Regardless of what they do, something tells me Marvel has already got this all mapped out, if only in a rudimentary way.
I really like the idea of having the rest of the Avengers team more or less in place when they find Cap in the ice...
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Regardless of what they do, something tells me Marvel has already got this all mapped out, if only in a rudimentary way.
I really like the idea of having the rest of the Avengers team more or less in place when they find Cap in the ice...
I reiterate as long as Cap has the WINGS on his mask. I hate these kids preferring the new-fangled version to the old...I grew up with the character before they could spell CAP and these young, snotty-nosed punks want to alter the look! That's encroaching on one of my childhood superheroes. X-(
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Since we're speaking of Cap, Superherohype.com is currently running a poll on which Marvel movie fans would like to see next. You can guess which one I chose. Here's the voting thus far:
Which movie on Marvel Studios' independent slate are you anticipating the most?
The First Avenger: Captain America 33.3%
The Avengers 30.0%
Iron Man 2 22.0%
Thor 12.2%
Ant-Man 2.4%
Total votes: 576
Outside of reading the old John Byrne stories, I have no desire to see an Ant-Man movie come to fruition. Now that's a lame character. 8-)
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Speed Racer continues to get wildly mixed reviews; critics uniformly seem to hate it (surprise surprise) while fans of the show and general moviegoers who've seen previews seem to respond well to it.
Anyhow, here's the first seven minutes of the movie via streaming video. The acting looks a little wooden but the visuals are pretty wild.
Saw Speed Racer today (impressions over in the Last Film Seen thread) and before the film they had a modified version of the Hulk trailer that I saw last week. Interestingly, a lot of Edward Norton's scenes and dialog from the previous version were removed and the focus shifted from Banner to Hulk. I wonder if the cool response to the last couple of trailers caused Marvel and Universal to go in this different direction.
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Tony, I sent them both the pic you created and they were none too pleased. One of the geeks nearly came to tears because he loves Spider-Man just that much. I can't explain the reactions in words but it was priceless. I'm glad that I left Little Hal at home today. ) ) )
I gotta get these guys girlfriends. )
As a retort, Tony...they told me to give you this:
THE MARVEL ACOLYTES HAVE WAGED WAR AGAINST ME & TONY DP!) ) )
Tony, I sent them both the pic you created and they were none too pleased. One of the geeks nearly came to tears because he loves Spider-Man just that much. I can't explain the reactions in words but it was priceless. I'm glad that I left Little Hal at home today. ) ) )
) I laughed so hard at that I almost choked to death during a coughing fit. That's what they get for dissing Green Lantern and Batman.
I gotta get these guys girlfriends. )
As a retort, Tony...they told me to give you this:
- The Captain America movie WILL be a period piece taking place during WWII.
This must mean that proposed Avengers movie would detail Cap's 'arrival' in modern times. As much as I dislike the idea of an entire Cap story taking place in WWII (it means no trademark costume or shield) I suppose that it's the best way to introduce a patriotic hero in these bizarre times where pro- and anti-American sentiment is so rampant.
Who knows, maybe Cap will have the classic costume and round shield for the duration of the film (like they did in the el cheapo 1990 direct to video version). Also the film might end with his frozen body being discovered in the 21st century and picking the story up from there in Avengers.
I do think that setting the film in WWII will give it a different and hopefully fresher feel than other comics films.
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First of all, LOVE THE AVATAR, darenhat! Cap is one of my favorite heroes all of my life. B-)
Now, as far as this movie is concerned, I don't really mind that the preface starts in the 40s. Afterall, the 90s movie that Tony mentioned earlier, stayed true to the source material to a point. BTW, I KINDA LIKED THAT MOVIE AND OWN IT...well at least the beginning and end parts. I didn't understand why The Red Skull was Italian in it instead of German.
