Daniel's not exactly a real charmer here. It sounds like he conducted this entire interview with a 2 by 4 wedged up his arse. (and no I don't consider that Bond-like) Ooh can I say that in mixed company? )
The c word, that's simply inappropriate when talking to The Times, a very mainstream paper people will read over their breakfast or on the train. It's also a little over the top in regards to a silly but rather innocuous question, especially since he and the interviewer didn't exactly seem on that chummy a basis for it to be taken as playful. He may have meant it a humorous manner (though nothing else in this entire interview from him is humorous so why start with that?) but it's hardly the height of wit. As said he's not on a building site, he's not even talking to Playboy, Maxim or FHM so it's just inappropriate.
As for the word itself, yes most find it very offensive in and of itself. I'm not one of them. In and of itself I don't find it any more offensive than the word d*** (which he also used, but just comes off less vulgar than c*** or even f*** in these circumstances) It all depends on who's using it and in what context. Outside the UK it's usage is mostly restricted to those using it as the nastiest and most degrading thing one can say about a woman. I don't think Daniel meant it in any way that's misogynistic or maybe even nasty but I also don't think the interviewer was the kind of person he should be using it with -- nor was it the appropriate venue.
The entire tone of the interview is one of discomfort and surliness so the word just feels that much more vulgar and inappropriate. It's not as if the interviewer came loaded for him, quite the contrary- it seemed as if he was trying to charm him and was complimentary of his work but to no avail. The reporter also had intelligent things to ask about Craig's work, which Craig just didn’t seem all that interested in discussing. When he asks the Oscar question at that point he was probably trying to desperately get some kind reaction from Craig. What he got I gather was Craig's attempt at humor. Really it's a bad job all around by Craig and the fact that the article is filled so much with the reporters reactions about what Craig might be thinking etc and how he's reacting to Craig in this instance seems to have more to do with the fact he got basically nothing from Craig as a subject except being glum and close-mouthed.
To be fair every actor has had bad days being interviewed (especially when they're doing them back to back for weeks on end) though it seems like Craig's had more his share than most. But if you're going to have a bad day it's really best not to have it with The Times one month before your film opens.
Since Babs so gleefully declared they're interfering control freaks about everything, maybe they should direct some of that interfering energy into hiring someone to teach Craig how to better conduct interviews.
It has been a word used by chat show host Jonathan Ross a fair bit, usually in humourous insult context with his mate Ricky Gervais. It's bleeped out, but we all know what he's said, so in the UK it does have a humorous ring.
Other words, more offensive these days, are of the racist ilk, such as the n- word etc.
Dan, I've said again and again that I know and agree it's just about the strongest swearword, and I've addressed the meaning behind it with our little 'bloody' skirmish which you failed to understand. It's a shame you can't respect my opinion on it in the same way that I've respected yours and agreed that he shouldn't use it in interviews.
Wait a minute. How have I not respected your opinion? I thought we were having a discussion (in which I never attacked you or your views) about wether or not using the c word was a big deal. You didn't think so and posted accordingly, which I reponded to. However, yes, I do respect your views. I may not agree with them and may occasionally feel quite perplexed that you hold them but I do respect them.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
I think it was a peaceful display of mutual disrespect. The interviewer was keen enough to blatently put down a copy of a book made into a movie that Craig was in as a means to later on indicate that he would never do as well again. Also describing the classic trademark gunbarrel scene as a sphincter (regardless of where the scene takes place in Casino Royale) is a blatent sign of either disinterest in actually writing the story or Bond as a whole.
And as it is writen via the reporter, Craig was already on n'th meeting that day and was hardly in the mood to eat anything much less divulge about what he considered for the role. And supposing how many times he had been asked the same questions in repetition, he was easily more than likely overworked. And the next 39 days won't be any easier for him.
I can't fathom the regulations for British journalism, but everything that I've seen of it has at least a little bit of opinion involved. American journalism has to maintain a fundamental non-partisan approach whenever a story is covered.
I'd like to see a New York Times interview rather and see how that one compares.
Well I regularly call my mother a c****, is just the way we behave in England. Maybe it's different in America.
That was just about the funniest thing I have read on here in a long time. That was a real coffee spluttering moment. Thanks NP |)
As to the word itself, I think MBE summed it up. I don't find it offensive either but it was inappropriate and unnecessary. There are magazines that it would have been fine in but I don't think the Times is one of them.
