James Bond Car Collection - Questions and praise

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  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    D110, in this case I think it's too late to change the 109 & 110 order - the magazine for the Econoline has already announced the Impala Coupe as the next model with Issue 109 - see:
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260830664975
    I cannot remember GEF ever not delivering what was announced on the inside back page of an issue.

    Well, either way, Issue 109 is due to hit the UK newsstands the day after tomorrow.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    FACT wrote:
    I cannot remember GEF ever not delivering what was announced on the inside back page of an issue.

    Point taken. I just find it strange that nothing...not even the "slightly defectives" on dioramas we're used to seeing leak out maybe a week or two early from Ixo...was indeed leaked out. I suppose you're right. As I said, it was a longshot of a theory. It's not completely unprecedented in that Ixo has done it before (twice) in other partworks to improve the actual quality of the car in one case and because there was an error in giving the contact address of the publisher in the magazine with another, but you're right...it's HIGHLY unlikely.

    With that said, we know it was under development for QUITE a while...I am wondering if we don't get the same old diorama and possibly a figure. But then, Ixo may have just worked out some perceived issues they had with mould details.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • myhandlemyhandle Posts: 124MI6 Agent
    Once again, I refer you to the Jaguar / Daimler X350 / X300 mess from Quantum of Solace. It was much more wrong than this Thunderbird, as even the casting itself was entirely wrong. It really isn't good enough to knowingly churn out completely wrong collectors' models.
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    myhandle wrote:
    Once again, I refer you to the Jaguar / Daimler X350 / X300 mess from Quantum of Solace. It was much more wrong than this Thunderbird, as even the casting itself was entirely wrong. It really isn't good enough to knowingly churn out completely wrong collectors' models.

    I agree with this entirely. Yes The Jaguar was much more wrong than this Thunderbird however my point is the Thunderbird is an existing model issue rehashed (badly) and presented as a new issue to the collection. The Audi, Aston and Jag were all independent issues albeit bad issues. Like i said there is probably fault in every issue but this Thunderbird I feel is a bit cheeky. Re issueing a past release dressed up as a new release and then charging us for the priviledge. For the loyal subscribers this is taking us for granted. There is a number us who will stick with this to the end but that should not be an excuse to produce a substandard product. In my opinion this should be withdrawn as an issue offered as a free gift to subscribers and offered at the usual price via the website to non subscribers. This could make best a bad model .
  • myhandlemyhandle Posts: 124MI6 Agent
    Diecast007 wrote:
    myhandle wrote:
    Once again, I refer you to the Jaguar / Daimler X350 / X300 mess from Quantum of Solace. It was much more wrong than this Thunderbird, as even the casting itself was entirely wrong. It really isn't good enough to knowingly churn out completely wrong collectors' models.

    I agree with this entirely. Yes The Jaguar was much more wrong than this Thunderbird however my point is the Thunderbird is an existing model issue rehashed (badly) and presented as a new issue to the collection. The Audi, Aston and Jag were all independent issues albeit bad issues. Like i said there is probably fault in every issue but this Thunderbird I feel is a bit cheeky. Re issueing a past release dressed up as a new release and then charging us for the priviledge. For the loyal subscribers this is taking us for granted. There is a number us who will stick with this to the end but that should not be an excuse to produce a substandard product. In my opinion this should be withdrawn as an issue offered as a free gift to subscribers and offered at the usual price via the website to non subscribers. This could make best a bad model .

    100% Correct. Agreed. If this issue can be withdrawn, it should be, as it does not accurately depict any car seen in a Bond film.
  • dickiebartdickiebart Posts: 220MI6 Agent
    myhandle wrote:
    Diecast007 wrote:
    myhandle wrote:
    Once again, I refer you to the Jaguar / Daimler X350 / X300 mess from Quantum of Solace. It was much more wrong than this Thunderbird, as even the casting itself was entirely wrong. It really isn't good enough to knowingly churn out completely wrong collectors' models.

