Boycott Casino Royale!

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  • highhopeshighhopes Posts: 1,358MI6 Agent
    As a Bond fanatic, I was obviously delighted when Casino Royale first came out in theaters. Although the tickets were sold out for the 9pm and 11pm showings, I persist and bought the 12am tickets. I'm sad to say that I was let down. I really liked the sin city esque style in the opening and the opening song "You know my name" by Chris Cornell was indeed catchy. Overall I thought the movie was deamable but the actor was not. When asked if I enjoyed the film, I replied "The movie itself was really good, he was not." The most offensive line he could've said in the movie was:

    Bartender: Shaken or stirred?
    James Bond: Does it look like I give a damn?

    That just defeated the whole purpose of Bond franchise.


    So let me get this straight, Gustave: the whole purpose of the Bond franchise is to establish his martini preference? Well, no one can accuse you of being high maintenance. :))

    As for Craig, you say you like the movie, but not him. Your reasons for not liking him include, if I understand your post, the offending line above and the fact that he drank the poison. Yes, I hate too it when actors improvise their roles. Clearly, the script called for him to say "shaken" in response to the bartender's question and to use Bond's X-ray glasses to see through LeChiffre's girlfriend back (Pierce had conveniently left them in the glove compartment of the DB5 after TND) and see her poison his drink. It's like Craig thought it made more sense for Bond to be concentrating on the poker game or something. What an idiot!!!
  • armourerarmourer United KingdomPosts: 41MI6 Agent
    edited November 2006
    glidrose wrote:
    stumac7 wrote:
    I much prefer Die Another Day than Casino Royale. The only part of the movie i enjoyed was the action scenes (house sinking in Venice) and the relationship between Bond and Vesper

    You preferred Die Another Day to Casino Royale??

    IMHO Dad was awful (come on it had an invisible car!)and so unrealistic. Whereas CR was a breath of fresh air and Craig was brill as Bond!!

    He preferred DAD to CR.......:))

    Says it all really....;)

    Agree, Glidrose - there's no accounting for taste.?:) :)
  • ant007ukant007uk Great BritainPosts: 67MI6 Agent
    As a Bond fanatic, I was obviously delighted when Casino Royale first came out in theaters. Although the tickets were sold out for the 9pm and 11pm showings, I persist and bought the 12am tickets. I'm sad to say that I was let down. I really liked the sin city esque style in the opening and the opening song "You know my name" by Chris Cornell was indeed catchy. Overall I thought the movie was deamable but the actor was not. When asked if I enjoyed the film, I replied "The movie itself was really good, he was not." The most offensive line he could've said in the movie was:

    Bartender: Shaken or stirred?
    James Bond: Does it look like I give a damn?

    That just defeated the whole purpose of Bond franchise. It also ticked me off that he Solange was in plain sight in front of his drink, yet he decided to down the spike drink. Although the character was similar to the original novel, Craig just doesn't cut it.

    I'm still a Brosnan fan myself, and although he is not much of an actor, he is still a better Bond in my view. I may be ticking off a lot of Craig fans, but it had to be said.

    Support: http://www.danielcraigisnotbond.com/boycott_casino_royale.html


    Dear oh Dear, you muppet!!! You're entitled to your opinion, but to ask people to support craigisnotbond, how unbelievable of you. Pierce is gone, get over it. You call yourself a fanatic, yet you want people to boycott the film. A bit of a contradiction there, me thinks.

    Tell me, what is it like to be in the minority? 99% of people who have seen the film, seem to think that Daniel Craig has done superbly, and not even Brozzer could have got a performance like that.

    Deep down, I dont think you do have a problem with Craig, if you're honest with yourself, you would have a problem with anyone other than PB.

    Ah well, each to their own. They say, they're aint nothing as strange as folk.
  • PredatorPredator Posts: 790Chief of Staff
    Hold on here everyone.

    Whether or not you agree with another member, they are entitled to post their opinion.

