I think:
James Bond should pronounce some form of religion, maybe go to confession and pray for forgiveness for killing people, maybe I could be the preist, which would actually work out well.
I think:
James Bond should pronounce some form of religion, maybe go to confession and pray for forgiveness for killing people, maybe I could be the preist, which would actually work out well.
- May Day was one of the most original characters to ever appear in a Bond film.
- I really like Madonna's Die Another Day theme.
- I find Thunderball incredibly boring at points.
- Moonraker is my most reached for Bond DVD.
- A View To A Kill is actually a good fun romp
- I feel incredibly guilty about being so p!ssed off at Daniel Craig being cast as 007 without even seeing a split second clip of him in the role, or in any other role for that matter...
- Despite the wide variation of Bond portrayals in all actors so far, there's not one I dislike.
And perhaps most controversially...
- Having not been too impressed with the Casino Royale and Live and Let Die novels, I got so bored toward the end of Moonraker in the penultimate chapter that I put it down over a year ago and haven't been bothered to pick it back up since.
- I'm in no rush to read the rest of the Bond novels.
superadoRegent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,656MI6 Agent
- I feel incredibly guilty about being so p!ssed off at Daniel Craig being cast as 007 without even seeing a split second clip of him in the role, or in any other role for that matter...
Two questions: Do you feel guilty for how you felt around a year ago, or now?; Can you share other reasons you feel that way apart from not having seen him in anything?
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
- May Day was one of the most original characters to ever appear in a Bond film.
- I really like Madonna's Die Another Day theme.
- I find Thunderball incredibly boring at points.
- Moonraker is my most reached for Bond DVD.
- A View To A Kill is actually a good fun romp
- I feel incredibly guilty about being so p!ssed off at Daniel Craig being cast as 007 without even seeing a split second clip of him in the role, or in any other role for that matter...
- Despite the wide variation of Bond portrayals in all actors so far, there's not one I dislike.
And perhaps most controversially...
- Having not been too impressed with the Casino Royale and Live and Let Die novels, I got so bored toward the end of Moonraker in the penultimate chapter that I put it down over a year ago and haven't been bothered to pick it back up since.
- I'm in no rush to read the rest of the Bond novels.
And who made you appreciate that fun good romp and that wonderful henchwoman against your will?
Two questions: Do you feel guilty for how you felt around a year ago, or now?; Can you share other reasons you feel that way apart from not having seen him in anything?
I'll reply to this once, but don't hijack it into a debate about Craig please.
I feel guilty for how I felt a year ago. I should not have been so quick to judge without knowing much about his acting credentials (I've since watched Layer Cake, Road to Perdition and Munich), and I shouldn't have been so narrow-minded and unaccepting. His early appearances and awkwardness with the press didn't help the situation, but his subsequent appearances have made me warm to him much more as an offscreen person, and from the clips I've seen I'm confident that I won't find his portrayal bad - whether I think it great or not, I'll let you know in a week-and-a-half.
And now the topic shall return to Eccentric Bond Opinions.
I've just realised- a Bond film in which the Bond theme hardly appears; practically no gadgets and certainly no big save-the-day gadget for Bond, starring one the best and most celebrated actors the series has ever seen; in which Bond drives a dull Ford salloon; with a whole new type of Bond girl (who dies at the end ); all revolving around a sandy-haired Bond whose looks in this film have been somewhat contentious and rounded off with a much rockier main title theme.... yes- that's right! It's A View To A Kill!
I consider Connery's performance in YOLT to be quite good.
I consider Dalton's performance in LTK to be the worst in the series.
I think that Brosnan was able to deliver one lines extremely well.
I consider the "I thought Christmas only comes once a year" line to be among the very best closing lines in the series.
I consider DAF to be among the most underrated Bond films of all time.
I have no problem whatsoever with the way Bond 'treated' the women in TMWTGG.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Two questions: Do you feel guilty for how you felt around a year ago, or now?; Can you share other reasons you feel that way apart from not having seen him in anything?
