James Bond Car Collection - Questions and praise

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  • myhandlemyhandle Posts: 124MI6 Agent
    TheWizard wrote:
    Good Evening !

    Stumbled upon your thread whilst checking out James Bond Car Collection online.

    The offical news is the collection will cease at 110 in the UK.

    Issue 108 and 109 to be delivered in August

    Issue 110 to be delivered in September with Replacement Issue 86 .

    This collection will not continue beyond 110. However with likely news of a further James Bond instalment an extention has not been ruled out though with current market place it is doubtful.

    The suggestions of issues and comments have been noted. Some great ideas.

    Hello,

    Thanks for the post! If by any chance you have any influence with the manufacturers/ distributors, I would like to let you know that if the collection continued to 200 cars I would buy them all, even if they were fairly obscure. This has two caveats however; the first is that they would have to be 1:43 scale rather than other scales (though if there were a 1:500 Liparus eating the submarine or a 1:300 spacecraft eating the small spacecraft, I would probably buy them anyway). The second is one of accuracy. I think that the move to Ixo from UH will probably guarantee this, but I really would not want another V8 Volante with the weird rear or another totally wrong generation of the Jaguar XJ from QOS).
    So in summary, please keep up the good work. I would find somewhere to display the extra models even though at present there is nowhere obvious to put them.

    So if on the offchance ...

    - Wetbike

    -Transparent Vanquish / Vanish

    - Blue Rolls Park Ward Convertible (proto-corniche)

    - Mercedes 450SEL

    - Necros' milk float

    - Lincoln MkVII

    - Eligor, LBS, Schuco and Minichamps, and others, make heavy trucks in 1:43 scale. I would like the Kenworth and if it ends up being more expensive, so be it.

    200 might be too many to commit to. However another 40 models would not mean too many cars that are featured for mere seconds. I know that Colonel Moon's GT40 is an awful model, but the Diablo is great - so how about doing the yellow F355 too, nose down in the mud where it lands?

    By this stage the new film will be out, and that will clearly be good for at least 5 models, and possibly 8 or 9.

    And as for the Vulcan, what about a 1:43 cockpit scene of the pilot getting his air hose cut? I think that is just about feasible. I have a model of Jacques Villeneuve racing his F1 Ferrari against an F104 (yes, I know it's a far smaller plane than a Vulcan) and the plane is reproduced just up to the start of the wing).

    Either way, great job on the collection.
  • WinnieWinnie Posts: 129MI6 Agent
    TheWizard seems to have answered most of our concerns in his one post.Where have you been hiding all this time?Hope you have not vanished for good.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Winnie wrote:
    TheWizard seems to have answered most of our concerns in his one post.Where have you been hiding all this time?Hope you have not vanished for good.

    Maybe he's JohnSteed's replacement? ?:)
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
    Sounds to me like Fabbri had hoped to stretch collection till new bond came out and then finish with cars from that film but the extended delays, financial issues with studio, licensing timeetc etc seem to have put paid to that plan. Shame really - I guess there is nothing stopping them doing a new mini collection tied into the next bond film - they certainly have a mailing list to send attractive fliers too. Given production time they may even have the time to do a decent special and some dioramas. They haven't upset Hongwell yet even if IXO aren't interested and they do lots of contract production and make not bad models either.
  • DokkDokk Posts: 382MI6 Agent
    Winnie wrote:
    TheWizard seems to have answered most of our concerns in his one post.Where have you been hiding all this time?Hope you have not vanished for good.

    Maybe he's JohnSteed's replacement? ?:)

    or one of the previous posters, who said they were leaving the forum..???????? :o -{ :007)
  • Kissy SuzukiKissy Suzuki IrelandPosts: 66MI6 Agent
    TheWizard wrote:
    Good Evening !

    This collection will not continue beyond 110. However with likely news of a further James Bond instalment an extention (sic) has not been ruled out though with current market place it is doubtful.


    Hmm. Is this statement not completely contradictory?

    I wonder if someone is trying to cause a bit of mischief here .... Maybe Dokk is right!
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,762Chief of Staff
    Dokk wrote:
    Winnie wrote:
    TheWizard seems to have answered most of our concerns in his one post.Where have you been hiding all this time?Hope you have not vanished for good.

