Craignotbond.com

cdsdsscdsdss JakartaPosts: 144MI6 Agent
Kinda fun to browse that site now. They spearheaded their charge against CR with a scathing review from...ah, some newspaper in India.

Guess we can expect EON to admit their mistake any minute and beg Pierce to come back...
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  • DAWUSSDAWUSS My homepagePosts: 517MI6 Agent
    :))


    I was wondering how that place was holding up
  • cdsdsscdsdss JakartaPosts: 144MI6 Agent
    DAWUSS wrote:
    :))


    I was wondering how that place was holding up

    Deep, deep denial.
  • highhopeshighhopes Posts: 1,358MI6 Agent
    cdsdss wrote:
    Kinda fun to browse that site now. They spearheaded their charge against CR with a scathing review from...ah, some newspaper in India.

    Guess we can expect EON to admit their mistake any minute and beg Pierce to come back...

    :))

    Or move on altogether and make penguin films ...
  • JohmssJohmss Posts: 274MI6 Agent
    I will confess something, but please... don't hur me for this.... i've read all the critics they put in which it says something like: "Craig is dull, read more" or "Casino Royale is bad, read more" (i wanted to use worse words, as they do but, come on!, i'm in AJB007, i must have some kind off class, style or else i'll get my license revoked) the point is this: they put something bad, but the reviews aren't (all) as bad as they seem. they ALL have something positive, so, they aren't really doing pretty much anything.

    The Penguins movie will be a hit, but lately all kids movies are, and CR numbers aren't as good as Titanic, LOTR, Spiderman or whatever is currently No 1 in box office in all time history, but it doesn't seem to be suffering a Boycott.

    i'm terrible sorry, and i woud like to see Brosnan one more time too, but... it won't happen. or at least not as Bond, he might get a good movie sometime soon.
  • Lyle Dark-008Lyle Dark-008 Posts: 64MI6 Agent
    cdsdss wrote:
    Kinda fun to browse that site now. They spearheaded their charge against CR with a scathing review from...ah, some newspaper in India.

    Guess we can expect EON to admit their mistake any minute and beg Pierce to come back...

    I'm sorry to dissapoint you, but I'm sure they won't. But I do agree that Pierce was waaaayyyy better than Craig.
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    edited November 2006
    The boycotters remind me of a crazed 90 year-old Japanese fellow---running around, alone, on a tiny island in the South Pacific, feverishly scanning the horizon with ancient binoculars---unaware that World War Two has come to an end :v
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  • PredatorPredator Posts: 790Chief of Staff
    cdsdss wrote:
    Kinda fun to browse that site now. They spearheaded their charge against CR with a scathing review from...ah, some newspaper in India.

    Guess we can expect EON to admit their mistake any minute and beg Pierce to come back...

    I'm sorry to dissapoint you, but I'm sure they won't. But I do agree that Pierce was waaaayyyy better than Craig.

    I suspect you've missed the irony in cdsdss' post.

    I did take a look at CnB briefly yesterday - we mods do have to do some research every now and then despite risking our sanity to do so. The site looked rather pitiful and forlorn.

    The counter is impressive, but a good half of those hits were probably the press ...
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    Where IS craignotbond.com? I wanted to swing by and laugh at them. Not very dignified, I know, but I couldn't help it. When I searched I found something on Youtube about CnB being dead. What is this, har reality finally hit them?
  • lavabubblelavabubble Posts: 229MI6 Agent
    I think the actual address is craigisnotbond.com
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    Sorry, I still can't find it.
  • lavabubblelavabubble Posts: 229MI6 Agent
    edited November 2006
    I would like to state that I have just found this link from google and I am just posting this to answer a question and assist another forum member. I am all for balanced opinion but not for witch-hunting.

    www.danielcraigisnotbond.com should do it :v
  • delliott101delliott101 Posts: 115MI6 Agent
    I have to admit that I do agree with the fact that Daniel Craig, well, doesn't look right for the role... I do puruse the craignotbond site regularly and agree with the folks behind the site in a lot of ways...

    But...