I'll reply to this once, but don't hijack it into a debate about Craig please.
I feel guilty for how I felt a year ago. I should not have been so quick to judge without knowing much about his acting credentials (I've since watched Layer Cake, Road to Perdition and Munich), and I shouldn't have been so narrow-minded and unaccepting. His early appearances and awkwardness with the press didn't help the situation, but his subsequent appearances have made me warm to him much more as an offscreen person, and from the clips I've seen I'm confident that I won't find his portrayal bad - whether I think it great or not, I'll let you know in a week-and-a-half.
And now the topic shall return to Eccentric Bond Opinions.
• Despite Fleming never really having included it, on the whole, I prefer storylines with a significant sci-fi element.
• For realism, I'll watch Le Femme Nikita; I don't expect or even want realism from a Bond film.
• Overall, the series as a whole is disturbingly sexist and racist.
• Bond should have chest hair.
• FRWL has it's moments, but for the most part, is much too conventional.
• TB is much too long.
• The "deflowering" of Solitaire is distasteful.
• Christopher Lee is overrated.
• MR is one of the best fun-for-the-whole-family action/adventure films ever made ... it's just a terrible Bond movie.
• FYEO is boring.
• Connery looks better in NSNA than DAF ... or YOLT, for that matter.
• LTK is unoriginal headline borrowing and written by the numbers.
• Given that any debut is going to have rough spots, GE is nearly perfect.
• TND is the worst of the lot.
• DAD is a complete mess ... yet exactly what we as fans asked for.
• The "every third film" rule never really came to pass with Brosnan.
• The trend toward Bond girls half the age of Bond is downright creepy.
• I'm keeping my mind open, but right now, I don't understand a single decision EON has made regarding CR.
Overall, the series as a whole is disturbingly sexist and racist.
With all due respect, if you believe that, why do you watch the Bond films?
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Overall, the series as a whole is disturbingly sexist and racist.
With all due respect, if you believe that, why do you watch the Bond films?
Maybe he's a racist sexist!
A few serious ones from me:
1) The only film I've unreservedly enjoyed in the last 20 years is TWINE.
2) Before that, AVTAK
3) The classic era is in the first 20 years, after that it gets a bit pretentious to no good effect
4) Campbell has a cold, uninvolving style on GE
5) John Barry was good for the shallower early Bonds but not so much for heavier more gritty flicks that are meant to be more realistic
-Connery should have turned down DAF, but made a wise move getting involved in NSNA.
-Both Lazenby and Dalton should have made at least another two films each.
-Moore should definitely have quit after OP; it was his best Bond film and he was getting too old.
-LALD is mediocre, and would have been made more interesting if Tee Hee had "pulled a Jaws" and switched sides (I really would have enjoyed seeing that).
-I find some deaths to be objectionable: Corinne Dufour, Lisl, Vijay and (especially) Della Leiter.
-TND is the most gleefully unapologetic entry in the Bond franchise.
-TWINE is a unique, multi-layered Bond film (Watch it carefully and you can pick up a lot of the subtle nuances).
"Well, he certainly left with his tails between his legs."
1)The Bond films and their formula have not been getting tired at all; DAD was just a really badly exectuted film.
2)There is nothing wrong with Bond being 'invincible' and 'cartoonish.'
3)Moore should have quite after OP and should have done AVTAK earlier on in his career.
4)Connery should have done TMWTGG
5)Clive Owen should have been cast for CR.
6)GE should have been less PC.
7)GF has no plotholes. (Or at least none that take away from the story.)
8)Bond may be sexist, but I have no problem with that whatsoever.
9)I do not believe the Bond series has ever been racist.
10)Moore was tough. (He just wasn't as tough as some of the other Bonds.)
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Overall, the series as a whole is disturbingly sexist and racist.
With all due respect, if you believe that, why do you watch the Bond films?