    I agree with this entirely. Yes The Jaguar was much more wrong than this Thunderbird however my point is the Thunderbird is an existing model issue rehashed (badly) and presented as a new issue to the collection. The Audi, Aston and Jag were all independent issues albeit bad issues. Like i said there is probably fault in every issue but this Thunderbird I feel is a bit cheeky. Re issueing a past release dressed up as a new release and then charging us for the priviledge. For the loyal subscribers this is taking us for granted. There is a number us who will stick with this to the end but that should not be an excuse to produce a substandard product. In my opinion this should be withdrawn as an issue offered as a free gift to subscribers and offered at the usual price via the website to non subscribers. This could make best a bad model .

    100% Correct. Agreed. If this issue can be withdrawn, it should be, as it does not accurately depict any car seen in a Bond film.

    I agree. I don't remember this car from the film at all, it really is a total rip-off and just one less they now have to actually think about, all while taking another few €£$ from us. Watch the scene and all the surrounding parked cars and ones passing by would have been more memorable.
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  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    myhandle wrote:
    Watch the scene and all the surrounding parked cars and ones passing by would have been more memorable.

    In that case, can Ixo turn out the black Peugeot 403 that cruised slowly by where it looked like the driver (who was obviously NOT part of the film) stared directly into the camera? I mean, we've not had one and they're beautiful cars, plus you wouldn't have to pay the guy anything for his likeness and even the magazine would have something new to write about (i.e. how people get caught in movie scenes, plus the car itself)... I kid, I kid. :)) :D :s
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    There was also a nice Ford Corsair in the same scene as the character was getting out the car. I'm not kidding lol .
  • DokkDokk Posts: 382MI6 Agent
    Has anyone mentioned the Helicopter scene from TND where it's chasing Bond on the motor bike( Bond ,Not the helicopter!!!LOL)..they could do the box upright & the base at the end of the box,so the copter is nose-down..Just a thought!!! 8-) -{ :007)
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    The LALD Impala Custom Coupe should apparently be released to the Newsagents tomorrow...at least we'll see pictures of it soon, hopefully.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Diecast007 wrote:
    There was also a nice Ford Corsair in the same scene as the character was getting out the car. I'm not kidding lol .

    Well, we've not seen too many Ford Corsairs modelled well in 1/43... :s :s :o ;)

    I didn't notice that one! But I did notice the Peugeot 403 because of the driver and a subsequent Peugeot 404 for a pretty crazy reason. Unlike the T-Bird and the Peugeot 403, which I'd been aware of for a while, I only know because I saw the movie two months ago and received a La Route Bleue diorama with a Peugeot 404 on it the same day!!! Go figure!!! Looking at the Ford Corsair on IMCDB, I can't tell if it's two-door or four-door. Out of pure Bond trivia, I'd be curious to know if it was the two-door model or the four-door model...guess I''ll be watching Thunderball after my date tonight (may come as a surprise to some, but I have a life, haha!)...
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • james John Smythejames John Smythe Station N, Netherlands Posts: 162MI6 Agent
    Lucky for me my girlfriend's out of the country for two weeks :D

    And, I was just thinking about this a few minutes ago, i'm sorry but i'm now giving them ideas mysélf, but what about blofeld's Benz 600 grösse from DaF? It's an equally small role as the T-bird, but it's a different colour and i'd love to see blofeld as a woman :))
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    Bissett has just kindly called me back, as I had emailed them to find out when the next despatch will be (it was supposed to have been 5 August but they still have not received the new stocks). I asked about the extension in Australia and they were really suprised to hear that in the UK the collection has been extended again. Maybe Fabbri is planning to finish on 110 Down Under?
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Jag wrote:
    Maybe Fabbri is planning to finish on 110 Down Under?