    Maybe he's JohnSteed's replacement? ?:)

    or one of the previous posters, who said they were leaving the forum..???????? :o -{ :007)

    No maybe about it I'm afraid !
    YNWA 97
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    maz wrote:
    Sounds to me like Fabbri had hoped to stretch collection till new bond came out and then finish with cars from that film but the extended delays, financial issues with studio, licensing timeetc etc seem to have put paid to that plan. Shame really - I guess there is nothing stopping them doing a new mini collection tied into the next bond film - they certainly have a mailing list to send attractive fliers too. Given production time they may even have the time to do a decent special and some dioramas. They haven't upset Hongwell yet even if IXO aren't interested and they do lots of contract production and make not bad models either.


    Once the JBCC is concluded, it will be very difficult to revive. There are huge advertising costs every time you start a partwork, so if you are thinking of one you will probably need 20-30 issues as a minimum to justify the costs. I don't think Fabbri can milk so many models from the next Bond movie.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Sir Miles wrote:
    No maybe about it I'm afraid !

    If he's got a beef with me (and I do know who this is...), okay, let him debate it out. But impersonating a Fabbri employee and potentially spreading disinformation about the collection? I think that's over the line. That's all I'll say. But I digress.

    As for a possible reviving of the collection, I do agree with maz and genuinely think they were trying to hold out until Bond 23 came along. The only way of easily reviving the collection is if they have moulds already done...but since not even the press knows anything about cars slated to appear in the film, they obviously don't. With no moulds (because there's no movie), I agree with Jag that start-up (technically re-start-up, but they'd still have to advertise) costs would be somewhat prohibitive. They could issue a series of, perhaps, larger scale cars (1/18 or 1/24) to justify the issue of only a few and still get the details right. Since we know Ixo is expanding into 1/18 (their first models in the scale have been out for only about two months), I wouldn't totally rule that out as a seperate partwork. Gives them an excuse to make about 5 cars rather than 20. Besides, we have seen 1/24 partworks before. Not cheaply, but we have seen them. It would be nice to see, though I doubt Fabbri does it.

    The only other way of doing it is actually saying that they'll take a one year hiatus until Bond 23 comes out, but keep people on the subscriber list. I doubt that does well and Fabbri would probably lose a ton of subscriptions, but I guess it's theoretically possible.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    See what I meant about being anonymous people behind our profiles? If our moderator Sir Miles hadn't let us know, people would still be debating the in's & out's of what "TheWizard" posted.

    Anyways, despite the Dutch rumours I am for myself sure that the collection will be ending with Issue 110. TheWizard is most likely correct that the final delivery to UK subscribers in September will have the replacement Anglia (Issue 89, not 86, mr TheWizard) in it along with Issue 110, even though GEF haven't actually confirmed as such AFAIK.

    I reckon it will be possible to reboot the series after "Red Sky At Night" (or whatever Bond23 is called) is released, as the "James Bond Car Collection Part Two, featuring the cars of 'Bond23' and some favourites from the earlier years (unmade Bond1-22 models), celebrating the half-century of EON OO7 films in 2012" or somesuch.

    Or they could call it the "James Bond 50th Anniversary Collection" and diversify into other scales, materials or vehicles, as per some of the suggestions here.

    Possible, but improbable, methinks :( I'd be delighted to be proved wrong, though.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited July 2011
    FACT wrote:
    See what I meant about being anonymous people behind our profiles? If our moderator Sir Miles hadn't let us know, people would still be debating the in's & out's of what "TheWizard" posted.

    Not quite, and if you wish, you can PM Sir Miles about that statement for clarity. The timestamps between my post to "TheWizard" and my PM to Sir Miles about...being the same person as someone specific who left...were made 33 minutes apart. The only reason I even posted was because I wanted to get him to outright say he was a Fabbri rep.
    FACT wrote:
    Anyways, despite the Dutch rumours I am for myself sure that the collection will be ending with Issue 110. TheWizard is most likely correct that the final delivery to UK subscribers in September will have the replacement Anglia (Issue 89, not 86, mr TheWizard) in it along with Issue 110, even though GEF haven't actually confirmed as such AFAIK.

