James Bond Car Collection - Questions and praise

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  • myhandlemyhandle Posts: 124MI6 Agent
    Found on eBay - perhaps if the entire car was chromed - glazing, tyres etc - we might have our Vanish /
    Vanquish? I still think a clear plastic casting is the way forward, like the VW New Beetles available from VW in the late 90s. See what you think!

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Altaya-Aston-Martin-V12-Vanquish-2001-Chrome-1-43-NewBx-/120608892605?pt=UK_ToysGames_DiecastVehicles_DiecastVehicles_JN&hash=item1c14d9a6bd
  • james John Smythejames John Smythe Station N, Netherlands Posts: 162MI6 Agent
    What I meant by that is, what does that cambrige have that. for instane, the Rolls at #6 doesnt have?
    Besides that, let me edit the list you gave to make the most logical selections( AFAIK):

    1. Kenworth Truck Cab (Fine by me) I share that opinion and a lot of other members also, but I think the chance is very small, unfortunately...
    2. Aston Martin Vanquish "Vanish"
    3. Chevy 1-Ton Stakebed Truck
    4. Kerim Bey's Rolls-Royce Silver Wraith
    5. Mercedes-Benz 220S "Oddjob Car"
    6. Draco's Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow convertible
    7. Ford LVPD police car (blue/white)--Three stars
    8. Honda tricycle from Moonbuggy chase--Three stars ( Seeing as the Kawasaki already got negative reactions i doubt they will)
    9. AEC REGENT Bus without top deck
    10. 1973 Chevy Bel Air Louisiana State Police
    11. 1974 AMC Matador Sedan "Thai Police Car"
    12. FYEO 1974 Mercedes-Benz 450SEL
    13. 1977 Scaldia-Volga M24 Luxe Sedan
    14. American LaFrance Fire engine ( unfortunately, to big)
    15. Lincoln Mk. VII Coupe (Felix's Lincoln)
    16. Dodge Ram Pickup
    17. Utilimaster Aeromaster Van ( to big and to "forgettable" ;) )
    18. UAZ-469B/UAZ-31512 4x4
    19. VAZ-2106 Sedan St. Petersburg Militsia GAI
    20. BMW R1200C ( Same story as with the tricycle)

    So, theoreticly, that leaves 5 spots for Bond 23, or, if Í could decide, throw in the Niva with Brozzer, Lincoln Limo ór Convertible, the Impala( first ever "good guy-car" ) and keep 2 spaces for the main cars in B23...
  • james John Smythejames John Smythe Station N, Netherlands Posts: 162MI6 Agent
    edited August 2011
    myhandle wrote:
    Found on eBay - perhaps if the entire car was chromed - glazing, tyres etc - we might have our Vanish /
    Vanquish? I still think a clear plastic casting is the way forward, like the VW New Beetles available from VW in the late 90s. See what you think!

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Altaya-Aston-Martin-V12-Vanquish-2001-Chrome-1-43-NewBx-/120608892605?pt=UK_ToysGames_DiecastVehicles_DiecastVehicles_JN&hash=item1c14d9a6bd

    that car is one from a series of chromed sportscars by Atlas Editions. It also featured the Bugatty type 57 and a DB4/5 if i'm not mistaken. it's quite a "Charming trinket" for the Aston Martin collectors. :D
  • myhandlemyhandle Posts: 124MI6 Agent
    Thank you for the analysis all round - it's getting exciting!

    What it does show, if our good friends at the manufacturers are watching, is that there is a market for probably 30+ more models. They are doing a great job overall and judging by the activity on the board, people are going to be very excited by the new models. The prices of the Country Squire and Zil (among others) on eBay show that there is a fairly big demand.

    Looking forward to hearing confirmation of the invisible Vanish / Vanquish, the Wet Bike and Necros' Milk Float please!

    Happy collecting all!
  • james John Smythejames John Smythe Station N, Netherlands Posts: 162MI6 Agent
    By the way, I also had a thought about how to make the vanish one a good one:

    If they moulded it with one door open, like this:

    http://vadakkus.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/aston_martin_inviz.jpg

    They could as you said chrome the car, but have the interior visible. That would be swéét! :))
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    myhandle wrote:
    Found on eBay - perhaps if the entire car was chromed - glazing, tyres etc - we might have our Vanish /
    Vanquish?

    Maybe, but you'd need a complete snow diorama for it to work. It does allow you to get away with the screw holding it to the plinth, but I agree and think clear, sculpted, hollow plastic is the way to go.
    What I meant by that is, what does that cambrige have that. for instane, the Rolls at #6 doesnt have?

