In case you're wondering, my previous post used an anagram of the word LUST to describe Fatima.
Hint, it starts with an "S" and ends with a "T" with the "LU" in the middle.
In the 50's, us Yanks had some great shows that were water related, one of the best being SEA HUNT. http://diverlink.com/seahunt/history.htm
I watched that TV show religiously and really liked the underwater fight scenes. I think this may have primed me to fall in love with Thunderball. Looking at Sean in his wet suits and swim trunks was certainly eye-candy for me.
In case you're wondering, my previous post used an anagram of the word LUST to describe Fatima.
Hint, it starts with an "S" and ends with a "T" with the "LU" in the middle.
OUch, thats tough to beat. Its like a grown-up puzzle game. :v
My favorite thing about TB is that I've always felt that Bond does his best spy work in this story. After all, M was going to send Bond to Canada for his assignment had Bond not insisted on following his instincts in tracking down Domino in the Bahamas. B-)
TB is, IMO, overrated. The film doesn't leave much time for character development, and Connery's Bond begins to become the mechanic Superman he really was in YOLT. Still, TB has has Connery (in his last great performance for 18 years), superb score and title music (Tom Jones, baby!), and beatiful women. But thats about it.
NSNA is a much, much better Bond film, in my opinion.
I couldn't for the longest time figure out why on Earth Bond would be found driving a rusty bucket of a car. I figured it out finally. When he lands with the jetpack, he kicks up a bunch of red dust. The dust (duh!!) lands on the Aston Martin. That's why the car looks like it's all rotted out.
I couldn't for the longest time figure out why on Earth Bond would be found driving a rusty bucket of a car. I figured it out finally. When he lands with the jetpack, he kicks up a bunch of red dust. The dust (duh!!) lands on the Aston Martin. That's why the car looks like it's all rotted out.
Did anyone else have this dileama?
) I had that same exact reaction for years! It wasn't until I got the DVD that I realized it was leaves and dust that were covering the venerable DB5, and not rust.
As for TB the film, it's always near the top of my list of favorites. It is a SPECTACLE of a movie with amazing sets, awesome stunts, clever gadgets, a great villain and gorgeous women. The PTS is one of the best ever (if not THE best). Character development is not high on my list of requirements from a movie like this.
And as for Fiona vs. Fatima, I truly love them both but being Italian, Fiona Volpe gets the nod from me as well. Luciana Paluzzi effortlessly combined sexy and evil without being over the top and had an elegance to her that Barbara Carrera could never hope to match.
Of the Bond formula spectacles, this one is by far my favorite. It is, IMO, easily the most fun Bond film. Connery is terrific and not too superhuman as he is in GF, YOLT, and DAF. I LOVE the tropical setting: my favorite Bond setting. Largo is easily one of the best villians. There is a great deal of suspense, which is sorely lacking in many of the other formula movies. The action and underwater scenes are awesome.
But my favorite thing(s) by far about Thunderball are the GIRLS! Claudine Auger (hot!), Luciana Paluzzi(HOT!!!), Molly Peters(yow!), and Martine Bestwicke (SCHAAAAAAAAAAWING! SO HOT! WANT TO TOUCH THE HINEY!) are my favorites by far! These pieces of arse alone are reason enough for me to put in Thunderball.
While Lucianna Paluzzi is attractive, I've never understood the drop-dead gorgeousness people find in her. I find Barbara Carerra much more attractive but one of the most drop-dead gorgeous girls besides Alison Doody is Caroline Munro.
While Lucianna Paluzzi is attractive, I've never understood the drop-dead gorgeousness people find in her. I find Barbara Carerra much more attractive but one of the most drop-dead gorgeous girls besides Alison Doody is Caroline Munro.
To each his own JFF. I still get weak in the knees whenever Luciana gets out of that tub in Thunderball.
Barbara Carrera is a great, exotic beauty; I just don't think NSNA caught that aspect of her personality adequately.
As for Caroline Munro, she's another one that gets my heart pumping. Really fast. I'm talking heart attack here.
Red heads are more fiesty, so ive heard. Ive got a mate with a red sister. Oh la la.
But my reason for liking Fiona better is that Fatima has a wierd death. A proffesional assassin would really work so hard to get a reference from a 00 at gun point?
Red heads are more fiesty, so ive heard. Ive got a mate with a red sister. Oh la la.
But my reason for liking Fiona better is that Fatima has a wierd death. A proffesional assassin would really work so hard to get a reference from a 00 at gun point?
It's very contrived sadly, as it just gives Bond a reason to use the pen.