Em, I don't understand why you defend him so vigorously on this point. It is just a word, but to many it is just about the most offensive word that can be said and can be inflammatory. Its use should be limited to the appropriate circumstances.
Still, if Bond doesn't work out, he could always get a part in The Sopranos
That's pretty inconsistant of yourself- just above you said he never showed any passion at all. Which suggests you've not read many of the recent interviews; all he's shown has been a deep desire to make this film work and an innate understanding of the character.
First, I never actually said that he never showed any passion at all so I don't know where you get an inconsistancy from (although it is just a forum and if I'm not completely consistant, then I can't help it).
Second, I have read all of the interviews that were posted on this site which may not constitute all the interviews that Craig has done, but there you go. I noted he showed passion in his stage work, his TV series and the possibility of winning an Oscar. As for Bond, well, no, none of the things that he has said about Bond have struck me as particularly passionate. The reason I say that is that when he was talking about his stage work and TV series, he displayed much more spontaneous passion than than he did about Bond in any of the interviews that I looked at. As for his deep understanding of the character, well, I'm going to stay away from that.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
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Didn't this happen in a Curb Your Enthusiasm episode?
That's what I was thinking of, actually! The one where they're playing a card game...?
Exactly. And then he got accused of beating his wife. Good episode.
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I'm sure I'm wrong, but...within the context of the interview, I can easily imagine Craig smiling when he calls the interviewer a c***...and the interviewer returning the smile. It seems (to me) to be a moment of levity in an otherwise mostly uncomfortable session---a bit of good-natured ribbing.
Yes, it's locker room banter; yes, I'd say it's inappropriate for a interview with the Times, but for better or worse, profanity figures prominently in The New Guy's offscreen vernacular. Might as well bemoan the overall coarsening of society, of which this is merely a minor symptom.
Personally I don't think journalists are cursed at nearly often enough...If it were the first time the interviewer had ever been called a c***, I'd be most surprised. If so, it was likely overdue :v
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"Good heavens, Tiger! No self-respecting man could get through the day without his battery of four letter words to cope with the roughage of life and let off steam."
- James Bond, You Only Live Twice by Ian Fleming, p.83
"Good heavens, Tiger! No self-respecting man could get through the day without his battery of four letter words to cope with the roughage of life and let off steam."
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Em, I don't understand why you defend him so vigorously on this point. It is just a word, but to many it is just about the most offensive word that can be said and can be inflammatory. Its use should be limited to the appropriate
Because it really doesn't shock me; I just can't get worked up about it. Have a read of the Wikipedia entry on it- it's actually rather fascinating and might help you find it a lot less inflammatory. I just find the prudish worrying over swearwords odd to say the least.
I actually started out on this thread being rather disappointed by Craig in this interview, but have managed to be turned around!
"Good heavens, Tiger! No self-respecting man could get through the day without his battery of four letter words to cope with the roughage of life and let off steam."
- James Bond, You Only Live Twice by Ian Fleming, p.83
:007)
A soft peddling interview with The Times is the roughage of life? Pftt If anyone was having it rough it was the interviewer because Craig was being an intractable sourpuss and bore. If the interviewer had used the c word I'd have been more understanding.
Em, I don't understand why you defend him so vigorously on this point. It is just a word, but to many it is just about the most offensive word that can be said and can be inflammatory. Its use should be limited to the appropriate
Because it really doesn't shock me; I just can't get worked up about it.
It may not shock you, it doesn't me either but I can understand why it upsets some.
That's what I was thinking of, actually! The one where they're playing a card game...?
Exactly. And then he got accused of beating his wife. Good episode.
The even funnier episode is when he is put in charge of writing an obituary for an elderly matriarch of his wife's family and instead of "Beloved Aunt" the paper lists her as "Beloved C---". It has just enough ring of a true story to make it really hilarious.
"Good heavens, Tiger! No self-respecting man could get through the day without his battery of four letter words to cope with the roughage of life and let off steam."
- James Bond, You Only Live Twice by Ian Fleming, p.83
:007)
A soft peddling interview with The Times is the roughage of life? Pftt If anyone was having it rough it was the interviewer because Craig was being an intractable sourpuss and bore. If the interviewer had used the c word I'd have been more understanding.
MBE
Craig probably is such a hardcase to discourage having to do any more interviews. His plan is most likely going to backfire since now every journalist in the world is going to try to think of questions that will utterly irritate him. They're going to look at him like hyenas circle a helpless baby zebra and laugh as they take potshots at "Bond, James Bond".
