James Bond Car Collection - Questions and praise

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  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    This Vanquish is available from the factory in chrome finish, made by Ixo for an Altaya series of chrome models. The seller only silvered the windows and lights and tries to make a few bucks with this "Vanquish". To me this doesn't look very "invisible", more like a chromed car with silver windows ;)

    I agree, it doesn't look very convincing as an 'invisible' car. I think one made from clear plastic would look better.
  • WinnieWinnie Posts: 129MI6 Agent
    I have just picked up the T-Bird today,I must admit its a bit disappointing to be buying virtually the same car again,but thats my decision.Still,there's some nice Bond girls in the centre spread of the magazine to take our minds off the car.
    As mentioned in a previous post ,the white Mercedes 220 is part 112,will that be available next month or 2 weeks time?Anybody know?
  • CAMERA_MANCAMERA_MAN Posts: 99MI6 Agent
    Winnie wrote:
    I have just picked up the T-Bird today,I must admit its a bit disappointing to be buying virtually the same car again,but thats my decision.Still,there's some nice Bond girls in the centre spread of the magazine to take our minds off the car.
    As mentioned in a previous post ,the white Mercedes 220 is part 112,will that be available next month or 2 weeks time?Anybody know?


    According to Fabbri - The models are back to a "Two Per Month release schedule" from #110. I have just had payment taken for issues #110 and #111 so according again to Fabbri, these will arrive shortly to Subscribers.
  • johntruemanjohntrueman Posts: 1MI6 Agent
    Can anyone tell me when this collection finishes? I have every one since it started (just picked up issue 112 today) but am fast running out of room.
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    Can anyone tell me when this collection finishes? I have every one since it started (just picked up issue 112 today) but am fast running out of room.

    How long is a piece of string ? We believe it has been extended to 130.
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    Can anyone tell me when this collection finishes? I have every one since it started (just picked up issue 112 today) but am fast running out of room.

    It has been extended to 130 for now. I don't think even Fabbri know when the collection will finish. I would estimate that it will be completed when every single vehicle shown in a Bond move for more than 0.1 second has been covered or when Fabbri stops making money out of it - whichever happens first. And they will certainly try to squeeze in vehicles from the next movie, if they can.
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Jag wrote:
    Can anyone tell me when this collection finishes? I have every one since it started (just picked up issue 112 today) but am fast running out of room.

    It has been extended to 130 for now. I don't think even Fabbri know when the collection will finish. I would estimate that it will be completed when every single vehicle shown in a Bond move for more than 0.1 second has been covered or when Fabbri stops making money out of it - whichever happens first. And they will certainly try to squeeze in vehicles from the next movie, if they can.

    I reckon the finish point of this series will be very much down to us, the consumers. I'm guessing that subscriptions are dropping quite sharply right now but back orders and retailers' bulk orders are probably on the increase, so Fabbri will no doubt wait and see how things 'pan out' between now and issue 130. One thing is for sure, bearing in mind the number of vehicles left on the forum's 'wants' list, the series could quite easily stretch to 150 and beyond without any problem at all. Personally, as a 'cherry picker', and a movie-centred petrol head, I'd be more than happy for the series to continue on as long as Fabbri want to carry on offering us interesting models. The relevance to Bond is very tenuous now IMHO but still there, and yes, many of the models are very much based on fleeting screen appearances, but some of them are great display items - the GF Country Squire for example. I await the Dodge Ambulance, GF Merc and Plymouth Taxi with equal anticipation :)
  • dickiebartdickiebart Posts: 220MI6 Agent
    Can anyone tell me when this collection finishes? I have every one since it started (just picked up issue 112 today) but am fast running out of room.

    Confirmed to 130 as said, but I suspect Bond 23 will be included, and another 10 at least, will be produced. Probably even 20. 7 or so from the 2012 film and the rest unproduced cars that fans want.
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  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    In all honesty i hope the collection continues beyond 130. 150 would be a good place to stop. This would be a nice round number to conclude on. Even if some of the larger models were included as a double issues such as LALD bus, Kenworth tanker etc. Still waiting for 110, anglia and I guess 111 the blunderbird
  • BleuvilleBleuville Posts: 384MI6 Agent
    Winnie wrote:
    I have just picked up the T-Bird today,I must admit its a bit disappointing to be buying virtually the same car again,but thats my decision.Still,there's some nice Bond girls in the centre spread of the magazine to take our minds off the car.
    As mentioned in a previous post ,the white Mercedes 220 is part 112,will that be available next month or 2 weeks time?Anybody know?