I will be very disappointed if his character isn't in the costume that I've admired for years and it gives way to that damn Ultimate look from the comic and animated feature film. This is a constant arguement that I have with co-workers and friends all around about. They think that the pirate boots and wings are corny and I don't. They want a more militarized look where me and a few others prefer the traditional one. There has to be a happy medium on this.
To me, it's a matter of encroachment from younger fans.
And at the very least, you've got to have Bucky and what happens to him. I've never agreed with Marvel writer Brubaker resurrecting him for current times; SOME heroes should just stay dead. X-(
I think that whomever's writing will tie-in the shield, seen in Iron Man, with the Cap film so it's pretty much a sure thing that he'll be frozen and found in current times by the end of his picture.
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First of all, LOVE THE AVATAR, darenhat! Cap is one of my favorite heroes all of my life. B-)
Now, as far as this movie is concerned, I don't really mind that the preface starts in the 40s. Afterall, the 90s movie that Tony mentioned earlier, stayed true to the source material to a point. BTW, I KINDA LIKED THAT MOVIE AND OWN IT...well at least the beginning and end parts. I didn't understand why The Red Skull was Italian in it instead of German.
I used to have the laserdisc; the first 15 minutes and last 15 minutes are pretty good; but the stuff in between - blech! No idea why they changed Red Skull's nationality, probably some misguided effort in the hopes of selling the movie to the Italian market.
I will be very disappointed if his character isn't in the costume that I've admired for years and it gives way to that damn Ultimate look from the comic and animated feature film. This is a constant arguement that I have with co-workers and friends all around about. They think that the pirate boots and wings are corny and I don't. They want a more militarized look where me and a few others prefer the traditional one. There has to be a happy medium on this.
I love the original costume too; but let's face it, some elements like the "A" on the forehead or the miniature wings on the side, really don't make a lot of sense, especially to the casual moviegoer; I would be disappointed but not surprised to see them dropped. I'm sure the final costume will be an amalgamation of different elements that will be familiar but not 100% true to any iteration. Whatever happens, the exposed ears have got to go.
To me, it's a matter of encroachment from younger fans.
Damn kids! )
And at the very least, you've got to have Bucky and what happens to him. I've never agreed with Marvel writer Brubaker resurrecting him for current times; SOME heroes should just stay dead. X-(
I'm pretty confident that Bucky will be there; and I'm also pretty sure that he'll get killed - it's one of those perfect dramatic moments that can sell the film to that dreaded mainstream audience.
I think that whomever's writing will tie-in the shield, seen in Iron Man, with the Cap film so it's pretty much a sure thing that he'll be frozen and found in current times by the end of his picture.
I wonder if the shield on Stark's workbench was being developed for
the failed super-soldier experiment that gives us the Hulk and Abomination in the upcoming Hulk movie and ends up giving it to Steve Rogers after he's found and thawed out.
Either way, I'm sure it will factor into the story somehow.
BTW, having seen Speed Racer, I think that Matthew Fox would make for a great Steve Rogers - he already has the build and square jaw; just dye his hair blonde and you're good to go. Unless of course they can get Aaron Eckhart away from the Batman movies.
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BTW, having seen Speed Racer, I think that Matthew Fox would make for a great Steve Rogers - he already has the build and square jaw; just dye his hair blonde and you're good to go. Unless of course they can get Aaron Eckhart away from the Batman movies.
I'm planning to by this weekend to make my own opinion about it, Tony. With everyone occupied with the new Indy and more IM repeated viewings, I shouldn't have a problem finding a good seat. It's a nostalgia thing for me anyway.
You're pretty staunch on Eckhart playing Cap? Sorry but at this point, it doesn't look like it's going to happen, man. He's Two-Face for the duration.
I have to look carefully at Fox to see if there's a similarity to he and Rogers.
On a side note, has anyone caught the latest Hulk tv spots? Did anyone catch the part from the earlier trailers where Hulk is roaring bare-chested right before charging Abombination that NOW he's wearing a torn shirt in the same sequence? Looks like the studios are working overtime on the CGI touches to look its best by opening day.
