Ouch - 2* from The Times

Moonraker 5Moonraker 5 Ayrshire, ScotlandPosts: 1,821MI6 Agent
A surprisingly scathing write up from The Sunday Times.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2101-2443353.html

All at sea

Daniel Craig may shine in shorts, but Casino Royale shows Bond is a busted flush, laments Cosmo Landesman

The new James Bond film, Casino Royale, hasn’t gone on general release yet — officially, that’s on Friday — but already it has the buzz of a triumphant return. The film is good and Daniel Craig, as Bond, is great, or so it’s said. And you almost feel a kind of patriotic duty to go out and see it.

Don’t bother. James Bond is dead, and no new face can hide the fact that Casino Royale is the same old tosh the producers of the Bond franchise have been serving up since the glory days of the 1960s.

I take that back. Actually, we have here a new and inferior type of tosh. This new Bond, directed by Martin Campbell, who also did 1995’s GoldenEye, is a back-to-basics Bond. It has been stripped of exotic locations, extravagant gadgetry, bikinied beauties and larger-than-life villains. So what’s left? Not much. Campbell and his screenwriters have got rid of the fantasy element and gone for something that aims to be “gritty” and “real” — that is, we get lots more explicit screen violence and emotional intimacy. Bond bleeds. Bond falls in love. This is the first Bond film that is really all about James Bond.

At least Casino Royale starts off with a promising new approach. Instead of the usual pre-credits action, we get a snazzy retro title sequence, based on figures from playing cards. But alarm bells go off as soon as Chris Cornell’s shockingly bland theme song, You Know My Name, starts to play. We then are taken back to the beginning of Bond’s career, and see how he loses his killing virginity by taking out a double agent. This opening sequence, shot in black and white, is full of offbeat angles. But it’s ruined by a script that resorts to the oldest, corniest trick in the spy/action genre. (Even so, I won’t spoil it for you.) The film then moves into colour and into the present. While on a mission in Africa, Bond chases a bombmaker (Sebastien Foucan) through the Nambutu embassy and ends up practically slaughtering the entire staff. Were they terrorists too, or just unfortunate darkies who happened to be in Bond’s way? We never know. Could you have a hero slaughter an entire embassy of white people? I doubt it.

Naturally, M (Judi Dench) is a bit ****ed off with 007.

She yells at him for being “arrogant” and “stupid”, and not following instructions; but, despite his reckless slaughter, she assigns him a new mission. Le Chiffre (Mads Mikkelsen), who is a banker to terrorists, has lost a lot of his clients’ money in a failed stock-market gamble. He has arranged a high-stakes poker game in a casino in Montenegro to try to win millions and pay his clients back before they kill him. The plan is for Bond to beat Le Chiffre at poker and thus destroy a whole terrorist network. Think about the absurdity of that for a moment. Accompanying Bond is a beauty from HM Treasury, Vesper Lynd (Eva Green), whose job it is to keep an eye on the millions Bond has been given to gamble with. Against the odds, Vesper wins his heart.

But the only thing triumphant about Casino Royale is Craig’s performance. He brings to the role sex appeal, sadism and athleticism. (Though he doesn’t look to me like a man who drinks martinis.) Craig actually looks like Gollum’s younger brother, and he charges around like the Terminator. The film aims to be a character-driven study of how 007 was changed by this mission and meeting Vesper. But as far as I can tell, it’s the story of how a sadistic psycho who hated women became a better-dressed and more professional sadistic psycho who hates women. Nor do we ever believe he has fallen in love with Vesper.

The French actress Eva Green, who is this year’s Bond girl, has said that her character isn’t the “classic iconic Bond girl, wearing a bikini, being sexy and firing a gun” — and she’s right. The iconic Bond girl in this film is Bond himself. In a scene that pays homage to Ursula Andress in Dr No, Craig emerges from the sea in a brief pair of trunks. He reveals more of his body than any babe.

As for the bad guys, I don’t think I’ve ever seen such an instantly forgettable bunch. Le Chiffre is just boring — he’s a banker with a funny eye that sheds blood when stressed. And the action sequences don’t fit into the story but are just tedious set pieces that we’ve seen dozens of times. The central battle over the poker table at the casino, on the other hand, is flat. We never get the feeling that anything significant is at stake if Bond loses — except his masculine pride.

I suspect that when all the hype dies down, people will see what a disappointing film Casino Royale is. Despite updating Ian Fleming’s 1953 novel and replacing communist agents with terrorists, the film has no relation to the world we live in. Nor does it offer a fantasy of a glamorous world we would like to escape to. It’s neither an exciting thriller nor an interesting study in character. And there is no memorable iconic moment featuring Bond, his baddies or his beauties, the kind that you take home from the cinema and that stays with you.