    Just rang Forbidden Planet and they have the T-Bird waiting-so I will go and collect,
    but some are good (GF Laser van) others are not (Morris Minor) and I still make my plea
    to produce DRACO'S BLUE ROLLS ROYCE CONVERTIBLE from OHMSS (with figures?)
    unless they've got Rolls Royce licensing problems?
    This would be a very special model if made and very popular I'm sure.

    Bleuville. Newsreader - "It was confirmed that Big Ben struck 7 times at 6pm" Thunderball.
  • crocke007crocke007 Posts: 107MI6 Agent
    Well guys - I have finally given up on it all - sold my collection and cancelled my subscription for the remainder !!
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    I see we are still split according to those who wish the JBCC to keep extending and those who want to see it end yesterday! There are two concerns I have with deciding whether to continue collecting this series: figures and time.

    I am waiting to see whether Issue 112 has figures included in the diorama. I've read the thoughts of others here speculating that there will not be any further figures in the extension, but if that is indeed the case then there seems little point to me in continuing to collect this series (remember the whole "how important is the diorama" discussion that we had a month or two back).

    Also, I am starting to get collector fatigue - I have been collecting this series for over three years now and the thought of another two years to go is not appealing. I know many others here (UK based) have been collecting for nearly 5 years now (2007-2011) and I'm not surprised to hear (and see on ebay) that some are opting out and ditching the lot.
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    crocke007 wrote:
    Well guys - I have finally given up on it all - sold my collection and cancelled my subscription for the remainder !!


    Did you make or lose money when selling the collection, if I may ask? Did you sell it as a whole or individually?
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited October 2011
    "issue 112 confirmed as Lieutenant Hip's Mercedes Benz 220 from Golden Gun"

    Well, I'm back. Nice to see we'll be getting the first RHD Mercedes-Benz in a while. Think I'll buy that one if Ixo does a good job on it!

    I agree with FACT, by the way...I'm also starting to suffer from "Collector Fatigue". I actually like most (not all) of the cars being offered, but enough is enough. End it at around 140 and call it a day. I'll obviously get the Eastern Bloc cars, the M-B's, and the 1950's-1970's American cars, but this is kinda "going on and on", if you know what I mean. The number of people starting to ditch is also telling.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • WinnieWinnie Posts: 129MI6 Agent
    FACT has summed up how I feel about the collection perfectly.I'm not really interested in more driveless/static cars placed on a gravel/road base.If No.112 has figures and decent diorama,then I will be happy to carry on.
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    "issue 112 confirmed as Lieutenant Hip's Mercedes Benz 220 from Golden Gun"

    Well, I'm back. Nice to see we'll be getting the first RHD Mercedes-Benz in a while. Think I'll buy that one if Ixo does a good job on it!

    I agree with FACT, by the way...I'm also starting to suffer from "Collector Fatigue". I actually like most (not all) of the cars being offered, but enough is enough. End it at around 140 and call it a day. I'll obviously get the Eastern Bloc cars, the M-B's, and the 1950's-1970's American cars, but this is kinda "going on and on", if you know what I mean. The number of people starting to ditch is also telling.

    For a while there, I thought you weren't talking to us any more D110! :)

    It's a shame if people are losing interest in the JBCC but understandable. I think it's in the nature of most avid collectors to 'move on' at some point, especially if something more attention grabbing crops up - look at all the folks who went over to the DB5 partwork 'darkside' from this series! I used to switch from one collecting or hobby area to another, then realised it was best to have a few themes running at the same time, because if one becomes a bit tedious you can concentrate on another for a while thus keeping the interest in all areas going for years. I regard the JBCC as an important part of the various die-cast Bond and movie vehicles I've been collecting since I was a kid, so the models will probably stay with me for many years to come. I guess the one good thing about anybody selling up their collection is that presumably for each person who ditches, someone else takes over, hopefully with a fresh interest in the series.
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
    I think Fabbri are on the edge of "over-cooking it". At last NEC swapmeet there were still plenty of tables with James Bond models on but the prices are all falling. Newer stuff like Impala and Econoline is now £20 rather than £25 and they are now having to sell off older and less popular items at £5 or so (i.e. at a loss) - Hearses still a slight premium but not the £30-40 we saw at one point. Interestingly the ones that seem not to be good sellers to general buyers are the ones with damage, wheels missing etc etc.