Thunderball is a lush looking and truely epic bond movie.
My biggest problem with it though is that it actually takes effort to watch it all the way through without your mind wondering off. It's not quite as audience friendly as the films before it or after it.
Snip about 10 minutes out of it (mainly through tighter editing in the underwater scenes) give it a more engaging villain and re-edit the final fight scene to remove the speeded up bits and jump cuts that make it look comical and it would be even better.
Either way it's still a class piece of film making.
Here are my comments copied and pasted across from the Events and Screenings thread, better responed to here if anyone wants
Seeing Thunderball on the big screen put it in a whole new light, not a good light I must say. I even would prefer NSNA than this, and I never thought I'd say that.
It's a rubbish film! I mean, every scene had something daft or incongrous, easily distracting you from the humdrum plot.
Connery's toupe for the first half hour is awful, as bad as in NSNA.
Molly Peters, in the Shrublands scene, plays a voluptous oh dear this got asterixed, rhymes with 'putty' character and is a rather rubbish actress.
The scene where Fiona takes out Lippe is obviously filmed on a deserted race track.
The 007s are briefed in this conference room where the bigwigs all crowd around a tiny desk. The huge painting scrolls up to reveal a screen, but from where the 00s are seated, most of them wouldn't be able to even see it.
Bond comes in to the office without a hat, leaves without one - wouldn't matter but he does actually mention it: "I thought I had a hat when I came in..." Yes mate, you did.
Lots of silly would-be suspenseful scenes that don't actually go anywhere, needlessly convoluted plot. People pulling guns on each other suddenly, then backing down. It's like they don't really trust the film to generate genuine suspense. NSNA was a bit like this, too.
Connery seems to be apeing Michael Caine's mannerisms in this, (in earlier films he was more like Sinatra). A sort of cherubic cheek. He's not like Bond in this film, not even like Connery's Bond for the most part. Nothing like how he was in the first two movies.
What happens to the Peter Lorre fellow in the final scene, who can't swim?
Leiter is a daft yes-man, forever going "You're right, James!" Bond barks orders at him in a demeaning way.
And Bond biffs him on first meeting, as he stands in the doorway. Why? He explains to him "Sorry Felix, but you were about to say 007!" ie you were about to reveal who I was to the hoodlum hidden in the shower... Except he gives this explanation while stood directly over said hoodlum!!
And Bond playing back the creaky old tape recorder to listen to the footsteps of the hoodlum! Utter rubbish. There's more creeping out of hotel rooms and so on than in a sex farce.
All the MI6 scenes look daft and stiff and dated.
The Disco Volante hiding the bomb scenes are superb, a real sense of forboding and atmosphere.
Bond comes across as a preening ninny. Having been outwitted by Fiona he has to say how he didn't enjoy making love to her, a rather stupid response. It's like Frank Drebbin desperately shouting to Priscilla Presley "And I faked every orgasm!"
Domino actress is gorgeous and gives an understated, fine performance, unlike how she seems on TV.
She's handed her brother's necklace or what have you by Bond. She just knows he's dead. Not, er how? She didn't even know he's anything to do with Largo. Unlike the book, the real guy (her brother) is not linked to Spectre... it's implied her brother is the one dead in the water but of course that's the plastic surgery imposter... If I handed you a relative's trappings to imply they've snuffed it, you'd probably want a bit more information. Oh dear.
Bond gets rough with her... thousands of people will die if you don't help, he says. Er, no they won't. The US and British government have already agreed to pay the ransom.
Rubbish exposition at every turn. The scene ends with Domino talking of some hidden place no one is supposed to go, ending... ' maybe it is important.' Yes love.
In the early scenes all the blokes sort of look the same, dark hair and so on. Connery is fighting with his stunt double in the pts, the RAF imposter looks not unlike the American supposedly suspected of embezzlement by Blofeld.
When in that scene the other guy goes up in smoke, the portly fellow seated next to him mopping his brow looks like Terry Scott. You expect him to yell out "Juoooooooon!!"
Why on earth does Blofeld have his cat in there? Is there a kitty litter tray hidden behind the metal screen? Unlike his personal HQ in Venice in FRWL it's all a bit silly.
The whole film has a cheap, on the hoof look about it...
Bond has the same outfit, black shirt brown trousers, craig is shown with in some shots in CR, with the Aston.
No, not nearly as good as on the small screen, ironically. Casino Royale probably won't be as bad as this. Bizarre, I saw Doctor No with an excited open air crowd last year, and it was totally different, a really cool film and a great vibe.
