James Bond Car Collection - Questions and praise

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  • james John Smythejames John Smythe Station N, Netherlands Posts: 162MI6 Agent
    Jááááááááááááááááág XJ-L with blue flashers please!
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    I really like the New Beetle in the flesh, but for me to buy a 1/43 model it would have to play a very important role in SkyFall. Somehow doubt it will happen.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    One important thing to keep in mind...even when Diecast007 emailed Eaglemoss and they said they would put figures back in (which they did), they outright said that they could not include likenesses from the Daniel Craig films. We may get good cars for Skyfall, but due to legal reasons, we're going to have to put up without figures for them.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    One important thing to keep in mind...even when Diecast007 emailed Eaglemoss and they said they would put figures back in (which they did), they outright said that they could not include likenesses from the Daniel Craig films. We may get good cars for Skyfall, but due to legal reasons, we're going to have to put up without figures for them.

    I suspect most people here have gotten used to the absence of figures in the DC related offerings so probably won't be too surprised if they don't show up in any Skyfall models. I seriously think with the Quantum Alfa and DBS, Fabbri at least had them created in an 'action' setting so that people could add figures to make them look right. Maybe they could try and do the same thing again with the SF cars. It's just a shame that 'generic' spare figures (driver/ passenger etc) haven't been made readily available.
    The other point to consider is that if Skyfall turns out to be the blistering blockbuster all the pundits are currently promising, the models will no doubt sell well anyway. I just wonder who will make them - UH or Ixo or both..............
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
    The only reason eaglemoss would not do next bond film as an extension is if they can't get the rights. It may be that any license they have finishes at end of films made when series began and they have to negotiate a whole new license for Skyfall which may be an expensive business. Or if someone else negotiates an exclusive licence they would be stuck. My guess is eaglemoss will stay with ixo but there is always half a chance norev might be used since they would like new jag in their main range and they already have a very good db5.

    Speculation like this makes it all more exciting!
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    maz wrote:
    there is always half a chance norev might be used

    I think that would be awesome, as Norev makes some truly terrific stuff. However, aside from the superb Fiat Story partwork (which was never THAT cheap), most of their partwork cars have been relatively expensive (witness the partwork they did for Japan where the cars are selling for $40-$50 and now the world leaders series), though beautifully detailed. If Norev signs back on, I can't imagine there NOT being a price hike.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    If Norev signs back on, I can't imagine there NOT being a price hike.

    Now that's a tricky one. Do we stay quiet, hoping they'll keep the price fixed and run the risk of not getting possibly very nice Norev Skyfall models, or do we green light a price hike?

    Maz, was it the Norev DB5 that was issue no.1 in a classic sportscars partwork in the UK a couple of years back?
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    If Norev signs back on, I can't imagine there NOT being a price hike.

    Now that's a tricky one. Do we stay quiet, hoping they'll keep the price fixed and run the risk of not getting possibly very nice Norev Skyfall models, or do we green light a price hike?

    Maz, was it the Norev DB5 that was issue no.1 in a classic sportscars partwork in the UK a couple of years back?

    I realize I'm not Maz, but I know the answer to this one: yes, it was. Not only that, but it was the same mould used for Norev's version of Issue 1 of the JBCC.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    edited April 2012
    If Norev signs back on, I can't imagine there NOT being a price hike.

    Now that's a tricky one. Do we stay quiet, hoping they'll keep the price fixed and run the risk of not getting possibly very nice Norev Skyfall models, or do we green light a price hike?

    Maz, was it the Norev DB5 that was issue no.1 in a classic sportscars partwork in the UK a couple of years back?

    I realize I'm not Maz, but I know the answer to this one: yes, it was. Not only that, but it was the same mould used for Norev's version of Issue 1 of the JBCC.

    A mine of information! :) So Norev not only have a DB5 mould, they have a JB DB5 mould with the correct roof 'ejector' panel line - or was it tampo-ed on?

    Additional:
    Just found the beast in question -

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    I believe the 'Classic British Sportscars' series was released in 2009.
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
    You can pick up the Norev DB5 in the Atlas series for very low prices at the moment and it is an excellent model too don't be fooled by the low price. I think the whole history of the early JBCC try outs is earlier in this thread and may even include some shots. It is not just Norev Fiat partworks that are dearer they are all dearer now - JBCC has been running a long time. Agree that Norev cars in Fiat series are nice I have quite a few.
    For my part I would live with a modest price hike to get really good skyfall cars in neat dioramas though I can't say I'm that thrilled about another DB5. I dont care who does em but I would like them to be relevant and well done which really means IXO or Norev at the moment unless UH pulled out all the stops.
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    maz wrote:
    I can't say I'm that thrilled about another DB5

    I think an awful lot depends on how the car is seen or used in Skyfall. If it's going to be another pristine cameo such as in Goldeneye then there's not much chance of a really interesting model, albeit it still being the most famous and iconic Bond car. BUT, if the wonders of CGI come into play or perhaps a fibre glass DB5 replica is used, I for one am hoping we might see surprise new gadgets, or maybe damage, mud splatter - who knows? This is a Bond who really doesn't like returning field kit to Q in one piece.
  • james John Smythejames John Smythe Station N, Netherlands Posts: 162MI6 Agent
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkO_Gzio3Xw

    We don't know what's going to happen, but i's going to look amazing judging by that camera POV :o
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    The new Lincoln, posted on another forum:


    divers_lincoln_thunderball_big.jpg
    click to enlarge

    I'm getting my order in :)
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    The new Lincoln, posted on another forum:


    divers_lincoln_thunderball_big.jpg
    click to enlarge

    I'm getting my order in :)


    Thanks!

