Theatre I was in was about 35% full on a Friday night.
When my brother and I went on Wednesday both showings we could have gone to were fully booked. We got in last night by booking ahead; the theatre had but a few single empty seats.
Then again, hasn't Casino Royale been extraordinarily successful in Britain? I seem to remember reading that it had the third biggest opening in British history. Similarly, it seems to be proving something of a hit across the world—including the United States (even though, compared to other films, I understand the U.S. represents a smaller proportion of overall gross for Bond pictures).
Then again, hasn't Casino Royale been extraordinarily successful in Britain? I seem to remember reading that it had the third biggest opening in British history.
It's true that Casino Royale has been extraordinarily successful in Britain. It did open with the third highest numbers in British history, but was inflation taken into account?
Well, I saw the film rather late - just last night, more than a week after its release - and we had trouble even getting tickets because the place was so full. Even when we did get in there and sit down, it didn't take long for people to snatch every last seat! We're loving it in the UK!
Theatre I was in was about 35% full on a Friday night.
And this proves what, exactly? This brings to mind the story that, after Richard Nixon won the 1972 presidential election, the famous film critic Pauline Kael was heard to say, "I don't understand how Nixon won--I don't know anyone who voted for him!"
This proves that in a major US city on a Friday night the theatre was 35% full. It just a statement. What do you work for MGM or Sony? Who cares? It was a great movie, I was just disappointed because I like to see a movie with a big crowd.
This proves that in a major US city on a Friday night the theatre was 35% full. It just a statement. What do you work for MGM or Sony? Who cares? It was a great movie, I was just disappointed because I like to see a movie with a big crowd.
Sony. We're all being paid by them, every single one of us. The sell out showings are a myth, as are the actual numbers coming in. We're just here to plug it. Thanks for mentioning the studio's name, by the way; that gives us Mods an extra fiver each to spend in the Sony Store.
If it was just a statement, then why did you mention it? Especially, why did you mention it in that context?
Once again, WHO CARES? For some of you it seems like its some sort of personal vindication if the film does very well. WHO CARES? It was a great film whether its a box office flop or mega hit. There have been plenty of great films that were flops and plenty of lousy films that were smashes. WHO CARES??? My theatre was 35% full. It sucked for me because I like a full theatre. It doesn't matter. If you like the film then you like it. If you hate it then you hate it. How it does doensn't matter unless you work for MGM or Sony!!
It matters because if CR flops, there may be no more Bond films. It matters because if CR is a huge hit, EON and Sony may reason that we liked the direction of the film and that they'll make Bond 22 along the same lines. It also matters because there's a certain anti-Craig website out there that's claiming their silly little "boycott" of CR is a "triumphant" success, and I sadistically wish to see them eat their words.
Really, down2000, I didn't mean to get you all riled up. Please excuse me for misunderstanding your post. I'm not very good with syllogistic reasoning, so I perhaps drew the wrong conclusions. My formula worked like this:
This is a thread about Bond's box office success
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CR isn't the box office success we all think it is!
Stupid me.
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I care that the movie is a hit, I care that it takes a lot of money - that way Sony/MGM/Eon will continue to make James Bond films, and hopefully spend hundreds of millions of dollars in doing so.
I've seen Casino Royale several times now and it's always been over half full.
Well, I shall give Hardy a well earned days rest from the number crunching.
Why do Americans love Penguins? Considering they are contributing more to their eventual demise than any other country in the world right now.
BoxOfficeMojo's Friday estimates are as follows. Happy Feet grossed $15,750,000 which gives it a grand US total of $77,750,000. Casino Royale grossed $13,250,000 which gives it a grand US total of $76,700,000. Add on the overseas estimate of $43,407,886 and it all adds up to $120,107,886 worldwide.
I kinda think it matters how CR does at the box office, especially in light of past conversations on this board re Craig will not work as/sell Bond, the reboot will confuse people and not sell Bond, lack of identifiable formula will not sell Bond, etc. Those arguments were used pretty crushingly against those who supported Craig/the reboot, so just being human you damn betcha there's a feeling of vindication, seeing how well CR is doing at the box office. I'm sure I'll get over it eventually, it's only been a week but it's hard to imagine a more successful showing for Craig as Bond right out of the box. And that's something to crow about...in moderation of course. :007)
Well, I shall give Hardy a well earned days rest from the number crunching.
Thanks, MNL--I was actually planning to wait until Sunday to post the numbers, since by that time they'll no longer be estimates. I like my figures firm!