    Suspect collections are being sold at a loss of about 40% on e-bay as well.

    If Fabbri are to hit 150 - and I wouldn't be surprised if that is the target allowing for next bond and some more gap filling - they will need IXO to do the models very well indeed to maintain interest. They also need to do more for the bond collectors even if only in terms of simple moulded diorama features if they can't licence figures. They have plenty of time to get some sculpted bases prepared for model from 120 on for example.

    BTW database warehouse say that the Econoline is back in stock but I am still waiting for mine - hopefully next week. They also promise again a letter setting out what is to come... but I am not holding my breath.
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    I think that indeed Fabbri will be watching with great interest what happens with this extension. Ixo models are indeed much better that UH, but the downside is the lack of figures and boring dioramas. So even though I am sure there will be another extension, a lot will depend how the current one fares.

    As for selling the collection, now is the worst moment - the collection is still going and back orders are still available. I am likely to make a selection and choose models to sell/swap, but to be able to break even you will have to wait quite a few years after the collection has concluded.
  • myhandlemyhandle Posts: 124MI6 Agent
    The space issue becomes a problem for me beyond 130. There are a few models which I don't like, and won't display, but nonetheless the two display units I have for this collection have only so much space. I think I can manage 120, including having some outside the unit on the shelf at the front. I display them on the diorama, with the lid removed. With the lid on I find them very hard to see properly when behind glass, and I am not a huge fan of the cheapo plastic lids or cardboard background, though I do obviously keep these stored.

    I am going to continue to subscribe until the end (even if it goes to 250) as when the box arrives, it brightens up my day a little, unless the scale starts to change a la Bondola. I am a 1:43 collector, with some 1:18s and a few very specific things in other scales. For me, collecting things is all about having a brighter day!
  • crocke007crocke007 Posts: 107MI6 Agent
    Jag wrote:
    crocke007 wrote:
    Well guys - I have finally given up on it all - sold my collection and cancelled my subscription for the remainder !!


    Did you make or lose money when selling the collection, if I may ask? Did you sell it as a whole or individually?


    I sold them at approx half what I paid !
  • crocke007crocke007 Posts: 107MI6 Agent
    Oh, I sold them as a whole - I have seen them being sold individually on ebay though
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited October 2011
    For a while there, I thought you weren't talking to us any more D110! :)

    It's a shame if people are losing interest in the JBCC but understandable. I think it's in the nature of most avid collectors to 'move on' at some point, especially if something more attention grabbing crops up - look at all the folks who went over to the DB5 partwork 'darkside' from this series! I used to switch from one collecting or hobby area to another, then realised it was best to have a few themes running at the same time, because if one becomes a bit tedious you can concentrate on another for a while thus keeping the interest in all areas going for years. I regard the JBCC as an important part of the various die-cast Bond and movie vehicles I've been collecting since I was a kid, so the models will probably stay with me for many years to come. I guess the one good thing about anybody selling up their collection is that presumably for each person who ditches, someone else takes over, hopefully with a fresh interest in the series.

    Nah, I'm not gone. Everyone has to take a vacation, you know... :D But I digress. Like I said, I'm getting collector fatigue from this collection. And look...I know people might object to me bringing up the ex-East Bloc partworks, but just hear me out on it in this one post: right now, I'm collecting USSR AvtoLegende (as if you hadn't figured that one out...), Kultowe Auta PRL-u, Atlas DDR Trucks, and two new partworks: Avtomobili na Sluzhba (Russian for "The Car in Public Service") and Masini de Legenda (Romanian DeAgostini...this was a little unexpected, especially because they decided to completely overhaul the series). What the JBCC has to do to me as a car-centric is prove to me that it's worth continuing over (especially) the two new partworks, price-wise. Now, why is this important? Because Fabbri is now gambling on picking up the car-centric market, that's why.