I don't think the interviewer in this case was interested much in 007 anyway. Probably hoping to illicit intelligent conversation by focusing on Craig's earlier work but still got boorish profane-laced simple sentences for response. If I were the interviewer, I too would start asking some pretty underhanded questions.
Can anyone explain to me the "I made three Tomb Raiders" comment?
well, this is very interesting
I have just read this arguing about cu.t word, here is my take on it
As a Czech I have really no problem with it, the guy (Craig) just showed relaxed way of talking, kind of friendly instigation, if you know what I mean
English sense of humour is very close to my mentality, i´m not neither puritan neither humourless. Of course you can have politically correct speach and have a tie but this is great for dull people. If you are relaxed and open-minded you should live with it.
As i said, I am not English, but it seems pretty OK and I dont understand how some Australian here does not understand it. I thought that Australians are kind of close or like cousin to British (... like this line ... try to say it to Australian or American women, shouldn´t it be ... try to say it to Australian or British women? :-) but I do understand that Australia means strong Croatian etc so maybe I just oversimplify but It is just my established knowledge of history :-)
Can anyone explain to me the "I made three Tomb Raiders" comment?
Glad you brought that up.I didn't get it either.
I think and this is just my guess from the context that he's saying he originally signed up for three Tomb Raiders too. Although he made just one it's not unsual for cast members in franchise like films to be signed to multi deal contracts that aren't always picked up even if there are sequals. So making that kind of long term commitment wasn't new for Bond.
Can anyone explain to me the "I made three Tomb Raiders" comment?
Glad you brought that up.I didn't get it either.
I think and this is just my guess from the context that he's saying he originally signed up for three Tomb Raiders too. Although he made just one it's not unsual for cast members in franchise like films to be signed to multi deal contracts that aren't always picked up even if there are sequals. So making that kind of long term commitment wasn't new for Bond.
MBE
Sounds about right, thanks .... just wonder if they will get Gerard Butler to replace him in Bond like they did in Tom Raider |)
( just a joke btw 'cos I adore Gerard Butler :x )
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A soft peddling interview with The Times is the roughage of life? Pftt If anyone was having it rough it was the interviewer because Craig was being an intractable sourpuss and bore. If the interviewer had used the c word I'd have been more understanding.
You're right, of course; it had to have been awkward for the reporter...
For people like Craig, who clearly dislike the PR end of what they do for a living, I'm guessing it finally gets to a point where a sponge cannot hold any more water, and this poor chap from the Times came near the end of a fairly long queue of journalists, all serving up identical banalities as if they're the first ones to have conceived such a brilliant question...
Not to defend Craig here, as this is most obviously one of his shorter suits, but I think I understand---still, for Nine Million Pounds Sterling and a Three-Picture Deal, one must take the bad with the good...and expend a bit of effort honing those media relations skills.
Still...maybe the reporter is a c***... :v Either way, I'd be curious as to whether or not he took personal offence; I'm guessing he didn't, due to aforementioned nuances of culture and language.
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You know, c*** doesn't necessarily only mean one word, though I'll agree it's probably the one he used. )
It should be pointed out, mind, that as well as the word which rhymes with "Peter Hunt", there is the one that rhymes with "Tick Tock" and even the one that rhymes with "True Brit".
What IF he used one of those instead?
Funny, but I wonder why it is that some words more with innocent literal meanings have become considered more offensive.
For example, why are words like "bugger" and "sod" deemed relatively innocent when a word referencing a vagina is such a "hot button"? (pun intended, btw)
As i said, I am not English, but it seems pretty OK and I dont understand how some Australian here does not understand it. I thought that Australians are kind of close or like cousin to British (... like this line ... try to say it to Australian or American women, shouldn´t it be ... try to say it to Australian or British women? :-) but I do understand that Australia means strong Croatian etc so maybe I just oversimplify but It is just my established knowledge of history :-)
I assume you're talking about me. I already said all I had to say so I will simply say this: I am not a prude or a puritan, however there are some words or phrases which I would never use. One of theme is the c word. Plus this is an interview, so really, Craig probably shouldn't do much swearing at all. He certainly shouldn't use the c word. Anyway, that's all I have to say. Please continue whatever you were discussing.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
I think and this is just my guess from the context that he's saying he originally signed up for three Tomb Raiders too. Although he made just one it's not unsual for cast members in franchise like films to be signed to multi deal contracts that aren't always picked up even if there are sequals. So making that kind of long term commitment wasn't new for Bond.