    Craig's portrayal of 007 surprised me in a good way and the series NEEDED a reboot. I watched Die Another Day the night after I went to see CR the first time and it was pitiful. I never cared for Brosnan as Bond... he always seemed like "filler" for me.
  • Agent WadeAgent Wade Ann ArborPosts: 321MI6 Agent
    I'm doing terrible with this boycott thing. My wife and I saw it twice already. My best friend's father (the human version of Sam Eagle) wants to see it and I'm losing the battle in my mind on saying "no" to see it again. I'm sorry CnB, I've failed.

    8-)
  • J-B-007J-B-007 Posts: 17MI6 Agent
    Guess we can expect EON to admit their mistake any minute and beg Pierce to come back...[/quote]

    ... wrong way of thinking... Craig is already a star!
  • HammerfistHammerfist In my own little worldPosts: 24MI6 Agent
    J-B-007 wrote:
    Guess we can expect EON to admit their mistake any minute and beg Pierce to come back...

    ... wrong way of thinking... Craig is already a star![/quote]

    He was being ironic/sarcastic :)

    And, yeah, I was just pleasantly surprised. I never hated Craig but I thought he'd be "ok". I think he was great! I feel that each of the Bonds so far has been perfect for their movies, different but bringing their own great qualities to the role perfectly. And IMO Craig continues this.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    CnB is just sad now. They think Craig was miscast. Fine. It's a free country, and that one opinion. But they are in denial about the facts.
    And the fasts are:

    -CR is a critical success. Metacritic.com has calculated an average of the reviews of the major film critics in the US. 19 action movies show a better average than CR. 326 has a lower average.

    - CR is a boxoffice hit. CR tops the ticket sales in 27 countries, including Russia and India where CR now is the best-selling foreign movie ever.
    In the US another film sold more tickets the first weekend, and they call the boycott a success. Sad.
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,948MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    - CR is a boxoffice hit. CR tops the ticket sales in 27 countries

    I believe it's 50 countries now; just to help your point!
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    Not that any help was needed, but thanks anyway!
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    When CR surpasses DAD's overall box office take, the rationalizing by the Ultra-Maroons over at 'that site' will be 'priceless'---and deserving of a MasterCard commercial...
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  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,906Chief of Staff
    Unfortunately, the site has now officially ceased to be funny. I went there to see how they'd spin CR's $200 million take, and I found this lengthy message spilled across their front page:

    This is a message from Kitn.

    ***IMPORANT ANNOUNCEMENT***

    This is too ALL you PRO-Craig People (although I question that you are even human), to you Liars, Back stabbers, Violent Pro Craig people who threaten, make up Rumors, distort the true Facts, make up False and Edited Interviews,
    Use Filthy Language, Give a 3 Year Old child death Threats,Send Filthy, threatening, sickening Emails, and wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face.


    This is also to The Wonderful People who supported (Support) us, The On -Going Boycott, The Sites and the Groups,The Fans of Both Pierce Brosnan and All The Bond Fans...it is also to All The reporters who took great interest in our cause and our site.

    You Pro Craig Boy's and Women (Although most of you are Gay men), fight dirty. You make up all kinds of Fake and False Videos and Interviews and web pages and stories, you call constantly with threats and filthy Language, Your Emails are full of sickening garbage and your so-called Facts are so far from the REAL truth you actually believe what you say.

    Unfortunately for you, There is a HUGE difference between Free Speech and Slander, Defamation of Character and threats. The Police have traced your calls, and are doing a great job with the investigation. Your False and edited Videos, stories, web sites, Pictures, and Lies are being handled Legally because you
    have not just viciously attacked me, But my family, friends, and also a 3 year old Child. Does that make you proud? At this site, we may poke fun...make jokes, But we have NEVER used your FILITHY Language, made up facts, sent
    you dirty foul emails, Threatened you, your friends or Families,edited videos and interviews in an attempt to make you look like the fools you really are, nor did we Falsify the petition (Of which we are VERY proud!), and we certainly never posted your True names with your phone numbers and mailing addresses's all over the Internet. Unlike you, we have Morals, we speak and write the truth. We didn't have to lie in order for our Boycott and our cause to be successful. We stuck to the facts and will continue to do so. In the end, none of your
    vicious, filthy,made up lies and stories couldn't help save you. THE DANCING PENGUINS BEAT YOUR SO CALLED WONDERFUL BOND!


    This Boycott wasn't just about returning Pierce to the role of Bond, it was about standing up for what you believe in, trying to make a difference and caring about what the fans wanted. Did you care at all about what Pierce was promised? How after he saved the bond Franchise they rudely fired him and lied to him and the fans for over a year? Did You care that Pierce has always given his best to the Fans, so in turn we felt we would do the same?