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So, have the Marvel Sisters reached double digit viewings of Iron Man yet? )
I know Eckhart will never be Captain America. But with the blonde hair, square jaw, and imposing frame he would have been a great fit in my opinion.
I also noticed a reduced emphasis on Norton/Banner in the theatrical trailer for the Hulk that I saw in front of Speed Racer. They've definitely shifted the marketing to focus more on the Hulk and the action. Clearly the lukewarm response to the first trailer had an effect on the marketing of the movie.
The question now is whether or not the new trailers and TV spots are indicative of the finished film or another Alien 3 where the trailers made you think the movie was wall to wall action when the actual film was something very different.
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Personally I dont see anything wrong with the 1980 version .... I wonder why that could be
Hey, who let a girl into the Secret Club House??!!! ) Just kidding LR, all points of view are welcome here.
As to Flash Gordon, I loved the 1980 version as well. It's hammy, cheezy, and had a vibe that strongly reminded me a lot of the old Batman TV show - and that really should come as no surprise since both were written by Lorenzo Semple Jr. The cast was great (especially Peter Wyngarde as Klytus, who even gave old Darth a run for his money) and I loved how they kept the look of the old serials even as they lampooned the story. Queen's music was lost on me however. Too bad the movie sailed past most of the moviegoing audience, who just didn't get the camp treatment.
Recently, the Sci-Fi channel tried doing a Flash Gordon TV show and the results were absolutely abysmal. The actors had no character at all (they all looked like a bunch of afternoon soap opera rejects) and the thing looked like it had a budget of about 12 dollars per episode. Luckily it was yanked after one season.
I'll be curious to see what direction the filmmakers take this next iteration. My fear is that Hollywood will probably turn it into a dark, edgy film totally devoid of the charm of the old serials or the 1980 edition. And that would be a shame as something like Flash should never completely abandon its pulp roots.
Recently, the Sci-Fi channel tried doing a Flash Gordon TV show and the results were absolutely abysmal. The actors had no character at all (they all looked like a bunch of afternoon soap opera rejects) and the thing looked like it had a budget of about 12 dollars per episode. Luckily it was yanked after one season.
That aired in the UK recently. I didn't make it to the end of the first episode. And Ming had hair. That's just wrong.
I'll be curious to see what direction the filmmakers take this next iteration. My fear is that Hollywood will probably turn it into a dark, edgy film totally devoid of the charm of the old serials or the 1980 edition. And that would be a shame as something like Flash should never completely abandon its pulp roots.
I agree.Flash is actually one of the comics I know a little about and I remember the old series being shown regularly on TV.I think it will go darker.Its proved a big success with other franchises and its very in vogue at the moment.
It will be interesting to see how sucessful it is too,as from a commercial point of view I would think Flash is one of the better known heroes, perhaps up there with Batman. I mean,no disrespect to you Ironmongers, but I didn't know anything about Tony Stark till the movie was coming out and read this thread
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Here's a bit of news for Tony to pull out the Maalox with. )
It looks like we will probably get more Spider-Man sequels on the way. It is also rumored that there may be a new Peter Parker cast if Tobey's return is in doubt:
Sony Going with a New Spider-Man?
Source: Latino Review May 27, 2008
Last week, it was rumored that Sony Pictures is looking to shoot Spider-Man 4 and Spider-Man 5 at the same time using a script by James Vanderbilt that spans the two films. While that hasn't been confirmed, Latino Review added its own rumor... that Peter Parker/Spider-Man may get recast for the films.
Who do they say top the producers' list for the role? Patrick Fugit and Michael Angarano. More details here!
So does that mean Sam Raimi, Tobey and Kirsten Dunst are all out? It's too early to tell, but just remember none of this has been confirmed.
