Close behind and, for me, the most overrated Bond girl, Ursula Andress.
This really surprises me. I consider Honey to be among the very most beautiful Bond girls of all time. When she came out of the water.. and especially when she wore the dress, I thought she was absolutely gorgeous.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Halle Barry was not appealing because she really isn't all that sexy. Pretty yes. But not sexy.
Famke was beyond sexy, contrary to some members here who think otherwise.
Close behind and, for me, the most overrated Bond girl, Ursula Andress.
This really surprises me. I consider Honey to be among the very most beautiful Bond girls of all time. When she came out of the water.. and especially when she wore the dress, I thought she was absolutely gorgeous.
She never really does anything for me. She just always seemed to have this blank stare, bordering on a scowl, on her face that I just find rather off-putting in terms of attractiveness. Yes, her body is pretty, but overall nothing exceptional. Then again in terms of personal preference I generally prefer brunettes over blondes.
Then again in terms of personal preference I generally prefer brunettes over blondes.
Me too, however I am still heartbroken that you don't like Ursula.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Little Nellie gets my vote. Bond has to sit on her to get her to do anything, she shoots flames out her a**, she's got a BIIIGG nose, she's way too loud and definitely stand offish. If anyone gets close, she just shoots them down. Kind of like my prom date.-{
Little Nellie gets my vote. Bond has to sit on her to get her to do anything, she shoots flames out her a**, she's got a BIIIGG nose, she's way too loud and definitely stand offish. If anyone gets close, she just shoots them down. Kind of like my prom date.-{
)To funny, ok first off I think we are thinking in todays idea of what a beautiful woman should be. Where in Flemings day it was more of the woman next door. So on those lines the most non-appealing would be Ms. Havolock FYEO.
Bond: You don't think I enjoyed what we did this evening, do you? What I did tonight was for King and country! You don't think it gave me any pleasure, do you?
Fiona: But of course, I forgot your ego, Mr. Bond. James Bond, who only has to make love to a woman and she starts to hear heavenly choirs singing.
Little Nellie gets my vote. Bond has to sit on her to get her to do anything, she shoots flames out her a**, she's got a BIIIGG nose, she's way too loud and definitely stand offish. If anyone gets close, she just shoots them down. Kind of like my prom date.-{
)To funny, ok first off I think we are thinking in todays idea of what a beautiful woman should be. Where in Flemings day it was more of the woman next door. So on those lines the most non-appealing would be Ms. Havolock FYEO.
Really, Cynjin Smyth, this whole thread is quite
insulting and as someone else pointed out, quite
ungallant. Each of the Bond women is appealing in her own way. I don't think any could be called ugly. Just as Bond himself and tha ctors who played him have their strong and weak points, so do the women. To say that any of them is unappealing, ugly,or unfit for her role
would be to ignore the qualities each possesses.
Just like Bond, we should appreciate them all.
I would much rather list my favorites. Daniela Bianchi as Tatiana, Claudine Auger as Domino,
Lucianna Paluzi as Fiona, Sophie Marceau as Elektra. These are my favorites.
Little Nellie gets my vote. Bond has to sit on her to get her to do anything, she shoots flames out her a**, she's got a BIIIGG nose, she's way too loud and definitely stand offish. If anyone gets close, she just shoots them down. Kind of like my prom date.-{
)To funny, ok first off I think we are thinking in todays idea of what a beautiful woman should be. Where in Flemings day it was more of the woman next door. So on those lines the most non-appealing would be Ms. Havolock FYEO.
NO please don't hurt my feelings like that, to me the best looking Bond girl is Melina Havelock, i still think she's beautiful, and if she knocks on my door my wife knows it's time for me to go, Melina is calling.
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Ever since I learned that Angelina Jolie was destined to play Vesper Lynd, I just cannot get excited about Eva Green (sorry Eva)
I always had a thing for Jill St. John in "Diamond are Forever." I thought Halle Berry was quite visually stunning as Jinx, though her character bothered me.
I think my two least favorite Bonds girls are Tanya Roberts and Grace Jones.
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I'll grant the ungallant nature of this thread, and agree that I'd rather name my favorites, but I feel I must protest the unfair treatment of Jinx, especially when there is one Bond Girl so unfairly ignored by so many on this thread-
HELGA BRANDT!
I mean, come on, May Day aside, she's positively masculine- looks like a tranny in a Yves St. Laurent flight suit!
I think I may have even seen her on the cover for a German coprophilia porno movie- absolutely horrifying. "The things I do for England." Indeed!