    Nothing. I'm not sure you understood my first post...I was merely pointing at moulds that Ixo was likely to recycle without getting too hung up on East Bloc models.
    Besides that, let me edit the list you gave to make the most logical selections( AFAIK):

    No, what I meant by using that list (which is NOT the list I'm hoping for) was to demonstrate the flaws of just using the "star system" employed by IMCDB; something anyone can edit. It gets some things right (if there's any way to include the Kenworth in 1/43 and the Vanish, I'd love to see those...the American LaFrance Fire Engine and LALD bus are pretty questionable due to size reasons and political fallout* and the motorbikes as well due to the reception of the Kawasaki from TSWLM received), but it gets others pretty seriously wrong. How, for example, do the Dodge M43 Ambulance and Wales & Edwards Rangemaster Milk Float get two stars whilst appearing on the screen not only for a long time, but also at multiple locations? Why does Felix Leiter's Chevy Impala, which was directly involved in a car chase, get two stars? Why does the Mercedes-Benz 180D not appear at all (and, in Oddjob's car's IMCDB entry, a few people actually call foul on this one!)? Also, regardless of your opinion on the Utilimaster Aeromaster, it's not too big. If you take Ixo's long case and Ixo's tall case, you could fit it in there.

    *The AEC Regent seems to have been rejected, unfortunately, because of the London bus bombings. I suppose they could review it, but I would guess its status stays the same because the same people seem to be running the show, so to speak.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • myhandlemyhandle Posts: 124MI6 Agent
    myhandle wrote:
    Found on eBay - perhaps if the entire car was chromed - glazing, tyres etc - we might have our Vanish /
    Vanquish? I still think a clear plastic casting is the way forward, like the VW New Beetles available from VW in the late 90s. See what you think!

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Altaya-Aston-Martin-V12-Vanquish-2001-Chrome-1-43-NewBx-/120608892605?pt=UK_ToysGames_DiecastVehicles_DiecastVehicles_JN&hash=item1c14d9a6bd

    that car is one from a series of chromed sportscars by Atlas Editions. It also featured the Bugatty type 57 and a DB4/5 if i'm not mistaken. it's quite a "Charming trinket" for the Aston Martin collectors. :D

    Yes, I agree the chrome range is not aimed at the connoisseur collecting, although I have seen a DBS in London on Dubai plates with a chrome wrap that looks quite similar in some regards, and this model would be a good representation of a chrome wrapped Vanquish - chrome or matt black wraps seem to be fleetingly in fashion with the Gumball Rally set at the moment.
    I digress though - in DAD when the car starts to appear on the railway truck in the tube station it looks a bit like a chromed car (for about 1 second), so this approach, with full chroming and maybe some printing on top of the chrome to show reflections, is an alternative to a clear plastic cast car - though I think the clear casting is the way to go.

    As for the specific model, this chromed Vanquish is based on the Ixo car. I have two examples of the silver Ixo Vanquish, and it's better than the UH Bond model. I also have the green Vitesse Vanquish, and the silver Minichamps Vanquish road car, and Minichamps Bond Vanquish. The Ixo car captures the look of the car best, closely followed by the Minichamps, which has a strangely high ride height. I have also seen pictures of a Norev Vanquish which looks OK, but not as good as the Minichamps one, and is about the same price. The Vitesse one is quite good but the headlight units need to be removed from the inside and painting matt black, and then the four lamps detailed in silver - from the factory the whole lamp unit is chromed and lets the model down somewhat. I am not an expert modeller by any means, but I managed this in 20 minutes and to a standard where you would never know it was not made the way it is now - so this is a good model to buy if you can spare 20 minutes!
  • myhandlemyhandle Posts: 124MI6 Agent
    By the way, I also had a thought about how to make the vanish one a good one:

    If they moulded it with one door open, like this:

    http://vadakkus.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/aston_martin_inviz.jpg

    They could as you said chrome the car, but have the interior visible. That would be swéét! :))

    Clever idea - I like it.
  • myhandlemyhandle Posts: 124MI6 Agent
    myhandle wrote:
    Found on eBay - perhaps if the entire car was chromed - glazing, tyres etc - we might have our Vanish /
    Vanquish?

    Maybe, but you'd need a complete snow diorama for it to work. It does allow you to get away with the screw holding it to the plinth, but I agree and think clear, sculpted, hollow plastic is the way to go.
    What I meant by that is, what does that cambrige have that. for instane, the Rolls at #6 doesnt have?

    Nothing. I'm not sure you understood my first post...I was merely pointing at moulds that Ixo was likely to recycle without getting too hung up on East Bloc models.
    Besides that, let me edit the list you gave to make the most logical selections( AFAIK):

    No, what I meant by using that list (which is NOT the list I'm hoping for) was to demonstrate the flaws of just using the "star system" employed by IMCDB; something anyone can edit. It gets some things right (if there's any way to include the Kenworth in 1/43 and the Vanish, I'd love to see those...the American LaFrance Fire Engine and LALD bus are pretty questionable due to size reasons and political fallout* and the motorbikes as well due to the reception of the Kawasaki from TSWLM received), but it gets others pretty seriously wrong. How, for example, do the Dodge M43 Ambulance and Wales & Edwards Rangemaster Milk Float get two stars whilst appearing on the screen not only for a long time, but also at multiple locations? Why does Felix Leiter's Chevy Impala, which was directly involved in a car chase, get two stars? Why does the Mercedes-Benz 180D not appear at all (and, in Oddjob's car's IMCDB entry, a few people actually call foul on this one!)? Also, regardless of your opinion on the Utilimaster Aeromaster, it's not too big. If you take Ixo's long case and Ixo's tall case, you could fit it in there.

