I don't think that he hardly likes anything about CASINO ROYALE. It's only natural that he would have such criticisms about the movie - from the actor who played Bond to the latter's romance with the leading female character. Like I said . . . it's only natural. I'm certain that none of us hardly have anything positive to say about a movie that did not appeal to us.
Mind if I speak for myself? It's actually not true that I hardly like anything about CR. It's in my top 13 Bond films, so I do quite enjoy it. I just think it's very flawed, and among its biggest flaws IMO are the dialogue, Green's performance and the development of the romance. Plus, while I don't love Craig, I much prefer him to Lazenby and Dalton. So I don't dislike it; I saw it twice and I don't regret doing so; I just think it's enormously flawed and far from the masterpiece that many poeple on this board think it is.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
And also I dont understand how you think that the romantic development in GF is close (i know u said behind) but CLOSE to OHMSS???? ?:) ?:)
I never mentioned GF. I was talking about GE (which you mentioned.) ?:)
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Erm... what's romantic about GE? Bond and Natalya hardly know each other. They only really meet after the train incident and then it's onto the final furlong. A similar problem with Martin Campbell's CR, in that Bond only gets to meet the girl about an hour into the movie...
Erm... what's romantic about GE? Bond and Natalya hardly know each other. They only really meet after the train incident and then it's onto the final furlong. A similar problem with Martin Campbell's CR, in that Bond only gets to meet the girl about an hour into the movie...
I dont mean its love for the whole movie, just when they are together there is really good chemistry.
Yes, indeed. While GF was IMO one of the two least flawed Bond films of all time, I consider CR to be a very flawed film. The reasons I consider CR to be so flawed relate to some of the performances, the screenplay, the dialogue, the direction, the dialogue, the lack of certain elements, the theme song and did I mention the dialogue?
I consider GF to be flawless; however since I spoke of the flaws of CR, perhaps you could mention the flaws in GF?
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Erm... what's romantic about GE? Bond and Natalya hardly know each other. They only really meet after the train incident and then it's onto the final furlong. A similar problem with Martin Campbell's CR, in that Bond only gets to meet the girl about an hour into the movie...
Like Drax said, I too was referring to their chemistry (which I felt was more romantic than sexual.) Although there ws never a time in which I thought they would get married , I also got the sense that Bond didn't merely want to sleep with Natalya.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Yes, indeed. While GF was IMO one of the two least flawed Bond films of all time, I consider CR to be a very flawed film. The reasons I consider CR to be so flawed relate to some of the performances, the screenplay, the dialogue, the direction, the dialogue, the lack of certain elements, the theme song and did I mention the dialogue?
I consider GF to be flawless; however since I spoke of the flaws of CR, perhaps you could mention the flaws in GF?
Pussy Galore is not hot, the screenplay, bad romance between them, the special effects, the plot, the storyline, the gassing of fort knox, the adolecantness of SC, the continual over the top-ness like Goldfinger tieing up the pilots of the plane at the end, the squashing of the car, the grapple cord at the start, how JB converts PG to a hetero.
Without intending to tread on your argument, lads, the above simply can't be allowed to pass without comment. As M says in TWINE, "This will not stand". Honor Blackman was sex on legs at the time of GF and even today she's still a stunner- I got her autograph :x at a Bond music concert she was hosting a year or two ago- and her scenes with Sir Sean radiate sexual chemistry. I don't think this is a minority opinion, either.
Ok, the lady's honour has been defended; now, please continue comparing the flaws of CR and GF.
Without intending to tread on your argument, lads, the above simply can't be allowed to pass without comment. As M says in TWINE, "This will not stand". Honor Blackman was sex on legs at the time of GF and even today she's still a stunner- I got her autograph :x at a Bond music concert she was hosting a year or two ago- and her scenes with Sir Sean radiate sexual chemistry. I don't think this is a minority opinion, either.
It is certainly not a minority opinion. I have to say, I am extremely jealous that you met her and got her autograph. Not hot? Pussy was a WOMAN, not a girl, a WOMAN. -{
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Without intending to tread on your argument, lads, the above simply can't be allowed to pass without comment. As M says in TWINE, "This will not stand". Honor Blackman was sex on legs at the time of GF and even today she's still a stunner- I got her autograph :x at a Bond music concert she was hosting a year or two ago- and her scenes with Sir Sean radiate sexual chemistry. I don't think this is a minority opinion, either.
It is certainly not a minority opinion. I have to say, I am extremely jealous that you met her and got her autograph. Not hot? Pussy was a WOMAN, not a girl, a WOMAN. -{
Gotta say, I never found Pussy Galore to be that sexy in the film. Pretty, yes...sexy, no...if that makes any sense. Maybe I'm so used to buxom women in bikinis that nothing else will do. I will say this, however: Honor Blackman today is one of the most beautiful women of her age that I have ever seen, an absolute stunner. I find her 2007 look for more attractive than her 1964 look. Does that make me weird?
Honor Blackman today is one of the most beautiful women of her age that I have ever seen, an absolute stunner. I find her 2007 look for more attractive than her 1964 look. Does that make me weird?
Honor Blackman today is one of the most beautiful women of her age that I have ever seen, an absolute stunner. I find her 2007 look for more attractive than her 1964 look. Does that make me weird?
(Keep digging, Hilly...)
No weirder than I am. Hmm...
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Here's your shovel -- catch! Now, get your back into it! )
Gotta say, I never found Pussy Galore to be that sexy in the film. Pretty, yes...sexy, no...if that makes any sense. Maybe I'm so used to buxom women in bikinis that nothing else will do. I will say this, however: Honor Blackman today is one of the most beautiful women of her age that I have ever seen, an absolute stunner. I find her 2007 look for more attractive than her 1964 look. Does that make me weird?
Gotta say, I never found Pussy Galore to be that sexy in the film. Pretty, yes...sexy, no...if that makes any sense. Maybe I'm so used to buxom women in bikinis that nothing else will do. I will say this, however: Honor Blackman today is one of the most beautiful women of her age that I have ever seen, an absolute stunner. I find her 2007 look for more attractive than her 1964 look. Does that make me weird?
(Keep digging, Hilly...)
I never found Pussy Galore to be all that sexy either. As for Honor Blackman 2007 looking more attractive than 1964......Well, she does look very good for her age.
. . .and her scenes with Sir Sean radiate sexual chemistry. I don't think this is a minority opinion, either.
I would agree with you if it were not for that ludicrous barn scene in "GOLDFINGER", in which Bond "seduces" (translation: assert his so-call masculine strength) Pussy Galore. I really hate that scene.
You're quite right, the scripting of the scene (by Paul Dehn, btw, not Fleming or Maibaum) leaves a lot to be desired- but just look at the smouldering eyes of Blackman and Connery during it!
You're quite right, the scripting of the scene (by Paul Dehn, btw, not Fleming or Maibaum) leaves a lot to be desired- but just look at the smouldering eyes of Blackman and Connery during it!
I love that scene. Not because I'm a mysoginsitic macho brute , but because I love the idea of Bond being able to change a woman's sexuality. It's very un-PC and it could never happen today, but that is a major reason why I love it.
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
Hmmm . . . I believe that this is called the heterosexual male fantasy. There is a female version of this in which the heterosexual female seduces a homosexual male.
Perhaps. Although it's also because Bond (particularly Connery's Bond) did things that would be deemed completely unacceptable today. Another example was his sleeping with and then turning into the police of Miss Taro in DN.
(BTW I don't think that Bond was a mysoginsitic macho brute either.)
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
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And also I dont understand how you think that the romantic development in GF is close (i know u said behind) but CLOSE to OHMSS???? ?:) ?:)
"Better make that two."
I never mentioned GF. I was talking about GE (which you mentioned.) ?:)
Roger Moore 1927-2017
I dont mean its love for the whole movie, just when they are together there is really good chemistry.
Like when PB says "Call their bluff" etc.
"Better make that two."
Ok thats cool bout the GF/GE thing easy mistake.
But CR more flawed the GF? ?:) ?:) ?:) ?:)
"Better make that two."
I consider GF to be flawless; however since I spoke of the flaws of CR, perhaps you could mention the flaws in GF?
Pussy Galore is not hot, the screenplay, bad romance between them, the special effects, the plot, the storyline, the gassing of fort knox, the adolecantness of SC, the continual over the top-ness like Goldfinger tieing up the pilots of the plane at the end, the squashing of the car, the grapple cord at the start, how JB converts PG to a hetero.
I do like the movie, but its flawed as ****.
"Better make that two."
Without intending to tread on your argument, lads, the above simply can't be allowed to pass without comment. As M says in TWINE, "This will not stand". Honor Blackman was sex on legs at the time of GF and even today she's still a stunner- I got her autograph :x at a Bond music concert she was hosting a year or two ago- and her scenes with Sir Sean radiate sexual chemistry. I don't think this is a minority opinion, either.
Ok, the lady's honour has been defended; now, please continue comparing the flaws of CR and GF.
Gotta say, I never found Pussy Galore to be that sexy in the film. Pretty, yes...sexy, no...if that makes any sense. Maybe I'm so used to buxom women in bikinis that nothing else will do. I will say this, however: Honor Blackman today is one of the most beautiful women of her age that I have ever seen, an absolute stunner. I find her 2007 look for more attractive than her 1964 look. Does that make me weird?
(Keep digging, Hilly...)
"You're the most attractive of all my parents' friends..."
Which film?
Roger Moore 1927-2017
No weirder than I am. Hmm...
(Need some help digging that hole, Hilly?
Here's your shovel -- catch! Now, get your back into it!
Agreed
"Better make that two."
I never found Pussy Galore to be all that sexy either. As for Honor Blackman 2007 looking more attractive than 1964......Well, she does look very good for her age.
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"Better make that two."
You're quite right, the scripting of the scene (by Paul Dehn, btw, not Fleming or Maibaum) leaves a lot to be desired- but just look at the smouldering eyes of Blackman and Connery during it!
(BTW I don't think that Bond was a mysoginsitic macho brute either.)
No, no, Fish, this is not THE heterosexual male fantasy. It is simply A heterosexual male fantasy; us guys have lots of them
(Well, there goes my 1000th post in mature and reasoned fashion! "Really, 007, I've no time for these adolescent antics of yours...")