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clb435
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Apologies if these seem stupid but I have not read the book, so I don't know if that makes a difference
Can anyone tell me why Vespa locked the cage - was this just a wierd guilt self punishment thing.
Also, M later tells bond that vespa made a deal with the people behind Le Chifre saying that she'll hand over the money if they let Bond live. But didn't they need to let Bond live anyway because he held the password? I'm confused!
Can anyone tell me why Vespa locked the cage - was this just a wierd guilt self punishment thing.
Also, M later tells bond that vespa made a deal with the people behind Le Chifre saying that she'll hand over the money if they let Bond live. But didn't they need to let Bond live anyway because he held the password? I'm confused!
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It was probably to let Bond Live, after they had the password; well they wouldn't really want an agent on their tail afterwards and would've preferred to tie up in loose ends is my guess
The "cage" sequence does not appear in the novel; the entire climax in the collapsing building is the creation of the filmmakers. In the novel, Vesper does commit suicide, but it's by poisoning herself. The explanation in the book pretty well applies to the film--Vesper was a double agent; she was in love with Bond; and she knew that eventually she would be killed and not allowed to live with Bond anyway.
As for the money and the password in the film--hmmm, good question. When it comes down to it, the password is pretty easy to crack--it's sort of like using "666," "password," or your birthday--and I'm not even sure why they'd need to sweat Bond to get it from him!
That's how I saw it as well.
When Bond tells Vesper, she looks sick to her stomach, as if she's thinking "I should have known ..." I thought that was nicely played by Eva.
On second thought, I think you're probably right. I do think we haven't learned everything there is to know about the double-cross in CR and will learn more in the sequel.
I thought Vespa was a scooter
1) How did Bond know which Video Archive to review to match Demetrius with the cell phone number? That is what he did, right? What was the clue that let him know the call was made in front of that particular camera?
2) What was Le Chiffre doing when they dumped Vesper in front of Bond's speeding Aston. They ran the incredibly high risk of killing both of them, thus loosing their chance of learning the account # and password.
3) Why did the Ugandans turn on Bond in the hotel? And if the Ugandans had killed Le Chiffre, why should anyone care? After he had lost everyone's money he was bound to die anyway. What was the advantage of letting him live with the chance of winning the money back?
Because they noticed Bond had a listening device in his ear (as he was canoodling with Vesper). they didn't know or care who he was, but it implied that he was doing surveilance / keeping a watch, since they perceived it could incriminate them somehow, they attacked him
Thanks! I missed that visual cue. It makes a great deal more sense to me now.
Hmm, since we seem to be pointing out the film's flaws, here's one that I caught (though it didn't hurt my enjoyment of the film): how the heck did Bond get into the terminal of the Miami airport? Post-9/11 you have to present a boarding pass and photo ID to enter any American terminal. And when everyone was going through the metal detectors I wondered why no one had taken off their shoes. I've been on too many flights lately. . .
He used the date and time on the cellphone and matched it to the archive dates and time. As for the camera, he had to start somewhere, I suppose, and it makes sense to start with the camera in front of the building. It's kind of like movies that are set in New York or San Francisco or any other big city. You'll never see so many open parking spaces in your life.
I'm of two minds here, but I think they both work: He expected Bond to stop the car, allowing LeChiffre's men to apprehend him; I don't think he could have necessarily foreseen that Bond would run her over (Bond's a little reckless, driving too fast). Besides, LeChiffre is in a panic -- his life depends on getting that money fast -- so the risk may have been worth it. Maybe he didn't care about Vesper dying. Vesper is a double and he already knew the account number, which basically made her expendable. He planned on torturing the password out of Bond. When Vesper was not run over, he threatened or pretended to torture her to convince Bond to give up the password.
I suppose my question is what clued him into the fact that the phonecall was made in front of a camera?