    If you're following any one of a number of new and/or ongoing partworks and are car-centric, you're going to be looking for your own personal collecting interests first, detail second, alternatives third, and loyalty to the partwork fourth. That's what I do and that's what I know many other people do. It's why I'm 100% certain that I'm getting every East Bloc and ex-East Bloc model they put into the collection, the American cars (including the Dodge Ambulance and Plymouth Savoy Istanbul Taxi), and the M-B's (and the Jamaican taxi too...I really thought that was a nifty model). That's what I like. Those are my big personal genres and they're not going to change unless I see something truly spectacular (Neo Models, I admit, got me into certain cars I'd otherwise not have purchased, even though they are somewhat hit or miss).

    So, why detail second? Well, think of it this way: during the 1990's, the only models of Soviet cars available that were even remotely affordable were either Radon or the Agat/Tantal stuff from the 1990's that re-used Radon's moulds. They were toy-like, but there was no alternative until along came Kherson Models and MD Studio and while they each cost you about $75-$100 a car, they generally looked like the real thing, too (and then Ixo decided to try their hand at building East Bloc cars and, well...you know the rest). But if forced to choose between four equal cars, I'm going with Ixo now because they present the best compromise between value and detail. Would I like a company like ICV (new, incredibly detailed) now that makes better models than all four mentioned companies? Sure. But they're just too expensive.

    Alternatives third? Well, that's because, as mentioned above, sometimes there is no alternative. But other times, not only is there an alternative, but there's a terrific alternative. And I'm not just alluding to Minichamps' terrific M-B models or Neo's recent American cars, either (btw, the Neo 1970[?] Ford F-150 Pickup is REALLY selling well; better than I thought it would...like I said, put out an American pickup from after 1955 and it will fly off the shelves). I'm also referring to Ixo itself. And this here is why I think you're seeing the lower prices amongst the Ford Econoline and Ford Country Squire...when Ixo announced they would be released as PremiumX Diecast cars (new model range) as well with photo-etched details, what do you think happened next? Same car and unless you're from a country with the partwork available (such as the USA), it probably won't cost too terribly much extra. And model car collectors tend to be pretty patient; if you weren't, you'd go broke within a day. And unlike with Ist Models, where they've received near-endless condemnations for picking the wrong colors in their non-special editions except for their superb East German models, I'm looking at these new PremiumX Diecast preview photos and I'm seeing cars that were really driving around at the time. If you're buying a Ford Econoline because you want the model itself regardless of paint scheme and don't really care about Bond, I would think that if you're aware of the PremiumX Diecast model's existence, you're going to wait for that.

    Loyalty to the partwork is fourth. And it's a distant fourth. What unique characteristics does the partwork...ANY partwork...offer me? In the cases of Avtomobili na Sluzhba and Atlas DDR Trucks...just TWO partworks...do I believe I'm exclusively getting something that I couldn't get elsewhere for a comparable price (although USSR AvtoLegende is AWFULLY close and once they start releasing prototypes, it will attain that status). And that...as of now, anyway...includes the JBCC. Are there cars I absolutely know I will get? Of course. But all of those will wind up pulled off their display bases and/or Code 3'd (I'd say a majority would regarding the license plates, in fact). But are there cars where I'm going to weigh my options for a similar car or have second thoughts about before buying? Yes, that too. Very much so.
    Jag wrote:
    Ixo models are indeed much better that UH, but the downside is the lack of figures and boring dioramas. So even though I am sure there will be another extension, a lot will depend how the current one fares.

    Bingo, and this is why I think they're going for the car-centrics in terms of marketing.
    maz wrote:
    Interestingly the ones that seem not to be good sellers to general buyers are the ones with damage, wheels missing etc etc.

    I can tell you right now why that is: because people aren't afraid of ruining the value when they Code 3 them into ambulances.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • Cooper SCooper S Posts: 14MI6 Agent
    If Fabbri are monitoring this thread these are the top three cars from a previous list that I'd like to see added to the collection -

    1. YOLT etc. Yellow villain's base Moke !

    2. OHMSS Rolls convertible.

    3. OHMSS Ford Escort ice rally racer.

    Plus, the stretch Lincoln Continental from Thunderball.