    *The AEC Regent seems to have been rejected, unfortunately, because of the London bus bombings. I suppose they could review it, but I would guess its status stays the same because the same people seem to be running the show, so to speak.

    Thanks again Dalkowski, some good analysis! Let's hope Big Brother at the JBCC is watching (and we know they are - keep up the good work, and thanks, guys!)
  • james John Smythejames John Smythe Station N, Netherlands Posts: 162MI6 Agent
    If you ask me, it's more value-for-money that a piece of sculpted plastic ;)
    If they'd really wanted to make it perfet they should just supply us with an empty box TBH :D
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited August 2011
    myhandle wrote:
    As for the specific model, this chromed Vanquish is based on the Ixo car. I have two examples of the silver Ixo Vanquish, and it's better than the UH Bond model.

    After looking at the picture supplied by james John Smythe...I do think that IF they do the night scene with the "Vanish," a chromed car would work. And...chalk up another re-used Ixo mould, too (albeit to great affect)! True, if they gave us an empty box, it would be accurate...but how well-received would it be?
    myhandle wrote:
    Thanks again Dalkowski, some good analysis! Let's hope Big Brother at the JBCC is watching (and we know they are - keep up the good work, and thanks, guys!)

    Thanks! Hope you're taking notes, guys at Fabbri! Sorry I got info that you evidently wanted silent from one of your pals! :o

    If you want MY wishlist...the 20 cars I want the most (and face it...I think we can post our own wishlists as well as the master list so long as we A) take from the master list, B) allow for at least one Bond 23 car, and C) don't diss one another)...well, here it is, coming from Mr. Car-Centric and factoring in Ixo's need to recycle moulds. But don't let that fool you. I'm sticking to 1/43, but that's about it...

    FREE GIFT: Aston Martin Vanquish "Vanish" (alternately, swap with Kenworth Cab if unable to do that with a 1/43 diorama)

    1. DN 1959 Austin A55 Cambridge Mk. II Jamaican Taxi (with Bond in the back driving down to the docks)
    2. DN 1961 Chevy Impala Four-Door Sedan (Felix's Car, in hot pursuit of the '57 Chevy Bel Air)
    3. FRWL Chevy 1-Ton Stakebed Truck (More than anything, with Tanya in the back, Bond at the wheel, and the SPECTRE thug in the passenger seat)
    4. GF Mercedes-Benz 180D "Chase Car" (Gunman firing out the passenger side window at least)
    5. GF Dodge M43 Ambulance (With the control panel flipped down and Kish operating it to bring the laser up, even though the laser isn't up)
    6. GF Willys Jeep (Must have correct, VERY good figures, since we know what diorama it would get stuck on...)
    7. TB 1964 Lincoln Continental Lehmann-Peterson Limousine (Without any figures actually in the car, but Jacques Bouvar walking away from the car...remember, Bond is tipped off that it's just a guy in drag vs. a society lady because he opens the door himself)
    8. OHMSS Draco's Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow convertible (With Bond and Tracy in the back and Draco's chauffeur driving with Draco in the passenger's seat)
    9. DAF Ford LVPD police car (blue/white) (Screamin' down the Las Vegas strip after Bond's Clydesdale, err, I mean Mustang)
    10. LALD 1973 Chevy Bel Air Louisiana State Police (With Sheriff Pepper shouting out the back window to the Mack AB oyster truck driver as the state troopers roll their eyes)
    11. FYEO 1974 Mercedes-Benz 450SEL (We already know we're getting this...maybe on a ledge with Locque hangin' out the window grasping Roger Moore's tie?)
    12. OP 1977 (SECOND GENERATION) Scaldia-Volga M24 Luxe Sedan (Chasing after the train with Soviet Army chauffeur and General Orlov with his best lunatic face on...hope they do a paper flag on this car and not an all-plastic one)
    13. TLD Wales & Edwards Rangemaster Milk Float (With no one actually in the milk float, but Necros picking up exploding milk bottles off the cargo bed.)
    14. LTK Kenworth Truck Cab (Only if it can be done in 1/43, with Bond just having released his trailer onto the truck below)
    15. LTK Lincoln Mk. VII Coupe (With Bond in the driver's seat, Felix's house in the background.)
    16. GE UAZ-469B/UAZ-31512 4x4 (Four Russian soldiers in it, top down. Two firing their AK-74's at Bond, one driver, one guy panicking [watch the film again and the look on his face when Bond stops].)
    17. GE VAZ-2106 Sedan St. Petersburg Militsia GAI (We know we're getting it...braking hard to avoid the dozen-vehicle pile-up with two rather shocked-looking Militsoners in the front seat)
    18. TWINE Lada Niva (With Pierce Brosnan in the driver's seat and visible, dead Davidov in the trunk)
    19. CR Ford Mondeo (No driver because you can't put one in, decent diorama. Maybe have it parked?)
    20. Bond 23 Bond's Car

    Counting the Vanish, Ixo gets to re-use or partially re-use ELEVEN moulds here, by the way. I'm trying to make it easy on them to concentrate on the figures and dioramas.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • james John Smythejames John Smythe Station N, Netherlands Posts: 162MI6 Agent
    Well, if it comes down to the wish-list:

    111. DN 1961 Chevrolet Impala Four-Door Sedan, nicely described by D110.
    112. FRWL Chevy 1-Ton Stakebed Truck, On the pier or in the "mountains" evading the helicopter.
    113. FRWL Kerim Bey's Rolls-Royce Silver Wraith, chauffeuring bond to Kerim with the Citroen in the background.
    114. GF Merc 180 bad guys pursuit car, In full chase after the DB5.
    115. TB 1965 Lincoln Continental 4-door convertible, Parked outside Palmyra.
    116. OHMSS Draco's Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow convertible, Dropping of Bond at Gumbolds.
    117. DAF Ford LVPD police car (blue/white) Seconds away from crasing into a wall :))
    118. LALD AEC REGENT III, On the wooden pier.
    119. LALD Sheriff Pepper's Chevrolet Impala either on the embankment, or, even more interresting, behind the louisiana sign!)
    120. FYEO 1974 Mercedes-Benz 450SEL, On the cliff, of course.
    121. OP 1977 (i.e. second generation) Scaldia-Volga M24 Luxe Sedan, júst crossing the railway ( would be better than just another plain piece of road).
    122. LTK Kenworth, doing the 2-wheel( or 3, actually) stunt just before it crushes the Jeep.
    123. LTK Lincoln Mk. VII Coupe (Bond's rental Lincoln?) Outside the Airport or at Felix'.
    124. GAZ-469B/UAZ-31512 4x4 júst coming out of the destroyed passage and almost crasing througt the rail into the water.
    124. GE VAZ-2106 Sedan St. Petersburg Militsia GAI, evading Bond's Tank.
    125. TWINE Lada Niva, Even better one: Davidov standing outside, seconds away from getting kicked in the face by Bond. {[]
    126. DAD Invisible Aston Martin Vanquish, as described earlier, at night at the diamond mine with the door open.
    127. A newcomer: Cr. tanker truck, battered under the wing of the Skyfleet prototype.
    128. CR Ford Mondeo, parked in the Ocean Club lot, with staff members running around on the background.
    129. B23
    130. B23 Bond's car.

    There you go ;)
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Awesome list! Can I just suggest one alteration (not dissing here...this is based on the movie itself)?
    117. DAF Ford LVPD police car (blue/white) Seconds away from crasing into a wall

    It was the LV Sheriff's car (black/white) that crashed into a wall. Come to think of it, that would make an equally awesome diorama. Most of the blue/white cars were totalled and/or just stuck in the parking lot and some hit other police cars. You could of course change the car's paint scheme and door emblem, since the car itself is the same.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • scurr01scurr01 AustraliaPosts: 59MI6 Agent
    By the way, I also had a thought about how to make the vanish one a good one:

    If they moulded it with one door open, like this:

    http://vadakkus.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/aston_martin_inviz.jpg

    They could as you said chrome the car, but have the interior visible. That would be swéét! :))

    or just paint the entire car to blend in with the background like the "leap of faith" bridge in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Viewed from the correct angle it would seem to vanish- but seriously, I for one could live without the invisible Vanquish.
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    edited August 2011
    Wow! Good to see so much positive discussion over the wish list - some great diorama suggestions too! Just to avoid any confusion as far as Fabbri are concerned, here is the updated 'master' wishlist for them:


    DN 1961 Chevrolet Impala Four-Door Sedan (This was Felix's Chase Car)
    FRWL Chevy 1-Ton Stakebed Truck
    FRWL Kerim Bey's Rolls-Royce Silver Wraith
    GF Merc 180 bad guys pursuit car
    GF Merc 220S Odd Job car
    GF WW2 Willys Jeep
    TB 1964 Lincoln Continental Lehmann-Peterson stretch limo
    TB 1965 Lincoln Continental 4-door convertible (top up)
    TB Fiona Volpe's BSA motorcycle
    TB Bomb Sled with Tow Sled outriders
    YOLT 1964 Dodge Polara 500 Sedan
    OHMSS 1968 Ford Escort Mk. I Rallye
    OHMSS Draco's Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow convertible
    DAF Ford LVPD police car (blue/white)
    DAF 1971 Ford Thunderbird
    DAF Honda tricycle from Moonbuggy chase
    DAF Bathosub
    LALD AEC REGENT Bus without top deck
    LALD Power boat crashed into side of Sheriff Pepper's car
    LALD 1973 Chevy Bel Air Louisiana State Police
    TMWTGG 1974 AMC Matador Sedan "Thai Police Car"
    MR Shuttle
    MR Cable Car
    FYEO 1974 Mercedes-Benz 450SEL
    OP 1977 (i.e. second generation) Scaldia-Volga M24 Luxe Sedan
    AVTAK American LaFrance Fire engine
    AVTAK 1984 Jeep Cherokee
    TLD Audi 200 Avant (but please a real 200 and no Audi V8 clone)
    TLD Wales & Edwards Rangemaster Milk Float
    TLD 59 Chevy Impala Convertible/ Street Rod
    LTK Kenworth
    LTK Lincoln Mk. VII Coupe (Felix's Lincoln)
    LTK Dodge Ram Pickup
    LTK Utilimaster Aeromaster Van
    GE UAZ-469B/UAZ-31512 4x4
    GE VAZ-2106 Sedan St. Petersburg Militsia GAI
    GE Cagiva 350 with Bond on it (chasing the plane)
    TND BMW R1200C bike
    TWINE Lada Niva
    DAD Invisible Aston Martin Vanquish
    DAD Rocket sled
    CR Tanker Truck, battered under the wing of the Skyfleet prototype.
    CR Ford Mondeo
    CR 2005 Škoda Octavia Police