Dan, the title of this thread is Eccentric Bond Opinions, which is exactly what PMJB expressed. Look, I don't agree with him either on that particular topic, but if we all did, his opinion wouldn't be eccentric, would it? You're bickering with supe in one thread, with taity on another, and perhaps with someone else in another thread for all I know. Can you for once just leave things alone?
Dan, the title of this thread is Eccentric Bond Opinions, which is exactly what PMJB expressed. Look, I don't agree with him either on that particular topic, but if we all did, his opinion wouldn't be eccentric, would it? You're bickering with supe in one thread, with taity on another, and perhaps with someone else in another thread for all I know. Can you for once just leave things alone?
First, I simply asked him a question. Second, I don't need advice from you in the slightest. Third, if there were to be bickering on this thread, perhaps you should look at yourself before you start blaming other people and getting involved in issues which don't concern you at all.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
1)The last Bond film which I would describe as an absolute masterpiece was TSWLM.
2)I consider LALD to be among the best Bond films of all time.
3)I don't think that Lazenby, even if given a couple more opportunities, would ever have been a good Bond.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Overall, the series as a whole is disturbingly sexist and racist.
With all due respect, if you believe that, why do you watch the Bond films?
Let me guess, you attend Blue Sky meetings just so you say "Well that's a stupid idea."
Why not ask everyone who posted "I hate DAD" how they then justify having watched it twice (or three times or four ... )?
It's Bond.
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I really love the shot of Bond, hanging from that great Asian drum near the end of DAD's PTS, and the subsequent gongs.
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
WOW! Dalton's my favorite Bond, and I wouldn't even say that!
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edited November 2006
I love the Gibraltar PTS in TLD. Finally 'Smiert Spionam' sees the light of the silver screen. Very good indeed; some of Glen's best work.
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Let me guess, you attend Blue Sky meetings just so you say "Well that's a stupid idea."
Why not ask everyone who posted "I hate DAD" how they then justify having watched it twice (or three times or four ... )?
It's Bond.
I only asked you a question. And may I point out, I'm not the first person to ask someone a question on this thread?
The reason I actually asked (and I wasn't the only person who commented on this) was that if I believed a group of films were ' disturbingly sexist and racist' I don't think I would watch them. You obviously watch the Bond films, so my question is why. You don't have to respond of course, but don't blame me for simply asking a question.
Three more from me:
1)I consider the motorcycle jump to be the best stunt in GE's PTS.
2)I don't believe that LTK was too violent.
3)I don't want Spielberg or Tarantino to ever make a Bond film.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Honor Blackman as Pussy Galore. One word: sizzling.
(Look. everybody. Right here and now, and for the record, I will make this proclamation:
EVERY woman in Bond history is a knockout. Opinions vary, of course, and we all have our favorites but, for the life of me I can't understand the underlying cruelty and out and out viciousness of some members observations concerning the attractiveness of the ladies ( and the Bonds while we're at it).
JFF claims that Claudine Auger looks "drab and drunk" in TB. (?!?!?).
JFF, with all due respect, are you.....serious? I mean...come on...that statement is jaw-dropping! (I expect more from an Alison Doody fan, JFF).
You can search far and wide for 40years and you will not find a Bond girl in the neighbourhood of being "drab". And JFF, you are not alone, check out the cruel criticisms spread throughout this website concerning Sean's looks in DAF or Roger in AVTAK.
Look, it is one thing to criticize a Bond for not looking up to par (thats why they get the big bucks) it is another to be vicious in the criticism.
A little delicacy amd diplomacy is required, good friends, with a pinch of goodwill. If you don't think a Bond girl is pretty enough, fine, but let's keep this in a civilized manner. Cruel remarks about ladies' looks are NOT a sign of sophistication.
Why the rant?
I know there will be objections to my comment that Pussy Galore is one hot lady. All I ask is that we should stop picking on people's looks like we were all stuck back in high school.
Honor Blackman as Pussy Galore. One word: sizzling.
