David Arnold

Pud2002Pud2002 Posts: 65MI6 Agent
As much as i think David Arnold does a great job with the Bond scores, something was brought to my attention yesterday.
My friend brought the Casino Royale soundtrack round, i had a good listen but he quite rightly pointed out that there wasn't much of a "new style" of music. (which David Arnold had said he'd do) If you take John Barry's scores, each Bond gets their own style of sound. Or even their own style of James Bond theme. David seems use (though less techno) the same sort of theme that he did with Brosnan. To me it doesnt ring out theres a NEW James Bond. I guess this shows, in a way how good Barry was at scoring. What do yous think?

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  • The CatThe Cat Where Blofeld is!Posts: 711MI6 Agent
    Of course, there's nothing new about it, but why was everybody expecting that? Every composer has his way of doing scores, and that's exactly why his fans love him and why others don't. I'd hate to see a composer who does something radically different every time. That's the style why they hire them in the first place. ;)
  • Mark65Mark65 Posts: 21MI6 Agent
    I think the main title song by Chris Cornell is also missing from the Casino Royale soundtrack album. At least it wasn't included on the track listing I saw. Is this the case?

    Mark
  • The CatThe Cat Where Blofeld is!Posts: 711MI6 Agent
    Mark65 wrote:
    I think the main title song by Chris Cornell is also missing from the Casino Royale soundtrack album. At least it wasn't included on the track listing I saw. Is this the case?

    Mark

    Yes it is.
  • AntzstuffAntzstuff Posts: 12MI6 Agent
    Are there 2 different main versions of that song (excluding remixes etc.)? My version sounds different compared to the film version.
  • SeanConnery007SeanConnery007 The Bond Archive - London, EngPosts: 169MI6 Agent
    I believe there is a "full" mix - the version used during the title sequence, and a more "acoustic" mix - used during the credits sequence.
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  • JohmssJohmss Posts: 274MI6 Agent
    David Arnold did a great jog scoring Bond, even if this soundtrack is similar to the ones before, being less thecno makes it "refreshing"

    I've just heard his "Shaken and Stirred Project"... very good stuff, except the James Bond Theme.

    He has similar songs indeed, in fact, i always think he repeats a song both in TWINE and DAD, but, they are both Bond films. i don't see anything strange in that. It would be weird if he repeat pretty much all the soundtrack (which he doesn't)
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    Best Arnold Score?

    TND, TWINE, DAD or CR?

    I havent heard the CR score without the movie yet so i cant judge that but Im gonna have to say DAD was his punchyest and coolest one.

    TWINE was soft and beautiful and TND was cool but kinda wierd.
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

    "Better make that two."
  • Golrush007Golrush007 South AfricaPosts: 3,421Quartermasters
    I like TND the best of David Arnold's Bond scores. Second in CR, followed by DAD and then TWINE.

    I like TND the best because it is great fun to listen to, a bit more so than CR. Arnold uses the james Bond theme a lot, but i love it!
    CR is only narrowly behind TND, there are some really nice cues - I'm The Money, Blunt Instrument, Dinner Jackets, Miami International (a bit long though, I love the opening) and of course The Name's Bond, James Bond.
  • Alan_moreAlan_more UKPosts: 73MI6 Agent
    Antzstuff wrote:
    Are there 2 different main versions of that song (excluding remixes etc.)? My version sounds different compared to the film version.

    There are already at least four versions of the song and I do prefer the film version.
  • Golrush007Golrush007 South AfricaPosts: 3,421Quartermasters
    Does anyone know which version is on the single? - the one which says 'I've seen diamonds cut through harder men' or the one which says 'I've seen this diamond cut through. . .'

    What is the reason for this change of lyric? I think diamonds sound better than this diamond myself.
  • JohmssJohmss Posts: 274MI6 Agent
    Golrush007 wrote:
    Does anyone know which version is on the single? - the one which says 'I've seen diamonds cut through harder men' or the one which says 'I've seen this diamond cut through. . .'

    What is the reason for this change of lyric? I think diamonds sound better than this diamond myself.

    I thought it was for the main title, you know, like to mach it with a diamont image (but in the titles i didn't see a direct reference.

    If you ask me, i love the second version (the first with this diamonds, exactly the one Cornell had (or has) in his Myspace site... but i don't have any idea if there is some special title for that one in particular
  • Moore ThanMoore Than EnglandPosts: 3,173MI6 Agent
    Interesting David Arnold interview with The Guardian. He comments (amongst other things) on ghosts, Stargate, Sherlock, the Olympics, and Bond: "I always said after every Bond there's absolutely no guarantee you would get the next one. I absolutely expected Sam (Mendes) to use Tom (Newman). The thing has to move on, otherwise it ends up stagnating. There are still other things I could do with it, things we started in Quantum of Solace, but that story is kind of gone. Sam's thing is different."

    Bond and Sherlock composer David Arnold: 'He doesn't follow the herd'
    http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/aug/04/james-bond-sherlock-composer-david-arnold
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  • Thunderbird 2Thunderbird 2 East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,818MI6 Agent
    edited August 2013
    Well, if we don't get Mr Arnold back for Bond 24, and innhis own words it looks like 007 has moved on, I hope we continue to hear his work on other big film as well as Tv projects. He scored the audio Dr Who's and did a very nice remix for the 90s Randall and Hipkirk Deceased, based closely on the original. I'd love to hear his take on the Thunderbirds theme! Joel Goldsmith retained his Stargate theme for the SG1 series, and I love his Bond scores, punchy and modern, but reflecting the class and style of John Barry.

    I have the Casino R soundtrack too, and think its brilliant, folowed by TWINE. I sometimes use "Come in 007 Your Time Is Up" "Ice Bandits" and "Madagascar Chase" at the gym. I have a copy of. The Best Of Bond (Red cover / 3rd version) which is up to "You Know My Name" as well to compensate its absence on the film sountrack CD. I agree there is a definative difference between the soundtrack version and the film titles version of the song.

    At some stage I may get the DAD soundtrack. Need to relisten to QoS too.
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