    Certainly possible, though they've still got a few issues with which to decide, being behind the UK.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    Yes, but it sounded to me like Bissett will do whatever Fabbri decide. So since they already announced the extension in the UK, it would be nice if they could let their overseas distributors know. After all we are only about a month behind the UK now, as Australia never changed to 1 model per month.

    I suspect that Fabbri will go for it, but will only announce the extension at the last moment. The Bissett lady asked me if I was looking forward to the extension, and was not at all surprised when I said I did not.
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Jag wrote:
    Yes, but it sounded to me like Bissett will do whatever Fabbri decide. So since they already announced the extension in the UK, it would be nice if they could let their overseas distributors know. After all we are only about a month behind the UK now, as Australia never changed to 1 model per month.

    I suspect that Fabbri will go for it, but will only announce the extension at the last moment. The Bissett lady asked me if I was looking forward to the extension, and was not at all surprised when I said I did not.

    Surely, Fabbri wouldn't pass up the potential extra bucks by not extending the collection in far flung lands would they? I'd be very surprised if the collection finished at anything less than 130 anywhere a sale could be made.
    When I spoke to Fabbri's sales lot here, I got pretty much the same reaction as you. They said most subscribers were less than enthusiastic about the extension to 130, and it seemed I was in a minority as someone who thought otherwise (albeit as a cherry picker). I'm guessing they must be totally baffled with the negativity considering there's obviously been enough positive feedback from somewhere to justify the extension. This forum? Ebay dealer orders? Maybe. Or could it simply be that happy subscribers are keeping quiet and they're only currently hearing from disgruntled ones.

    On the topic of 'any car that's appeared in a Bond movie is fair game' including long shots and car parks, how far can we go with this? Can we include Earth shots from space? If so, can I include a 58 Plymouth Fury as seen in 'Christine'? It must have been potentially visible from space when Moonraker was filmed! :)

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  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Jag wrote:
    Yes, but it sounded to me like Bissett will do whatever Fabbri decide. So since they already announced the extension in the UK, it would be nice if they could let their overseas distributors know. After all we are only about a month behind the UK now, as Australia never changed to 1 model per month.

    I suspect that Fabbri will go for it, but will only announce the extension at the last moment. The Bissett lady asked me if I was looking forward to the extension, and was not at all surprised when I said I did not.

    Surely, Fabbri wouldn't pass up the potential extra bucks by not extending the collection in far flung lands would they? I'd be very surprised if the collection finished at anything less than 130 anywhere a sale could be made.
    When I spoke to Fabbri's sales lot here, I got pretty much the same reaction as you. They said most subscribers were less than enthusiastic about the extension to 130, and it seemed I was in a minority as someone who thought otherwise (albeit as a cherry picker). I'm guessing they must be totally baffled with the negativity considering there's obviously been enough positive feedback from somewhere to justify the extension. This forum? Ebay dealer orders? Maybe. Or could it simply be that happy subscribers are keeping quiet and they're only currently hearing from disgruntled ones.

    On the topic of 'any car that's appeared in a Bond movie is fair game' including long shots and car parks, how far can we go with this? Can we include Earth shots from space? If so, can I include a 58 Plymouth Fury as seen in 'Christine'? It must have been potentially visible from space when Moonraker was filmed! :)

    M58_Christine06.jpg

    (P.S. Yes, I know the moviemakers used Savoys and Belvederes to portray 'Christine'!)
  • james John Smythejames John Smythe Station N, Netherlands Posts: 162MI6 Agent
    Well, i'm really sorry for going off-topic like that, but Í for one sure wouldn't mind a decent 1/43 Christine drool.gif
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    First pic of the Impala plus diorama - gravel road!! YAY!! :))


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  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    MovieCarFan,