    It was YOUR Daniel Craig who said he didn't give a Damn about the fans (His words)...not to mention Miss Greens foul remarks. Pierce is a good family man, with wonderful Values, he fights for many great causes he deeply believes in, he has Talent, wit, charm, Charisma, talent and a character that Daniel Craig will Never come close to having. Considering the way he was treated and lied to, he is TOO GOOD FOR BOND. B. Broccoli and Mr. Wilson, you should be ashamed of how you treated Pierce, not to mention the fans. And to be SO disrespectful to your Father and his wishes, it only shows what kind of people you truly are. All your Money, lies and hate campaigns really didn't save you did it? You Lost so many Bond Fans you will never get back.

    And to you Mr. Craig, how did it feel to Lie directly to Pierce's face? Did it make you feel good to know that a good portion of your support comes from Gay men? This site is not *homophobic* as some of you have claimed. But it does NOT support the Gay life style or think it is the right life style. I am tired of hearing
    your comebacks of * That site is just all homophobic*! YOU chose to live that lifestyle...so you deal with the consequences. Stop using it as an excuse. To Pierce, we have always and will always continue to support you, and the fans will never forget how you were treated. In MY eyes, and thousands of others,
    you will ALWAYS be the BEST JAMES BOND. You will succeed in anything in life you choose to do, and we appreciate you always giving 100% to the fans. Even if Miss Vege gets down on her hands and knees and begs you to return as Bond, I hope you tell her what she can do with *her* Bond. Never doubt how many fans and people support you...you really have no idea. Thank you for being the great Human being that you are.


    To the Fans who helped and supported us, we appreciate ALL the emails and the support....although we couldn't reply to all of them, we read each and everyone, and it is people like you that make the difference.

    This site is made up of over 50 people, their hard work, dedication and constant support achieved the impossible. *I* am a very small part of this site, although it was *my* Idea for the Boycott, This site as I said was created by more then 50 some people, yet you targeted only *me*.I don't fear you, you sicken me. And nothing you have lied about, threatened, or made up will ever make me or what I believe in go away. However, when you took it upon yourself's to threaten the life of an innocent 3 year old CHILD, that's where I draw the line. The Police will deal with you on that because there has been a trace on my phone for a long long time. Not to mention all your IP addresses', and please do NOT ever think that we are foolish enough not to have saved EVERY SINGLE FILTHY FOUL email you sent. Now it's up to the attorney's and the Police in which I have GREAT confidence.

    To My friends, REAL FRIENDS, that stuck By me, words could never thank you enough. It took great courage and strength, but you were always there to help and support me and this site.

    And to the Dedicated, talented, wonderful people who work on this site, you are an inspiration to all of us.

    The one thing you Pro Craig people could never get through your heads, was what integrity and truth really means.In reality, *that* is what this whole boycott was really about.

    Unlike your D. Craig, P. Brosnan has integrity and morals, as do Piece's fans. What goes around comes around, and yours definitely will.

    *I* take FULL responsibility for every word I made in this statement and demanded that it be put on the site. And Don't bother emailing me, calling or threatening, because you will not be responded too. Not by me anyway.. Pierce, go on with your life and your wonderful career, you deserve better and you are TOO good for Bond. You ended up having the last laugh just as we
    predicted.


    Friends and Fans...Keep boycotting the movie, support Pierce and this site and keep fighting the good CLEAN true fight, not the way the Pro Craig People fight. For all you are and for all you have done, thank you so very much. To the rest of you, in the end, it is your lies, filth, slander, threats and made up stories that
    will bring you down.


    KITN

    Here's why I'm not laughing--if anyone was or is making death threats against anyone on that site, and especially to their children or ANY family members for that matter, it's sick. I hope the police really do crack down on anyone who behaves that way. It's just a movie, for Pete's sake!