Hey, who let a girl into the Secret Club House??!!! )
I've been popping in here quite regularly keeping my beady little eyes on you!! I dont post because I dont know anything about comic books!!!
I think I'm being cyber-stalked! )
Don't worry about not being familiar with comics; Dan Same's probably never read a comic book in his life and he still posts like mad. It's all in good fun; feel free to chime in whenever you like.
Here's a bit of news for Tony to pull out the Maalox with. )
It looks like we will probably get more Spider-Man sequels on the way. It is also rumored that there may be a new Peter Parker cast if Tobey's return is in doubt:
I've read that too. I've got no problems with more spider-films; I was a big fan of the character when I read the books back in the 70's and early 80's. I just hope they dial back the angst and emo quotient a few notches. As I've said many times, I haven't read the book regularly in 25 years and things may be different now, but when I did read Spiderman Peter Parker wasn't the whiney, crying, pizza delivering dishrag that Raimi and Maguire made him out to be, and the villains weren't all misunderstood, tragic figures who cried at their misfortune. I get the whole "with great power comes great respoinsibility" message as it applies to Peter, but that doesn't mean he, along with everybody else, needs to get put thru the wringer so much every time out. It just makes the movies laborious to sit thru (and downright cringe-inducing at times).
Oh, and if there is another movie, I hope they give Aunt May the toaster and send her to the old folks home like a good old bag.
Don't worry about not being familiar with comics; Dan Same's probably never read a comic book in his life and he still posts like mad. It's all in good fun
Absolutely. It has become one of my favourite threads. Oh, and considering I've got you and Rogue, I don't think I need to start reading comics. )
I've read that too. I've got no problems with more spider-films; I was a big fan of the character when I read the books back in the 70's and early 80's. I just hope they dial back the angst and emo quotient a few notches. As I've said many times, I haven't read the book regularly in 25 years and things may be different now, but when I did read Spiderman Peter Parker wasn't the whiney, crying, pizza delivering dishrag that Raimi and Maguire made him out to be, and the villains weren't all misunderstood, tragic figures who cried at their misfortune. I get the whole "with great power comes great respoinsibility" message as it applies to Peter, but that doesn't mean he, along with everybody else, needs to get put thru the wringer so much every time out. It just makes the movies laborious to sit thru (and downright cringe-inducing at times).
Oh, and if there is another movie, I hope they give Aunt May the toaster and send her to the old folks home like a good old bag.
Why doesn't this response surprise me? :v
Truth be told, although I loved the first two Spider-Man films, the third film was completely OTT. Watching the 'evil' Peter, I realised what you meant when you complained about Spider-Man 2.
BTW, I know I may be in a minority, but please, please, please bring back Tobey as Spidey. {:)
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Don't worry about not being familiar with comics; Dan Same's probably never read a comic book in his life and he still posts like mad. It's all in good fun
Absolutely. It has become one of my favourite threads. Oh, and considering I've got you and Rogue, I don't think I need to start reading comics. )
The loss is yours my friend. While there's undoubtedly a ton of garbage out there, you're also missing out on some great art and stories. Also, the animated DC shows and movies consistently have stories that leave the live action efforts in the dust.
Truth be told, although I loved the first two Spider-Man films, the third film was completely OTT. Watching the 'evil' Peter, I realised what you meant when you complained about Spider-Man 2.
After much thought and consideration, I've come to the realization that Spider-Man 3 is the film I hate the least (how's that for damning with faint praise) due in no small part to the fact that Peter at last stops being a footstool for everyone to step on and isn't nearly as humiliated as in the prior entries. The film still has too many scenes where I have to look away (the "proposal", the nightclub, anything with Aunt May) but at least Peter finally grows a set (even if it is only due to the symbiote) and doesn't let himself get pushed around.
BTW, I know I may be in a minority, but please, please, please bring back Tobey as Spidey. {:)
And with that, it's time for lunch. Mmmmm, yummy...
And with that, it's time for lunch. Mmmmm, yummy...