    Again, anybody who wants to add to this list is welcome to copy, paste and post :)
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Having been inspired by the announcement of the GF M-43 Dodge (weapons carrier) ambulance, I'm going to stick my neck out here and plead the case for a GF Willys 1940's WW2 Jeep.

    Great idea, especially if Ixo includes figures! There's only one downside to the diorama: in the film, it got the most screen time on that dirt road by Ixo that everyone (including myself) by now really dislikes. However, if it comes with figures, I would imagine you could negate some of this, plus you could save Ixo development time (they've done Jeeps not only for Atlas Military, but one WWII surplus Jeep inexplicably appears in La Route Bleue! That was actually the first LRB diorama I got because I love the idea of military surplus vehicles!). I think it would be a nice edition and Ixo, as usual, could re-use the mould.

    As a total fool for WW2 Willys Jeeps (I seriously considered buying a real one once) I'd be more than happy if it appeared on a dirt road base - although a strip of grass at the back would be nice if they can run to it. Figures would be great.
    I'm sure they could get huge mileage out of the mould, not only by creating some of the WW2 allied variants but also by going down the Hotchkiss route too, with all the countries that used that version :)
  • Leijo007Leijo007 Posts: 106MI6 Agent
    I'd like the GE Cagiva 350 with Bond on it (chasing the plane).
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Leijo007 wrote:
    I'd like the GE Cagiva 350 with Bond on it (chasing the plane).

    Done :)
  • WinnieWinnie Posts: 129MI6 Agent
    How about adding to the list, the Wetbike from TSWLM with James Bond figure in naval uniform and the Bobsleds from OHMSS, either Bond or Blofeld.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited August 2011
    Some great ideas, but would like to see personal wishlists and predictions for the next 17 (since we know what three of them are going to be...although feel free to suggest figures and dioramas! Yes, I know this makes it harder, but that's the whole point!). Just one thing to be aware of, I think: I really doubt Ixo will feature "really dented up" moulds or even moulds with the doors open on the ones they plan to re-use. Dirt? That'll be there. Scratches? Yeah, that too. Minor dents? They've done it before, though not extensive denting. It would be awesome if they did SERIOUS, banged-to-heck dents, especially, but I don't think they will. That being said, I think they'll have figures and their dioramas will improve.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited August 2011
    As a total fool for WW2 Willys Jeeps (I seriously considered buying a real one once) I'd be more than happy if it appeared on a dirt road base - although a strip of grass at the back would be nice if they can run to it. Figures would be great.
    I'm sure they could get huge mileage out of the mould, not only by creating some of the WW2 allied variants but also by going down the Hotchkiss route too, with all the countries that used that version.

    They already have the mould, but haven't utilized it to its fullest extent. With that said, I've seen some truly awesome Code 3's based on that mould (not just Cararama). A really early Jeep CJ and brush firefighting Jeep come to mind. Yes, they could do Hotchkiss, plus I also imagine they could do the Free French and Lend Lease Soviet Jeeps of WWII, a captured WWII German Jeep (for which I have plenty of pictures!), and I think only minor mould alterations would allow them to go the Ford "Vietnam Era" route, as well. BTW, can you add the DN 1959 Austin A55 Cambridge Jamaican Taxi to the master list? :)
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Updated Master List:

    DN 1961 Chevrolet Impala Four-Door Sedan (This was Felix's Chase Car)
    DN 1959 Austin A55 Cambridge Jamaican Taxi
    FRWL Chevy 1-Ton Stakebed Truck
    FRWL Kerim Bey's Rolls-Royce Silver Wraith
    GF Merc 180 bad guys pursuit car
    GF Merc 220S Odd Job car
    GF WW2 Willys Jeep
    TB 1964 Lincoln Continental Lehmann-Peterson stretch limo
    TB 1965 Lincoln Continental 4-door convertible (top up)
    TB Fiona Volpe's BSA motorcycle
    TB Bomb Sled with Tow Sled outriders
    YOLT 1964 Dodge Polara 500 Sedan
    OHMSS 1968 Ford Escort Mk. I Rallye
    OHMSS Draco's Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow convertible
    OHMSS Bobsleds
    DAF Ford LVPD police car (blue/white)
    DAF 1971 Ford Thunderbird
    DAF Honda tricycle from Moonbuggy chase
    DAF Bathosub
    LALD AEC REGENT Bus without top deck
    LALD Power boat crashed into side of Sheriff Pepper's car
    LALD 1973 Chevy Bel Air Louisiana State Police
    TMWTGG 1974 AMC Matador Sedan "Thai Police Car"
    TSWLM Wetbike with RM figure
    MR Shuttle
    MR Cable Car
    FYEO 1974 Mercedes-Benz 450SEL
    OP 1977 (i.e. second generation) Scaldia-Volga M24 Luxe Sedan
    AVTAK American LaFrance Fire engine
    AVTAK 1984 Jeep Cherokee
    TLD Audi 200 Avant (but please a real 200 and no Audi V8 clone)
    TLD Wales & Edwards Rangemaster Milk Float
    TLD 59 Chevy Impala Convertible/ Street Rod
    LTK Kenworth
    LTK Lincoln Mk. VII Coupe (Felix's Lincoln)
    LTK Dodge Ram Pickup
    LTK Utilimaster Aeromaster Van
    GE UAZ-469B/UAZ-31512 4x4
    GE VAZ-2106 Sedan St. Petersburg Militsia GAI
    GE Cagiva 350 with Bond on it (chasing the plane)
    TND BMW R1200C bike
    TWINE Lada Niva
    DAD Invisible Aston Martin Vanquish
    DAD Rocket sled
    CR Tanker Truck, battered under the wing of the Skyfleet prototype.
    CR Ford Mondeo
    CR 2005 Škoda Octavia Police


    Anybody who wants to add to this list is welcome to copy, paste and post :)
  • DokkDokk Posts: 382MI6 Agent
    Having been inspired by the announcement of the GF M-43 Dodge (weapons carrier) ambulance, I'm going to stick my neck out here and plead the case for a GF Willys 1940's WW2 Jeep.

    Great idea, especially if Ixo includes figures! There's only one downside to the diorama: in the film, it got the most screen time on that dirt road by Ixo that everyone (including myself) by now really dislikes. However, if it comes with figures, I would imagine you could negate some of this, plus you could save Ixo development time (they've done Jeeps not only for Atlas Military, but one WWII surplus Jeep inexplicably appears in La Route Bleue! That was actually the first LRB diorama I got because I love the idea of military surplus vehicles!). I think it would be a nice edition and Ixo, as usual, could re-use the mould.



    As a total fool for WW2 Willys Jeeps (I seriously considered buying a real one once) I'd be more than happy if it appeared on a dirt road base - although a strip of grass at the back would be nice if they can run to it. Figures would be great.
    I'm sure they could get huge mileage out of the mould, not only by creating some of the WW2 allied variants but also by going down the Hotchkiss route too, with all the countries that used that version :)


    I maybe wrong!!,but did Willy's Jeep not appear as issue 46... :s -{ :007)
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
    There are more expert than me who wil no doubt confirm/deny but I think that the Jeep already done is actually a modern Indian Mahindra rather than a Willys. Certainly my friend who collects military models was very pleased to get hold of that variant to add to his collection of jeeps.

    List looks awesome some of those US cars are going to fly on EBay although Neo are starting to cover this period thay are way more expensive though lovely. At the moment there is a lack of 1/43 US vehicles from 70's/80s at budget diecast level.

    My guess - and it hasnt scored high recently so I may be horribly wrong - is that the Austin Cambridge taxi is a racing cert. IXO have only used it once on the Route Bleu so it is overdue another outing and taxi fittings can be used again in another way I am sure.
  • Rainier WolfcastleRainier Wolfcastle Posts: 484MI6 Agent
    And as long as Fabbri includes not-so-demanded models like another boring Lada[...]
    You don't have to beat a dead horse. We're no longer arguing; I've quit, the other side's quit, and we're trying to get back on track. There isn't a need for this unless the model comes out and actually proves deficient.
    But you raise a point about "Not-so-demanded". To which I say: what about the Lada Niva from TWINE that multiple people were asking for a couple pages back? Or "one of those Russian Jeeps from GE" (UAZ-469B/UAZ-31512)? I don't think that would be fair to FACT (who long championed the Lada Niva...certainly before I came along), maz, or Jag as well who said he'd like to see several of the Soviet cars as opposed to me alone. Am I asking for these cars the most? Yes, I admit that. Am I the only person asking for them at all? No.
    First, I would like to say that you don't quote me correct as I wrote "models like another boring Lada :v" which was clearly marked as ironic and not meant to be taken seriously.
    And I did not mean that the GAI Lada should not be included - in fact I quite like the car. We already had a Lada police car but this had a completely different livery and was laser-cut in half (which as a diorama I like a lot but can also imagine that many people would have preferred a normal car), so the Militsia version is not a simple rehash. And although I don't collect them myself I can well understand why emergency vehicles are widely collected, with their special paint schemes, stripes, lettering, lights and sirens.
    That said, I just thought that the GAI Lada could not be one of „the most demanded models“, as I think these surely must be the FRWL Chevrolet truck and the LALD Sheriff Pepper or State Trooper cars aside from the 450SEL.

