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  • Dell DeatonDell Deaton Posts: 159MI6 Agent
    edited January 2007
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    Sam is now banned from viewing these threads. Besides she acknowledges the gap between Omega and Roley is vast and not really comparable (yet). Smart girl (on this occasion at least).

    I have no idea of the accuracy as of yet, I havn't really worn it for any long period of time. The PO is the first step in narrowing the quality and function of the two brands though, and I'm very happy with it.
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  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    Is the difference really that large? I love my Seamaster. Have never owned a Rolex yet, but can it really be that much better?
  • The Bond ExperienceThe Bond Experience Newtown, PAPosts: 5,490Quartermasters
    I have both and I will tell you my Omegas keep MUCH better time than my Rolex watches...much!
  • Dell DeatonDell Deaton Posts: 159MI6 Agent
    edited January 2007
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    edited December 2006
    The Mantis wrote:
    I have both and I will tell you my Omegas keep MUCH better time than my Rolex watches...much!

    Guys, please don't judge mechanical watches too much on accuracy.

    There are several aspects, which are influencing accuracy.

    E.G. I won't be too happy, if a watch would be within a second when it is new as I know, that this will change over the years. The gears run smoother, the oils change their viscosity etc., that pretty certainly won't last very long.

    If you absolutely depend on second-accurate watch, buy a Swatch Quartz, or be prepared to set your mechanical watch daily.

    If the error of a mechanical watch is constantly, I am able to mute it within a second, but that will be over, if the watch once cam to a stop. Accuracy on high-quality mechanical watches is not a stable thing and the watch companies are experienced enough to deliver their watches to run a bit faster as the oils get more sticky and the watch will run slightly slower than at the beginning.

    There are more aspects, which influence the long-run accuracy, but hey, that's not a watchmakers-class here.
    I just wanted to prevent everyone from "easy" answers.

    Greetings

    Markus
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    Simple adage... you get what you pay for. Rolex have earned their reputation through selling excellent watches, so are you paying for a name? You betcha, one that has been earned. Are they overpriced? Actually, no. The mark up on Rolexes is far lower than that of Omega, and AD's make less of a % from selling Rolex.
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  • Dell DeatonDell Deaton Posts: 159MI6 Agent
    edited January 2007
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  • Dave DevenneyDave Devenney Posts: 3MI6 Agent
    Hi Dell, just picked up my Omega PO 5007 at the weekend. Had to stretch the plastic a little to buy it but delighted with my purchase. I think you are dead right; now that the Bond franchise has been recovered the Daniel Craig Bond marks a significant jumping off point so what a great collectible to mark the occasion with. I didn't buy it to keep it 'mint' in the box though - a watch this good has to be worn.
  • Dell DeatonDell Deaton Posts: 159MI6 Agent
    edited January 2007
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  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    Of course, Dell. You wear the one regular version and you store the LE 007 PO in pristine condition. :D
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    Is the difference really that large? I love my Seamaster. Have never owned a Rolex yet, but can it really be that much better?

    Sure can NS, the same way that Patek is superior to Roleys, Omegas superior to Tags etc. It's a very personal thing a watch. That's why we all throw our teddys about so often ;).
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  • Dell DeatonDell Deaton Posts: 159MI6 Agent
    edited January 2007
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    I'm talking stuffed kids bears here Dell. You know like throwing your dummy (or pacifier) out of your pram in a big strop (mood).
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  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    Is the difference really that large? I love my Seamaster. Have never owned a Rolex yet, but can it really be that much better?

    Sure can NS, the same way that Patek is superior to Roleys, Omegas superior to Tags etc. It's a very personal thing a watch. That's why we all throw our teddys about so often ;).

    I guess so, good point. Hey, speaking of really good watches, does anyone else love the JLC Reverso?
  • Dell DeatonDell Deaton Posts: 159MI6 Agent
    edited January 2007
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  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    I didn't know Brosnan wore that in that film. I think Christian Bale wore it as Bruce Wayne as well. I saw a picture of the newest tourbillion one, I believe it was something along the lines of $350,000, and it was just gorgeous. If I was ever so rich that I could buy a tourbillion watch, that would be the one I'd buy.
  • Dell DeatonDell Deaton Posts: 159MI6 Agent
    edited January 2007
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  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    Hey guys, went to the nearest Tourneau and tried on the PO LE, and it is fabulous. I'd personally rather have the regular non 007 version, but it truly was gorgeous. The rubber strap was incredibly comfotable. I need to secure the funds for one. I just need to.
  • Dell DeatonDell Deaton Posts: 159MI6 Agent
    edited January 2007
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  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    It is indeed huge, but not too big so that I couldn't wear it.
  • Dell DeatonDell Deaton Posts: 159MI6 Agent
    edited January 2007
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  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    It does sound similar to FRWL... :D
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent

    Although the mechanisms aren't assigned to any particular watch when tested, it's interesting to me when I note the late-June testing date on my certificate. Sort of ironic that it was headed for about as official a "Casino Royale" Planet Ocean as you could get - on the heals of Omega's announcement of the James Bond's return w/ the blue / blue Seamaster!

    Hello Dell,

    the COSC only accepts bare movements for testing, this means, that the movements are sent to there and tested long before they get into bodies.
    Therefore, I assume, that Omega just regularly sents movements there to be tested and certified and well after this choose, where they are put in.
    By the way, the huge time period between the COSC testing and the sales date of the final watch, the companies chose to give usually an undated short version of the COSC certificate with their watch as many customers have complaints to own a 6-month old or more watch.

    Did they charge you extra for the full chronometer certificate?

    Greetings

    Markus
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Dell DeatonDell Deaton Posts: 159MI6 Agent
    edited January 2007
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    a very easy reply:
    The COSC gives the certification for the date, which is on the certificate, nothing more.

    If you choose a quick bath in your tub with your brand new PO on the wrist - crown open - the mechanism will be quickly out of the COSC tolerances.

    Greetings

    Markus
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Dell DeatonDell Deaton Posts: 159MI6 Agent
    edited January 2007
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    edited December 2006
    it is not automatically invalidated, but indeed, adding a movement to a body MAY invalidate the well-recorded COSC data , if something goes wrong.

    Your question is very difficult to reply in general and honestly noone feels a responsability for keeping the COSC for a certain time.

    By the way, we have the same "problem" on waterresistance. When it comes to a fight, the watch company will regards itself only for being responsible for this as long as the watch is in their posession.

    I personally found it very dangerous, if watch companies are indicating watches being waterresistant to a certain depth by engraving the bottom or writing this down on the dial. In a possible trial, a judge may interprete this to be generally certified, without time limit.

    What has Sam to say about all this?

    Greetings

    Markus
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    Bondtoys wrote:
    What has Sam to say about all this?

    Plenty probably, all highly opinionated techno babble delivered with the arrogance of someone who thinks they are constantly right. Therefore, I'm not going to tell her ;)
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  • Dell DeatonDell Deaton Posts: 159MI6 Agent
    edited January 2007
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