) This is the first time I have ever heard of Maalox (I had to look it up on wikepedia.) I had no idea that Tobey caused you such pain. :v
On a serious note, I can accept that Tobey probably won't play Spidey again, but I can not imagine anyone else doing so. IMO he has grabbed the role and has become Spidey in the same way that Christopher Reeves will always be Superman for me. I mean, yes, he does get a bit emo, but I love his performances (apart from number 3, however I still liked him in that), and I think that physically he fits Spidey perfectly. (Although for some reason, whilst wearing the mask, his voice hasn't always been ideal.) This may be a bold claim; but IMO Tobey's Spidey will go down as one of the very best Comic Book heroes of all time.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
I think that physically he fits Spidey perfectly. (Although for some reason, whilst wearing the mask, his voice hasn't always been ideal.)
That's because it's exactly the same voice with or without the mask. One of my pet peeves with so many of these cinematic masked superheros is that they forget that they should be hiding their true identity and as such, they ought to try changing their voice when in costume. Tobey isn't the only who does this; George Clooney and Chris O'Donnell also come to mind. On the other hand, Keaton, Kilmer and Bale all got it and smartly changed their pitch and inflection when they were in and out of the batsuit.
This may be a bold claim; but IMO Tobey's Spidey will go down as one of the very best Comic Book heroes of all time.
Oooh, that didn't go down well. Time for an extra strong dose...
Oooh, that didn't go down well. Time for an extra strong dose...
And to think we used to be such good friends. Tony, is your problem with Tobey related entirely due to the emo aspects, or do you not think he was a good Spidey anyway? I mean, if they had cut down on the emo, would you welcome him back?
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
And to think we used to be such good friends. Tony, is your problem with Tobey related entirely due to the emo aspects, or do you not think he was a good Spidey anyway? I mean, if they had cut down on the emo, would you welcome him back?
I'm just having a little fun at your expense, Dan.
Tobey is fine, be he'd be so much better if he'd (1) change the voice when in costume, (2) not be such a dishrag as Peter and (3) cut down on the "acting" moments like the nightclub scene in part 3.
I think a lot of these actors (and their directors) take these comics roles way too seriously and try to insert stuff to make them more dramatic than they have to be. Spiderman is really guilty of that (in my view) and even Christopher Nolan's Batman falls into that trap to a lesser degree.
As for future Spiderman films, I'm really neutral as to whether Tobey should return or not. If there is a new creative team then it might be better to have fresh actors in the leads so that the director can put his or her on stamp on the material. Recasting Batman when new creative people came on board breathed new life into that franchise and the same might apply to Spiderman.
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I really like the idea of having the rest of the Avengers team more or less in place when they find Cap in the ice...
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I reiterate as long as Cap has the WINGS on his mask. I hate these kids preferring the new-fangled version to the old...I grew up with the character before they could spell CAP and these young, snotty-nosed punks want to alter the look! That's encroaching on one of my childhood superheroes. X-(
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Which movie on Marvel Studios' independent slate are you anticipating the most?
The First Avenger: Captain America 33.3%
The Avengers 30.0%
Iron Man 2 22.0%
Thor 12.2%
Ant-Man 2.4%
Total votes: 576
Outside of reading the old John Byrne stories, I have no desire to see an Ant-Man movie come to fruition. Now that's a lame character. 8-)
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Anyhow, here's the first seven minutes of the movie via streaming video. The acting looks a little wooden but the visuals are pretty wild.
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/speedracer.html?showVideo=1
Tony, I sent them both the pic you created and they were none too pleased. One of the geeks nearly came to tears because he loves Spider-Man just that much. I can't explain the reactions in words but it was priceless. I'm glad that I left Little Hal at home today.
I gotta get these guys girlfriends.
As a retort, Tony...they told me to give you this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1rf6rQ8gSIY
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Be sure to tell them: Aunt May was but the first to fall! :v I just PM'd you my second assault.