    You are absolutely correct - Fabbri will not pass up the opportunity to make a profit. But the Australian market is relatively small, and if the number of subscribers falls below a certain level, it will certainly no longer be profitable for them to continue - think of freight costs, customs dues, distribution. I suppose that is why the collection has already concluded in France (and maybe some other countries).
  • james John Smythejames John Smythe Station N, Netherlands Posts: 162MI6 Agent
    and no figures! Suprise Suprise! 8-)
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    Fabbri's idea of cars "in thrilling film scenes" (description taken from their website) has certainly evolved considerably over time! :))
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Jag wrote:
    MovieCarFan,

    You are absolutely correct - Fabbri will not pass up the opportunity to make a profit. But the Australian market is relatively small, and if the number of subscribers falls below a certain level, it will certainly no longer be profitable for them to continue - think of freight costs, customs dues, distribution. I suppose that is why the collection has already concluded in France (and maybe some other countries).

    How did the series come about in Oz? Was it a proper media launch 'available from your newsagent' as in the UK, or is it like ordering foreign publications via your newsagent from the USA for instance?
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    Jag wrote:
    MovieCarFan,
    You are absolutely correct - Fabbri will not pass up the opportunity to make a profit. But the Australian market is relatively small, and if the number of subscribers falls below a certain level, it will certainly no longer be profitable for them to continue - think of freight costs, customs dues, distribution. I suppose that is why the collection has already concluded in France (and maybe some other countries).
    France also required translation of the magazine into French and AFAIR the bases also had the French versions of the movie names printed on them, but neither of those expenses apply to the Australia, New Zealand or South Africa markets.

    BTW, I don't remember any Kiwis ever posting on this thread - does anyone have an idea where the collection is up to in that country?
  • james John Smythejames John Smythe Station N, Netherlands Posts: 162MI6 Agent
    Well, just to make sure I just phoned with the dutch HQ and the woman on the phone told me that they haven't heard of anything for our country ATM, but it will probably be announced around issue 100. Still a few months to go then before I know if i'll have to go on Ebay or not ;)
  • Rainier WolfcastleRainier Wolfcastle Posts: 484MI6 Agent
    Sarcastically attacking MovieCarFan's ideas and my ideas? All right, I guess with me, it's fair game. But literally somehow linking me to a poorly-done, place-holder issue because you're angry with said poorly-done issue...? I'm hoping you're being sarcastic and it's just not coming across well...
    Well, I would like to apologize if it came across that I was blaming you for the T-Bird. I was just saying that the TB T-Bird had been mentioned on this thread before (and perhaps on the other forum that vanished with all its content, although I only remember it from here). From the timeline alone it could very well be that Fabbri has been inspired. That's not a bad thing to say - in fact we all hope that Fabbri has been and will be inspired by our wishlist or why would we make one?
    However, it would be ridiculous to think they would not also note suggestions of castings they have and which could be reused - the "bad ideas". Especially if they need some "fillers" to buy some time for another manufacturer. But I am quite sure they had known that already. That's why I wrote
    FACT wrote:
    And before anyone says I (or anyone else on this board) are giving GEF ideas , consider the timelines
    [...]
    But I think Fabbri does know IMCDB as well as we do, so didn't need our suggestion for this one. If at least they had read the part with the Largo figure!
    But this raises the question: How much lead time do they need for a release? Is our wishlist completely useless and have they been working on an extension up to 150 for the longest time now? And will we see "easy fillers" like another Beetle or the TWINE Daimler DS420 limo next "to buy Ixo more time"?