    With that in mind, I think "KITN" displays some pretty unbalanced tendencies herself. To say that "we" Pro-Craig people somehow don't know the "truth" and that a "boycott" is something entirely different from a refusal by massive numbers of people to see the movie is symptomatic of deep, deep denial. To further say that the site is not homophobic after posting images of Craig IN A MOVIE ROLE kissing another man as evidence of his lack of suitability for the role (and later screaming that Mads Mikkelsen's possibly gay Le Chiffre IS homophobic) is hypocritcal--ditto the numerous lies, slanders, half-truths, and personal insults that have been slung at anyone involved with CR. Even this message, which demands civility from other people, is filled with vitriol directed toward Daniel Craig and Barbara Broccoli and dimisses people who like Craig as sub-human. And, clearly, this is a person who can see no other Bond than Pierce Brosnan.

    The whole thing is just sad now.
    Vox clamantis in deserto
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    edited November 2006
    I don't believe a word the crazy ***** says. This is just a way to deflect attention.

    When the arrests are made---and actual people are named and indicted 8-) (as if) ---I'll afford this bullcrap a modicum of serious consideration. Until then, it's no different than the Craig/Monkey pictures...

    'Sad' is right.
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    "I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
    "Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,906Chief of Staff
    I don't believe a word the crazy ***** says. This is just a way to deflect attention.

    I don't necessarily believe her, but I think when you're dealing with this level of hysteria it ceases to be funny.
    Vox clamantis in deserto
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    Hardyboy wrote:
    I don't necessarily believe her, but I think when you're dealing with this level of hysteria it ceases to be funny.

    You're correct, of course...but these guys haven't been funny, IMRO, since very early on in the Craig/Monkey picture era.

    I hope she gets those stigmata wounds looked after.
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    "Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
  • lavabubblelavabubble Posts: 229MI6 Agent
    Hardyboy wrote:
    The one thing you Pro Craig people could never get through your heads, was what integrity and truth really means.In reality, *that* is what this whole boycott was really about.

    Unlike your D. Craig, P. Brosnan has integrity and morals, as do Piece's fans. What goes around comes around, and yours definitely will.


    .....keep fighting the good CLEAN true fight, not the way the Pro Craig People fight. KITN

    Apologies but WTF??? In my experience of most of the people that care about the DC casting issue, the main thing is that we are all Pro-Bond rather than Pro-Craig. People want the best for the franchise/reflection of Fleming's books/best box office gross etc.

    I would love to meet this person and invite them to show me where the DanielCraig-IS-bond.com website is which may clear up just who the fanatics are in this whole debate. Some people dislike DC, others love him and declare him the best Bond ever, its all about personal choice.

    What I find ridiculous is that someone has wasted the time and trouble to set up a site to tell people to boycott this film and essentially persecute DC from afar and what for?? The 50 people who are associated with the site and maybe a couple of thousand more in agreement with this were nothing more than the few empty seats that were next to most of us who have been to see it.

    Some were sceptical and others loved the DC decision. The adult thing to do is go and see it and make your own mind or keep your hand in your pocket and don't bother - is that so hard to understand for these people 8-)????

    Things like this really rile me, I wonder what sort of people are loose in the world and whether or not you should have to have an internet licence :))
  • highhopeshighhopes Posts: 1,358MI6 Agent
    edited November 2006
    Hardyboy wrote:
    Here's why I'm not laughing--if anyone was or is making death threats against anyone on that site, and especially to their children or ANY family members for that matter, it's sick. I hope the police really do crack down on anyone who behaves that way. It's just a movie, for Pete's sake!

    With that in mind, I think "KITN" displays some pretty unbalanced tendencies herself. To say that "we" Pro-Craig people somehow don't know the "truth" and that a "boycott" is something entirely different from a refusal by massive numbers of people to see the movie is symptomatic of deep, deep denial. To further say that the site is not homophobic after posting images of Craig IN A MOVIE ROLE kissing another man as evidence of his lack of suitability for the role (and later screaming that Mads Mikkelsen's possibly gay Le Chiffre IS homophobic) is hypocritcal--ditto the numerous lies, slanders, half-truths, and personal insults that have been slung at anyone involved with CR. Even this message, which demands civility from other people, is filled with vitriol directed toward Daniel Craig and Barbara Broccoli and dimisses people who like Craig as sub-human. And, clearly, this is a person who can see no other Bond than Pierce Brosnan.

    The whole thing is just sad now.
    I don't believe a word the crazy ***** says. This is just a way to deflect attention.

    When the arrests are made---and actual people are named and indicted 8-) (as if) ---I'll afford this bullcrap a modicum of serious consideration. Until then, it's no different than the Craig/Monkey pictures...