Theatre I was in was about 35% full on a Friday night.
Theatre I saw it in last night was about 70-75% full. This is strange, since it was a later showtime (9:50) and at an out-of-the-way theatre that never sells out (but is convenient to my apartment).
When I saw the same showing last week, it was actually *less* full. For what it's worth.
As for "Happy Feet," I'm not too wrapped around the axle that it's beating CR. After all, as a kid film it's almost guaranteed bigger numbers than a more adult-oriented action film. Plus it's shorter, which means more showings.
If CR was getting trounced by, say, "The Fountain" or "Deja Vu," I'd be a little worried.
Hey, we all know its gonna be a hit despite those "boycotters". The whole boycott thing was ridiculous, especially their reasons! I still don't think it matters that this film has to be #1 at the box office. Hey, OHMSS is one of the best films of the series and was the lowest grossing Bond film. DAD was the highest grossing and in my opinion, one of the worst. Star Wars Episode I was the 2nd highest grossing "Star Wars" film and was the worst of the six. MGM will keep making these films no matter what.
'Casino Royale' Biggest Global Bond Ever; #1 Overseas With $200+ Mil Already.
007 is so far doing Da Vinci Code-like biz in all 50 countries where it's opened No. 1 (except the U.S. where it opened No. 2). There were 18 new international debuts for Casino Royale this week - all #1, including France, Germany, Spain and Scandinavia. Last week, the spy pic was #1 in all 27 countries where it opened, earning $42.2 mil from the UK, Russia, India and small territories in the Mideast and Asia. (Last week, it scored the #9 all-time UK opening, and the biggest Bond opening ever in the UK by 46%.) Right before the debut weekend, Sony Pictures was lowering expectations for Casino Royale in the U.S. and counting more on foreign sales. The studio was right: the pic now looks like the biggest Bond ever worldwide, moving up from $82.8 mil last weekend to easily passing $200 mil this weekend with many major foreign territories still to go, including Japan, Korea, Italy and Australia. Box office gurus say Daniel Craig will easily beat the biggest grosser in the Pierce Brosnan series, 2002's Die Another Day, and its $432 mil global take.
Blueman sort of stole my thunder here, but the BoxOfficeMojo estimates are out now (again, I'm really looking for those solid numbers!), and they reveal that the totals for the big Thanksgiving weekend are:
OK, no big surprise that HF again took top place at the box office, given that the little rugrats are at home and parents are probably desperate to keep them entertained; but that CR in its second weekend of release knocked the socks off a heavily promoted Denzel-Washington-starring, Jerry-Bruckheimer-produced action extravaganza in its debut is nothing short of astounding!
So, CR's totals in the U.S. are now estimated to be $94,223,000; worldwide, they're $222,423,000. The movie is officially a smash! {[]
but that CR in its second weekend of release knocked the socks off a heavily promoted Denzel-Washington-starring, Jerry-Bruckheimer-produced action extravaganza in its debut is nothing short of astounding!
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Yeah, for Bond to fight off another adult-aimed action flick is the real test of the movie's staying power. I'm hoping it'll continue to power through the holiday season. No action movies or LOTR sequels due out that I know of...
And Casino Royale's figures are firming up very nicely indeed. It looks like it's got real legs and I'm delighted about that. I made my second contribution to the box office earlier today. I enjoyed the film just as much (if not more so) second time around.
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The CR Doomsayer Crowd has gotten rather quiet... :v
And I'll drink to that {[] Nothing succeeds like success...
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Not many action movies on the holiday movie calender at all. Next week The Nativity opens which I think could be big. Then Blood Diamond with Leonardo DiCaprio and Jennifer Connelly opens 12/08. I think CR has room to run.
Sorry Hardy. I saw that posted on another board and copied it here, it's the first prediction of CR's final grosses I'd seen and it kinda took me by surprise.
This is really good news. Anecdotally, I think it must be getting good word to mouth. I'm not sure there was a great deal of awareness here in Northern California about CR going into the opening (I've yet to see a TV commercial for the movie, but maybe I don't watch enough), beyond some general knowledge that a new guy was playing the role. But I've noticed the audience getting larger and larger at each of the three showings I attended, which is unusual. By Friday, the place was almost full for a morning screening.
I think a lot of people who figured they had seen everything there was to see in a Bond film are discovering that's not the case. That bodes really well for Bond 22. All those folks who saw CR will be marking their calendars for November 2008. I think it shows that there is a lot of life left in the character, provided you work to keep him fresh.