    If the collection continues long enough to include these I'll be happy !
  • Steve Rush DI5 AgentSteve Rush DI5 Agent Oxfordshire, Great BritainPosts: 59MI6 Agent
    Hi everyone - here is a rare post from me.

    I have today bitten the gold-plated bullet and cancelled my subscription.

    My most recent direct debit payment was claimed yesterday and I was assured that this entitles me to receive numbers 110 and 111 and also the replacement Anglia. I can apparently expect to receive them by the end of next week.

    This must be the longest running part-work ever: It was such a joy to collect when it first began - almost 5 years ago - and 40 cars was a manageable amount.

    In more recent times, what began as a joyful and interesting hobby has developed into something of a monster - to the extent that I can no longer stand the sight of these boxes when they turn up!

    Recent deliveries have seen the magazines filed in the cardboard rack and the models piled up in their cardboard boxes in my living room, like an oversized Jenga game, as soon as I had opened them to check that they were undamaged.

    I am presently considering what I am going to do with the 115 models I have acquired to date.

    Best wishes to all and good luck to the diehards who are still hanging in there!

    Cheers

    SR
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Cooper S wrote:
    If Fabbri are monitoring this thread these are the top three cars from a previous list that I'd like to see added to the collection -

    1. YOLT etc. Yellow villain's base Moke !

    Like I said earlier, Ixo's the one running the show now and mostly aiming the market toward car-centrics (not saying that's good or bad, but I know Ixo and I know what I'm dealing with), and moreso than ever. If they think there's a viable market for a Moke, they'll make one. If not, they won't.
    Cooper S wrote:
    2. OHMSS Rolls convertible.

    This is the sort of car Ixo would make if they could. I know they've repeatedly tried to get permission to make various and sundry Rolls-Royce models, but RR will not give them the license needed to do so. They've even been super-selective with TrueScale by Schuco, Neo, and Minichamps as to particular models, so this is something we might not see, but only because of RR, not Ixo.
    Cooper S wrote:

    3. OHMSS Ford Escort ice rally racer.

    Wouldn't be surprised at all if we see this one, knowing Ixo.
    Cooper S wrote:

    Plus, the stretch Lincoln Continental from Thunderball.

    The 1965 Lincoln Continental Lehmann-Peterson Executive Limousine WILL APPEAR, according to Fabbri. :)
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    Just going back to Professor Dent's green Vauxhall Velox from Dr. No, I finally got a chance to do the pause-&-zoom thing with the DVD to read the license plate - the registration is "R(gap)6740" in white letters on black. The script/font is the same as used on the Sunbeam Alpine, but this plate is more square than the Alpine's. An example of a similar plate, T 2834, can be seen in the Jamaica category of the website linked to below:
    http://www.worldlicenseplates.com/
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
    Thanks Fact for finding the number and then finding the web site - brilliant. Guess I will have to get the plates done and post the pic with them altered.
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
    Just tracked down my Vanguards Minx IIIa as seeen in Dr. No alongside the equally briefly seen Anglia. Sadly the VAnguards seems to be a diiferent shade of red as can be seen below and is also quite an early Lledo Vanguard so is not in a plastic box suitable to "bond" and has no mounting points in chassis to attach to the base. I'll skip on doing this one as a Bond though if I find a tatty one at a swapmeet I may change my mind.

    Can someone who has the Largo TBird post some pictures so I can compare to the original one. Pref showing front, side and back?


    minxfrontsmall.jpg
    minxrearsmall.jpg
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    Hi Maz, that particular Hillman Minx model (VA06800, Cream over Ember Red) was actually issued twice by Vanguards - yours sounds like the first issue from November 2001, which came in the original (and current) style yellow lid-box with the model in a vacform holder inside. It was also re-issued in October 2004 as one of a group of 20-odd re-issues of old models that had not been limited editions, to "celebrate" Corgi/Lledo's new perspex packaging & grouped-by-manufacturer theme for the Vanguards range. The re-issue is the one that would have met your requirement of a perspex box & mounting point.

    I have VA06809, overall Glade Green, in my collection - this is currently the last commercial release of that mould, from April 2005.
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
    Thanks for the info will keep my eyes open at toyfairs for the one in the plastic box.
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