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I think there can only be one truly UN-appealling Bond girl and that would be Irma Bundt... with Mayday a close second...maybe the unnamed machine gun totin' old bag from the guard station in Goldfinger.
For the life of me I can't see the bashing of Halle Berry and Eva Green. To each his own but I thought they were two of the best Bond girls ever. I am not a big fan of Die Another Day (first half OK then tey lost me with the invisible car and ice castle)...but I remember critics loving Halle so much in that movie that there was talk of a spin off movie with Jinxx as the primary character. Halle rocked.
Acting wise it has to be Tanya Roberts & Denise Richards hands down. Overall, I think almost all of the Bond girls were very good looking and appealing (well, maybe not May Day)!
For me non-appealing Bond girl means two things, she is unattractive (IMO) and her character has to be annoying.
We have had unattractive actresses whose characters were interesting, Grace Jones as May Day and Lotte Lenya as Rosa Klebb come to mind.
We have also attractive actresses whose character was annoying, Talisa Soto as Lupe and Tanya Roberts as Tracey come to mind.
To be special, non-appealing, you need to lack suitable looks and be annoying. Based on that definition my nominees are.
Karon Doer as Helga Brandt - seriously lacking in the looks department, a character that lacks energy and is not the least bit threatening. Pales greatly in comparison to Lucianna Paluzzi as Fiona Volpe.
Gloria Hendry as Rosie Carver - not very attractive and her character was a true idiot. Not for one second did I believe she was an agent. She was the worst thing about LALD
Eva Green as Vesper - This one hurts, because Vesper is my favorite Fleming female character. But, Eva Green completly misses the character in both looks and emotion. The fictional Vesper had soft good looks with apprpriate curves "She had black hair, blue eyes and splendid, er, protuberances" - Ian Fleming. Eva Green's looks are hard and whereas the fictional Vesper in the book starts out the relationship somewhat cautious and withdrawn, Eva Green's Vesper starts out as strong willed and bossy. In the book Bonds orders Vesper's dinner and selects the appropriate drinks, Eva Green's Vesper lectures Bond on his role and selects his clothes. Eva Green and the screenwriters completly miss the mark on Vesper.
I think I got carried away, but that is how much Eva Green's Vesper annoys me.
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Yea you could say that. I know you like her and I also know she reminds you of someone from your past which is pretty neat. I have nothing against her personally, I just had a vision of Vesper and she wasn't it. I have to tell you I love Fleming's CR and one of the reasons was I really liked the female character. I was always hoping they would make CR so I could see Vesper on screen, I just wasn't expecting the Vesper I got.
For me non-appealing Bond girl means two things, she is unattractive (IMO) and her character has to be annoying.
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Eva Green as Vesper - This one hurts, because Vesper is my favorite Fleming female character. But, Eva Green completly misses the character in both looks and emotion. The fictional Vesper had soft good looks with apprpriate curves "She had black hair, blue eyes and splendid, er, protuberances" - Ian Fleming. Eva Green's looks are hard and whereas the fictional Vesper in the book starts out the relationship somewhat cautious and withdrawn, Eva Green's Vesper starts out as strong willed and bossy. In the book Bonds orders Vesper's dinner and selects the appropriate drinks, Eva Green's Vesper lectures Bond on his role and selects his clothes. Eva Green and the screenwriters completly miss the mark on Vesper.
I think I got carried away, but that is how much Eva Green's Vesper annoys me.
I absolutely, completely, totally agree with your Vesper analysis. I truly disliked Eva Green as Vesper and was immensely annoyed by how the character was written in the movie and how she played the character. That came up in discussions even after I first saw the movie.
I think she's easily my least favourite Bond girl.. especially because, like you Barry, I had really high expectations, as Vesper was by far the best Bond girl in the books IMO. I just can't stand Green, sorry. I hated even the makeup, the clothes.. just no. Well, given Pam Bouvier is my favourite Bond girl in the movies, I guess one can see why I dislike Green so much ) ) Polar opposites. I ALMOST find Pam Bouvier closer to Vesper than the Vesper Green portrayed
That said, of course merely a matter of taste. She just isn't my cup of tea as Vesper.. I just didn't see Vesper on screen.
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One could say that Eva Green is at a disadvantage in this discussion because she has to compete with an Ian Fleming charecter, the likes of Pam Bouvier and May Day do not. Therefore expectations for Ms. Green are considerably higher than for the majority of her competetion.
