To Dan Same. Let your heart be free, young grass hoppa. I am an old school Spidey reading comic fan of ye olde. Let not the musings of a group of DC fans detract you from the true awesomeness of the webslinger.
I say this to you, as one who has never seen a Spiderman movie. This person hates Tobey whatshisname. You are not Peter Parker sir, and you will never be Peter Parker. (However you could play the early role in a biography of Joaquin Phoenix)
So if you want to be a true Spidey fan, pick up some old comic collections. A Dark Horse Trade Paper Back collection would be the most convenient and economical. For sheer camp nostaglic goodness, there's a dvd set of the '67 cartoon show that's also an essential.
Remember these simple rules of Spider fan-hood.
Sam Raimi is just another fan-boy. He is not your god.
Stan Lee and Steve Ditko are your true friends. Excelsior.
Peter should have put Aunt May in a home long ago.
Spidey webshooters were created by him, and are not some organic lifeform. This came later when he picked up the Venom suit during the Secret Wars miniseries.
The best Spidey villains are not Green Goblin or Doc Ock. They are Kraven the Hunter, The Vulture, and The Shocker.
When you finally read a comic, 8-), remember, with great power comes great responsibility.
As a matter of fact, Bats treats all women like hookers under Miller...makes me wonder about the psyche of the author if you get my drift...
I noticed that. Sin City is another example; all the women look (and act) like skanks. Definitely some unhealthy issues there. Or maybe just a lack of talent.
Sam Raimi is just another fan-boy. He is not your god.
Stan Lee and Steve Ditko are your true friends. Excelsior. Peter should have put Aunt May in a home long ago.
Spidey webshooters were created by him, and are not some organic lifeform. This came later when he picked up the Venom suit during the Secret Wars miniseries.
The best Spidey villains are not Green Goblin or Doc Ock. They are Kraven the Hunter, The Vulture, and The Shocker.
When you finally read a comic, 8-), remember, with great power comes great responsibility.
) ) Truer words were never spoken. Alex, we speak the same language.
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As a matter of fact, Bats treats all women like hookers under Miller...makes me wonder about the psyche of the author if you get my drift...
I noticed that. Sin City is another example; all the women look (and act) like skanks. Definitely some unhealthy issues there. Or maybe just a lack of talent.
Why don't we just agree on the latter, Tony. Even though I don't know the man personally, he seems to have some female issues; to what extent I cannot say.
Behold, words that don't match the level of the visuals.
To the Mods, I hope that this isn't too vulgar for this site; I'll gladly take these down if it is with my apologies.
And fans want to complain about Batman: Brave & The Bold taking the character in a direction he's already been? ?:)
Unfortunately,Tony, the All-Star line of characters are the equivelant of Marvel's Ultimate universe so yes "YELLOW" does still effect the GLs. Sorry I caught that late.
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Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
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That was horrible. So that kind of sleaze passes for a comic book these days. And kids actually like that stuff. 8-) Thanks for posting that Rogue, it gives me a newfound appreciation for some of the stuff I used to turn my nose up at. It also confirms that at best Miller has no talent; and at worst...
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that does seem pretty awful- though I'm still curious about the book and will eventually pick it up.
Besides reading reprinted classics in my youth, I'm not the Batman expert - but since when has Wayne used such coarse language? That and his embarrassment over the Batmobile (!!!) really says it all. I also remember Black Canary in different DC story-arcs back then and I don't recall her ever being such a tramp ...
You'll have to excuse me, my old frayed Bob Kane pocket size is calling ...
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edited November 2008
Now you guys know why I didn't want Frank Miller handling The Spirit.
Night, I'd advise you not to buy those GNs but at your age I could see where you would find them "novelty" if nothing else. It's your money though...
This is not the Batman that I know yet writers who draw fat checks from DC think it is. You don't have to be as diehard as I am and not see that...
At least Bruce Timm respects the source material. B-)
Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
At least Bruce Timm respects the source material. B-)
Oh I know all about respect/disrespect for the source material. At least the Batman fans weren't treated to a completely and vastly new back-story to introduce their main man. As us, cough, Conan fans, were.