    Doesn't look 1/43 to me... Hope I'm wrong.
  • DokkDokk Posts: 382MI6 Agent
    Jag wrote:
    The new Lincoln, posted on another forum:


    divers_lincoln_thunderball_big.jpg
    click to enlarge

    I'm getting my order in :)


    Thanks!

    Doesn't look 1/43 to me... Hope I'm wrong.


    Yea! Looks rather small & out of place in that box.. -{ :007)
  • yourmovemrbondyourmovemrbond Posts: 61MI6 Agent
    Dokk wrote:
    Jag wrote:
    The new Lincoln, posted on another forum:


    divers_lincoln_thunderball_big.jpg
    click to enlarge

    I'm getting my order in :)


    Thanks!

    Doesn't look 1/43 to me... Hope I'm wrong.


    Yea! Looks rather small & out of place in that box.. -{ :007)
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    ...unless the box is MUCH bigger than the biggest box so far! Before I even consider buying it I will wait until someone here holds it in their hands and confirms it is 1/43.
  • Rainier WolfcastleRainier Wolfcastle Posts: 484MI6 Agent
    Why do you think it is not 1/43? If this is the same length box as the Cadillac hearse (and I have no doubt about it) the Lincoln looks like about the same size as the Caddy, just as it should (I have measured - through the unopened box - the hearse at about 145 mm, and the Lehmann-Peterson should be 148 mm).

    Compared to a photo of the Cadillac as posted by MCF, it seems that both are pretty much the same length:
    7c4yS.jpg

    It also wouldn't make much sense for Ixo to not make this 1/43. They have a 1967 L-P limo in their range, and of course can reuse parts (like baseplate, interior, tyres, headlights, mirror, bonnet emblem) for the 1964 TB car.

    And I have to say: Big plus for Ixo as this is not the 1967 from their standard range. They have indeed changed the car to a 1964 as seen in the film (sorry for all East-bloc collectors but it is clearly not a 1965 as the ZIL factory junkyard car).

    The grille is not visible in the photo (but I guess it will be correct) but from what I can see, the wheels, wheel arches, front bumper, rear bumper with wraparound lights, side window spacing and vinyl roof with small "formal" rear window have all been changed when compared to Ixo's 1967 CLC033:
    LincolnContinentallimo001.jpg
    LincolnContinentallimo002-1.jpg
    (The car from these pics is missing its bonnet emblem.)

    Quite a nice model, definately a must-buy for me (and then I have to obtain the 1967 too ...) - but far from perfect. I think the low chrome strip between front bumper and front wheels is missing (the '64 should have one), the chrome window surround is quite heavy-handed, and the shape of the beltline behind the rear wheels is off. I should be more straight and not curving downwards so much. This is probably a leftover from the 1967 model (or could this just be the photo?).
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited April 2012
    That's 1/43, without question. The box is literally almost as wide as the magazine is. Too tough to tell how accurate it is in that low a resolution, but the rear end seems correct for 1964. This could be the first of Ixo's new moulds.
    They have indeed changed the car to a 1964 as seen in the film (sorry for all East-bloc collectors but it is clearly not a 1965 as the ZIL factory junkyard car).

    Yep, it's a '64 (not disappointed, actually...I love the '64's grille, plus as stated, it was an extremely rare car in Type 53A configuration), and I agree on all but the last point about the rear wheels. It's just too blurry to tell, I think. The resolution of that part of the photo is frankly so low that I actually couldn't tell what the rear lights looked like at first.

    But there is ONE error, I believe: the roof. It should be a landau roof and it appears to be metal. Did such a car exist? Yes, I believe it was an option for the Type 53A (either that or the Type 53). Did such a car appear in a Bond film? Nope.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    That's 1/43, without question. The box is literally almost as wide as the magazine is. Too tough to tell how accurate it is in that low a resolution, but the rear end seems correct for 1964. This could be the first of Ixo's new moulds.
    They have indeed changed the car to a 1964 as seen in the film (sorry for all East-bloc collectors but it is clearly not a 1965 as the ZIL factory junkyard car).

    Yep, it's a '64 (not disappointed, actually...I love the '64's grille, plus as stated, it was an extremely rare car in Type 53A configuration), and I agree on all but the last point about the rear wheels. It's just too blurry to tell, I think. The resolution of that part of the photo is frankly so low that I actually couldn't tell what the rear lights looked like at first.

