the world is not enough

I have recently been looking at other peoples favorite movies which I think is a great addition to ajboo7. Any how the one movie I have considerbly higher on my list than most people is the world is not enough, I think it has all the elements of a great Bond movie and have it as a top ten movie,I was wondering what everybody does not like about it. Maybe I missing the boat,but I really like this movie..
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  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,912Chief of Staff
    I like TWINE myself--it's currently #12 on my list--and I think it has what could be Brosnan's best performance as Bond. I believe the problem with the film, though, is that while it works well as a character/dramatic piece, the action scenes are unimaginative and seem to be inserted almost at random. "OK, gang, stop everything--time for a big action scene!" Then there's the Denise Richards factor--nice to look at, but a brilliant scientist? Hardly!
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  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    I always thought Brosnan's best moments as Bond were when he shared the screen with Desmond Llewelyn. There seemed to be a great deal of affection between those two. Their work here together in TWINE is perhaps one of my favourite moments in Bond history. A really touching scene. As for the rest of the film, the PTS is great, but I did find it all rather tiresome. Many people seem to have a problem with Denise Richards playing a nuclear scientist, but I can believe that far more readily than I can believe Sophie Marceau is an actress.
  • baccaretbaccaret Posts: 61MI6 Agent
    I am with you on the Denise Richards thing ,she hardly makes the film,but pts is great Pierce is in good form,amd Elektra is good as a good and bad bond girl.Im still giving it a good review
  • Scribe74Scribe74 San FranciscoPosts: 149MI6 Agent
    When I saw the TWINE in the theater, it struck me as something of a stale product. The boat chase in the PTS came across as a Bond parody rather than an actual Bond moment.

    While Brosnan's performance was good, the movie itself just seemed tired and flat. I actually enjoyed TND more . . .
  • Brosnan_fanBrosnan_fan Sydney, AustraliaPosts: 521MI6 Agent
    The best of the Brosnan Bonds, and my second favourite Bond movie ever. -{

    The action sequences are great (I love the PTS with the boat chase in particular), and the script is surprisingly multi-leveled for a Bond film. Brosnan and the impressive supporting cast do excellent work here.

    Robert Carlyle is a menacing villain, Robbie Coltrane is amusing as Bond's "ally" Zukovsky and Denise Richards is beautiful as the Bond girl (nuclear scientist or not, her casting makes for wonderful entertainment {[] ).

    This film is definitely the pinnacle of Pierce Brosnan's time as James Bond.
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  • mythrenegademythrenegade Posts: 35MI6 Agent
    I quite like TWINE as well. I really enjoy the PTS. I thought the straightening of the tie was classic, and the boat chase was very fun. As mentioned previously, the moments with Q were marvelous, a fitting sendoff for a great man.

    I thought that Sophie was brilliant, very effectively playing Bond like few women ever have. I also liked the vulnerability that M showed, and the fact that Sophie played her as well. One of the better showings from villians in the entire series. The plot, madman wants to destroy the world, is not new, but it is portrayed effectively.

    I rank this 11 out of 20 (haven't ranked CR yet, too early) but I reach for this one more frequently than its ranking would attest to. The more I think about this film, the more it is likely to move up my rankings :-)

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  • chris Walkenchris Walken Posts: 85MI6 Agent
    edited December 2006
    It is not a great film nor is it a bad one but the highlight for me is Electra King played by Sophie Marcuea very sexy women thats the only thing that makes me want to watch it again
  • jbfreakjbfreak Posts: 144MI6 Agent
    TWINE is high in the ranks on my list. I think it is one of Brosnans better performances and is considerably stronger than TND, which I don't really care for. The only thing I didn't like about it is the whole bullet in the head and still living thing. Other than that there were great villians and the plot hit the spot.
  • Sweepy the CatSweepy the Cat Halifax, West Yorkshire, EnglaPosts: 986MI6 Agent
    Actually the 'formula' is what puts me off this film. I think that with TWINE & DAD they tried to play it safe a bit too much for my liking. Obviousely I like the Bond formula, otherwise I woudn't be here today, but you could compare it to eating your favourite meal 20 times. The film does have a fantastic beginning and end although the pre-titles is like a short film and he theme song by Garbage is, well... garbage. Also, much of the action was stale and unneccesary. Brosnan puts on a great performance as Bond and Elektra was a great 'bad' Bond girl who ranks up amongst 'Fiona Volpe' and 'Xenia Onatopp'. 'Michael Apted' was a great director too but could do a better job of hiding the stunt doubles!
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  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    Its number one on my list.