Although I have tried, I have never seen the ending of Tomb Rider. I find the film so boring that I think I fell asleep before the ending. Anyway, my point is, doesn't Craig die at the end? If so, why would he have signed a multi-film contract knowing his character wouldn't be in any sequels?
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
It should be pointed out, mind, that as well as the word which rhymes with "Peter Hunt", there is the one that rhymes with "Tick Tock" and even the one that rhymes with "True Brit".
) Never even thought of them! Funny how we all race to the most "indecent" option. Have to say though, I didn't notice it first time round, had to go looking for it when it was pointed out here.
Heck, I can be just as good with the potty mouth, so I'm not one to judge.
Heck, I can be just as good with the potty mouth, so I'm not one to judge.
This website is the only place where I don't regularly let rip with a stream of filthy words, and that's only because the ****ing ****y ****** of a *****faced swear filter won't let me...
Heck, I can be just as good with the potty mouth, so I'm not one to judge.
This website is the only place where I don't regularly let rip with a stream of filthy words, and that's only because the ****ing ****y ****** of a *****faced swear filter won't let me...
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Well, at least you get to say "willy" on here.
(By the way, is JetSetWilly what you get after you join the "Mile High Club"?)
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The c word, that's simply inappropriate when talking to The Times, a very mainstream paper people will read over their breakfast or on the train. It's also a little over the top in regards to a silly but rather innocuous question, especially since he and the interviewer didn't exactly seem on that chummy a basis for it to be taken as playful. He may have meant it a humorous manner (though nothing else in this entire interview from him is humorous so why start with that?) but it's hardly the height of wit. As said he's not on a building site, he's not even talking to Playboy, Maxim or FHM so it's just inappropriate.
As for the word itself, yes most find it very offensive in and of itself. I'm not one of them. In and of itself I don't find it any more offensive than the word d*** (which he also used, but just comes off less vulgar than c*** or even f*** in these circumstances) It all depends on who's using it and in what context. Outside the UK it's usage is mostly restricted to those using it as the nastiest and most degrading thing one can say about a woman. I don't think Daniel meant it in any way that's misogynistic or maybe even nasty but I also don't think the interviewer was the kind of person he should be using it with -- nor was it the appropriate venue.
The entire tone of the interview is one of discomfort and surliness so the word just feels that much more vulgar and inappropriate. It's not as if the interviewer came loaded for him, quite the contrary- it seemed as if he was trying to charm him and was complimentary of his work but to no avail. The reporter also had intelligent things to ask about Craig's work, which Craig just didn’t seem all that interested in discussing. When he asks the Oscar question at that point he was probably trying to desperately get some kind reaction from Craig. What he got I gather was Craig's attempt at humor. Really it's a bad job all around by Craig and the fact that the article is filled so much with the reporters reactions about what Craig might be thinking etc and how he's reacting to Craig in this instance seems to have more to do with the fact he got basically nothing from Craig as a subject except being glum and close-mouthed.
To be fair every actor has had bad days being interviewed (especially when they're doing them back to back for weeks on end) though it seems like Craig's had more his share than most. But if you're going to have a bad day it's really best not to have it with The Times one month before your film opens.
Since Babs so gleefully declared they're interfering control freaks about everything, maybe they should direct some of that interfering energy into hiring someone to teach Craig how to better conduct interviews.
MBE
Other words, more offensive these days, are of the racist ilk, such as the n- word etc.
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That's what I was thinking of, actually!
And as it is writen via the reporter, Craig was already on n'th meeting that day and was hardly in the mood to eat anything much less divulge about what he considered for the role. And supposing how many times he had been asked the same questions in repetition, he was easily more than likely overworked. And the next 39 days won't be any easier for him.
I can't fathom the regulations for British journalism, but everything that I've seen of it has at least a little bit of opinion involved. American journalism has to maintain a fundamental non-partisan approach whenever a story is covered.
I'd like to see a New York Times interview rather and see how that one compares.
That was just about the funniest thing I have read on here in a long time. That was a real coffee spluttering moment. Thanks NP
As to the word itself, I think MBE summed it up. I don't find it offensive either but it was inappropriate and unnecessary. There are magazines that it would have been fine in but I don't think the Times is one of them.
Em, I don't understand why you defend him so vigorously on this point. It is just a word, but to many it is just about the most offensive word that can be said and can be inflammatory. Its use should be limited to the appropriate circumstances.
Still, if Bond doesn't work out, he could always get a part in The Sopranos
Second, I have read all of the interviews that were posted on this site which may not constitute all the interviews that Craig has done, but there you go.