    I'll admit that the title of this thread is more than a little provocative, but if someone doesn't like a film because a line wasn't used that's up to them.

    There will be no personal comments made about them. OK?

    Cheers
  • glidroseglidrose Posts: 138MI6 Agent
    armourer wrote:
    glidrose wrote:
    stumac7 wrote:

    You preferred Die Another Day to Casino Royale??

    IMHO Dad was awful (come on it had an invisible car!)and so unrealistic. Whereas CR was a breath of fresh air and Craig was brill as Bond!!

    He preferred DAD to CR.......:))

    Says it all really....;)

    Agree, Glidrose - there's no accounting for taste.?:) :)

    Glad to hear you enjoyed the film, Armourer....;)
  • highhopeshighhopes Posts: 1,358MI6 Agent
    Predator wrote:
    Hold on here everyone.

    Whether or not you agree with another member, they are entitled to post their opinion.

    I'll admit that the title of this thread is more than a little provocative, but if someone doesn't like a film because a line wasn't used that's up to them.

    There will be no personal comments made about them. OK?

    Cheers

    Of course.
    For the record, the "idiot" comment in my post referred to Craig's paying attention to the game, not Gustave.
  • col007col007 Posts: 5MI6 Agent
    "Don't quote me but Casino Royale is James Bland. And
    very long. Lots of cool little moments don't deliver what
    America will want. And Daniel Craig isn't Bond. He's
    Jason Bourne in five years." -- Hotshot Manhattan
    movie guy --hollywood-elsewhere.com

    lmao read that on that stupid website

    i did'nt think bond was america or for that matter belong to them :s
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    edited November 2006
    emtiem wrote:
    Digital VIDEO Discs, JFF :D To an old fart like me, any movie media you can pop in a machine and watch is a video.

    Digital VERSATILE Dics, actually! ;)

    Interesting...all my Bond disc boxes say 'DVD Video' on them...go figure...
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  • MyrddinMerlinoMyrddinMerlino Posts: 37MI6 Agent
    Perhaps you didn't notice, but most people on this site LIKE Craig, and were happy with his stellar performance. I'm afraid not many will be supporting CNB, and I think I speak for everyone here when I say that those who support them will not be surpported by us.

    It's fine not to like Craig, but to degrade him and everyone else involved in the movie is pathetic.

    I agree, someone is as the last japanese.
    However we had a wonderfull film, the best of this year!
  • VW2006VW2006 Posts: 47MI6 Agent
    edited November 2006
    That CNB site is funny. :s

    But Gustave is wrong! The invisible car was in one of the scenes. You just couldn't see it. :))
  • Lyle Dark-008Lyle Dark-008 Posts: 64MI6 Agent
    I said before, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I think Casino Royale (the movie) did quite okay. But however, I personally think that this movie wasn't any better than DAD. Infact, I didn't see this as a 007 movie at all. But... overall, its a great action film.
  • markdownmarkdown Posts: 47MI6 Agent
    edited November 2006
    VW2006 wrote:
    That CNB site is funny. :s

    But Gustave is wrong! The invisible car was in one of the scenes. You just couldn't see it. :))
    yes i think i saw it pierce was inside getting a close up view of a real actor playing the part much better then he ever could.:)
  • royalmileroyalmile Station CPosts: 115MI6 Agent
    Funny................when I saw the movie, there was some kid in the seats behind (would NOT shut up, grrrrrrrrrrrrr) who shouted out, at the martini moments, "no, it's shaken NOT stirred!" Thankfully, the laughs and sighs of disbelief from the majority, who DID get the point were palpable and served to quell my anger at such...............knobheadedness.
    There IS a precedent to this, you know, apart from the obvious literary ones.
    As one example, in YOLT where Henderson mixes it up (no pun intended!) and Connery brilliantly shows Bond's gracious acceptance. Of course, when Tiger offers him a drink and he opts for Saki over the Martini, we also see an example of Bond, though often fastidious about his intakes, showing his priorities are never skewed and he is far from being a self-caricature. The "do I look like I give a damn?" line merely follows this great lineage IMHO.
    I LOVED the line.
  • VW2006VW2006 Posts: 47MI6 Agent
    On second thought maybe I will boycott the film...