    Reasons:
    - Elektra
    - Christmas Jones
    - High point of Pierce's acting as Bond
    - Feel of the movie
    - Soundtrack
    - IMO the plot feels the best out of all 4 PB Bonds.
    - Its quite different to the other Bonds, more dramatic.
    - PTS is brilliant.
    - Use of Judi Dench as M.
    - I like the quality of the writing.
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

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  • Mister WhiteMister White The NetherlandsPosts: 814MI6 Agent
    In my list it's just outside the top ten, at number eleven.

    I enjoy it as a movie and always fondly remember it. But I have also noticed that when watching it again it never seems as good as I thought it was.

    One of the points I have to agree on is that the action scenes do seem to have been inserted randomly.

    However I do believe that Sphie Marceau as Elektra is playing one of the best, most believable Bond villains. You really start to feel for her, and do see it her way. A major downpoint here is that she is killed too soon and too easily.

    I also like the fact that Judi Dench gets to show a very personal side of M and isn't just restricted to sitting in an office and ordering Bond around.

    And Desmond LLwellyn's final scene as Q always breaks my heart. He is greatly missed.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    For me TWINE has all the elements, some great performances, good story plenty of action But somehow it just doesn't hit the mark.
    opening boat chase is good untill they turn the boat into some rocket powered roadster. The ski chase where Sure Bond is all over the place but the parahawks seem to be taking themselves out.
    D Richards is LOL Bad.
    And the ending seemes IMHO very small for a Bond it always reminds me of TMWTGG, and one very small point Bond shoes in the sub. tassles and a buckle Bond would never of worne those.
    TWINE has some good points but the sum of the parts doesn't quite add up.
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  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited March 2009
    John Drake wrote:
    but I can believe that far more readily than I can believe Sophie Marceau is an actress.
    I liked Sophie Marceau in TWINE. :))

    I personally can not for the life of me understand why people have a problem with Densie Richards being a scientist. It's saying, basicaly, that if you're intelligent, you can't be good looking, and vice-verca. The truth is, not all models are bimbos and not all nuclear scientists look like Albert Einstein. ;)

    My major problem with TWINE is that it never really followed through on Renard's inability to feel pain. It's a great idea, but the film did nothing with it.
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  • Barry NelsonBarry Nelson ChicagoPosts: 1,508MI6 Agent
    TWINE is in my top five, and is my favorite Brosnan Bond film. It has all the Bond elements that I enjoy. The PTS is one of my favorites; Sophie Marceau is very good as the seductive villainess, Denise Richards, IMO, is better than some give her credit for. Like Dan I see no reason why because she is attractive she can’t be a scientist. That being said, some of the lines she was given could not have been delivered well by Meryl Streep. Brosnan is very good throughout; I especially liked his work in the PTS when threatening the Swiss banker, and in the Q scene. With the exception of the parahawk scene, which I agree seemed forced, the action scenes are very good, especially the firefight in the underground nuclear missile storage area. Robbie Coltrane, as Zukovsky, is one of the more memorable Bond allies, even if he is forced in to being an ally at times. I also enjoyed the soundtrack and lastly I thought the movie had one of the better “Bond, James Bond” scenes. If you recall, Bond has just finished shooting it out with Renard in the missile storage area. He grabs Christmas and runs to a lift where she says, “so you’re a British spy, do you have a name”. To which he replies, “Bond” then shoots something to power the lift up, as they rocket out of the cave “James Bond”. Very nice.
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,489MI6 Agent
    I like TWINE, but maybe it doesn't work great on the small screen as it has a lot of TV actors in it: Coltrane, Carlyle, Dench, Cleese, Kitchen, Brosnan - yeah, I know they've done movies but their roots are in TV and it shows.

    The pts was a biggie at the time but, and I'm not being intentionally tasteless here, after 9/11 it doesn't seem like such an outrage to launch a terrorist attack of that scale on the MI6 building.

    Otherwise, the action scenes are a tad perfunctory on repeated viewing. I like Brozzer's performance though, he's in the aftermath of Thomas Crown and the dialogue seems better tailored to him. Others also dislike the muddy colour palette, it's a bit beige.

