Concept of recency?
dimch
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A lot of people have been saying that this might be the best Bond movie ever and that Daniel Craig might be the best Bond ever.
But I wonder if this might just be due to the fact that it's the 'latest' Bond?
For example, if Tomorrow Never Dies or Goldeneye came out after this, would we be saying the same about them?
But I wonder if this might just be due to the fact that it's the 'latest' Bond?
For example, if Tomorrow Never Dies or Goldeneye came out after this, would we be saying the same about them?
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I certainly didn't say the same after DAD, that's for sure.....
I think you're right, though, that for some people, the latest thing is always the best. That's one of the reasons scholars study things over time -- art and the pereception of it is influenced by many factors, and standing the test of time is a measurement of its true impact. I suspect that "Casino Royale" will be perceived as a grwat Bond film 20 years from now, but I hope that the next Bond film is even better.
I agree... most Fleming content since FYEO.. I think CR will be regarded on par with OHMSS. Let's hope Bond 22 doesn't equal DAF
Not on sites like this though. Alot of us put the boot in on DAD as soon as it came out despite its success at the Box Office. The good thing about this site is that people discuss the merits of the quality of a film and aren't just swept away by hype.
I do think CR is just a genuinely good movie and history will judge it as such!
I was agast the first time I saw CR. I couldn't believe what I saw (agast in a very good way mind you). It took me a while to finaly realize what I had seen. Yes I know some of you don't proclaim it has the "Greatest Bond eva", I don't either, but its damn close. once all of it finally set in, I went and watched it again, and again, and again, and again. I can't get enough of it. I can't wait for the DVD to come out. I wonder what little goodies we'll get with it?
What a lovely combination of words, and a theory I hadn't come across before. The ever-faithful/fallible Wikipedia even has a page devoted to the subject:
The recency effect, in psychology, is a cognitive bias that results from disproportionate salience of recent stimuli or observations. For example, if a driver sees an equal total number of red cars as blue cars during a long journey, but there happens to be a glut of red cars at the end of the journey, he or she is likely to conclude that there were more red cars than blue cars throughout the drive.
The inverse of this effect is the primacy effect. The recency effect is compatible with the peak-end rule.
All fascinating stuff. But as one of AJB's more senior members (if only chronologically) I'd have to disagree with the principle in this case. I've been lucky enough to be aware of all seven Bonds introductions, and none of them have been received with the same acclaim as Our Man Craig. Lazenby, Moore, Dalton and Brosnan were generally greeted with scepticism that they could fill the shoes of uber-Bond Connery, and a grudging acknowledgement that they might 'grow into the role' after a couple of films.
Only Connery himself seems to bear comparison with Craig's introduction: initial press resistance that either men were good-looking or sophisticated enough to fulfil Fleming's ambitions, then a mixture of relief and acclaim as both defied their detractors and created an image that exceeded expectations.
Craig-rapture, while not a completely new phenomena, does seem to be something we haven't seen since 1962.
This would presumably explain why many fans can accept no one but Connery in the role.
... unless of course he really was better than everyone else.
But if you're an advocate of the Primacy Effect, yes.
My feelings exactly MNL. I do feel a little uneasy with the whole 'Craig is the best', 'CR is the the best film ever' concept. It is all slightly reminicent of the whole Brosnan/GE era when PB was the saviour of the franchise.
Time will tell and CR and Craig will find their rightful place in the pecking order.
I also feel a little uneasy with the whole 'Craig is the best', 'CR is the best film ever' concept. I wonder whether at least part of it is an overreaction to all the anti-Craig controversy, CnB nonsense etc.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Craig and CR very much and found little to criticise about either. But is Craig really that good? Is Casino Royale really that good? Maybe they are, judging by the nine BAFTA nomination's.