BTW, here's a clip with some very early test footage from Spiderman IV I came across; be sure to share it with the Acolytes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKBU8l13ERs
- The Captain America movie WILL be a period piece taking place during WWII.
- A large portion of the Thor movie takes place in Asgard.
- The circular object on Tony Stark's workbench IS Captain America's shield.
I'm really stoked to hear that the Captain America movie will be a WWII period piece and I have to give props to Marvel for once again "getting it".
For more info, go here...
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=3&id=54651
This must mean that proposed Avengers movie would detail Cap's 'arrival' in modern times. As much as I dislike the idea of an entire Cap story taking place in WWII (it means no trademark costume or shield) I suppose that it's the best way to introduce a patriotic hero in these bizarre times where pro- and anti-American sentiment is so rampant.
I do think that setting the film in WWII will give it a different and hopefully fresher feel than other comics films.
BTW, I like the new avatar photo.
Thanks! It's a little image I whipped up in Photoshop!
Now, as far as this movie is concerned, I don't really mind that the preface starts in the 40s. Afterall, the 90s movie that Tony mentioned earlier, stayed true to the source material to a point. BTW, I KINDA LIKED THAT MOVIE AND OWN IT...well at least the beginning and end parts.
I will be very disappointed if his character isn't in the costume that I've admired for years and it gives way to that damn Ultimate look from the comic and animated feature film. This is a constant arguement that I have with co-workers and friends all around about. They think that the pirate boots and wings are corny and I don't. They want a more militarized look where me and a few others prefer the traditional one. There has to be a happy medium on this.
To me, it's a matter of encroachment from younger fans.
And at the very least, you've got to have Bucky and what happens to him. I've never agreed with Marvel writer Brubaker resurrecting him for current times; SOME heroes should just stay dead. X-(
I think that whomever's writing will tie-in the shield, seen in Iron Man, with the Cap film so it's pretty much a sure thing that he'll be frozen and found in current times by the end of his picture.
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
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I used to have the laserdisc; the first 15 minutes and last 15 minutes are pretty good; but the stuff in between - blech! No idea why they changed Red Skull's nationality, probably some misguided effort in the hopes of selling the movie to the Italian market.
I love the original costume too; but let's face it, some elements like the "A" on the forehead or the miniature wings on the side, really don't make a lot of sense, especially to the casual moviegoer; I would be disappointed but not surprised to see them dropped. I'm sure the final costume will be an amalgamation of different elements that will be familiar but not 100% true to any iteration. Whatever happens, the exposed ears have got to go.
Damn kids!
I'm pretty confident that Bucky will be there; and I'm also pretty sure that he'll get killed - it's one of those perfect dramatic moments that can sell the film to that dreaded mainstream audience.
I wonder if the shield on Stark's workbench was being developed for
BTW, having seen Speed Racer, I think that Matthew Fox would make for a great Steve Rogers - he already has the build and square jaw; just dye his hair blonde and you're good to go. Unless of course they can get Aaron Eckhart away from the Batman movies.
I'm planning to by this weekend to make my own opinion about it, Tony. With everyone occupied with the new Indy and more IM repeated viewings, I shouldn't have a problem finding a good seat. It's a nostalgia thing for me anyway.
You're pretty staunch on Eckhart playing Cap? Sorry but at this point, it doesn't look like it's going to happen, man. He's Two-Face for the duration.
I have to look carefully at Fox to see if there's a similarity to he and Rogers.
On a side note, has anyone caught the latest Hulk tv spots? Did anyone catch the part from the earlier trailers where Hulk is roaring bare-chested right before charging Abombination that NOW he's wearing a torn shirt in the same sequence? Looks like the studios are working overtime on the CGI touches to look its best by opening day.
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I know Eckhart will never be Captain America. But with the blonde hair, square jaw, and imposing frame he would have been a great fit in my opinion.