    For me, it's the only Brosnan film that really worked on the big screen at the time, I saw it 3 times at the cinema compared to just the once for most of the others before or since.
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  • Monza860Monza860 USPosts: 501MI6 Agent
    I have to say that the first time I seen this movie I was a kid and coming after TND which is action packed, I just simply found it boring. Some 8 years pass, I grow up, watch it again and actually pay attention to the story and I really like it. My fav Brosnan film is still TND, love the story, action, everything really and GE was the first bond movie I ever seen. So those two will always top TWINE to me.
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  • Harry PalmerHarry Palmer Somewhere in the past ...Posts: 325MI6 Agent
    I've always liked TWINE (I think it's number 6 on my list... or thereabouts). I love the credit sequence and song, I like the reworking of the GF plot, and I love love love Sophie Marceau.
    Locations are pretty spectacular too.
    1. Cr, 2. Ltk, 3. Tld, 4. Qs, 5. Ohmss, 6. Twine, 7. Tnd, 8. Tswlm, 9. Frwl, 10. Tb, 11. Ge, 12. Gf, 13. Dn, 14. Mr, 15. Op, 16. Yolt, 17. Sf, 18. Daf, 19. Avtak, 20. Sp, 21. Fyeo, 22. Dad, 23. Lald, 24. Tmwtgg
  • Mister WhiteMister White The NetherlandsPosts: 814MI6 Agent
    edited March 2009
    Sorry, something went wrong there...;%
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  • 84208420 Posts: 721MI6 Agent
    edited March 2009
    TWINE was a great bond movie its current 7th on my list. :)
  • Thomas CrownThomas Crown Posts: 119MI6 Agent
    Hardyboy wrote:
    I like TWINE myself--it's currently #12 on my list--and I think it has what could be Brosnan's best performance as Bond. I believe the problem with the film, though, is that while it works well as a character/dramatic piece, the action scenes are unimaginative and seem to be inserted almost at random. "OK, gang, stop everything--time for a big action scene!" Then there's the Denise Richards factor--nice to look at, but a brilliant scientist? Hardly!

    Some good points here. I really enjoy The World Is Not Enough and believe, especially at the time it was released, it is one of the most faithful renditions of Ian Fleming's conception of James Bond. The locations are quite enjoyable (contrary to the many who deride them for being "dull") and with the exception of Denise Richards as Hardy notes, the cast is probably one of the series' best; pulling in actors for their caliber not their glamor, and getting great performances from virtually everyone. Some complain about the expanded role of M, but I don't think it is at all out of the realm of possibility for M to have political and emotional connections to other people (she is a human, right? ;)). Brosnan is in top shape, and while I would agree with Hardy's critique of the action regarding the ski scene and the helicopter battle, the rest of the action scenes work in just great. Most enjoyable for me outside of the characters however, and this is what propels it into "best in the series" category for me, is the level of subtext in the story. I love watching the story evolve. From Elektra using Renard to kill her father and M, to thinking Renard is the villain so M is willing to have Bond protect Elektra (giving her another chance at M), to Elektra using Bond's weakness for women against him to bring M out to her death, to the ultimate revelation that it was all along not Renard, but Elektra that is pulling the strings. What a treat, especially from a movie series often written off as fluff.

    Between a solid cast, beautiful cinematography, great performances, enjoyable scenes and a smart story, TWINE is one of the best for me.
  • heartbroken_mr_draxheartbroken_mr_drax New Zealand Posts: 2,073MI6 Agent
    I love watching the story evolve. From Elektra using Renard to kill her father and M, to thinking Renard is the villain so M is willing to have Bond protect Elektra (giving her another chance at M), to Elektra using Bond's weakness for women against him to bring M out to her death, to the ultimate revelation that it was all along not Renard, but Elektra that is pulling the strings. What a treat, especially from a movie series often written off as fluff.

    Excellent! Could not agree more.

    I will defend Christmas Jones because she is completly overshadowed by the two other powerful performances by females in the film.

    She is amazing to look at and I find her dialouge not too bad or flimsly especially the flirtatious scene with the fake Dr. Arkov.