    But there is ONE error, I believe: the roof. It should be a landau roof and it appears to be metal. Did such a car exist? Yes, I believe it was an option for the Type 53A (either that or the Type 53). Did such a car appear in a Bond film? Nope.


    The car looked a bit smallish in the box to me, but if you are positive it is 1/43 then I feel a little reassured. Still, seeing is believing, so I really would like someone who has held the car in his/her hand to confirm it here.
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Just to update everyone, issue 120 is the FYEO Merc 450 SEL.

    But there is ONE error, I believe: the roof. It should be a landau roof and it appears to be metal. Did such a car exist? Yes, I believe it was an option for the Type 53A (either that or the Type 53). Did such a car appear in a Bond film? Nope.

    D110 - does 'landau' mean a vinyl covered roof or a soft top roof? :s
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Just found a YouTube sequence of the Lincoln:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_KRzwxb8zA
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    does 'landau' mean a vinyl covered roof or a soft top roof

    Vinyl-covered. I guess what George Bernard Shaw said about the US and UK being being two peoples separated by a common language has some truth to it in the auto industry, too, haha! :))
    issue 120 is the FYEO Merc 450 SEL.

    Thanks! Hopefully they stretched the wheelbase ever so slightly. After this model that I guess we were expecting would be a recycled mould, I do have a little bit of hope for this one.
    Jag wrote:
    The car looked a bit smallish in the box to me, but if you are positive it is 1/43 then I feel a little reassured.

    I have the Ixo '67 Continental, which is also 1/43 and nobody contests that, and I would have to say these are the same size, basically.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    does 'landau' mean a vinyl covered roof or a soft top roof

    Vinyl-covered. I guess what George Bernard Shaw said about the US and UK being being two peoples separated by a common language has some truth to it in the auto industry, too, haha! :))

    Absolutely! Hood=Bonnet, Trunk=Boot, Fender=Wing, Stick Shift=Gear Lever - and many more!!! :)

    I think there might be a chance the model's roof has been finished in silk black to simulate vinyl, in which case the camera flash may have reflected off it so brightly it looks like gloss painted metal - only a theory, could be wrong.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited April 2012
    Absolutely! Hood=Bonnet, Trunk=Boot, Fender=Wing, Stick Shift=Gear Lever - and many more!!! :)

    You should give talking with a Russian or Ukrainian auto enthusiast a try. They speak American English...and I mean, almost all speak American English...but almost without exception, they have British terminology for car parts (except they use "trunk"...I've never heard a former Soviet gearhead refer to it as a "boot"). To add that that confusion, despite the experiences I've had with many Russians calling a fender a wing, they'll always refer to side mirrors as side mirrors. Otherwise, though? Gear lever, bonnet, saloon, and if they know you only speak English, they'll use estate to describe a wagon (others will use "Combi" spelled that way, pronounced like the Germans would, if you're really familiar with Soviet cars).

    EDIT: Although if you're talking about panel vans, your response will be either "furgon" or "fourgon", which is of course French.
    I think there might be a chance the model's roof has been finished in silk black to simulate vinyl, in which case the camera flash may have reflected off it so brightly it looks like gloss painted metal - only a theory, could be wrong.

    Again, the resolution is honestly too low to tell. The roof seems shiny, but looking at the C-pillar...well, now I'm not so sure.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Hopefully it won't be too long before yourmovemrbond posts a better pic of it. It would be neat to see a figure of 'the widow' in this one!
  • yourmovemrbondyourmovemrbond Posts: 61MI6 Agent
    Hopefully it won't be too long before yourmovemrbond posts a better pic of it. It would be neat to see a figure of 'the widow' in this one!
    hi, i wish i could post a pic now, but i was told i wont get mine until 16th may......are they planning to release this one earlier than the normal 4 x week issue?.......and can anyone read the writing on the magazine behind the photo of the lincoln?
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
    I was told next parts back orders start on 16th usually you can order next two parts at that point but we will see. Suspect new casting means no figures just to keep costs down. Sure this is another one for the us model collector and it will be popular.
  • DokkDokk Posts: 382MI6 Agent
    Can anyone give me the dimensions of the boxes the cars & mags is sent in?? ..I'm not sure how you measure them e: Length, Width or what...Thanx -{ :007)
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    edited May 2012
    Dokk wrote:
    Can anyone give me the dimensions of the boxes the cars & mags is sent in?? ..I'm not sure how you measure them e: Length, Width or what...Thanx -{ :007)

    I've received models from Database in three different type and size boxes, but the most common one is the 'collapsible' type, the size of the magazine by the depth of the smaller case, so: 295mm long X 225mm wide X 90mm deep. The only problem with that one is that it's useless for shipping the taller cases, they end up cracked in transit.

    Back on the Lincoln, here's another pic from eBay:

    KGr_Hq_JHJBg_E_QZu_BJg_BPnu_Wvofqw_60_12.jpg
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