But anyway, one of my favorite sites, (other then AJB), has this humorous review of the Spidey cartoons. Hope you enjoy it as much as I did http://www.atomicmonsters.com/spider-man67.htm
I wonder, could this announcement pertain to somebody finally reading an actual, honest to goodness comic book?
Since you mention it...
Gentlemen, I have an announcement to make. I Dan, son of David and Denise, brother to Josh and Romy, has finally read a comic-book. Well, kind of. I borrowed two anthologies from Uni; one on Superman (volume 2) and one on Flash (volume 3.)
I've only read one Superman story thus far; 'The Oldest Man in Metropolis' in which Clarke drinks a serum that makes him extremely old. As a result, he is weakened and even at one point impersonates the old man of the sea.
The Flash story that I've read concerns Winky, Blinky and Noddy. It seems that these three rascals are rather intellectually challenged (Noddy is fired from his job at a Quarter store after forgetting the price of an item) and they attempt to come up with inventions; which invariably get them into trouble and requires the assistance of the fastest man alive.
I know that these aren't 'paper' comics (they're in book form), but I hope that they count nonetheless.
When you finally read a comic, 8-), remember, with great power comes great responsibility.
I tried looking for Spidey; unfortunately he wasn't available. I'm heading back to the Uni library on Wednesday; I'll see if he is availaible.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
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Since there is no big name tacked onto the GREEN LANTERN movie, what do you guys think of these suggestions? Mind you, I'm covering all stops here:
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Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
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Your pick for Jon works, he is a good actor, although probably too tall.
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Your pick for Jon works, he is a good actor, although probably too tall.
Yes, indeed. Idris Elba is a great actor and little did I know that the guy is British too. However, I never considered Stewart being that short to begin with and even I'm taller than Elba since he's only 6'2".
Here's a picture of Gambit from the upcoming Marvel movie WOLVERINE due this May.
Gambit's my favorite X-Man and I guess what's turning me sour on this rendition of the character is that he's supposed to have red eyes like all of the time . I was willing to accept that his comics' costumes might look a little ridiculous for live action but I think that the director dropped the ball on the eyes thing.
Hopefully, he'll still have the cajun accent and the long coat. What's the deal with that pimpish-looking blouse he's wearing? ?:)
Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
The Punisher: War Zone opens today in wide release. It's been flying under the radar as of late, and apparently with good reason: its rating on Rotten Tomatoes is a pathetically embarrassing 13%.
15% now Tony. I read some of the reviews. Most are negative, but all the complaints that are being made, too violent, too 80's action movie, too offensive, too ridiculous, make War Zone sound like something I want to see.
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edited December 2008
I just got back from seeing PWZ and while it's far from a masterpiece (I kept my expectations quite low), this film packed quite a punch. If you're faint of heart or just flat out wimpy, do not see this. It was the equivelant of eating BOILED glass; GRITTY & GORY.
These stinking pretentious critics who rag on this movie don't realize that it caters to its fanbase (Which may be this film's downfall in the end). They give a film like Superman Returns more than favorable marks and that had to be one of the weakest comic book films ever with its milquetoast action and emo scenes. DO NOT TAKE THE CRITICS WORD ON THIS; make your own assessment. Clearly it won't be for everyone. It's a grosser version of Commando if said movie were made today.
PWZ might've benefitted from some of the subtleties and/or sensibilities that the '04 one exibited but I felt that my money wasn't wasted here. The editing was questionable and it deserved better writing for a more fleshed out feel but I was very pleased with the end result. I'd love to see a director's cut though.
If it had just mixed this incarnation with Jane's version and it would have been perfect! Fun, sickening violent escapism, nothing more.
Stevenson is The Punisher.
Yes, I am getting the DVD. B-)
Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
You mean he's better than Dolph? Glad to see your review Rogue. I'm looking forward to PWZ, though I've no idea if it's getting a cinema release here. I guess it depends on how it does this weekend.