The film Vesper IS radically different from the literary charecter. I doubt that the charecter as written by Fleming would have worked in 2006. Our new Bond would be unlikely to fall for a woman who didn't offer him some kind of personal challenge. Making Vesper as smart as oo7, prehaps as insightful, and even more devious, is what makes CR'06 work IMO.
So prehaps it's Eva Green that's an issue. Well, her attraction to me is that she has a "natural" beauty - she looks like a real person. Eva is not an Ursula Andress Bond girl. I find her mixture of accents interesting, her condfident manner refreshing. Vesper's make-up is a "homage" to Faye Dunaway's in "Chinatown", her red dress at the end of the film right out of "The Scarlet Letter". Green's Vesper is straight out of a Hitchcock film. She may not "ring your bell" but the title of "Non appealing" really does not apply.
I'm really surprised that
Maryam d'Abo hasn't come up more as Kara in TLD.
I can't believe that such a wimpy character was allowed to get through as a Bond girl.
...or am I just not appreciating her beauty? ?:)
I always thought Elektra was stunning...and very attractive to men, but she seems to be on quite a few lists. And as for Eva, poor girl, I thought she was not only beautiful in a 40's classic way but I really liked her "prickly demeanour" because I would like to think that if I was faced with meeting a hot shot ladies man..(you never know what her brief was about Bond) that I would give him a tough time too.
However, I thought she looked the most attractive when all her make up was off, when she was visiting Bond in the hospital. She really did look totally different.
But hey, the enigma of finding out what men find attractive, is well, ever changing. (quite enlightening too! :v )
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Well, I like Barry's criteria for someone making the list -- lack of physical beauty AND an uninteresting character. Given that thought process, here are mine:
-- Helga Brandt. Completely agree with Barry on this. Karin Dor does nothing for me, and the character is goofy even by YOLT's low standards.
-- Kara Milovy. Thank you Lexi! While I think Maryam D'Abo is attractive offscreen, her Prince Valiant bob in the film is horrible. She's also a poor actress. But she could have been Kate Hepburn and not been able to salvage what is easily the most annoying, whiny, pathetic Bond girl character for me.
-- Miranda Frost. I'm irritating many of you with this choice, I'm sure. But for me, Rosamund Pike is well short of being a looker, and the character just sort of flits around the film looking down her nose at everyone as if she's above it all.
That's pretty much it. Everyone else is either enough of a looker that I can ignore the character's faults, or plays an interesting enough character that looks are less important, or both. FWIW, Eva Green is both for me.
Well said, I totally agree about Miranda Frost! It's one thing to have the aloofness to stand up to Bond and not fall for his charms, like Pussy Galore, but Miranda was just an arrogant, bitchy ice queen.
And Kira Milovy is on my list as well! She was just dull to the core. It doesn't help that is one of my least favorite films, but she certainly didn't spice it up. I liked her in the Bond Girls Are Forever special, she looks great now, and was much more interesting as herself!
I too will follow Barry's method, and as such, here are my three least favourite Bond girls in chronological order:
1)Kara Milovy. TLD is my all-time second least-favourite Bond film, and a major reason is that the Bond girl was so dull and unmemorable. With LTK, I quite liked the Bond girls, but in TLD, I find Milvoy to be so boring that I don't even remember her, let alone what she looks like. (Okay, maybe I'm exaggerating just a little. )
2)Jinx. I think that Halle Berry is absolutely gorgeous and among the world's three most beautiful women. To me, she is a goddess. I also think she's a terrific actress who's capable of producing some of Cinema's all-time great performances (such as in Monster's Ball.) But in DAD, not only was her performance terrible and she incredibly annoying, but she was also incredibly unattractive. I honestly don't understand how it was possible that a swan was transformed into such an ugly duckling (both inside and out), yet it happened, and for that the makers of DAD should be forced to spend some time with Elektra and her chair or Le Chiffre and his device. X-(
3)Vesper. Several members of this site may not want to hear this, but I truly loathed Vesper. Not only was she IMO completely unattractive, but I also found her to be awesomely annoying, horribly acted and I was delighted when she finally killed herself. :v
Another Bond girl whom I truly hated, but based primarily on personality, was Wai Lin. She, along with Jinx and Vesper, would be among my all-time three least-favourite Bond girls if I wasn't going by Barry's criteria.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Karon Doer as Helga Brandt - seriously lacking in the looks department, a character that lacks energy and is not the least bit threatening. Pales greatly in comparison to Lucianna Paluzzi as Fiona Volpe.
