Craig - hope not Dalton'esque
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A comment - won't judge him until the movie. But everyone agrees, including his fans that this is albert Broc's original Bond. troubled, driven, cold.
Remember Dalton, that's why no one liked him. I hope he does have a nice sincere humor towards him. Some say all he's missing is a scar down the face... dude this is not Bond.
By the way, the Bond that world knows and wants is the MOVIE bond, not book. So saying that he's more like the book is not a plus, unless this style works with the movie audience.
But I look forward too all bond movies, blond red, green hair I don't care. I'll judge after. But I wouldn't sign any 2+ movie contracts yet!!!
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Remember Dalton, that's why no one liked him. I hope he does have a nice sincere humor towards him. Some say all he's missing is a scar down the face... dude this is not Bond.
By the way, the Bond that world knows and wants is the MOVIE bond, not book. So saying that he's more like the book is not a plus, unless this style works with the movie audience.
But I look forward too all bond movies, blond red, green hair I don't care. I'll judge after. But I wouldn't sign any 2+ movie contracts yet!!!
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Brosnin
Moore
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In the anti-Dalton crowd, I hope he's not Dalton-esque either and I hope he retain's Pierce Brosnan's suaveness, Sean Connery's toughness, and Roger Moore's wit as that in my opinion makes a perfect Bond.
As we've heard plenty of talk that Casino will see Bond's arrogance explored, I think there's a good chance that Craig's Bond will show the classic self-confidence that Bond needs.
His downfalls, unfortunately were acting the part too flawed and not having a signature hairdo as silly as that may sound. The latter erked me to no end....
What was up with that Dracula look in LTK? Did anyone else realize that he sported three different hair looks in that film alone? He had a haircut by the time his liscense was revoked in the middle of the film and it grew back a day later.
Sorry for getting too far off subject.
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I have a feeling that the humidity of the Bahamas didn't agree with Dalton's hair...something Connery never had to worry about
Well I'll probably do his caricature with that Lugosi-look...
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Robert De Niro, Bela Lugosi, Snuffalupagus, and Paaarker Posey!
I hope Craig doesn't follow in his footsteps. I agree with JFF that having Pierce Brosnan's suaveness, Sean Connery's toughness, and Roger Moore's wit would makes a perfect Bond.
And how freakishly unlikely would it be, at this point, to have such a guy show up---and look like Daniel Craig
Though, to be honest, I don't expect an extra topping of 'suaveness' this time round. Craig will indeed be more suave in #22, I've a hunch (based upon nothing but my own unsubstantiated prognostications) but CR is more about favouring the other two :v Still, IMHO there are ample opportunities for suaveness in the script.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Here's to improbability---one of the cornerstones of "This thing of ours." B-) {[]
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
it´s just like Lazenby... the "worst" Bond n a great movie with a verry important event. Craig has to convice all than James Bond is smoot, clever and ruthless. is his job to do it, he´s was casted according that, he´s getting paid for that no matter how he looks.
Goldeneye should be played by Dalton, just as AWTAK... ( imagine Dalton preformance in that movie, at least you wouldn´t feel weird looking Bond and Staycy scenes...) he had a hard time, but i really like him ( physicaly better in TLD than in LTK)
That, plus attention because of the internet controversy, makes Craig's outing more visible, pre-release, than either of the Dalton films.
As far as 'on topic' goes: Craig not being 'Daltonesque'...I understand the concern, it's a valid one, but as someone here recently said, the project seems to match up better with the actor in this case.
Dalton, at the right age (38 would have been just fine!
The planets simply weren't ever as 'lined-up' for Dalton as they are for the new guy---I do believe that, internet controversy and all.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
How will Daniel Craig be as James Bond?
Average 43%
Great 34%
Bad 23%
Total Votes: 4,982
Tally those up and there are only 25 percent that think he'll be a lousy Bond. Certainly, "average" isn't a ringing endorsement, but it's not a pan of Craig, either. A grade like "average" could change if he kicks ass in the role
Tally those up and there are only 34% that think he'll be a great Bond. Certainly, "average" isn't an outright indictment, but it's not a lift for Craig, either. A grade like "average" could change if he sucks like a brand new Hoover in the role.
True,but Daniel Craig is probably a relative unknown to general audiences,whereas Brosnan had the benefit of being very familiar to most moviegoers by virtue of his role as Remington Steele.He was easy to visualise as 007--just as Roger Moore also was years before, having first become internationally famous as Simon Templar before he became 007.They had well-known images and onscreen personalities which they brought with them to Eon.Unlike Moore and Brosnan,Craig isn't a traditional leading man.
Anytime a 007 actor without a high profile follows one who is well established in the role,he always faces a challenge.I think it's hard to predict how Craig will fare with the public just yet.Obviously based on looks alone,he'll be a dramatic change from Brosnan, and only after CR comes out will Eon learn if they selected the right man for the job or not.
In a roundabout way...my points exactly.
Nice try, Supe. But this time, your usual wit misses its mark because it doesn't address the point: Those who reject Craig out of hand are a distinct minority.
If dismissing him is "out of hand", isn't accepting him "out of hand."
I don't believe either point of view is out of hand. Craig will never be Bond for me, because he doesn't look at all like Bond should look in my opinion. Those who love him (blueman for example) have seen him in role ike Layer cake and can visualize him as Bond. I accept that point of view too.
HH - earlier in this thread you mentioned that Dalton was given Roger Moore scripts to work with. This may have been true in the TLD, but no way is LTK, Roger Moore material.
Dalton was fine by me, I just think he lacked charisma. It comes across the screen or it doesn't. In his case it didn't.
And you highhopes, fail to grasp simple logic. Could you say that those 34% who staunchly support Craig is not a minority? Practicing some fuzzy math there, are you? Subjectivity swings both ways, you know. 8-)
It'd be interesting to get these guys to take a vote on the old Bonds and see what average refers to.
Average may not be 'lighting up the screen' but it certainly isn't a failiure. It isn't going to destroy the idea of James Bond in all these people's eyes- in fact you could say it shows they've quite easily accepted him as Bond. They may not think he'll be the best Bond ever, but being an average Bond (and I'm still not sure which of the previous Bonds were average) does at least mean you are Bond and people can see how you are able to carry that out.
In this case, it must have swung and knocked you unconscious.
The point of my original post was pretty obvious: based on the poll, people find Craig at least tolerable as 007. My interpretation of the poll is based on the common understanding of the word "average" when used in the sense of a rating or a grade: that when something is "average," it is passable, or acceptable, though certainly undistinguished. Based on that understanding, I think it's fair to say that those who find Craig at least acceptable (though certainly no great shakes) are a majority (77 percent). The remainder find Craig unacceptable -- a "bad" Bond. They are a minority of 23 percent. Yes, you could say that only a minority think Craig will be "great," but I think a logistician like yourself will agree that doesn't mean the corresponding majority thinks Craig will be a bad Bond. Those folks are still a minority of 23 percent.
Sorry Supes: no lapse in logic, no fuzzy math. no subjectivity; just Basic Poll Interpretation 101.