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) Yeah...by just a little, J.D. ) ) This film is closer in mayhem to the '89 one anyway.
Glad to see your review Rogue. I'm looking forward to PWZ, though I've no idea if it's getting a cinema release here. I guess it depends on how it does this weekend.
And believe me, if I hated it (being the Punisher fan that I am), I would've been more than happy to swallow my pride and say so. Under the circumstances, this is not the case with PWZ; the film is good if you sit back without over-analyzing every little thing wrong with it.
If I'm not mistaken, critics have slammed all three Punisher installments and I've come to the conclusion that they just don't understand the character at all. Perhaps picking up a comic book would help before entering things of this type. 8-) I find redeeming qualities in all 3 films and they can't? ?:)
I love how someone like Tarantino can carve out a career writing caricatures and blood letting (KILL BILL) violence and everyone praises him, yet when a comic book movie comes out that sticks close to the source material in every aspect it is mocked by the same idiots who praise tarantino style violence...c'mon, people are you serious?
War Zone is absurdly OTT with the violence and it makes no apologies for it. There were a couple of kills that I thought were "out there" and from the audience hilarity ensued. But it was awesome at the same time. It's hard to explain really. )
If you loved the senseless actioneers of the 80s like Commando & Rambo, PWZ should be right up your alley. It's an outdated but loved theme in a PC society. B-)
P.S. I was surprised that in my viewing audience were like a few couples of elderly people enjoying this movie. Just something that caught my attention. Someone's grandmother is HARDCORE. B-)
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Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
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Fun, sickening violent escapism, nothing more.
Stevenson is The Punisher.
Sounds like I'll have to have a look :v Thanks, Rogue -{
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Glad to hear you enjoyed the movie Rogue, although as I read your comments it sounds to me like you're being a little too defensive of its merits. {:)
Unfortunately, it looks like the audience is staying away. According to Boxofficemojo it earned a paltry $1.65 million on Friday and that will probably translate into about 5-6 million for the weekend, which is a disappointment no matter how you look at it.
The fact that it reminds you of the Dolphster's version pretty much kills what little chance there was of my catching this. BTW, the 1989 Dolph version was on TV a few days ago and I watched a few minutes of it - old Dolph was greyer than ash in that one, he looked positively cadaverous.
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Fun, sickening violent escapism, nothing more.
Stevenson is The Punisher.
Sounds like I'll have to have a look :v Thanks, Rogue -{
You're welcome, Loeff.
Stevenson certainly makes the movie worthwhile. If you liked him as Titus Pullo in Rome, you'll love him in this. I plan on going back tomorrow myself.
Glad to hear you enjoyed the movie Rogue, although as I read your comments it sounds to me like you're being a little too defensive of its merits. {:)
Yeah, I thought of that well after I typed it I guess. I may have come across as too passionate? ) ) )
But like you with GL & Iron Man; Batman, Hulk & Frank Castle will pretty much always have a soft spot with me. I've got loads of books to back that up. ;%
Unfortunately, it looks like the audience is staying away. According to Boxofficemojo it earned a paltry $1.65 million on Friday and that will probably translate into about 5-6 million for the weekend, which is a disappointment no matter how you look at it.
It hurts to me only in that fact that it deserves a stronger audience and that it will probably be another 10 years before I get another Punisher film. I might sound overzealous with my protesting for it but this one was straight out of the 80s with the hardcore violence and ironically the one closest to the source material...and it's bombing.
I still hate the critics for raping it like they have. I seriously loved it so I'm happy. :x
My favorite line from it was when Colin Salmon's character, Budianski, calls all of the cops in the precinct "Krispy Kreme mother*****rs!!!!!!!") ) )
It's just the way he says it. I just lost it. )
As far as I'm concerned, Marvel movies for the year 2008 are a perfect 3 for 3.