There were only about five people in the whole cinema for this!
I always thought Connery's wig was more obvious in TB than other films. I don't know that should be. Watching TB on tv my main complaints were that it dragged a bit with the underwater sections and had some poor back-projection work at the end. Otherwise I've always had it inside my top ten.
I adore TB. I consider it to be the third best Bond film of all time. I remember clearly seeing it for the first time more than 12 years ago. I loved it then and I love it now. I've discussed it in greater depth earlier in this thread, but I want to make one comment. Connery's toupee was a little obvious but I still consider it to be the second greatest Bond performance of all time. I also think Connery looked better in TB than Lazenby did and Craig does.
TB is IMO a masterpiece that has been surpassed on just two occasions. (FRWL and GF.)
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
I think the underwater scenes slowed the movie down too much. They felt big and slow, nothing near as tight as the scenes in Goldfinger.
What was done above ground I like, very classy and stylish. Also, I felt the explanation for the theft of the nuclear bombs was too long. In the novel (and NSNA) they dont bother having the switch between Francois Derval and Angelo, why have it here?
The original plot might work better now, with the guy maybe radicalised by Islam extremists, and thinking he's carrying out the task for Al Quaida, when it's really Spectre. Or something.
fiona and xenia are My two fav BAD girls + tiffany case but she was a bad good girl other two WERE JUST BAD BAD BAD.yeeha yeap thunderball , while not my personal fav is certainly one of the overall best Bond ever ( was Connery's fav ) also Thunderball was the highest grossing bond after adjusted dollers. It sold more tickets than any other Bond movie over 58 million tickets sold Goldfinger was second with 51 million then third drops all the way down to 37 million with yolt
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That is what I don't like about her. Her clothes are AWFUL.
Hint, it starts with an "S" and ends with a "T" with the "LU" in the middle.
http://diverlink.com/seahunt/history.htm
I watched that TV show religiously and really liked the underwater fight scenes. I think this may have primed me to fall in love with Thunderball. Looking at Sean in his wet suits and swim trunks was certainly eye-candy for me.
OUch, thats tough to beat. Its like a grown-up puzzle game. :v
NSNA is a much, much better Bond film, in my opinion.
Did anyone else have this dileama?
As for TB the film, it's always near the top of my list of favorites. It is a SPECTACLE of a movie with amazing sets, awesome stunts, clever gadgets, a great villain and gorgeous women. The PTS is one of the best ever (if not THE best). Character development is not high on my list of requirements from a movie like this.
And as for Fiona vs. Fatima, I truly love them both but being Italian, Fiona Volpe gets the nod from me as well. Luciana Paluzzi effortlessly combined sexy and evil without being over the top and had an elegance to her that Barbara Carrera could never hope to match.
But my favorite thing(s) by far about Thunderball are the GIRLS! Claudine Auger (hot!), Luciana Paluzzi(HOT!!!), Molly Peters(yow!), and Martine Bestwicke (SCHAAAAAAAAAAWING! SO HOT! WANT TO TOUCH THE HINEY!) are my favorites by far! These pieces of arse alone are reason enough for me to put in Thunderball.
To each his own JFF. I still get weak in the knees whenever Luciana gets out of that tub in Thunderball.
Barbara Carrera is a great, exotic beauty; I just don't think NSNA caught that aspect of her personality adequately.
As for Caroline Munro, she's another one that gets my heart pumping. Really fast. I'm talking heart attack here.
But my reason for liking Fiona better is that Fatima has a wierd death. A proffesional assassin would really work so hard to get a reference from a 00 at gun point?
Thunderball is Connery's best Bond film for many reasons:
1.Connery's best performance as Bond. The casino scene comes to mind as pure Connery-Bond magic!
2.John Barry's score is FANTASTIC!
3.The Location. What is better for Bond than the Bahamas?!
4.Claudine Auger is HOT HOT HOT and plays a good Domino. If I were to rank the Bond girls, she'd definately be in my top 5!
5.Great action scenes. The underwater fight drags on a little, but is still lots of fun.
It's very contrived sadly, as it just gives Bond a reason to use the pen.
My biggest problem with it though is that it actually takes effort to watch it all the way through without your mind wondering off. It's not quite as audience friendly as the films before it or after it.
Snip about 10 minutes out of it (mainly through tighter editing in the underwater scenes) give it a more engaging villain and re-edit the final fight scene to remove the speeded up bits and jump cuts that make it look comical and it would be even better.
Either way it's still a class piece of film making.
I saw it but don't recommend it, see my thread for more.