You call that an essentric opinion? Please read the name of the topic. It says essentric not obvious opinions.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Thanks, Dan. You're probably right...it IS obvious...to the majority of us. But somewhere along the way dear ol' Pussy hasn't got enough credit as being a stunning lady. (BTW Honor Blackmamn has NEVER looked less than sensational in my books.)
Eccentric? Perhaps not. But I wanted to nip in the bud any wise guy who would throw out a flippant remark disparaging the looks of a Bond lady. (In recognition of a distasteful pattern...hence the rant.)
Comments
I thought he did in FYEO...
Well... that's putting it mildly...
- I really like Madonna's Die Another Day theme.
- I find Thunderball incredibly boring at points.
- Moonraker is my most reached for Bond DVD.
- A View To A Kill is actually a good fun romp
- I feel incredibly guilty about being so p!ssed off at Daniel Craig being cast as 007 without even seeing a split second clip of him in the role, or in any other role for that matter...
- Despite the wide variation of Bond portrayals in all actors so far, there's not one I dislike.
And perhaps most controversially...
- Having not been too impressed with the Casino Royale and Live and Let Die novels, I got so bored toward the end of Moonraker in the penultimate chapter that I put it down over a year ago and haven't been bothered to pick it back up since.
- I'm in no rush to read the rest of the Bond novels.
Two questions: Do you feel guilty for how you felt around a year ago, or now?; Can you share other reasons you feel that way apart from not having seen him in anything?
And who made you appreciate that fun good romp and that wonderful henchwoman against your will?
Its the best bit of comic relief in the movie!
"Better make that two."
I feel guilty for how I felt a year ago. I should not have been so quick to judge without knowing much about his acting credentials (I've since watched Layer Cake, Road to Perdition and Munich), and I shouldn't have been so narrow-minded and unaccepting. His early appearances and awkwardness with the press didn't help the situation, but his subsequent appearances have made me warm to him much more as an offscreen person, and from the clips I've seen I'm confident that I won't find his portrayal bad - whether I think it great or not, I'll let you know in a week-and-a-half.
And now the topic shall return to Eccentric Bond Opinions.
No one. That's always been the case.
I consider Connery's performance in YOLT to be quite good.
I consider Dalton's performance in LTK to be the worst in the series.
I think that Brosnan was able to deliver one lines extremely well.
I consider the "I thought Christmas only comes once a year" line to be among the very best closing lines in the series.
I consider DAF to be among the most underrated Bond films of all time.
I have no problem whatsoever with the way Bond 'treated' the women in TMWTGG.
"Better make that two."
And that's a comforting thought for me.
• For realism, I'll watch Le Femme Nikita; I don't expect or even want realism from a Bond film.
• Overall, the series as a whole is disturbingly sexist and racist.
• Bond should have chest hair.
• FRWL has it's moments, but for the most part, is much too conventional.
• TB is much too long.
• The "deflowering" of Solitaire is distasteful.
• Christopher Lee is overrated.
• MR is one of the best fun-for-the-whole-family action/adventure films ever made ... it's just a terrible Bond movie.
• FYEO is boring.
• Connery looks better in NSNA than DAF ... or YOLT, for that matter.
• LTK is unoriginal headline borrowing and written by the numbers.
• Given that any debut is going to have rough spots, GE is nearly perfect.
• TND is the worst of the lot.
• DAD is a complete mess ... yet exactly what we as fans asked for.
• The "every third film" rule never really came to pass with Brosnan.
• The trend toward Bond girls half the age of Bond is downright creepy.
• I'm keeping my mind open, but right now, I don't understand a single decision EON has made regarding CR.
Maybe he's a racist sexist!
A few serious ones from me:
1) The only film I've unreservedly enjoyed in the last 20 years is TWINE.
2) Before that, AVTAK
3) The classic era is in the first 20 years, after that it gets a bit pretentious to no good effect
4) Campbell has a cold, uninvolving style on GE
5) John Barry was good for the shallower early Bonds but not so much for heavier more gritty flicks that are meant to be more realistic
Roger Moore 1927-2017
-Both Lazenby and Dalton should have made at least another two films each.