The fact that it reminds you of the Dolphster's version pretty much kills what little chance there was of my catching this. BTW, the 1989 Dolph version was on TV a few days ago and I watched a few minutes of it - old Dolph was greyer than ash in that one, he looked positively cadaverous.
I think that I'll watch that gem tonight. Did you at least get to the jail/slapping part before you cut it off?
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Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
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Well, I'm not going to see the Punisher. I have to say I've never liked the character. If I want a vicious killer, I'll read Spawn.
Speaking of which... a new and improved Spawn movie would be MOST welcome.
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Well, I'm not going to see the Punisher. I have to say I've never liked the character.
Yeah, well it doesn't matter at this point; next stop for Frank, early dvd release.
Punisher: War Zone Gets Shot Down
Source:ComingSoon.net December 7, 2008
ComingSoon.net has posted the box office estimates for the weekend which show that Lionsgate's Punisher: War Zone struggled its first three days in theaters:
Newcomer Punisher: War Zone, directed by Lexi Alexander and starring Ray Stevenson, bombed out of the gate with just $4 million from 2,508 theaters, a low average of $1,595 and good for only eighth place. It is less than a third of what the studio's first "Punisher" film opened to in 2004.
It really is a fun movie that harkens back to the balls out actioneers of the 70s-80s. Way before the metrosexual man was invented. PWZ just didn't take.
If I want a vicious killer, I'll read Spawn.
Funny you should say that. Have you ever read the Punisher/Spawn GN that came out back in the 90s?
Speaking of which... a new and improved Spawn movie would be MOST welcome.
That would be up to MacFarlane but I don't think that he has any takers to fund it anyway; I remember him trying to get another film off of the ground to no avail.
Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
Well, I'm not going to see the Punisher. I have to say I've never liked the character.
Yeah, well it doesn't matter at this point; next stop for Frank, early dvd release.
Punisher: War Zone Gets Shot Down
Source:ComingSoon.net December 7, 2008
ComingSoon.net has posted the box office estimates for the weekend which show that Lionsgate's Punisher: War Zone struggled its first three days in theaters:
Newcomer Punisher: War Zone, directed by Lexi Alexander and starring Ray Stevenson, bombed out of the gate with just $4 million from 2,508 theaters, a low average of $1,595 and good for only eighth place. It is less than a third of what the studio's first "Punisher" film opened to in 2004.
It really is a fun movie that harkens back to the balls out actioneers of the 70s-80s. Way before the metrosexual man was invented. PWZ just didn't take.
Personally, I can't say that I'm surprised as the deck was stacked against this one from the getgo. Between Thomas Jane walking away from the part all the behind the scenes drama involving the director, it was already under a cloud. Stevenson aside, the cast was made up of utter unknowns. The film got no word of mouth at all, no sneak previews and not even genre sites like AICN had a review of it. That's never a good sign and suggests that the studio never had much faith in the film to begin with. Besides, the 1980s brand of OTT action movie has really become a dinosaur and hasn't been commercially viable for a long long time. Stars like Stallone, Seagal and Schwarzenegger (before he became a governator) haven't had a hit in well over a decade and today's audiences want something a little more sophisticated.
Regardless of the quality, I guess The Punisher just isn't a viable box office hero. Thomas Jane's kindler, gentler and more audience friendly Punisher didn't fly, even with all the star power and promotion that film received. This one did even worse, and I think the OTT violence really didn't appeal to the average moviegoer. Ultimately, audiences just don't respond to certain characters; we saw the same thing happen with the Hulk, albeit on a more modest level.
It'll be interesting to see what (if anything) Marvel does with the character and how (or even if) this film's box office failure will affect their own films like Thor and Captain America going forward.
I never really caught on to the Punisher craze, myself. I collected some of the Marvel comics in the '80s but there wasn't enough there to keep me engaged. The Punisher was a bit of a rogue character in the Marvel Universe, making an appearance here or there in other titles, but since he had no 'powers' there was nothing to differentiate him from any other gun-toting action type. He was like a trailer-trash version of Batman (no offense to Batman - honest, RogueAgent!). Maybe I'm wrong, but he has and always will be in my mind a second-stringer in the Marvel line-up...which amazes me why they keep trying to make a movie of him.