    So, I don't blame you for the TB T-Bird but, yes, I found it funny that Mr Detail Freak wrote twice it was literally the same as the GF car (mentioning the grille once) and then complaining that UH has not changed the moulds (and that, of course, Ixo would have done that - I really doubt that, had they been in the same situation as UH). Of course Fabbri is the one to blame for the cheaply produced releases of late.
    Sarcastically attacking MovieCarFan's ideas and my ideas?
    Well, if you feel "attacked" when I say that I would not like one each out of all your suggestions? Yes, it is a huge difference if you are a subscriber who will buy 120+ models, or if you just pick the few you really like. Of course as a, say, OHMSS fan, one would maybe like to see every car from the ice race, the green Mini, yellow Beetle, two Escorts etc. But as a subscriber, I guess you would rather prefer if they would not make all of them.
    Yes, it was the loyalty of the subscribers, as yourmovemrbond said so well, which made the collection continue, and not the cherry-pickers'.
    I have always been more the completist type, I never thought about cancelling the subscription before, even when some cars were really terribly done. But now I will definately stop, it has been too much and too poorly made.
    my guess is their excuse will then be "then why didn't you ask for a new Aston Martin Volante from TLD or Audi from TLD?" :(
    Because that was not an option in Fabbri's "Consumer Satisfaction Guarantee". Options were exchange of faulty cars or, if not completely satisfied, money back and cancellation of the subscription at any time. As a subscriber you want to keep the collection complete and not cancel it. I was surprised that they would replace the Anglia but there is a difference to making entirely new moulds as for the Audi or Volante.
  • Rainier WolfcastleRainier Wolfcastle Posts: 484MI6 Agent
    FACT wrote:
    France also required translation of the magazine into French and AFAIR the bases also had the French versions of the movie names printed on them, but neither of those expenses apply to the Australia, New Zealand or South Africa markets.
    Only the test issues (of which I still owe you part 4) had a French text, the regular issues have the same English bases as everywhere else.
    But you are right that Australia and South Africa have the advantage that the magazine is the same as in the UK, so could stay to the end. Strange that France, such a big country and French as a language in Belgium and Switzerland, has stopped while the Netherlands and Finland continue. I have even seen a No. 1 JBCC magazine for Greece but don't know if the Greek version is still around.
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    The collection was launched in Oz pretty much the same way as in the UK. The only difference is that they use a partwork distributor here - Bissett Mags. We had proper TV ads, subscription at newsagents and on the net (with free gifts).

    I understand that in NZ the collection is a few months behind us.
  • AussieSubscriberAussieSubscriber Posts: 3MI6 Agent
    Hi all,

    Have looked at this forum a few times in the past but never had the motivation to comment but my growing resentment of this series has driven me to post tonight! Hopefully this hasn't all been covered previously but I don't feel like reading back through 137 pages of posts!

    Basically I'm (as my name suggests) an Aussie Subscriber that has been with the series from day one back in 2007. This has dragged on way longer than I thought the series would but I must admit this is the first of these types of subscriptions I've bought (never again!) Basically I think when they get out to 110 issues they are taking the p*ss out of the subscribers and just milking them for all they can take. I've received up to issue 105 and have had to call them on several occasions to resend issues because they got damaged in transit. I'm still waiting for 100 to be resent. Having got this far, the only thing keeping me a subscriber is the wish to have a complete set.

    I'm seriously considering telling them to stick their subscription at 110 and if I later decide I want the rest and if it doesn't go on for another 50 issues I might buy them as back issues. If everyone unsubscribed I'm sure they would wind it up pretty quickly.

    The other thing I just realised tonight is how we have been ripped off in this country for so long. When the series began in 2007 the English Pound was worth about $2.40 Australian. This matched up pretty well with the 8 pound price coming to $20 Australian which is what they were priced at. Today the English Pound is only worth about $1.54 Australian so if the currency appreciation was reflected in the price we would be paying about $13 today. So guess who's been reaping all the savings? Definitely not the Australian consumer!

    Anyway, I post this to have a little vent and to see what other subscribers think including Australian subscribers. Perhaps we should call up and say we want a price drop or we will all unsubscribe?

    Look forward to any replies!
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    AussieSubscriber,

    Welcome, and thanks for your thoughts. I totally agree with you and in fact already expressed similar opinions before. Whatever happens, I do not intend to continue beyond 110. So if the extension is announced in Australia, I will cancel and cherry-pick the remainder (if there is anything interesting).
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