    ...after I see it again in the theater

    ...after I re-read the novel (twice)

    ...after I but the DVD when that comes out (and subsequent special editions)

    ...and after I (maybe) buy the On-Set picture book.

    Then I'll be ready to boycott. Till the next Craig as Bond film.:D
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    edited November 2006
    VW2006 wrote:
    On second thought maybe I will boycott the film...

    ...after I see it again in the theater

    ...after I re-read the novel (twice)

    ...after I but the DVD when that comes out (and subsequent special editions)

    ...and after I (maybe) buy the On-Set picture book.

    Then I'll be ready to boycott. Till the next Craig as Bond film.:D

    This seems to be pretty much the form my own personal 'boycott' has taken... :))
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  • MoniqueMonique USAPosts: 696MI6 Agent
    col007 wrote:
    i did'nt think bond was america or for that matter belong to them :s

    Bond belongs to all of us dear.
  • JennyFlexFanJennyFlexFan Posts: 1,497MI6 Agent
    markdown wrote:
    VW2006 wrote:
    That CNB site is funny. :s

    But Gustave is wrong! The invisible car was in one of the scenes. You just couldn't see it. :))
    yes i think i saw it pierce was inside getting a close up view of a real actor playing the part much better then he ever could.:)

    I believe you mean wink, oooh, I feel a rant coming on! ;)
  • JohmssJohmss Posts: 274MI6 Agent
    RUN, HIDE, SCREAM, THE END IS HERE!!!!!

    As a matter of Fact, back there in CnB, they are extremelly happy because the penguins (Happy Feet) is the No 1 in the box-office. I know there is some other post about that, but they've got this argument to congratulate because the Boycott did work.

    So, Brosnan in CR... it would really brake ALL records, like 396 kallilions of punds, or maybe 9999 googlemillionsofdolars?

    that was the boycott?, i was thinking back then in some sort of empty (literally empty) theatres....

    sorry, i don't get it. i can't get in my head that ONE penguin movie (i have no idea wherever is good or bad) which ended here and probably will have two or three sequel every one worse than the one before destroyed CR, the 21 in the series, with a 22 confirmed and an 23 on the way at least with Craig on it.

    And Please, Jason Bourne IS based in James Bond (beginning with the initials), and is Mat "Team America World Police" Damon.

    I don't get it, seriously 8-)
  • suman_babansuman_baban Posts: 1MI6 Agent
    My dear friend,let me give u a adviase.GO AND WATCH CASINO ROYALE.New bond can create his own look.He is just different 4m others.Older Bonds were seem to be very attractive aNd seductive(for ladies only!),but he is more likely a man.That's the thing i want 2 say.Bond is a human,not a superman.
  • s96024s96024 Posts: 1,519MI6 Agent
    You have to be open minded, thats the problem. You have to understand this is supposed to be bond before the other films, when he had not had as much experience and was still making mistakes. First time DC caught my eye was Layer Cake and I think there is no doubt the man is a great actor. I think he also brings this brilliant acting to CR. He is different, but different isn't always bad. The people who dislike him, I think are people who hate change, and this is a massive problem considering the character has out lived many of the actors. So Craig is brilliant, now the film, now unfortunately I have only seen it once and that was at the charity premiere which started at midnight and I had been standing outside for about 7hrs beforehand so I was a tad tired and maybe that was why it seemed to drag on a bit. I did think the plot was quite weak, the action scenes where great, I particurlarly liked the parkour scene at the beginning. The only think I missed was a Q and some gadgets, some nice believable ones whether now or in the future. I don't know how Q could be reintroduced without DL, John cleese just couldn't live upto expectations. If the new bonds have problems pleasing people a new Q will have a near impossible job. I would say go watch it, it was more than worth watching when I did, i'm sure it will be even better when I watch it again.
  • clintosclintos Posts: 5MI6 Agent
    It's as simple as this. Casino Royale is a 5 star movie and Daniel Criag puts in a 5 star performance. He's not the suave 007 agent yet, but thats the point of film.
  • spidermanspiderman Posts: 20MI6 Agent
    edited November 2006
    in fact, all these stupid people at CNB site and their supporters helped to advertise new Bond movie and I bet all of them attended premiere screening hahaha :D.