I also noticed a reduced emphasis on Norton/Banner in the theatrical trailer for the Hulk that I saw in front of Speed Racer. They've definitely shifted the marketing to focus more on the Hulk and the action. Clearly the lukewarm response to the first trailer had an effect on the marketing of the movie.
The question now is whether or not the new trailers and TV spots are indicative of the finished film or another Alien 3 where the trailers made you think the movie was wall to wall action when the actual film was something very different.
As we were leaving work this afternoon...they were on their way to see Iron Man and then Indy.
This will make their 22nd viewing of Shellhead since its release. No joke. That's just overkill.
I think that is enough for a free IM DVD at the very least. I do recall them going to see Spider-Man 2 for a record 35 times! 35 times!!!!
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Oh. My. God. That's hardcore. I shudder to think what my mental state would be like if I had to sit thru Spider Pizza Delivery Man 2 35 times. :v
BTW, there are some new Hulk clips including an extended sequence of the Hulk and Abomination clashing here:
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808495230/video/7950136/
And one of Hulk fighting a Super Soldier injected Tim Roth here:
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36864
And one of Hulk and Betty here:
http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?id=1588023&vid=235404
The CGI action looks good, but still a little unrealistic at times, and interestingly there's no sign of Ed Norton anywhere.
Just wondered what you thought of the news that Flash Gordon is going to get the big budget treatment next ....
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b138384_gordon_flashes_into_view.html
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3ic93424cac69485c2b4d16b3bf3d933dc
Personally I dont see anything wrong with the 1980 version .... I wonder why that could be
Hey, who let a girl into the Secret Club House??!!!
As to Flash Gordon, I loved the 1980 version as well. It's hammy, cheezy, and had a vibe that strongly reminded me a lot of the old Batman TV show - and that really should come as no surprise since both were written by Lorenzo Semple Jr. The cast was great (especially Peter Wyngarde as Klytus, who even gave old Darth a run for his money) and I loved how they kept the look of the old serials even as they lampooned the story. Queen's music was lost on me however. Too bad the movie sailed past most of the moviegoing audience, who just didn't get the camp treatment.
Recently, the Sci-Fi channel tried doing a Flash Gordon TV show and the results were absolutely abysmal. The actors had no character at all (they all looked like a bunch of afternoon soap opera rejects) and the thing looked like it had a budget of about 12 dollars per episode. Luckily it was yanked after one season.
I'll be curious to see what direction the filmmakers take this next iteration. My fear is that Hollywood will probably turn it into a dark, edgy film totally devoid of the charm of the old serials or the 1980 edition. And that would be a shame as something like Flash should never completely abandon its pulp roots.
That aired in the UK recently. I didn't make it to the end of the first episode.
I've been popping in here quite regularly keeping my beady little eyes on you!! I dont post because I dont know anything about comic books!!!
I agree.Flash is actually one of the comics I know a little about and I remember the old series being shown regularly on TV.I think it will go darker.Its proved a big success with other franchises and its very in vogue at the moment.
It will be interesting to see how sucessful it is too,as from a commercial point of view I would think Flash is one of the better known heroes, perhaps up there with Batman. I mean,no disrespect to you Ironmongers, but I didn't know anything about Tony Stark till the movie was coming out and read this thread
It looks like we will probably get more Spider-Man sequels on the way. It is also rumored that there may be a new Peter Parker cast if Tobey's return is in doubt:
Sony Going with a New Spider-Man?
Source: Latino Review May 27, 2008
Last week, it was rumored that Sony Pictures is looking to shoot Spider-Man 4 and Spider-Man 5 at the same time using a script by James Vanderbilt that spans the two films. While that hasn't been confirmed, Latino Review added its own rumor... that Peter Parker/Spider-Man may get recast for the films.
Who do they say top the producers' list for the role? Patrick Fugit and Michael Angarano. More details here!