-Moore should definitely have quit after OP; it was his best Bond film and he was getting too old.
-LALD is mediocre, and would have been made more interesting if Tee Hee had "pulled a Jaws" and switched sides (I really would have enjoyed seeing that).
-I find some deaths to be objectionable: Corinne Dufour, Lisl, Vijay and (especially) Della Leiter.
-TND is the most gleefully unapologetic entry in the Bond franchise.
-TWINE is a unique, multi-layered Bond film (Watch it carefully and you can pick up a lot of the subtle nuances).
2)There is nothing wrong with Bond being 'invincible' and 'cartoonish.'
3)Moore should have quite after OP and should have done AVTAK earlier on in his career.
4)Connery should have done TMWTGG
5)Clive Owen should have been cast for CR.
6)GE should have been less PC.
7)GF has no plotholes. (Or at least none that take away from the story.)
8)Bond may be sexist, but I have no problem with that whatsoever.
9)I do not believe the Bond series has ever been racist.
10)Moore was tough. (He just wasn't as tough as some of the other Bonds.)
1)The last Bond film which I would describe as an absolute masterpiece was TSWLM.
2)I consider LALD to be among the best Bond films of all time.
3)I don't think that Lazenby, even if given a couple more opportunities, would ever have been a good Bond.
Roger Moore 1927-2017
Moonraker is Shirley Bassey's best title song.
Octopussy has the best pre-title sequence.
Timothy Dalton has the best intro as Bond.
Samantha Bond is the best Moneypenny.
Let me guess, you attend Blue Sky meetings just so you say "Well that's a stupid idea."
Why not ask everyone who posted "I hate DAD" how they then justify having watched it twice (or three times or four ... )?
It's Bond.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
WOW! Dalton's my favorite Bond, and I wouldn't even say that!
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Moonraker is the best Bond made in the 70's.
The reason I actually asked (and I wasn't the only person who commented on this) was that if I believed a group of films were ' disturbingly sexist and racist' I don't think I would watch them. You obviously watch the Bond films, so my question is why. You don't have to respond of course, but don't blame me for simply asking a question.
Three more from me:
1)I consider the motorcycle jump to be the best stunt in GE's PTS.
2)I don't believe that LTK was too violent.
3)I don't want Spielberg or Tarantino to ever make a Bond film.
Honor Blackman as Pussy Galore. One word: sizzling.
(Look. everybody. Right here and now, and for the record, I will make this proclamation:
EVERY woman in Bond history is a knockout. Opinions vary, of course, and we all have our favorites but, for the life of me I can't understand the underlying cruelty and out and out viciousness of some members observations concerning the attractiveness of the ladies ( and the Bonds while we're at it).
JFF claims that Claudine Auger looks "drab and drunk" in TB. (?!?!?).
JFF, with all due respect, are you.....serious? I mean...come on...that statement is jaw-dropping! (I expect more from an Alison Doody fan, JFF).
You can search far and wide for 40years and you will not find a Bond girl in the neighbourhood of being "drab". And JFF, you are not alone, check out the cruel criticisms spread throughout this website concerning Sean's looks in DAF or Roger in AVTAK.
Look, it is one thing to criticize a Bond for not looking up to par (thats why they get the big bucks) it is another to be vicious in the criticism.
A little delicacy amd diplomacy is required, good friends, with a pinch of goodwill. If you don't think a Bond girl is pretty enough, fine, but let's keep this in a civilized manner. Cruel remarks about ladies' looks are NOT a sign of sophistication.
Why the rant?
I know there will be objections to my comment that Pussy Galore is one hot lady. All I ask is that we should stop picking on people's looks like we were all stuck back in high school.
It is not worthy of Bond fans.
"He's quite mad, you know."
You call that an essentric opinion?
Eccentric? Perhaps not. But I wanted to nip in the bud any wise guy who would throw out a flippant remark disparaging the looks of a Bond lady. (In recognition of a distasteful pattern...hence the rant.)
"You can turn off the charm. I'm immune."