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No hard feelings, darenhat. It's just a fact that there are a faction of comic fans who won't find a particular character as glamourous as others; Punisher unfortunately falls into this category.
But if you happen to catch it on cable, give it a chance. It's really a good film in a grindhouse sort of way. And Stevenson really looks like Frank Castle. B-)
The Marvel Sisters think that it's the best of the three incarnations but that isn't a surprise coming from them I guess. )
Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice isUNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
The Marvel Sisters think that it's the best of the three incarnations but that isn't a surprise coming from them I guess. )
There was a brief article over at comingsoon.net about The Punisher. Given its poor box office performance, it is now the biggest box office bomb based on a Marvel property, eclisping even the infamous Howard the Duck. Ouch!
In hindsight, Lionsgate might have been better served by going straight to video (thus avoiding all the negative reviews and word of mouth) or releasing it closer to one of the other high-profile comic book adaptations as it may have been able to piggy-back off of others comics films word of mouth.
At this point, I wonder if Lionsgate will go for the hat trick or if they'll give up the rights to the character and let it revert back to Marvel.
Dylan Dog is finally getting translated into English. Only a few issues were done a few years ago and I guess they didn't sell too well as Dark Horse never followed up on it. But now with a movie on the horizon it looks like the entire series is going to be made available. {[]
PWZ sounds kinda like a Jason Statham pic... not sure that's a bad thing.
Just watched Batman Returns again (tis the season and all that), and I so appreciate this film, Burton really sucker-punched everybody with this one IMO, the campy veneer hides some amazingly adult themes - which IMHO is what Batman is all about (the camp can be more or less, sure). What's weird is the Penguin/Batman duality of who's the bigger orphan-freak takes a back seat to S-E-X. And defeminizing feminity: it's like women's lib all grown up and kicking bat-ass all over the place while trying to seduce the Man. In a comicbook superhero movie. Not sure if Burton has ever revisited this with more success than he shows here. Also always forget there's a Siouxsie and the Banshees tune (that Elfman wrote, great pairing) in the party scene and over the end credits, love that. ;%
Looking at superhero movies lately, I realize the ones I prefer have similar depth to them. But kudos to Burton and Keaton and DeVito and Pfeiffer for pulling off such an awesome subterfuge. :v For what it does, it still hasn't been topped IMHO.
Saw The Incredible Hulk, it was an enjoyable movie with Ed Norton a compelling David Banner. The love story between Norton and Liv Tyler is strong and is one of the better parts of the movie. I liked the movie and would probably give it a thumbs up, but I did have a few problems with it. As with a lot of these superhero comic book movies, the military leaders, in this case William Hurt's character, all have maniacal power hungry single minded personalities. I wish we could get an intelligent, but perhaps misguided, military leader. I also had a problem with the climatic battle, just like in Iron Man where we had Iron Man battle a bigger Iron Man, in this movie we get Hulk battling essentially a bigger badder version of the Hulk. What made Terminator 2 interesting was the other Terminator wasn't similar in size to Arnold, he was faster, quicker, leaner and with made with a more advance composite metal. I think a foe, that is different than the super hero with attributes that give them different capabilities would make for a more interesting ending. My best analogy for this would be like in a prize fight, where one guy is a skilled boxer and the opther guy is a big puncher, the two styles usually make for an interesting fight.
I did like the little salutes to prior Hulks with Lou Ferrigno and Bill Bixby making quick appearances. The final scane was also interesting when Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr) met with the General and mentioned putting a team together. That could be interesting.
I recall liking the 2003 Hulk movie and would like to see it again to compare which I liked better. Based on what I can remember, I think the 2003 film story may have been better, with a little bit more emotional insight, but the action was better in this film.