    Thank you {[]:D
  • highhopeshighhopes Posts: 1,358MI6 Agent
    clintos wrote:
    It's as simple as this. Casino Royale is a 5 star movie and Daniel Criag puts in a 5 star performance. He's not the suave 007 agent yet, but thats the point of film.

    I thought he was pretty suave, just not smarmy. He did a nice job on the Bollinger order and his first martini order.
  • Dr ShatterhandDr Shatterhand Posts: 31MI6 Agent
    when I walked out of Die Another Day, I sort of liked it, granted, I was in fifth grade, but I thought it had a redeeming element in Miranda Frost, before that element was killed by the anti-redeeming element known as Jinx that is. When I walked out of this movie, it made no lasting impact, and gave me one feeling. The feeling of... Eh.

    Dear JennyFlexFan:

    I am assuming that you are approxiamtely 14 or 15 years of age. Having been 9 when I saw OHMSS in 1969, I was disappointed with the new direction the film series had taken. Nevertheless, it would be years later when I really began to appreciate OHMSS. The same may be with you on CR. The film is artistically well done and Craig has created a Bond that I felt could never be shown on the screen. Yet, his acting has cemented my opinons that his Bond is going to be the best.

    Please keep an open mind on this film, it is much better than the juvenile garbage of the last two Brosnan films.
  • scottmu65scottmu65 Carlisle, Cumbria, UKPosts: 402MI6 Agent
    it says on the homepage of CNB "thankyou to all the supporters that made the boycott a success, yadda yadda" how on earth was te boycott a success, someone tell me?

    oh and Casino Royale ROCKS!
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  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,912Chief of Staff
    scottmu65 wrote:
    it says on the homepage of CNB "thankyou to all the supporters that made the boycott a success, yadda yadda" how on earth was te boycott a success, someone tell me?

    That's life on Planet CNB, which exists in an alternate reality. Still, you've gotta admire their moxie. With their model in mind, I'm out to boycott the Beatles for replacing the perfect drummer, Pete Best, with that troglodyte Ringo Starr. Who's with me? Join me at ringonotbeatle-dot-com and show your support!
    Vox clamantis in deserto
  • MyrddinMerlinoMyrddinMerlino Posts: 37MI6 Agent
    clintos wrote:
    It's as simple as this. Casino Royale is a 5 star movie and Daniel Criag puts in a 5 star performance. He's not the suave 007 agent yet, but thats the point of film.
    This is the point!!!
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    I think Eon should use "Number One Film in the World!"

    Has a ring to it :007)
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  • cdsdsscdsdss JakartaPosts: 144MI6 Agent
    Funniest line from CnB:

    "Our special thanks to everyone who made the boycott a success!!"

    Nice to see Baghdad Bob found some work.
  • Gustave_GravesGustave_Graves Posts: 18MI6 Agent
    edited November 2006
    I am actually a big fan of the books and I find it in good comparision with the novel. I personally loved the action, but I just despise the actor. There is just something about him that is not making me see him as "Bond". To me he looked awkard in the Omega ads compared to Brosnan. I really am not much of a CnB supporter but that was the only site I can agree on with my current thoughts. Who Knows? maybe Craig could prove me wrong, but for now I'll stick to my opinion and rewatch DAD for the 38th time. What I'm trying to point out here is that I really loved the film and thought it was excellent, I jsut didn't like the actor.
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