    'Sad' is right.

    I agree with both of you, although I would change 'sad' to 'scary.' Extremely scary. If anyone from CnB knows KITN's identity, they really ought to try contacting her or the authorities. Even if what she says is true about threats (and frankly it sounds fishy to me) she's gone off the deep end, and someone needs to assess whether she is dangerous, not just to others, but to herself. You know someone has lost their grasp on reality when the casting of a movie becomes a question of good vs evil. The hatred towards Craig, his supporters, homosexuals, the producers etc ... This is exactly the kind of psychotic rage that leads to things like Columbine. Remember: those kids really were bullied. And I'm not just exaggerating for effect. KITN is out of control.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    Somebody has lost touch with reallity. IF someone really has threatned her and her family, it is horrible and the police should handle the situation. To have your child threatened can make anyone post letters like that. Remember it's just a movie, people! But there are indications that some in the CnB camp aren't best friends with reallity either. I'm not saying insane or anything. But when they print a negative CR review from an indian newspaper but fail to mention that CR is now the best-selling foreign movie in India ever, they are not giving their readers a correct picture of the situation.
  • highhopeshighhopes Posts: 1,358MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Somebody has lost touch with reallity. IF someone really has threatned her and her family, it is horrible and the police should handle the situation. To have your child threatened can make anyone post letters like that. Remember it's just a movie, people! But there are indications that some in the CnB camp aren't best friends with reallity either. I'm not saying insane or anything. But when they print a negative CR review from an indian newspaper but fail to mention that CR is now the best-selling foreign movie in India ever, they are not giving their readers a correct picture of the situation.

    If she'd simply written "I've reported you *******s who threatened my kids to the police," that's one thing (although wouldn't it make more sense to do that in a reply e-mail rather than a public letter on a Website? or better yet not say anything at all while the cops do their job?). But she went waaaaay beyond that. It's the tone as well as the words. And the tone is "crazy." How would anyone know she has kids? What do you know about me? Do I have kids? How many? Who are my friends? Her claims don't pass the smell test to me, but who knows? I guess it's possible,
    But still, her diatribe seemed way out to me.
  • Thomas CrownThomas Crown Posts: 119MI6 Agent
    As someone who grew up with Pierce Brosnan as 007, and keeps a fondness for his era as Bond, this whole site is just revolting. Sure, I was skeptical when Craig was signed, and from what I knew the way in which Brosnan was dismissed sounded very unfair. But I got over it. My life went on. My life is worth a lot more than caring about a fake character on a movie screen. And you know what? I loved Craig as Bond, and from what I understand Brosnan has no qualms with him either! I put Casino Royale not just as my favorite Bond film, but as my favorite movie because I went in with an open mind, realized it's only a movie and found myself loving the expierence. As I said in my review of the film, in no way is praising Craig or CR an indictment of Brosnan or his films. Surely, it was Brosnan's emphasis on this kind of Bond that helped make this kind of film feesible. It's warm reception from both critics and fans is not something the series as seen since GoldenEye, and not in this high degree since the mid-1960's. That's something we as fans should be very happy about, rather than wasting our time with all this bickering.

    James Bond is a hobby folks, not an passion. Go fall in love, enjoy your career, provide for your family, enjoy time with your friends, pray to God, don't waste your time making death threats about movies. There are so many more things that make life worth living. It's pathetic, simply pathetic in my view, to base all your emotions around a movie, with actors that don't know you, will probably never know you, and if your this insane, wouldn't want to know you. It's just absurd to think any of this bickering really goes anywhere but to dissapointments.

    These Bond fans give a bad name for us all, even us "Pro-Craigers," though I refuse to base my hobby around some political party-esque designation so that will be the first and last time I use that.
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    edited November 2006
    I simply don't believe that people who supported Craig for the role of Bond actually made threatening phone calls, etc., to this person. As for emails, who knows? Pea-brains are everywhere, and thus anything is possible...but thank heaven the police "are doing a great job with the investigation." :))

    IMRO, what we've seen here from CnB is typically low-rent theatrics---and the pungent, unmistakable bouquet of merde de taureau...
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  • bluemanblueman PDXPosts: 1,667MI6 Agent
    edited November 2006
    Wow.

    Just, wow. :s

    And can I just add: wow. ?:)
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