Some interesting news over at Rotten Tomatoes: first, there are plans for a new version of The Crow. Unfortunately, the man who'll be directing it is the same guy behind the godawful League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Also in the works in a new Phantom movie, which seems to be on the lines of this year's Incredible Hulk, a quasi-sequel/reboot. Looks like anything that appeared in comic book/comic strip form is going before the cameras these days!
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I say this to you, as one who has never seen a Spiderman movie. This person hates Tobey whatshisname. You are not Peter Parker sir, and you will never be Peter Parker. (However you could play the early role in a biography of Joaquin Phoenix)
So if you want to be a true Spidey fan, pick up some old comic collections. A Dark Horse Trade Paper Back collection would be the most convenient and economical. For sheer camp nostaglic goodness, there's a dvd set of the '67 cartoon show that's also an essential.
Remember these simple rules of Spider fan-hood.
Sam Raimi is just another fan-boy. He is not your god.
Stan Lee and Steve Ditko are your true friends. Excelsior.
Peter should have put Aunt May in a home long ago.
Spidey webshooters were created by him, and are not some organic lifeform. This came later when he picked up the Venom suit during the Secret Wars miniseries.
The best Spidey villains are not Green Goblin or Doc Ock. They are Kraven the Hunter, The Vulture, and The Shocker.
When you finally read a comic, 8-), remember, with great power comes great responsibility.
I noticed that. Sin City is another example; all the women look (and act) like skanks. Definitely some unhealthy issues there. Or maybe just a lack of talent.
Why don't we just agree on the latter, Tony. Even though I don't know the man personally, he seems to have some female issues; to what extent I cannot say.
Behold, words that don't match the level of the visuals.
To the Mods, I hope that this isn't too vulgar for this site; I'll gladly take these down if it is with my apologies.
And fans want to complain about Batman: Brave & The Bold taking the character in a direction he's already been? ?:)
Unfortunately,Tony, the All-Star line of characters are the equivelant of Marvel's Ultimate universe so yes "YELLOW" does still effect the GLs. Sorry I caught that late.
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
You'll have to excuse me, my old frayed Bob Kane pocket size is calling ...
Night, I'd advise you not to buy those GNs but at your age I could see where you would find them "novelty" if nothing else. It's your money though...
This is not the Batman that I know yet writers who draw fat checks from DC think it is. You don't have to be as diehard as I am and not see that...
At least Bruce Timm respects the source material. B-)
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
But anyway, one of my favorite sites, (other then AJB), has this humorous review of the Spidey cartoons. Hope you enjoy it as much as I did
http://www.atomicmonsters.com/spider-man67.htm
Gentlemen, I have an announcement to make. I Dan, son of David and Denise, brother to Josh and Romy, has finally read a comic-book.
I've only read one Superman story thus far; 'The Oldest Man in Metropolis' in which Clarke drinks a serum that makes him extremely old. As a result, he is weakened and even at one point impersonates the old man of the sea.
The Flash story that I've read concerns Winky, Blinky and Noddy. It seems that these three rascals are rather intellectually challenged (Noddy is fired from his job at a Quarter store after forgetting the price of an item) and they attempt to come up with inventions; which invariably get them into trouble and requires the assistance of the fastest man alive.
I know that these aren't 'paper' comics (they're in book form), but I hope that they count nonetheless.
I tried looking for Spidey; unfortunately he wasn't available.
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
Yes, indeed. Idris Elba is a great actor and little did I know that the guy is British too. However, I never considered Stewart being that short to begin with and even I'm taller than Elba since he's only 6'2".
Here's a picture of Gambit from the upcoming Marvel movie WOLVERINE due this May.
Gambit's my favorite X-Man and I guess what's turning me sour on this rendition of the character is that he's supposed to have red eyes like all of the time
Hopefully, he'll still have the cajun accent and the long coat. What's the deal with that pimpish-looking blouse he's wearing? ?:)
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
There are 20 reviews already up. Read 'em and weep... Punisher at Rotten Tomatoes
These stinking pretentious critics who rag on this movie don't realize that it caters to its fanbase (Which may be this film's downfall in the end). They give a film like Superman Returns more than favorable marks and that had to be one of the weakest comic book films ever with its milquetoast action and emo scenes. DO NOT TAKE THE CRITICS WORD ON THIS; make your own assessment. Clearly it won't be for everyone. It's a grosser version of Commando if said movie were made today.