Casino Royale the most succesful Bond film ever?
For Deadline Hollywood Daily and for BOX OFFICE MOJO http://www.boxofficemojo.com/ the worldwide box office success for Casino Royale continues, where it has opened #1 in all 50 where it has opened (with the exception of the US) - reports Deadline Hollywood Daily.
For Box office Mojo the worldwide box office for Casino Royale currently exceeds an estimated $$222,423,000
($128.2 million foreign; $94.223 US).
A lot of people are predicting that Daniel Craig’s Casino Royale will become the most successful Bond film yet.
Perphaps with estimate final box office exceeding $575 million worldwide.
Rory Bruer, head of distribution at Sony, said that ‘Casino Royale is on course to pass 2002’s Die Another Day ($161 million US; $432 million worldwide) to become the top-grossing Bond flick,’
"This opening speaks volumes as to how Craig is being accepted as Bond," said Rory Bruer, president of domestic distribution at Sony. "He has a raw, diamond-in-the-rough quality and he manages to show many facets of the character. His popularity will continue to build."
Women were 45% of the "Casino Royale" audience and rated the film almost as highly as men did, Bruer said. Overall, 84% of moviegoers considered it "excellent" or "very good." http://www.calendarlive.com/movies/reviews/cl-fi-penguins20nov20,0,5172944.story?coll=cl-home-more-channels
The movie cost $85 million to make, according to Internet Movie Database
Sort of anticlimactic now, but BoxOfficeMojo has finally posted the official numbers. CR came in slightly below the projected $31 million with $30,785,874 (still pretty darned close, though); and HF beat it out at $37,038,046. Still, CR is one heck of a hit--no other movie even came close in the U.S., and as of November 26, CR's worldwide take is $222,814,213. Not bad for ten days' work!
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Doesn't make much sense- surely Happy Feet was released at this time because it's Thanksgiving in the US and the kids are all off school? Nowhere else actually celebrates Thanksgiving.
Don't remember where I heard it but I heard that Happy Feet made more than CR in its first week, or something like that. I went to see CR on Thanksgiving Day and there werent a whole lot of people there (but hey, it was Thanksgiving) but I bought my tickets 2 weeks in advance and all of the theaters in Vegas, cept for 1 on the BFE side of town were sold out for all of the days surrounding Thanksgiving.
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Then again, hasn't Casino Royale been extraordinarily successful in Britain? I seem to remember reading that it had the third biggest opening in British history. Similarly, it seems to be proving something of a hit across the world—including the United States (even though, compared to other films, I understand the U.S. represents a smaller proportion of overall gross for Bond pictures).
It's true that Casino Royale has been extraordinarily successful in Britain. It did open with the third highest numbers in British history, but was inflation taken into account?
And this proves what, exactly? This brings to mind the story that, after Richard Nixon won the 1972 presidential election, the famous film critic Pauline Kael was heard to say, "I don't understand how Nixon won--I don't know anyone who voted for him!"
Sony. We're all being paid by them, every single one of us. The sell out showings are a myth, as are the actual numbers coming in. We're just here to plug it. Thanks for mentioning the studio's name, by the way; that gives us Mods an extra fiver each to spend in the Sony Store.
If it was just a statement, then why did you mention it? Especially, why did you mention it in that context?
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Really, down2000, I didn't mean to get you all riled up. Please excuse me for misunderstanding your post. I'm not very good with syllogistic reasoning, so I perhaps drew the wrong conclusions. My formula worked like this:
This is a thread about Bond's box office success
+
Comment that a theater was only 35% full on a Friday night
=
CR isn't the box office success we all think it is!
Stupid me.
I do.
I care that the movie is a hit, I care that it takes a lot of money - that way Sony/MGM/Eon will continue to make James Bond films, and hopefully spend hundreds of millions of dollars in doing so.
I've seen Casino Royale several times now and it's always been over half full.
Why do Americans love Penguins? Considering they are contributing more to their eventual demise than any other country in the world right now.
BoxOfficeMojo's Friday estimates are as follows. Happy Feet grossed $15,750,000 which gives it a grand US total of $77,750,000. Casino Royale grossed $13,250,000 which gives it a grand US total of $76,700,000. Add on the overseas estimate of $43,407,886 and it all adds up to $120,107,886 worldwide.