-- Helga Brandt. Completely agree with Barry on this. Karin Dor does nothing for me, and the character is goofy even by YOLT's low standards.
I must say that I am rather shocked. I knew that I was among the minority who loves Helga, but for two separate posters to list her is rather hurtful.
Seriously, I love Helga. To me, she is someone who is both beautiful (continuing the tradition of beautiful Bond girls during the 60's) and... actualy, I don't really remember what personality she had (although she did come across as very much a femme fatale. ) I just remember that IMO she is extremely sexy.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
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Famke Jansen and cerrey Lowell
both and incredibly beutifull and give great performances ...
there characters are great also ... Xenia was a complete one off ... a classic Bond girl villian in the legacy
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Famke was beyond sexy, contrary to some members here who think otherwise.
She never really does anything for me. She just always seemed to have this blank stare, bordering on a scowl, on her face that I just find rather off-putting in terms of attractiveness. Yes, her body is pretty, but overall nothing exceptional. Then again in terms of personal preference I generally prefer brunettes over blondes.
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Fiona: But of course, I forgot your ego, Mr. Bond. James Bond, who only has to make love to a woman and she starts to hear heavenly choirs singing.
Really, Cynjin Smyth, this whole thread is quite
insulting and as someone else pointed out, quite
ungallant. Each of the Bond women is appealing in her own way. I don't think any could be called ugly. Just as Bond himself and tha ctors who played him have their strong and weak points, so do the women. To say that any of them is unappealing, ugly,or unfit for her role
would be to ignore the qualities each possesses.
Just like Bond, we should appreciate them all.
I would much rather list my favorites. Daniela Bianchi as Tatiana, Claudine Auger as Domino,
Lucianna Paluzi as Fiona, Sophie Marceau as Elektra. These are my favorites.
Anyway, glad you enjoyed the Little Nellie post.
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Claudine Auger as Domino (I die!)
Riggs as Tracy
Jane Seymour as Solitaire
Three gorgeous women never to be forgotten.
NO please don't hurt my feelings like that, to me the best looking Bond girl is Melina Havelock, i still think she's beautiful, and if she knocks on my door my wife knows it's time for me to go, Melina is calling.
I think my two least favorite Bonds girls are Tanya Roberts and Grace Jones.
HELGA BRANDT!
I mean, come on, May Day aside, she's positively masculine- looks like a tranny in a Yves St. Laurent flight suit!
I think I may have even seen her on the cover for a German coprophilia porno movie- absolutely horrifying. "The things I do for England." Indeed!
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For the life of me I can't see the bashing of Halle Berry and Eva Green. To each his own but I thought they were two of the best Bond girls ever. I am not a big fan of Die Another Day (first half OK then tey lost me with the invisible car and ice castle)...but I remember critics loving Halle so much in that movie that there was talk of a spin off movie with Jinxx as the primary character. Halle rocked.
We have had unattractive actresses whose characters were interesting, Grace Jones as May Day and Lotte Lenya as Rosa Klebb come to mind.
We have also attractive actresses whose character was annoying, Talisa Soto as Lupe and Tanya Roberts as Tracey come to mind.
To be special, non-appealing, you need to lack suitable looks and be annoying. Based on that definition my nominees are.
Karon Doer as Helga Brandt - seriously lacking in the looks department, a character that lacks energy and is not the least bit threatening. Pales greatly in comparison to Lucianna Paluzzi as Fiona Volpe.
Gloria Hendry as Rosie Carver - not very attractive and her character was a true idiot. Not for one second did I believe she was an agent. She was the worst thing about LALD
Eva Green as Vesper - This one hurts, because Vesper is my favorite Fleming female character. But, Eva Green completly misses the character in both looks and emotion. The fictional Vesper had soft good looks with apprpriate curves "She had black hair, blue eyes and splendid, er, protuberances" - Ian Fleming. Eva Green's looks are hard and whereas the fictional Vesper in the book starts out the relationship somewhat cautious and withdrawn, Eva Green's Vesper starts out as strong willed and bossy. In the book Bonds orders Vesper's dinner and selects the appropriate drinks, Eva Green's Vesper lectures Bond on his role and selects his clothes. Eva Green and the screenwriters completly miss the mark on Vesper.
I think I got carried away, but that is how much Eva Green's Vesper annoys me.
The title of this thread must have been as irresistibly alluring as a hanging curve ball
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Yea you could say that. I know you like her and I also know she reminds you of someone from your past which is pretty neat. I have nothing against her personally, I just had a vision of Vesper and she wasn't it. I have to tell you I love Fleming's CR and one of the reasons was I really liked the female character. I was always hoping they would make CR so I could see Vesper on screen, I just wasn't expecting the Vesper I got.