    To UAZ and Niva: I think a UAZ has to be included – UAZ and the Volga do have that certain "evil" Red Army and KGB aura which fits well into a James Bond collection. The Niva and the Lada sedans did not have this sinister image, as they were regularly sold in Western Europe and a common sight. (I didn't know that Volgas were built in Belgium, so probably were more often seen in Benelux and the UK but not where I live.) So I would gladly have a UAZ but do not necessarily need a Niva - would not be disappointed if we get one, though.
    What I think we clearly don't need is the OP Volga. Yes, the car has different bumpers and lights but another black Volga is repetitive. And it's not because it's an east-block car: the same situation is with Leiter's Thunderbird. You say we don't need it (and I agree completely) because it's such an easy code 3 to make Largo's T-Bird - change the licence plates and you have it. In reality Largo's '65 has a different grille, front emblem, side trim, taillights, and it would have to be fitted with fender skirts which have to match the complex body contour lines - all but easy. But in the end you have a white T-Bird which looks just like the one before - the same applies to another black Volga.
    I also have to say that I am not the biggest fan of a WW2 Willy's Jeep. We had a green M606 Jeep already, and it was hardly one of the most memorable of cars or dioramas. Again: a different, newer Jeep version but overall pretty much the same car.

    As for my personal wish list and predictions: I hope that we will cars where you don't have to watch the film again to see where they appeared. Cars were you instantly know in which scene they featured. A very good example is the laser-cannon Dodge. Bad examples are the Ford Consul and Anglia or the Dr. No taxi, and both LALD Impalas. Remember, someone posted that he'd found the first #109 Impala on Ebay but in reality it was just the Impala convertible #54. So this one can't be the most exciting model, and these two cars are hardly remembered from the film. I just hope that both truly memorable LALD cars - Sheriff Pepper's and the State Trooper - will finally be included.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    maz wrote:
    There are more expert than me who wil no doubt confirm/deny but I think that the Jeep already done is actually a modern Indian Mahindra rather than a Willys.

    Correct (although I consider myself no more of an expert than you). It's a pre-1968 Mahindra CJ-3B. After 1968, they were all right-hand drive. Although licensed from Kaiser-Jeep, many parts (including the grille and fenders) are completely different ande the CJ-3B itself was not only assembled in India, but the parts were manufactured there (i.e. it was not a complete knockdown kit). The diorama is not correctly labelled.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    If the OP Jeep was anything like an interesting model, I wouldn't be supporting the case for a decent new GF Willys version. But just look at the comparison photos below of our familiar OP (non-WW2 Willys) offering and a current model of a proper WW2 Willys produced by IXO:

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    I think only a blind person wouldn't appreciate the difference! If we can have something as well made as the IXO, of a vehicle so famous, for only £7.99 then I'd be all for it even if I wasn't a great fan of Jeeps :)

    I agree about the UAZ-31512 too, its type is very familiar from many movies as a sinister presence, not just Bond movies, so it's fine by me.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited August 2011
    I agree about the UAZ-31512 too, its type is very familiar from many movies as a sinister presence, not just Bond movies, so it's fine by me.

    Hence why the "guys firing assault rifles" is my favorite variant on this diorama, though I don't mind james John Smythe's selection so long as we see Russian Army personnel through the windows.
    And it's not because it's an east-block car: the same situation is with Leiter's Thunderbird. You say we don't need it (and I agree completely) because it's such an easy code 3 to make Largo's T-Bird - change the licence plates and you have it. In reality Largo's '65 has a different grille, front emblem, side trim, taillights, and it would have to be fitted with fender skirts which have to match the complex body contour lines - all but easy. But in the end you have a white T-Bird which looks just like the one before - the same applies to another black Volga.

    Firstly, sorry about the misunderstanding. Second, I could live without this car, though wouldn't mind seeing it. But the comparison isn't correct. It's objecting to two cars just because they're called the same thing. It would be like objecting to Oddjob's Mercedes-Benz 220S simply because it's called a 220S and we've seen Irma Bunt's much later model.

    It's an entirely different automobile. The domestic GAZ-24 Volga borrowed design elements of the Australian Ford Falcon and mixed them up with Volvo. It began with the first generation (no bumper overriders) in 1970 and then ran into the second generation (main external difference: bumper overriders) in 1977. The Volga then diverged two ways in 1985: the GAZ-24-10 Volga that lasted until 1992 and was a direct descendant of the GAZ-24 Second Series and the GAZ-3102 Volga, which had a completely redesigned body, though was somewhat similar aft of the B-pillar. That design changed even further with the introduction of the GAZ-31029 Volga in late 1991, which featured a distinctly more modernized and rounded body, even aft of the B-pillar. Granted, a GAZ-3102 (which we did see in TLD) would be somewhat redundant, but a GAZ-24 (first or second generation) would be completely different. It would be like calling the Ford Edge redundant because we saw a Ford Ka. Boring to you or not, it's not redundant. In fact, the VAZ-2106 they've announced is MUCH closer to the Lada 1500 (VAZ-2103) that got cut in half than the Scaldia-Volga M24 and GAZ-31029.