    Are you sure? The correct-base Anglias have already shown up in Germany. With models essentially being released one per month now, they could include it with the Econoline in the UK.
    FACT wrote:
    Possible, but improbable, methinks :( I'd be delighted to be proved wrong, though.

    Especially given that, as has been mentioned, corporate politics figure big into this. Fabbri could in theory work with Ixo and Hongwell, though Ixo is pretty busy and Hongwell has actually turned down some partworks as of late...not sure why. That isn't to say they won't try anything, though. Collectible figurines seem to be a relatively untapped market via partwork, and with Fabbri having established its "Bond credibility" via the JBCC and the DB5 partwork, they may try something along those lines.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,762Chief of Staff
    FACT wrote:
    See what I meant about being anonymous people behind our profiles? If our moderator Sir Miles hadn't let us know, people would still be debating the in's & out's of what "TheWizard" posted.

    We Mods do keep a check on all the threads on AJB - as best we can - but we do appreciate any help we can get when things either go 'wrong' or something just 'doesn't seem right'....
    ...in this case Dalkowski110 did bring this matter to my attention...and upon investigation, it was certain that TheWizard was another account opened by an already serving member here...this second account has been terminated, but the first has been left open....

    I hope that has cleared that up :)
    YNWA 97
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    Good on yer, Sir Miles. Not always the easiest of jobs, being a forum moderator - I speak from experience of seven or so years back when I use to do a shift on the website where I was working at the time.

    On a different topic, I was just looking at the GEF back order webpage and I noticed that, besides the Issue 75 (TSWLM Ford Taunus) I earlier mentioned and Issue 106 (DN Ford Consul) that Maz mentioned, there are now a few more issues that are NLA:

    Issue 77 - LALD Checker Marathon Taxi
    Issue 78 - OHMSS Mercedes 220S
    Issue 79 - QOS Range Rover Sport
    Issue 80 - GE GAZ Volga

    Interesting that they fall into that specific range. Here in South Africa we have just received Issue 79, so maybe this market has been depleting the UK stocks. It was mentioned on the French forum that all of the leftover French stock had been sent to South Africa when the distribution ended there a bit over a year ago. AFAIK the collection sells quite well here in RSA, although I don't remember any other of my fellow countrymen joining this particular thread (although some have been active here on AJB on other discussions).
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    FACT wrote:
    It was mentioned on the French forum that all of the leftover French stock had been sent to South Africa when the distribution ended there a bit over a year ago.

    Just idly speculating, but does anyone know if the collection was terminated early in Brazil? If so, anyone know where the stocks slated for it went? If South Africa has a shortage, that would seem a logical place. Thanks very much!
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • Leijo007Leijo007 Posts: 106MI6 Agent
    I didn't even know they had the collection in Brasil.

    Concerning the Dutch rumour (which was posted quite some time ago, by the way), I've said this before: I'll believe it when I see it, and not a second before.
  • james John Smythejames John Smythe Station N, Netherlands Posts: 162MI6 Agent
    Hi everyone,

    Just a quick message, I'm starting a new project with custom JBCC's, and for that I need:
    good quality side-pictures of the GAZ- volga from Goldeneye. If anyone can help me with that it would be great!

    For what, I hear you ask? Well, I hope this explains:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugIBGPC71Yg&feature=channel_video_title

    If people want to follow my project:
    http://www.modelautoforum.nl/viewtopic.php?f=98&t=18381&p=416375#p416375

    [edit] If people are interrested, I can open up a topic here in english?
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    "good quality side-pictures of the GAZ- volga from Goldeneye"

    I have multiple views of several angles of the same type of car (GAZ-31029 Volga Sedan) in the same color. Would this be of help, or do you mean the movie car only in its "post-damage" configuration? I'd very much like to follow your diorama, for what that's worth!