I absolutely, completely, totally agree with your Vesper analysis. I truly disliked Eva Green as Vesper and was immensely annoyed by how the character was written in the movie and how she played the character. That came up in discussions even after I first saw the movie.
I think she's easily my least favourite Bond girl.. especially because, like you Barry, I had really high expectations, as Vesper was by far the best Bond girl in the books IMO. I just can't stand Green, sorry. I hated even the makeup, the clothes.. just no. Well, given Pam Bouvier is my favourite Bond girl in the movies, I guess one can see why I dislike Green so much
That said, of course merely a matter of taste. She just isn't my cup of tea as Vesper.. I just didn't see Vesper on screen.
The film Vesper IS radically different from the literary charecter. I doubt that the charecter as written by Fleming would have worked in 2006. Our new Bond would be unlikely to fall for a woman who didn't offer him some kind of personal challenge. Making Vesper as smart as oo7, prehaps as insightful, and even more devious, is what makes CR'06 work IMO.
So prehaps it's Eva Green that's an issue. Well, her attraction to me is that she has a "natural" beauty - she looks like a real person. Eva is not an Ursula Andress Bond girl. I find her mixture of accents interesting, her condfident manner refreshing. Vesper's make-up is a "homage" to Faye Dunaway's in "Chinatown", her red dress at the end of the film right out of "The Scarlet Letter". Green's Vesper is straight out of a Hitchcock film. She may not "ring your bell" but the title of "Non appealing" really does not apply.
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Maryam d'Abo hasn't come up more as Kara in TLD.
I can't believe that such a wimpy character was allowed to get through as a Bond girl.
...or am I just not appreciating her beauty? ?:)
I always thought Elektra was stunning...and very attractive to men, but she seems to be on quite a few lists. And as for Eva, poor girl, I thought she was not only beautiful in a 40's classic way but I really liked her "prickly demeanour" because I would like to think that if I was faced with meeting a hot shot ladies man..(you never know what her brief was about Bond) that I would give him a tough time too.
However, I thought she looked the most attractive when all her make up was off, when she was visiting Bond in the hospital. She really did look totally different.
But hey, the enigma of finding out what men find attractive, is well, ever changing. (quite enlightening too! :v )
-- Helga Brandt. Completely agree with Barry on this. Karin Dor does nothing for me, and the character is goofy even by YOLT's low standards.
-- Kara Milovy. Thank you Lexi! While I think Maryam D'Abo is attractive offscreen, her Prince Valiant bob in the film is horrible. She's also a poor actress. But she could have been Kate Hepburn and not been able to salvage what is easily the most annoying, whiny, pathetic Bond girl character for me.
-- Miranda Frost. I'm irritating many of you with this choice, I'm sure. But for me, Rosamund Pike is well short of being a looker, and the character just sort of flits around the film looking down her nose at everyone as if she's above it all.
That's pretty much it. Everyone else is either enough of a looker that I can ignore the character's faults, or plays an interesting enough character that looks are less important, or both. FWIW, Eva Green is both for me.
And Kira Milovy is on my list as well! She was just dull to the core. It doesn't help that is one of my least favorite films, but she certainly didn't spice it up. I liked her in the Bond Girls Are Forever special, she looks great now, and was much more interesting as herself!
1)Kara Milovy. TLD is my all-time second least-favourite Bond film, and a major reason is that the Bond girl was so dull and unmemorable. With LTK, I quite liked the Bond girls, but in TLD, I find Milvoy to be so boring that I don't even remember her, let alone what she looks like.
2)Jinx. I think that Halle Berry is absolutely gorgeous and among the world's three most beautiful women. To me, she is a goddess.
3)Vesper. Several members of this site may not want to hear this, but I truly loathed Vesper. Not only was she IMO completely unattractive, but I also found her to be awesomely annoying, horribly acted and I was delighted when she finally killed herself. :v
Another Bond girl whom I truly hated, but based primarily on personality, was Wai Lin. She, along with Jinx and Vesper, would be among my all-time three least-favourite Bond girls if I wasn't going by Barry's criteria.
Seriously, I love Helga. To me, she is someone who is both beautiful (continuing the tradition of beautiful Bond girls during the 60's) and... actualy, I don't really remember what personality she had (although she did come across as very much a femme fatale.
?:) ?:) How can she be both underrated (unappreciated) and the worst?