    But they say a picture is worth a thousand words. So ultimately, you have this car...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gaz-24-2nd-generation-front.jpg

    ...vs. this car...

    http://img.ria.ua/photos/auto/photo/2753/275316/27531697/27531697bx.jpg

    (Images changed only to show more detail, and yes, I know the hubcaps are different on the movie car)
    As for my personal wish list and predictions: I hope that we will cars where you don't have to watch the film again to see where they appeared. Cars were you instantly know in which scene they featured. A very good example is the laser-cannon Dodge. Bad examples are the Ford Consul and Anglia or the Dr. No taxi, and both LALD Impalas.

    I respectfully disagree based on the grounds that not only do people have favorite cars, but favorite scenes and favorite films. Saying that the latter LALD Impala was forgettable (the former was) is really subjective because I remember that car clear as day, as did others who pointed out very quickly that it was NOT Harold Strutter's car and that it in fact belonged to the villain who eventually met a firey end when his speedboat slammed into a derelict LST. On the flipside, I barely remember Sheriff Pepper's car (mostly because we get shots of the driver's side window) and really remember the State Trooper variant well.

    And what about TMWTGG? Why so few suggestions from that film? Perhaps because a lot of people didn't particularly like it. Yet, the 1974 AMC Matador Sedan as a Thai police car is quite memorable to me. I liked the car chase and I liked the island showdown, but that was about it. On the other hand, I can remember virtually no cars from Quantum of Solace because I disliked the film. I remember the Alfas, the Aston, and the Beetle. Nothing else (including the Ford Bronco II, which despite playing decent-sized role, I totally missed).

    How about the universally-panned DAF? I actually liked that film and can remember almost all of the cars in it. But most people are going to remember VERY few cars from that film, no matter what role they played.

    And what about LTK? I liked the film (and it had a number of memorable vehicles with large roles) because I thought highly of Dalton's Bond, but considering how many people actually saw it or criticized it for being "James Bond does Miami Vice", will even the super-memorable Kenworth be all that remembered to someone who's seen all the films and just didn't like LTK?

    And what about the mass of unenlightened individuals that hate OHMSS but like Bond in both Connery and Dalton forms? Do you think they would remember Draco's Rolls-Royce? That was not only one of the three most prominent cars in the entire film, but it almost surpasses the Aston Martin (albeit not the Cougar)!

    How about people that don't like/refuse to watch Roger Moore's later films? Should we neglect them entirely? Should we just nix AVTAK because not too terribly many people liked it and likely couldn't name a single car in the film (including the Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud II)?

    My point here is that saying "just do the memorable ones" is that it's just too subjective. You'd get everyone placing their most memorable cars whilst potentially neglecting films or scenes they either didn't like or just didn't catch their interest, despite a given car playing a big role in said movie or scene. They have to be memorable within the context of the film...not quite IMCDB's star rating system, but they are at least on the right track. Like it or not, the Ford Consul got quite a bit of screen time in DN. It is not "unmemorable" just because you say it's unmemorable and people can't place it. I don't say that out of any kind of spite...I'm just saying it because it's far too subjective an assumption to make. We had people that remembered it right off the bat, as well. The scene I remembered it for was it showing up at Miss Taro's house and her spitting out the window in Bond's face. Admit it...that wouldn't have made a bad diorama had they provided figures and a proper road.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    If the OP Jeep was anything like an interesting model, I wouldn't be supporting the case for a decent new GF Willys version.

    I thought it was an interesting model that was actually well-done (paint was too light), but Mahindras are NOT the slick-looking classics that the WWII Willys Jeeps were. I know at least one guy who owns an original Willys CJ (the civilian version with the tires mounted on the side, but otherwise identical to WWII) and I was told the derogatory moniker for the Mahindras as a whole is "Sleepy" or "Sleepy Jeep" because of the darkened top of the headlights. Bodywork has also been criticized as crude and the rather "blah" looking back end was a mechanical simplification. In short, a good model of an ugly vehicle; while I like it myself, the WWII Jeep is liable to appeal to far more people.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    edited August 2011
    If the OP Jeep was anything like an interesting model, I wouldn't be supporting the case for a decent new GF Willys version.

    I thought it was an interesting model that was actually well-done (paint was too light), but Mahindras are NOT the slick-looking classics that the WWII Willys Jeeps were. I know at least one guy who owns an original Willys CJ (the civilian version with the tires mounted on the side, but otherwise identical to WWII) and I was told the derogatory moniker for the Mahindras as a whole is "Sleepy" or "Sleepy Jeep" because of the darkened top of the headlights. Bodywork has also been criticized as crude and the rather "blah" looking back end was a mechanical simplification. In short, a good model of an ugly vehicle; while I like it myself, the WWII Jeep is liable to appeal to far more people.

    A case of poorly chosen words at the time of posting! I totally agree the Mahindra has interest as a Willys derivative, but echoing what you say, it's not really any kind of substitute for a locked and loaded WW2 Willys Jeep as I think the photo comparison I posted shows. Perhaps the OP Jeep being 'bland' or 'less than exciting' might've been a better description in terms of comparison? Either way, I still think there's room for a well modelled WW2 Jeep, especially when (in my opinion) there's already been plenty of less deserving repetition in the series - 2 similar Rollers, similar Daimler & XJ8, 2 similar late model Range Rovers........
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