Thanks, MNL--I was actually planning to wait until Sunday to post the numbers, since by that time they'll no longer be estimates. I like my figures firm!
Theatre I saw it in last night was about 70-75% full. This is strange, since it was a later showtime (9:50) and at an out-of-the-way theatre that never sells out (but is convenient to my apartment).
When I saw the same showing last week, it was actually *less* full. For what it's worth.
As for "Happy Feet," I'm not too wrapped around the axle that it's beating CR. After all, as a kid film it's almost guaranteed bigger numbers than a more adult-oriented action film. Plus it's shorter, which means more showings.
If CR was getting trounced by, say, "The Fountain" or "Deja Vu," I'd be a little worried.
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/
Includes 18 #1 debuts worldwide this week.
'Casino Royale' Biggest Global Bond Ever; #1 Overseas With $200+ Mil Already.
007 is so far doing Da Vinci Code-like biz in all 50 countries where it's opened No. 1 (except the U.S. where it opened No. 2). There were 18 new international debuts for Casino Royale this week - all #1, including France, Germany, Spain and Scandinavia. Last week, the spy pic was #1 in all 27 countries where it opened, earning $42.2 mil from the UK, Russia, India and small territories in the Mideast and Asia. (Last week, it scored the #9 all-time UK opening, and the biggest Bond opening ever in the UK by 46%.) Right before the debut weekend, Sony Pictures was lowering expectations for Casino Royale in the U.S. and counting more on foreign sales. The studio was right: the pic now looks like the biggest Bond ever worldwide, moving up from $82.8 mil last weekend to easily passing $200 mil this weekend with many major foreign territories still to go, including Japan, Korea, Italy and Australia. Box office gurus say Daniel Craig will easily beat the biggest grosser in the Pierce Brosnan series, 2002's Die Another Day, and its $432 mil global take.
1. Happy Feet: $37,945,000
2. CR: $31,000,000
3. Deja Vu: $20,830,000
OK, no big surprise that HF again took top place at the box office, given that the little rugrats are at home and parents are probably desperate to keep them entertained; but that CR in its second weekend of release knocked the socks off a heavily promoted Denzel-Washington-starring, Jerry-Bruckheimer-produced action extravaganza in its debut is nothing short of astounding!
So, CR's totals in the U.S. are now estimated to be $94,223,000; worldwide, they're $222,423,000. The movie is officially a smash! {[]
Yeah, for Bond to fight off another adult-aimed action flick is the real test of the movie's staying power. I'm hoping it'll continue to power through the holiday season. No action movies or LOTR sequels due out that I know of...
You and me both, Hardy.
And Casino Royale's figures are firming up very nicely indeed. It looks like it's got real legs and I'm delighted about that. I made my second contribution to the box office earlier today. I enjoyed the film just as much (if not more so) second time around.
And I'll drink to that {[] Nothing succeeds like success...
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I think a lot of people who figured they had seen everything there was to see in a Bond film are discovering that's not the case. That bodes really well for Bond 22. All those folks who saw CR will be marking their calendars for November 2008. I think it shows that there is a lot of life left in the character, provided you work to keep him fresh.
For Deadline Hollywood Daily and for BOX OFFICE MOJO
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/ the worldwide box office success for Casino Royale continues, where it has opened #1 in all 50 where it has opened (with the exception of the US) - reports Deadline Hollywood Daily.
For Box office Mojo the worldwide box office for Casino Royale currently exceeds an estimated $$222,423,000
($128.2 million foreign; $94.223 US).
A lot of people are predicting that Daniel Craig’s Casino Royale will become the most successful Bond film yet.
Perphaps with estimate final box office exceeding $575 million worldwide.
Rory Bruer, head of distribution at Sony, said that ‘Casino Royale is on course to pass 2002’s Die Another Day ($161 million US; $432 million worldwide) to become the top-grossing Bond flick,’
"This opening speaks volumes as to how Craig is being accepted as Bond," said Rory Bruer, president of domestic distribution at Sony. "He has a raw, diamond-in-the-rough quality and he manages to show many facets of the character. His popularity will continue to build."
Women were 45% of the "Casino Royale" audience and rated the film almost as highly as men did, Bruer said. Overall, 84% of moviegoers considered it "excellent" or "very good."
http://www.calendarlive.com/movies/reviews/cl-fi-penguins20nov20,0,5172944.story?coll=cl-home-more-channels
The movie cost $85 million to make, according to Internet Movie Database
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
And penguin fanciers