Exactly. And then he got accused of beating his wife. Good episode.
Yes, it's locker room banter; yes, I'd say it's inappropriate for a interview with the Times, but for better or worse, profanity figures prominently in The New Guy's offscreen vernacular. Might as well bemoan the overall coarsening of society, of which this is merely a minor symptom.
Personally I don't think journalists are cursed at nearly often enough...If it were the first time the interviewer had ever been called a c***, I'd be most surprised. If so, it was likely overdue :v
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
- James Bond, You Only Live Twice by Ian Fleming, p.83
:007)
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"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Although as to what he's spelling with five letters in it..
Because it really doesn't shock me; I just can't get worked up about it. Have a read of the Wikipedia entry on it- it's actually rather fascinating and might help you find it a lot less inflammatory. I just find the prudish worrying over swearwords odd to say the least.
I actually started out on this thread being rather disappointed by Craig in this interview, but have managed to be turned around!
A soft peddling interview with The Times is the roughage of life? Pftt
MBE
It may not shock you, it doesn't me either but I can understand why it upsets some.
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Craig probably is such a hardcase to discourage having to do any more interviews. His plan is most likely going to backfire since now every journalist in the world is going to try to think of questions that will utterly irritate him. They're going to look at him like hyenas circle a helpless baby zebra and laugh as they take potshots at "Bond, James Bond".
I don't think the interviewer in this case was interested much in 007 anyway. Probably hoping to illicit intelligent conversation by focusing on Craig's earlier work but still got boorish profane-laced simple sentences for response. If I were the interviewer, I too would start asking some pretty underhanded questions.
Can anyone explain to me the "I made three Tomb Raiders" comment?
Glad you brought that up.I didn't get it either.
I have just read this arguing about cu.t word, here is my take on it
As a Czech I have really no problem with it, the guy (Craig) just showed relaxed way of talking, kind of friendly instigation, if you know what I mean
English sense of humour is very close to my mentality, i´m not neither puritan neither humourless. Of course you can have politically correct speach and have a tie but this is great for dull people. If you are relaxed and open-minded you should live with it.
As i said, I am not English, but it seems pretty OK and I dont understand how some Australian here does not understand it. I thought that Australians are kind of close or like cousin to British (... like this line ... try to say it to Australian or American women, shouldn´t it be ... try to say it to Australian or British women? :-) but I do understand that Australia means strong Croatian etc so maybe I just oversimplify but It is just my established knowledge of history :-)
I think and this is just my guess from the context that he's saying he originally signed up for three Tomb Raiders too. Although he made just one it's not unsual for cast members in franchise like films to be signed to multi deal contracts that aren't always picked up even if there are sequals. So making that kind of long term commitment wasn't new for Bond.
MBE
Sounds about right, thanks .... just wonder if they will get Gerard Butler to replace him in Bond like they did in Tom Raider
( just a joke btw 'cos I adore Gerard Butler :x )
You're right, of course; it had to have been awkward for the reporter...
For people like Craig, who clearly dislike the PR end of what they do for a living, I'm guessing it finally gets to a point where a sponge cannot hold any more water, and this poor chap from the Times came near the end of a fairly long queue of journalists, all serving up identical banalities as if they're the first ones to have conceived such a brilliant question...
Not to defend Craig here, as this is most obviously one of his shorter suits, but I think I understand---still, for Nine Million Pounds Sterling and a Three-Picture Deal, one must take the bad with the good...and expend a bit of effort honing those media relations skills.
Still...maybe the reporter is a c***... :v Either way, I'd be curious as to whether or not he took personal offence; I'm guessing he didn't, due to aforementioned nuances of culture and language.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
It should be pointed out, mind, that as well as the word which rhymes with "Peter Hunt", there is the one that rhymes with "Tick Tock" and even the one that rhymes with "True Brit".
What IF he used one of those instead?
Funny, but I wonder why it is that some words more with innocent literal meanings have become considered more offensive.
For example, why are words like "bugger" and "sod" deemed relatively innocent when a word referencing a vagina is such a "hot button"? (pun intended, btw)
Heck, I can be just as good with the potty mouth, so I'm not one to judge.
This website is the only place where I don't regularly let rip with a stream of filthy words, and that's only because the ****ing ****y ****** of a *****faced swear filter won't let me...
@merseytart
Well, at least you get to say "willy" on here.
(By the way, is JetSetWilly what you get after you join the "Mile High Club"?)
(Just joking..................)