    TWINE is at the top of my list!
    1. TWINE 2. FYEO 3. MR 4. TLD 5. TSWLM 6. OHMSS 7. DN 8. OP 9. AVTAK 10. TMWTGG 11. QoS 12. GE 13. CR 14. TB 15. FRWL 16. TND 17. LTK 18. GF 19. SF 20. LaLD 21. YOLT 22. NTTD 23. DAD 24. DAF. 25. SP

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  • Herr MichaelHerr Michael Posts: 360MI6 Agent
    I enjoyed most aspects of the movie too. I just wish he hadn't driven Q's boat through the London back streets.

    That was harking back to Roger Moore driving the gondola in Venice. Augh!

    Sophie was perhaps one of the sexiest Bond women ever.
  • urhashurhash USPosts: 988MI6 Agent
    Watching it again on blu-ray last night, I realized that one of Renard's henchmen is the same guy Craig throws off the roof in the Opera scene.
  • Mister WhiteMister White The NetherlandsPosts: 814MI6 Agent
    urhash wrote:
    Watching it again on blu-ray last night, I realized that one of Renard's henchmen is the same guy Craig throws off the roof in the Opera scene.

    Interesting!

    Can you specify at what point he can be seen?
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  • Thomas CrownThomas Crown Posts: 119MI6 Agent
    urhash wrote:
    Watching it again on blu-ray last night, I realized that one of Renard's henchmen is the same guy Craig throws off the roof in the Opera scene.

    Interesting!

    Can you specify at what point he can be seen?

    You Only Live Twice, or so it seems ;)
  • urhashurhash USPosts: 988MI6 Agent
    He's one of the henchmen when Renard is taking control of the submarine. He's in the control area when Brosnan rushes in and tries to force the sub to the surface.
  • TripleXXXTripleXXX Posts: 23MI6 Agent
    Yes, it's a pretty good Bond film. Not the best, but there's definetely worse out there. Number 10 on my list. Elektra was great, and one of the best-looking Bond ladies, Denise Richards is also pretty damn hot, and alot better than many of the bimbo Bond girls out there. I like the PTS and I thought the title song was very good. The helicopters with the razor blades were pretty cool, although i think they would have been better off with some MG's mounted on them.
  • shaken66shaken66 california usaPosts: 155MI6 Agent
    urhash wrote:
    He's one of the henchmen when Renard is taking control of the submarine. He's in the control area when Brosnan rushes in and tries to force the sub to the surface.
    Didn't I just read that this is the lucky son of a... who's now dating Gemma Arterton?
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    edited April 2009
    I'm somewhat intrigued by the forgiveness and affection afforded this one. It's a bit 'down there' on my list; I actually like the Brosnan Bonds in the same order they were released---he opened with GE (in my opinion his best), then TND, TWINE and finally DAD...I simply think they got generally less good as they went along.

    His third is a real mixed bag. I agree that Brozzer has some nice moments in TWINE. I don't mind Denise Richards as a nuclear scientist---if Tanya Roberts can pass as a seismologist, or whatever :(|) ---and I actually like Sophie Marceau as the female heavy (a nice turn, that). I'm saddened, though, by the wasting of Robert Carlyle and his 'feel no pain' gimmick. So much more could have been done with that.

    The PTS should have ended in Bilbao, after Bond went out the window. The boat chase should have happened post-titles, if at all (I hate that the Q-Boat launches through an exterior wall of MI6 HQ :# :# :# !). Some of the set-pieces are distinctly uninspired: The skiing scene with the silly fan-driven vehicles doesn't work for me. The buzz-saw hanging from the helicopter (unused from GE) seems flat as well.

    I enjoyed the submarine finale---and Bond's killing of Electra is fantastic---but this was the first real example of the overuse of/overtraveling Dame Judi's M, IMNO. I like the song, and much of the film, but quite a few missed notes for me overall.

    By contrast, QoS (arguably a much more vilified film) is at least focused and deliberate in its intent (IMRO), whereas TWINE seems, to me, like a reanimated corpse simply going through its motions because the mad-scientist, just off-screen, is pushing electricity through it.

    Moments of brilliance, but ultimately bogged down in execution. I'm glad it's favoured by others, though, since it obviously made its money and kept the whole thing going! :)
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  • bacaretbacaret ArizonaPosts: 73MI6 Agent
    Well I for one have always liked twine, I think it is Pierce's 2nd best effort behind Ge. Th pre title is great, I like Electra as a bad bond girl and Renard is an okay villian, of course the one thing that we found out in this movie is christmas only comes once a year!!
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