRUG TESTED NOW! Oh, God, what a horrid suggestion...
We can get you help, buddy; should we do an intervention, guys?
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
Please, name other suggestions for No. 6.
I hope the Craigster is kept away from this one
To my eyes, McGoohan was full of little eccentricities in The Prisoner, and I mean that in a good way. Whether it was the way he'd shuffle his fingers after eating a sandwich (Many Happy Returns), or the way he'd suddenly scream out one of his lines (A, B & C), or his awkward, and sometimes uneasy manner around most of the women in the show (Checkmate). That was the beauty of his character, that you never knew what he'd do next.
For what it's worth, I also wish they wouldn't remake this. To my eyes, those original 17 shows are about as close to perfection as you can ever get. And the amazing combination of the Portmerion resort, the quirky characters, and the amazing range of stories can never be recaptured, especially in a two hour movie.
Honestly, nobody pops to mind to succeed Patrick McGoohan. Arthur Pringle's suggestion of Christopher Eccleston is a very good choice as he can bring that combination of menace and quirkiness. But beyond him, I'm really not up on the current talent pool.
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
Just what I was about to say. He's been mentioned a lot for it, but I think he'd be absolutely perfect. One thing he does fantastically (if you'll excuse the term
Wasn't a lot of it London as well?
Well try this one! Surprising isn't the word!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6E_l4nAi8U
To be honest; that's where Batman Begins falls apart for me- it treats him too realisitically in a too believable world for me; so that it becomes obvious that this ninja guy dressing up as a Bat is absolutely, completely insane. I can't believe in him as a hero because he's utterly nuts- I worry for him, And yet the film treats him as the hero. In the other movies that wasn't such an issue as it clearly wasn't our world and was a lot more outrageous- this isn't, and he just looks like a dangerous nutter.
Yes. But. He's still a dangerous nutter. Old Katie Holmes pretty much says as much to his face at the end.
Both of you guys are right in your own perceptions but one can't really look into something like this too seriously; I mean afterall it's a man dressed up like a bat.
I mean if all of us here were given free reign to interpret this comic character on the big screen, in the manner that we envision, there would be something that was questioned as to why you did it this or that way. This is what Nolan saw; as far as I'm concerned, it worked.. (Well with the exception of Bat's cowl)
I simply love this picture so as long as the visuals and subtext keeps me engrossed throughout, then it accomplished its mission.
Of course my Batman bias clearly fuels my convictions for it.
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
Well, that's my point. I think Nolan did look into it a bit too seriously. I think Dan's right- it's not total reality; Gotham is clearly a slightly different place to anywhere we live; but not by much. And not really enough to make the film a comfortable experience. Keaton's Batman is slightly troubled and quite cool- Bale's Batman is unfortunately a complete nutjob for me.
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
Even so, he was intelligent and that made up for it.
Seriously, I consider Keaton to be the best of the cinematic Batmans pre-Bale. (Assuming of course that Adam West who made a TV movie is not considered to be a cinematic Batman.
I STILL believe that if George Clooney was presented with a serious script, he would be the perfect Batman.
Actually, I always thought Keaton's Batman was the nuttiest of the bunch. He slept upside down (batlike), challenged the Joker with a poker in his Wayne persona, and was pretty much withdrawn from society. He also killed pretty indiscriminately.
In contrast, Bale's Batman had a very clearly defined moral code. The early scenes showed how he came to understand that not all criminals were evil and some were driven to it out of desperation. And he makes it clear that he will not kill, which is in line with the current comics interpretation of the character
I liked Keaton too; but for me his problems were more with his Bruce Wayne persona. Knowing that he'd have a tough time pulling off the suave, dashing billionaire playboy type, he instead opted for a distracted and withdrawn performance. That's pretty far from the books, as was that scene where Wayne (not Batman) goes nuts in Vicki's apartment when the Joker shows up.
Clooney needed more than a good script. He is, in my mind, the Worst Batman Ever (I sound like Comic Book Guy). First of all, his Batman voice sounded just like his Bruce Wayne voice. Since he was filming B&R and ER at the same time, he couldn't dye his hair and I've never pictured Bruce Wayne as being prematurely gray. And his delivery was typical 90's Clooney: tilt head, snicker like expression, deliver lines looking away from camera. To me, he had no chemistry with anyone in that whole film. Ugh!
Don't get me wrong, Clooney is a great actor and director. I thought he was phenomenal in both capacities in Confessions of a Dangerous Mind (a great movie by the way) but as Batman, even though he seemed an obviously good choice, he never did it for me.
I don't have a problem with that. His parents had been murdered and he was obviously haunted. I think it's quite appropiate that he would be withdrawn and distracted. Plus, considering that he did romance Kim Basinger, he was suave to a degree.
Val Kilmer wasn't exactly a pure brunette.
Keaton = Good Bruce Wayne, Great Batman
Kilmer = Fair Bruce Wayne, Poor Batman(nipples don't help)
Clooney = Fair Bruce Wayne, Fair Batman
Bale = Awesome Bruce Wayne, Even More Awesome Batman (Just work on that cowl next time)
I realize that I'll probably get flak for this list; I don't care...Kilmer and Clooney pretty much sucked anyway. The rest are legit.
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
Well in the 1989 movie, Batman blows up Axis Chemicals, killing who knows how many goons and thugs. Also, at the beginning of the movie, the two thugs talk about how Johnny Gobbs was killed after falling off a roof. And in Batman Returns, he attaches a bomb to one of Penguin's thugs and throws him down a manhole, after which we hear the resulting explosion as Batman casually walks away.
Mind you, back in the late 30's Batman did kill in the books, but in the 40's and ever since, the books went out of their way to highlight that Batman would never kill.
He did go brunette in Batman Forever; the hair was very shiny maybe that's what threw you off. I happened to like his interpretation. His Wayne was charming with the ladies but still riddled with ansgt. And he was smart enough to disguise his voice as Batman. Even though everything around him got more and more outlandish, he pretty much played it straight from start to finish. Also, like Bale, his Batman had a very strong moral code; he wasn't afraid to get tough with the thugs but he would not kill. And he took it upon himself to take Dick Grayson under his wing rather than cast him off to some orphanage. I could have done without the nipples on the Batsuit but that was hardly Kilmer's fault.
My list goes something like this:
Adam West: Great Wayne, Great Batman; as Rogue says, he captured the 60's perfectly. The squarest superhero ever, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Keaton: Fair Wayne, Very Good Batman; I thought he was a little too withdrawn and taciturn. Even the comics Batman was more outgoing than that.
Kilmer: Very Good Wayne, Great Batman; Caught Wayne's angst; his Batman was very true to the books and for the first time in the new movies, he actually had something approaching a working relationship Commissioner Gordon.
Clooney: Terrible Wayne, Terrible Batman; All I saw was George Clooney in a rubber suit, sorry. Too many one liners and absolutely no spark to his performance at all.
Bale: Great Wayne, Great Batman; he caught both sides of the character perfectly and finally gave him a proper backstory. They just need to fix his costume; the cowl needs longer ears and a better mouth. And I want the black bat on the yellow oval dammit!
I rather enjoyed those in a sick way. I recall laughing at the latter...
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
I loved it too; it fit Keaton's Batman to a tee. I never objected to it, I'm just pointing it out for Dan's benefit. Somebody needs to get him some comic books.
Y'know I luv ya, Tony and though I cannot agree with you on Kilmer, I will say that he had the best opening sequence in the franchise. I never tire of watching that - it's just the rest of the film...
You had issues with the cowl too? Yeah, tack me on for a return to the yellow oval as well.
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -