spinoff idea
crawfordboon
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Now that we have seen what is effectively the James Bond equivalent of Batman Begins, how about re-using the idea of the sehlved 'Jinx' fhranchise idea - but instead of that annoying badly acted nonentity, there was a prequel/re-boot tracing the early years and rise to prominence of Blofeld.
He and Bond are each other arch nemisis, so it would be great to see Bond's rise parallelled by that of main future enemy. We coudl see what happened to Blofeld, what made him the monster he was, trace his back story. Like Hannibal Rising, but actually good.
Thoughts?
He and Bond are each other arch nemisis, so it would be great to see Bond's rise parallelled by that of main future enemy. We coudl see what happened to Blofeld, what made him the monster he was, trace his back story. Like Hannibal Rising, but actually good.
Thoughts?
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Toby Stephens was the worst actor in DAD, not Pierce Brosnan or Halle Berry :v
Did you mean to say "Which" rather than "What"?
As far a Blofeld Begins? Could be interesting, and wouldn't mind if, rather than a spinoff, that elements of a burgeoning Blofeld are seen in the upcoming Bond films with Craig, but I'd hate to see it go into the realms of hero/antihero kind of thing, where for some reason Blofeld's life of crime is all because Bond burned off Blofeld's hair in a college science lab experiment gone awry.
Thanks...you'll be able to read all about it in my upcoming 'Young Blofeld' book series.
I seem to remember reading a bit abotu his backstory somewhere, can't remember if it was Fleming, fan fiction, or just speculative commentary.
Thunderball, Chapter 5, is the best source. There are some bits and pieces in OHMSS, too.
Very true. There were some good things in DAD, despite the panning it frequently gets here- IMO it's terrific up till Iceland- and most of the good moments belong to Brosnan.
Stephens's performance is OK, but he's miscast. Graves seems to young to be a knight and a respected tycoon -- he looks about 25. Rosamund Pike's performance is just boring, IMO.
Back on topic...I don't like the idea of any Bond-related spinoff (feels like it dilutes the franchise). But if one were to be done, crawford's right that it should be Blofeld.
Not sure how this morphed into a DAD thread, but...
No, Jinx's lines were definitely not only bad ones -- Bond's were probably worse. In fact, the byplay between the two of them is generally dreadful. Graves had some howlers, too -- really, just about everyone does. Trust me, there's little in DAD I have patience for, and Halle Berry's performance is but a relatively small source of irritation. But we were originally talking about performances, Berry's in particular, so that's what I specifically mentioned. As to the VR scene with Moneypenny, I found it LOL funny at the time, but maybe I was just happy to be jarred me out of my boredom. I can certainly understand how it could be seen as wince-inducing.
1)she came across as too much of a 'look at me, look at me, I'm Bond's equal' type of Bond girl. I couldn't stand that about her.
2)I thought she was extremely unconvincing and while she did have some bad dialogue, unlike Brosnan, I don't think she was able to handle the dialogue at all. I think that the diaogue, as well as the idea of being in a Bond film, simply got the better of her.
3)There was nothing about her (wether it be looks or personality) that made me understand why Bond would not only sleep with her, but would end the film with her. Surely he could have done better.
It has nothing to do with that. You are always bringing that up, almost as if you want someone to say that they do have a problem with that. My problem is that I found he to be entirely unconvincing as a secret agent, and enormously annoying. The fact that I also found her to be quite unattractive made things only worse.
Personally, I was delighted when she won the Oscar for Monster's Ball. IMO it was the best performance of 2001.
Fish, to give you an example of how much I hated Halle Berry in DAD, she is one of my favourite actresses. I also consider her to be among the most talented actresses in the world. But I really couldn't stand her in DAD.
The whole American secret agent, and maybe I'm missing the point, but I have no problem with that, American secret agents like Holly Goodhead and Pam Bouvier are among the best Bond girls (and more Bond's equal than Halle was, difference being, they aren't as in your face about it).
Blofeld would have to be played by a different actor in each film, though
As it happens, in real life, I probably would try to find a psychological explanation for somebody's behaviour (I'm a bit of a softie ;%
I'm curious to know what your deep suspicions are?
It's funny, I liked Halle, I don't understand people not finding her attractive when she is consistently named one of the most beautiful actresses. The one that really annoyed me was Rosamund Pike!
The blame for all of the problems with DAD really lies with Purvis and Wade though, I fault them far more than the actors.
But getting back to the original post, I would be interested in more of a back story on Blofeld, but it wouldn't work independently of a Bond film. I always fear that when an evil, powerful enemy is eliminated, there is always someone to replace him. So it might be a good story line if one of Blofeld's henchman were still around, waiting for the right time to get to Bond, or maybe even a son of his appears seeking revenge? Who knows..
Wow..that's kind of scary! They must be pretty bad.
Indeed, Halle Berry is a very attractive woman. And she also has a warm and friendly personality based on interviews I have seen.
But she's far less attractive as Jinx in DAD. Her personality is very lukewarm and not nearly so friendly. Yes, she had some awful dialogue, but never looked like she could rise above it. Overall, her performance and delivery were dire.
For the record, I have nothing against women with short hair. Halle Berry just happens to look more attractive to me with longer hair.
I sincerely hope it doesn't go there.
I am not saying that it is the reason quite a few people disliked her in the role. But I read somewhere(don't ask me to provide details, I can't remember) that a survey on what men found attractive/unnatractive in a women. One of the top things that men found unattractive was short hair. I was just saying maybe that is the reason many people don't find her as attractive as some people make out.
And yes, I agree she looks much better with longer hair.
Back onto topic; the worst thing that could happen IMO is if a Blofeld spinoff turns into the James Bond equivalent of Smallville. That would be an absolute nightmare.
As for Berry, I've loved her since the early 90s and always thought she was extremely beautiful. So you can imagine my disappointment in DAD, I thought her performance was rushed with a slight sense of self consciousness, as if the poor gal had all the pressure of the oscar on her shoulders and the expectations of a 40 year anniversary.