PWZ might've benefitted from some of the subtleties and/or sensibilities that the '04 one exibited but I felt that my money wasn't wasted here. The editing was questionable and it deserved better writing for a more fleshed out feel but I was very pleased with the end result. I'd love to see a director's cut though.
If it had just mixed this incarnation with Jane's version and it would have been perfect! Fun, sickening violent escapism, nothing more.
Stevenson is The Punisher.
Yes, I am getting the DVD. B-)
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
You mean he's better than Dolph?
And believe me, if I hated it (being the Punisher fan that I am), I would've been more than happy to swallow my pride and say so. Under the circumstances, this is not the case with PWZ; the film is good if you sit back without over-analyzing every little thing wrong with it.
If I'm not mistaken, critics have slammed all three Punisher installments and I've come to the conclusion that they just don't understand the character at all. Perhaps picking up a comic book would help before entering things of this type. 8-) I find redeeming qualities in all 3 films and they can't? ?:)
I love how someone like Tarantino can carve out a career writing caricatures and blood letting (KILL BILL) violence and everyone praises him, yet when a comic book movie comes out that sticks close to the source material in every aspect it is mocked by the same idiots who praise tarantino style violence...c'mon, people are you serious?
War Zone is absurdly OTT with the violence and it makes no apologies for it. There were a couple of kills that I thought were "out there" and from the audience hilarity ensued. But it was awesome at the same time. It's hard to explain really.
If you loved the senseless actioneers of the 80s like Commando & Rambo, PWZ should be right up your alley. It's an outdated but loved theme in a PC society. B-)
P.S. I was surprised that in my viewing audience were like a few couples of elderly people enjoying this movie. Just something that caught my attention. Someone's grandmother is HARDCORE. B-)
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
Sounds like I'll have to have a look :v Thanks, Rogue -{
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Unfortunately, it looks like the audience is staying away. According to Boxofficemojo it earned a paltry $1.65 million on Friday and that will probably translate into about 5-6 million for the weekend, which is a disappointment no matter how you look at it.
The fact that it reminds you of the Dolphster's version pretty much kills what little chance there was of my catching this. BTW, the 1989 Dolph version was on TV a few days ago and I watched a few minutes of it - old Dolph was greyer than ash in that one, he looked positively cadaverous.
You're welcome, Loeff.
Stevenson certainly makes the movie worthwhile. If you liked him as Titus Pullo in Rome, you'll love him in this. I plan on going back tomorrow myself.
Yeah, I thought of that well after I typed it I guess. I may have come across as too passionate?
But like you with GL & Iron Man; Batman, Hulk & Frank Castle will pretty much always have a soft spot with me. I've got loads of books to back that up. ;%
It hurts to me only in that fact that it deserves a stronger audience and that it will probably be another 10 years before I get another Punisher film. I might sound overzealous with my protesting for it but this one was straight out of the 80s with the hardcore violence and ironically the one closest to the source material...and it's bombing.
I still hate the critics for raping it like they have. I seriously loved it so I'm happy. :x
My favorite line from it was when Colin Salmon's character, Budianski, calls all of the cops in the precinct "Krispy Kreme mother*****rs!!!!!!!"
It's just the way he says it. I just lost it.
As far as I'm concerned, Marvel movies for the year 2008 are a perfect 3 for 3.
I think that I'll watch that gem tonight. Did you at least get to the jail/slapping part before you cut it off?
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
Speaking of which... a new and improved Spawn movie would be MOST welcome.