    If you mean the movie car itself, a minimum of two GAZ-31029's were used: one that appeared to have at least one of the headlights broken (whilst driving down the alley) and one that appeared to have them intact (the car that emerges from the alley). We get a good side view on each side, briefly, of the car with intact headlights, but the car with a broken headlight is never really seen from a good side view. At no point, unfortunately, do we get a good view of the rear of either car after it had been damaged.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • DokkDokk Posts: 382MI6 Agent
    Have any Subscribers rec'd #108 yet?????..... :# -{ :007)
  • BleuvilleBleuville Posts: 384MI6 Agent
    Dokk wrote:
    Have any Subscribers rec'd #108 yet?????..... :# -{ :007)

    On Friday 15th July I was waiting for 107 when the shop rang to say they had got 108 and that 107 had been put in the wrong drawer for 2 weeks! So I suddenly got 2 models at once.

    By the way if this JB Car Collection has been running over 4 years (March 2007) is it the longest running part work or are there others?

    Q. A thought occurred - When in DAF Blofeld (Charles Grey) speaks as Willard Whyte -("Yes Gov'nor I got your message") is that Jimmy Dean the actor speaking or someone else impersonating?

    Bleuville. "First a boy, then a girl ...." Tracy at the end of OHMSS.
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    TheWizard wrote:
    Good Evening !

    Stumbled upon your thread whilst checking out James Bond Car Collection online.

    The offical news is the collection will cease at 110 in the UK.

    Issue 108 and 109 to be delivered in August

    Issue 110 to be delivered in September with Replacement Issue 86 .

    This collection will not continue beyond 110. However with likely news of a further James Bond instalment an extention has not been ruled out though with current market place it is doubtful.

    The suggestions of issues and comments have been noted. Some great ideas.

    Lol if it was not for you pesky kids I
    Would have a got away with it.!!!!

    Ok let's clear up something, this was a conversation
    I had with a gefabbri member of staff last week. All that is written is all that was said.

    Seemingly it's a cardinal sin to set up another
    Account . For that I apologise but why you may
    Ask. To avid further spats with dalkowski.
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    No doubt I will get some lengthy reply from yours truly but unless we are talking die-cast or this collection I am
    Not interested.

    Back to my post. I think what is interesting is a further extention has not been ruled out. However it would seem
    A lack of a new film and Market conditions have dictated for
    The moment otherwise. I reckon a second collection will follow this on or after a release of a new film. I spoke briefly about this forum to GEFabbri and it would seem it is noted and ideas are being taken on board. So GEFabbri are watching and listening. I don't think there is any
    Surprises there.
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    Dokk wrote:
    Have any Subscribers rec'd #108 yet?????..... :# -{ :007)

    Not yet but historically I tend to get mine
    Not long after you. However you seem to have
    Yours earlier than timetabled by GEFabbri
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    Diecast007 wrote:
    Seemingly it's a cardinal sin to set up another Account.
    That would have gotten you a minimum of a one-week ban on the board where I used to moderate - but each board has its own rules.
    Diecast007 wrote:
    For that I apologise but why you may Ask. To avid further spats with dalkowski.
    I think the chances of us getting a further 20 issues of the JBCC are much more likely than avoiding a spat with Mr.D :v. But entering into a vigorous debate is a choice you make.

    Back to the collection ... 2 weeks to the Impala, 6 weeks to the DBS with damage! The end is nigh :(
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    A familiar friendly face.....

    To be honest and this is the truth I did not
    Realise I was doing something wrong. In fact when
    I left the forum I missed being involved with ongoing
    Discussions. I set up TheWizard to enjoy the forum
    Without the repercussions. As I said before in a previous
    Post we are essentially talking toy cars here. Not world
    Politics! . Forgive my posts as cannot access the forum from my home. Laughingly I have drive a hundred yards and access via my iPhone as my pc has been blocked access. Oh the criminal I am ....hilarious!
  • DokkDokk Posts: 382MI6 Agent
    Diecast007 wrote:
    A familiar friendly face.....

    To be honest and this is the truth I did not
    Realise I was doing something wrong. In fact when
    I left the forum I missed being involved with ongoing
    Discussions. I set up TheWizard to enjoy the forum
    Without the repercussions. As I said before in a previous
    Post we are essentially talking toy cars here. Not world
    Politics! . Forgive my posts as cannot access the forum from my home. Laughingly I have drive a hundred yards and access via my iPhone as my pc has been blocked access. Oh the criminal I am ....hilarious!