Casino Royale, Two stars
12A, 144 mins
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,330MI6 Agent
    That's the worst CR review I've seen so far. Thank god those are very rare so far. Well, at least it will please CnB!
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    Let's hope this isn't the first of many.
  • Johnny DangerJohnny Danger Savannah, GA USAPosts: 60MI6 Agent
    Well, you can't please everybody. He obviously likes the cringe-worthy gags, goofy gadgets and bikini bimbos. (What about Solange? I'm not saying she's a bimbo, but doesn't she wear a bikini in the film?) His favorite Bond film is probably Moonraker or one of the other dumber (imho) Bonds of the 70's.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,854Chief of Staff
    edited November 2006
    A surprisingly scathing write up from The Sunday Times.

    Bond bleeds. Bond falls in love. This is the first Bond film that is really all about James Bond.

    So, what was OHMSS about then?

    But it’s ruined by a script that resorts to the oldest, corniest trick in the spy/action genre.

    It's supposed to be. It's 53 years old, to be exact.

    Craig actually looks like Gollum’s younger brother.

    Someone's been looking at cnb.
  • Johnny DangerJohnny Danger Savannah, GA USAPosts: 60MI6 Agent
    Were they terrorists too, or just unfortunate darkies who happened to be in Bond’s way? We never know. Could you have a hero slaughter an entire embassy of white people? I doubt it.

    Actually, it would probably be easier to get away with killing an embassy full of white people. Ever heard of the LA riots?
  • Johnny DangerJohnny Danger Savannah, GA USAPosts: 60MI6 Agent
    Were they terrorists too, or just unfortunate darkies who happened to be in Bond’s way? We never know. Could you have a hero slaughter an entire embassy of white people? I doubt it.

    Actually, it would probably be easier to get away with killing an embassy full of white people. Ever heard of the LA riots?

    Sorry, Moonraker 5. I didn't mean to sound like I was quoting you. It was the Sunday Times critic I was quoting.
  • SeanConnery007SeanConnery007 The Bond Archive - London, EngPosts: 169MI6 Agent
    Looks like The Times are friends of Pierce Brosnan. The review seemed have expected Die Another Day 2 and we're dis-satistified with a new leash of life for the Bond series. Shame. Hopefully this will be one of very few bad reviews.
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  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    Were they terrorists too, or just unfortunate darkies who happened to be in Bond’s way? We never know. Could you have a hero slaughter an entire embassy of white people? I doubt it.

    Actually, it would probably be easier to get away with killing an embassy full of white people. Ever heard of the LA riots?
    Actually, the victims ran the gamut of races, though Asian storekeepers, mostly Korean Americans, were especially targeted for violence and looting.

    Back on topic, a negative review was inevitable. Not everyone is going to like the direction the Bond films have taken, and though the reviewer is complimentary to Craig, there's an undertone that he's less than impressed by the actor's looks. That's okay. Not everyone is going to like a Bond film in the first place, and not everyone is going to like one that walks the line between going back to the beginning and revising the franchise.
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,948MI6 Agent
    Looks like The Times are friends of Pierce Brosnan. The review seemed have expected Die Another Day 2 and we're dis-satistified with a new leash of life for the Bond series.

    From the same reviewer's Die Another Day review:



    "The big challenge for every actor playing Bond is to make the role his own. Connery had cool, Moore had camp and Dalton was all dark and disturbed. But what's Brosnan's Bond? As far as I can tell, after four films, he still hasn't found his own voice.

    Here, he looks like an ageing gigolo in a rented tux. Brosnan has the screen presence of a mannequin and the acting talent of an afternoon-soap star. All I can say is; come back George Lazenby, all is forgiven."
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,948MI6 Agent
    At least even in the most negative reviews Craig's performance is described as 'triumphant'; I don't think I've seen anyone say he's not more than capable in the role yet.

    I can believe he has a point with:
    But, as far as I can tell, it's the story of how a sadistic psycho who hated women became a better dressed and more professional sadistic psycho who hates women.
    too- it's a problem I thought Batman Begins suffered from so I can imagine Casino may have it oo.
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,948MI6 Agent
    The Times wrote:
    The plan is for Bond to beat Le Chiffre at poker and thus destroy a whole terrorist network. Think about the absurdity of that for a moment.

    Well yeah; but what were they supposed to do? If you're going to adapt Casino Royale you're going to be stuck with that bit of absurdity.

    The Times wrote:
    Despite updating Ian Fleming’s 1953 novel and replacing communist agents with terrorists, the film has no relation to the world we live in. Nor does it offer a fantasy of a glamorous world we would like to escape to. It’s neither an exciting thriller nor an interesting study in character. And there is no memorable iconic moment featuring Bond, his baddies or his beauties, the kind that you take home from the cinema and that stays with you.

    Believable concerns; I can see where he may be coming from there.
  • Klaus HergescheimerKlaus Hergescheimer Posts: 332MI6 Agent
    It's interesting that the weekday Times loved the movie, and the Sunday Times panned it.
  • Moore Not LessMoore Not Less Posts: 1,095MI6 Agent
    Well, at least it offers some balance in the face of all the positive reviews. Regardless, I will just treat this review with the same pinch of salt that I treated all the others with.