Boy, am I ever glad you some of the guys on AJB are aren't writing the scripts to these things. The TV promos would sound something like this:
"Audiences will thrill as Bond, on the trail of a terrorist, goes to the ticket counter of a major American airport, waits in line 20 minutes to buy an airline ticket with his MI6 visa card in order to acquire the necessary boarding pass, then stands in line for 30 minutes at the security checkpoint before taking off his shoes and ..."
I don't think he was looking for someone making a phone call. He was just checking to see if Demetrius was indeed at the hotel. Besides, hadn't he gone over Demetrius' file, which included a photo? I may be wrong. I'd have to watch it again but it didn't raise a red flag for me.
Easy answer, Hardy. They all had verrucae's.
The only one to be getting a thorough going over was Richard Branson. Poor guy...they looked as if they were just about to pull out the rubber gloves!
I didn't realize the shoes not being taken off. But security must be doing their jobs. They did take a big, threating looking, long-haired blond guy aside for a futher security evaluation
after Bond wins the Poker game and celebrates by having a beverage with Vesper, she gets a message from Mathis then leaves
a moment too late, Bond snaps his fingers and says "Mathis!" and runs after her
whats triggered his suspicion?
I thought it simply occurred to him how it was that he lost the first time -- Mathis told LeChiffre Bond had figured out his "tell." Hearing the name triggered the realization. And I think Mathis basically disappeared after the losing hand, although I can't be sure.
That's right, when he stooped down to pretend to tie his shoe laces he had a good look at the few cameras there and their positions - just before that chap threw the Landrover keys at him.
Id guess the Secret Service would have a better standard of GPS than is commercially available, as it was developed as a military technology after all
so maybe he knew exactly where in that parking lot the call was made from, and which camera would capture that position, maybe that was one of the things he was establishing in the parking lot before going into the security room
but if he got those coords from the celphone then they might not be quite so precise?
So when they were in Venice, was that LeChiffre in the hat and 1 eyed glasses? Or was it a character from earlier in the film?
Me confused...
Neither. The novel mentions that Vesper is being followed by a man with a black patch, who she recognizes as a SMERSH agent. Whoever the one-eyed man is, he works for the shadowy opposition.
LMAO.....in some of our airports....going through security would eat up all the film time.
I can see Bond now on one of those sharp Vespas...
POWER. The 4-stroke 4-valve 200cc engine is liquid-cooled and remarkably powerful. The L.E.AD.E.R. (Low Emissions ADvanced Engine Range) engine has the power to pull away from almost any kind of traffic you encounter. The Granturismo's exceptionally low levels of air and noise pollution well exceed the standards being considered in Europe and America many years from now.
STYLE. With its chrome mirrors and classic Vespa lines, the Granturismo is a thoroughly modern scooter true to its heritage. On the Granturismo you find the kinds of touches that have made Vespa world-famous: pressed steel monocoque chassis, 5-spoke die-cast alloy wheels, chrome retractable passenger footrests, and a classic floorboard design. And the Granturismo shines in the evening: the vintage-style dashboard lights up blue for excellent night-time visibility, and the halogen headlamp provides plenty of illumination.
1 question though. If Vesper really needed Bond to win the money, why the hell didn't she stake him the reserve £5m??? She had no idea that Felix would just hand over his chips!!
We don't know yet if Mathis was good or bad. But Vesper did not want Bond to win, and after he lost the first time, didn't want him back in the game. Vesper was never going to stake Bond the 5 million. She was "turned" by Bond's enemies to ensure her cooperation on that point. The reason for Vesper's "abduction" was to force Bond to give back the winnings, which LeChiffre needed to save his own skin.
I think largely the scene was pointless. Bond had seen a photo of Demetrius, and he knew that he was at the Club from the GPS coordinates. All Bond had to do was 'spot' him in the club. Using the camera was just a way to link Demetrius to the Aston Martin, so Bond could ask which room the Aston Martin belonged to. For the sake of clarity, and moving the story along, the whole chain of information could have been handled in a much better way.