So does that mean Sam Raimi, Tobey and Kirsten Dunst are all out? It's too early to tell, but just remember none of this has been confirmed.
Here's the link to potential candidates:
http://www.latinoreview.com/news/who-might-be-the-next-spider-man-4726
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I think I'm being cyber-stalked!
Don't worry about not being familiar with comics; Dan Same's probably never read a comic book in his life and he still posts like mad. It's all in good fun; feel free to chime in whenever you like.
I've read that too. I've got no problems with more spider-films; I was a big fan of the character when I read the books back in the 70's and early 80's. I just hope they dial back the angst and emo quotient a few notches. As I've said many times, I haven't read the book regularly in 25 years and things may be different now, but when I did read Spiderman Peter Parker wasn't the whiney, crying, pizza delivering dishrag that Raimi and Maguire made him out to be, and the villains weren't all misunderstood, tragic figures who cried at their misfortune. I get the whole "with great power comes great respoinsibility" message as it applies to Peter, but that doesn't mean he, along with everybody else, needs to get put thru the wringer so much every time out. It just makes the movies laborious to sit thru (and downright cringe-inducing at times).
Oh, and if there is another movie, I hope they give Aunt May the toaster and send her to the old folks home like a good old bag.
Why doesn't this response surprise me? :v
Truth be told, although I loved the first two Spider-Man films, the third film was completely OTT.
BTW, I know I may be in a minority, but please, please, please bring back Tobey as Spidey. {:)
The loss is yours my friend. While there's undoubtedly a ton of garbage out there, you're also missing out on some great art and stories. Also, the animated DC shows and movies consistently have stories that leave the live action efforts in the dust.
After much thought and consideration, I've come to the realization that Spider-Man 3 is the film I hate the least (how's that for damning with faint praise) due in no small part to the fact that Peter at last stops being a footstool for everyone to step on and isn't nearly as humiliated as in the prior entries. The film still has too many scenes where I have to look away (the "proposal", the nightclub, anything with Aunt May) but at least Peter finally grows a set (even if it is only due to the symbiote) and doesn't let himself get pushed around.
And with that, it's time for lunch. Mmmmm, yummy...
On a serious note, I can accept that Tobey probably won't play Spidey again, but I can not imagine anyone else doing so. IMO he has grabbed the role and has become Spidey in the same way that Christopher Reeves will always be Superman for me. I mean, yes, he does get a bit emo, but I love his performances (apart from number 3, however I still liked him in that), and I think that physically he fits Spidey perfectly. (Although for some reason, whilst wearing the mask, his voice hasn't always been ideal.) This may be a bold claim; but IMO Tobey's Spidey will go down as one of the very best Comic Book heroes of all time.
That's because it's exactly the same voice with or without the mask. One of my pet peeves with so many of these cinematic masked superheros is that they forget that they should be hiding their true identity and as such, they ought to try changing their voice when in costume. Tobey isn't the only who does this; George Clooney and Chris O'Donnell also come to mind. On the other hand, Keaton, Kilmer and Bale all got it and smartly changed their pitch and inflection when they were in and out of the batsuit.
Oooh, that didn't go down well. Time for an extra strong dose...
I'm just having a little fun at your expense, Dan.
Tobey is fine, be he'd be so much better if he'd (1) change the voice when in costume, (2) not be such a dishrag as Peter and (3) cut down on the "acting" moments like the nightclub scene in part 3.
I think a lot of these actors (and their directors) take these comics roles way too seriously and try to insert stuff to make them more dramatic than they have to be. Spiderman is really guilty of that (in my view) and even Christopher Nolan's Batman falls into that trap to a lesser degree.
As for future Spiderman films, I'm really neutral as to whether Tobey should return or not. If there is a new creative team then it might be better to have fresh actors in the leads so that the director can put his or her on stamp on the material. Recasting Batman when new creative people came on board breathed new life into that franchise and the same might apply to Spiderman.