Punisher: War Zone Gets Shot Down
Source:ComingSoon.net December 7, 2008
ComingSoon.net has posted the box office estimates for the weekend which show that Lionsgate's Punisher: War Zone struggled its first three days in theaters:
Newcomer Punisher: War Zone, directed by Lexi Alexander and starring Ray Stevenson, bombed out of the gate with just $4 million from 2,508 theaters, a low average of $1,595 and good for only eighth place. It is less than a third of what the studio's first "Punisher" film opened to in 2004.
It really is a fun movie that harkens back to the balls out actioneers of the 70s-80s. Way before the metrosexual man was invented. PWZ just didn't take.
Funny you should say that. Have you ever read the Punisher/Spawn GN that came out back in the 90s?
That would be up to MacFarlane but I don't think that he has any takers to fund it anyway; I remember him trying to get another film off of the ground to no avail.
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
Personally, I can't say that I'm surprised as the deck was stacked against this one from the getgo. Between Thomas Jane walking away from the part all the behind the scenes drama involving the director, it was already under a cloud. Stevenson aside, the cast was made up of utter unknowns. The film got no word of mouth at all, no sneak previews and not even genre sites like AICN had a review of it. That's never a good sign and suggests that the studio never had much faith in the film to begin with. Besides, the 1980s brand of OTT action movie has really become a dinosaur and hasn't been commercially viable for a long long time. Stars like Stallone, Seagal and Schwarzenegger (before he became a governator) haven't had a hit in well over a decade and today's audiences want something a little more sophisticated.
Regardless of the quality, I guess The Punisher just isn't a viable box office hero. Thomas Jane's kindler, gentler and more audience friendly Punisher didn't fly, even with all the star power and promotion that film received. This one did even worse, and I think the OTT violence really didn't appeal to the average moviegoer. Ultimately, audiences just don't respond to certain characters; we saw the same thing happen with the Hulk, albeit on a more modest level.
It'll be interesting to see what (if anything) Marvel does with the character and how (or even if) this film's box office failure will affect their own films like Thor and Captain America going forward.
But if you happen to catch it on cable, give it a chance. It's really a good film in a grindhouse sort of way. And Stevenson really looks like Frank Castle. B-)
The Marvel Sisters think that it's the best of the three incarnations but that isn't a surprise coming from them I guess.
Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
-Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
There was a brief article over at comingsoon.net about The Punisher. Given its poor box office performance, it is now the biggest box office bomb based on a Marvel property, eclisping even the infamous Howard the Duck. Ouch!
In hindsight, Lionsgate might have been better served by going straight to video (thus avoiding all the negative reviews and word of mouth) or releasing it closer to one of the other high-profile comic book adaptations as it may have been able to piggy-back off of others comics films word of mouth.
At this point, I wonder if Lionsgate will go for the hat trick or if they'll give up the rights to the character and let it revert back to Marvel.
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Just watched Batman Returns again (tis the season and all that), and I so appreciate this film, Burton really sucker-punched everybody with this one IMO, the campy veneer hides some amazingly adult themes - which IMHO is what Batman is all about (the camp can be more or less, sure). What's weird is the Penguin/Batman duality of who's the bigger orphan-freak takes a back seat to S-E-X. And defeminizing feminity: it's like women's lib all grown up and kicking bat-ass all over the place while trying to seduce the Man. In a comicbook superhero movie. Not sure if Burton has ever revisited this with more success than he shows here. Also always forget there's a Siouxsie and the Banshees tune (that Elfman wrote, great pairing) in the party scene and over the end credits, love that. ;%
Looking at superhero movies lately, I realize the ones I prefer have similar depth to them. But kudos to Burton and Keaton and DeVito and Pfeiffer for pulling off such an awesome subterfuge. :v For what it does, it still hasn't been topped IMHO.
I did like the little salutes to prior Hulks with Lou Ferrigno and Bill Bixby making quick appearances. The final scane was also interesting when Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr) met with the General and mentioned putting a team together. That could be interesting.
I recall liking the 2003 Hulk movie and would like to see it again to compare which I liked better. Based on what I can remember, I think the 2003 film story may have been better, with a little bit more emotional insight, but the action was better in this film.