    We shall now enter your house & crush all your cars!!..." He's not the Wizard"!!.."He's a very naughty boy"!!!! :)) :)) -{ :007)
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited July 2011
    FACT wrote:
    I think the chances of us getting a further 20 issues of the JBCC are much more likely than avoiding a spat with Mr.D

    I hope you didn't put money down on that. :s
    Diecast007 wrote:
    Ok let's clear up something, this was a conversation
    I had with a gefabbri member of staff last week.

    But, as Kissy Suzuki pointed out, wasn't your statement contradictory? Not necessarily even meant as an indictment of you, either...if you say you're relaying something from Fabbri, why the bolded parts? Even if it's what he or she told you, you have to admit it's a bit vexing...

    "This collection will not continue beyond 110. However with likely news of a further James Bond instalment an extention has not been ruled out though with current market place it is doubtful."

    And then beginning your post as the wizard with something to the effect of "the collection will end at 110 in the UK" and ending it with how suggestions will be taken into condsideration? Are you sure this person was a G.E. Fabbri representative and not trying to take you for a ride/spread rumors?
    Diecast007 wrote:
    To be honest and this is the truth I did not
    Realise I was doing something wrong. In fact when
    I left the forum I missed being involved with ongoing
    Discussions. I set up TheWizard to enjoy the forum
    Without the repercussions. As I said before in a previous
    Post we are essentially talking toy cars here. Not world
    Politics! . Forgive my posts as cannot access the forum from my home. Laughingly I have drive a hundred yards and access via my iPhone as my pc has been blocked access. Oh the criminal I am ....hilarious!

    Welcome back under your real name. But look, on any forum you go to, even FACT conceded you'd receive some kind of disciplinary action for a "sock" account. If an IP block is what they have here...put it this way, if you're trying to blame me for your IP block, you're reaching. I didn't even ask for your second account to be IP blocked. I specifically asked for it to be removed, in fact. Other than that, I asked to a have cross-check done on your IP address because of your distinctive typing style.

    Believe it or not, I happen to moderate a forum myself. Under whatever technical conditions in existence there (since we use Yuku [a format I despise, but such is life]), a banned sock account certainly hasn't affected one's ability to connect with their other account. Perhaps the banned account could be deleted, which may restore your connectivity?
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    Thanks for the welcome back!
    Yes it would seem an ip block is in place
    Hence I am once again sat in my car accessing
    This website via my iPhone and car. Admittedly it
    Must look sus however all part of being a forum villain I
    Guess.
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    Sorry can only write so much then run out of space. Not looking to blame anyone really. However I am puzzled why
    My action bothered you so much to request my account be closed?? I do think ajb overreacted and mishandled the situation. I sent numerous emails and still awaiting a reply. I did manage to pm sir miles hence I think it is he I must thank to get back on here albeit from my car and not my pc in the comfort of my own home.
    That all said back to my psudo post.
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    TheWizard wrote:
    Good Evening !

    Stumbled upon your thread whilst checking out James Bond Car Collection online.

    The offical news is the collection will cease at 110 in the UK.

    Issue 108 and 109 to be delivered in August

    Issue 110 to be delivered in September with Replacement Issue 86 .

    This collection will not continue beyond 110. However with likely news of a further James Bond instalment an extention has not been ruled out though with current market place it is doubtful.

    The suggestions of issues and comments have been noted. Some great ideas.
    Ok does seem contradictory but read again. I think what is being said the collection is concluding but they are leavingtheir options open
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    In Australia, according to the Bissett website, issues 106-107 are scheduled for despatch on August 5th. So soon we should finally catch up with the UK! However, last month they had about a week's delay, which was due to port congestion in the eastern states caused by the recent industrial action by port workers.

    Welcome back, Diecast007. I am a member of a few forums (various subjects), but am not aware that any one of them bans multiple accounts. In fact I do have 2 accounts on at least one of the forums (don't ask why!). One of the admins is aware and doesn't mind.
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