    One example. Cosmo states: 'It has been stripped of exotic locations'. Well, if the Bahamas and Venice are not exotic then I don't know what is.
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited November 2006
    But, as far as I can tell, it's the story of how a sadistic psycho who hated women became a better dressed and more professional sadistic psycho who hates women.
    Except Bond doesn't hate woman. ?:) Also, while he might be sadistic, I wouldn't describe Bond as a psycho.
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • ant007ukant007uk Great BritainPosts: 67MI6 Agent
    Well I guess it had to happen, with all the positive reviews out there. I bet the critic felt he to stand out from the rest and give a negative review just so that he would get noticed.

    If Casino Royale is a hit and I think it will be, will the The Times be big enough to say they were wrong? I somehow doubt it.

    After all that is said and done, I guess the only reviews that matter will be the ones the fans give it come Thurday!!!!
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    edited November 2006
    Well...the other camp has finally been heard from :)) I guess ol' Cosmo won't be seeing it again :v

    This should, at least, allay fears that there was a huge, conspiracy-riddled critical whitewash taking place, wherein the new Bond film would only receive raves B-)

    If CR can maintain this ratio of good to bad notices, it will be a great success.
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,330MI6 Agent
    I'm looking forward to the results for CR on Metacritic.com
    You might know it: they find an average of all reviews of a film. It's not yet up for CR.
  • highhopeshighhopes Posts: 1,358MI6 Agent
    Cosmo?????? 'nuff said.
  • highhopeshighhopes Posts: 1,358MI6 Agent
    Me again. I just reread the review and it seems pretty apparent to me that Cosmo's opinion of CR is only slightly lower than his opinion of Bond films in general. He thinks they're "tosh." I can't say exactly what that means since that expression isn't used in the States, but it doesn't sound complimentary.
  • Klaus HergescheimerKlaus Hergescheimer Posts: 332MI6 Agent
    Interesting, though, that while he does lampoon the movie, he still gives Craig a rave review.
  • Willie GarvinWillie Garvin Posts: 1,412MI6 Agent
    He approves of Craig--it's the Bond films he doesn't care for.But even so,IMO he's not too harsh in his dismissive comments.

    "Tosh" is British slang for "nonsense" and "silliness".

    Could've been worse...
  • Moonraker 5Moonraker 5 Ayrshire, ScotlandPosts: 1,821MI6 Agent
    "Tosh" is British slang for "nonsense" and "silliness".
    I'd actually use tosh as in "just rubbish".
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    This review rings horribly true to me.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

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  • A7ceA7ce Birmingham, EnglandPosts: 656MI6 Agent
    A surprisingly scathing write up from The Sunday Times.


    This opening sequence, shot in black and white, is full of offbeat angles. But it’s ruined by a script that resorts to the oldest, corniest trick in the spy/action genre. (Even so, I won’t spoil it for you.)


    I may be missing something, could someone please PM me and let me know what the oldest trick referred to above is? Don't worry about Spoliers etc
  • JamesbondjrJamesbondjr Posts: 462MI6 Agent
    edited November 2006
    Personally I don't see the point in reading anything into reviews of films. A review is the sole opinion of just one person and is meaningless to anybody else.

    How many times on this forum or others does someone pipe up with a love for a film or moment in a film, only to be cut down by people who disagree.

    Sure its interesting to see what other people think, but do you really care if its a bad review? Surely not!

    When I tell people that I'm a Bond nut I am constantly nagged by people who claim to be Bond fans as well, telling me that Goldfinger IS the best and that I can't possibly think that Moonraker is a GOOD film.

    At the end of the day your taste and what you enjoy is a very personal thing, if someone else doesn't like it, you know what, to hell with them.
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  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,948MI6 Agent
    ant007uk wrote:
    If Casino Royale is a hit and I think it will be, will the The Times be big enough to say they were wrong? I somehow doubt it.

    Well, he's not wrong. It's his opinion; he doesn't say that no-one else will like it. No-one's opinion is 'right' or 'wrong'.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,330MI6 Agent
    I think Aint-it-cool-news.com has a good idea. the reviewer first writes what his expectations were, how he likes the genre etc. Then he writes the review. If someone writes a review of a sci-fi movie starring Tom Cruise hates the genre but usually likes Tom's movies, this would be very usefull info for the reader.
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    Well Harry takes the long way round the barn getting there, btw, no review on that site yet, what gives?
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • highhopeshighhopes Posts: 1,358MI6 Agent
    A7ce wrote:
    A surprisingly scathing write up from The Sunday Times.


    This opening sequence, shot in black and white, is full of offbeat angles. But it’s ruined by a script that resorts to the oldest, corniest trick in the spy/action genre. (Even so, I won’t spoil it for you.)


    I may be missing something, could someone please PM me and let me know what the oldest trick referred to above is? Don't worry about Spoliers etc

    I'm curious about that too. If anyone has the answer, please PM me also.
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited November 2006
    A7ce wrote:
    I may be missing something, could someone please PM me and let me know what the oldest trick referred to above is? Don't worry about Spoliers etc
    I'm also interested, but if it's a spoiler, I would actually prefer not to know. ;) Therefore, if it's not too much trouble, could someone PM me providing it's not a spoiler?
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
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