Roger Moore 1927-2017
Seeing Thunderball on the big screen put it in a whole new light, not a good light I must say. I even would prefer NSNA than this, and I never thought I'd say that.
It's a rubbish film! I mean, every scene had something daft or incongrous, easily distracting you from the humdrum plot.
Connery's toupe for the first half hour is awful, as bad as in NSNA.
Molly Peters, in the Shrublands scene, plays a voluptous oh dear this got asterixed, rhymes with 'putty' character and is a rather rubbish actress.
The scene where Fiona takes out Lippe is obviously filmed on a deserted race track.
The 007s are briefed in this conference room where the bigwigs all crowd around a tiny desk. The huge painting scrolls up to reveal a screen, but from where the 00s are seated, most of them wouldn't be able to even see it.
Bond comes in to the office without a hat, leaves without one - wouldn't matter but he does actually mention it: "I thought I had a hat when I came in..." Yes mate, you did.
Lots of silly would-be suspenseful scenes that don't actually go anywhere, needlessly convoluted plot. People pulling guns on each other suddenly, then backing down. It's like they don't really trust the film to generate genuine suspense. NSNA was a bit like this, too.
Connery seems to be apeing Michael Caine's mannerisms in this, (in earlier films he was more like Sinatra). A sort of cherubic cheek. He's not like Bond in this film, not even like Connery's Bond for the most part. Nothing like how he was in the first two movies.
What happens to the Peter Lorre fellow in the final scene, who can't swim?
Leiter is a daft yes-man, forever going "You're right, James!" Bond barks orders at him in a demeaning way.
And Bond biffs him on first meeting, as he stands in the doorway. Why? He explains to him "Sorry Felix, but you were about to say 007!" ie you were about to reveal who I was to the hoodlum hidden in the shower... Except he gives this explanation while stood directly over said hoodlum!!
And Bond playing back the creaky old tape recorder to listen to the footsteps of the hoodlum! Utter rubbish. There's more creeping out of hotel rooms and so on than in a sex farce.
All the MI6 scenes look daft and stiff and dated.
The Disco Volante hiding the bomb scenes are superb, a real sense of forboding and atmosphere.
Bond comes across as a preening ninny. Having been outwitted by Fiona he has to say how he didn't enjoy making love to her, a rather stupid response. It's like Frank Drebbin desperately shouting to Priscilla Presley "And I faked every orgasm!"
Domino actress is gorgeous and gives an understated, fine performance, unlike how she seems on TV.
She's handed her brother's necklace or what have you by Bond. She just knows he's dead. Not, er how? She didn't even know he's anything to do with Largo. Unlike the book, the real guy (her brother) is not linked to Spectre... it's implied her brother is the one dead in the water but of course that's the plastic surgery imposter... If I handed you a relative's trappings to imply they've snuffed it, you'd probably want a bit more information. Oh dear.
Bond gets rough with her... thousands of people will die if you don't help, he says. Er, no they won't. The US and British government have already agreed to pay the ransom.
Rubbish exposition at every turn. The scene ends with Domino talking of some hidden place no one is supposed to go, ending... ' maybe it is important.' Yes love.
In the early scenes all the blokes sort of look the same, dark hair and so on. Connery is fighting with his stunt double in the pts, the RAF imposter looks not unlike the American supposedly suspected of embezzlement by Blofeld.
When in that scene the other guy goes up in smoke, the portly fellow seated next to him mopping his brow looks like Terry Scott. You expect him to yell out "Juoooooooon!!"
Why on earth does Blofeld have his cat in there? Is there a kitty litter tray hidden behind the metal screen? Unlike his personal HQ in Venice in FRWL it's all a bit silly.
The whole film has a cheap, on the hoof look about it...
Bond has the same outfit, black shirt brown trousers, craig is shown with in some shots in CR, with the Aston.
No, not nearly as good as on the small screen, ironically. Casino Royale probably won't be as bad as this. Bizarre, I saw Doctor No with an excited open air crowd last year, and it was totally different, a really cool film and a great vibe.
There were only about five people in the whole cinema for this!
Roger Moore 1927-2017
TB is IMO a masterpiece that has been surpassed on just two occasions. (FRWL and GF.)
When I first read that sentence, I though it would continue with "second greatest toupee of all time"...
What was done above ground I like, very classy and stylish. Also, I felt the explanation for the theft of the nuclear bombs was too long. In the novel (and NSNA) they dont bother having the switch between Francois Derval and Angelo, why have it here?
Roger Moore 1927-2017