James Bond Car Collection - Questions and praise

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  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    A 1976 Chevrolet Opala SS was the first model of a Brazilian Cars partwork from DeAgostini. I don't think it was developed for the JBCC.

    Seeing as RW's one picture link didn't work, here's a couple of photos of that collection taken by Sergio Luis Santos, who contributes to the US-based 1/43 forum that I follow:
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    This was launched in August 2011, from what I understood from Sergio's posts at the time.

    DB110, interesting about those other Brazilian car models - they are indeed not up to collector standard, the opening features alone would put me off as very few manufacturers get that to work & look well in this small scale.
    What I want to add is that I, like Jag wrote earlier, also would like to read more from other collectors even if their country is behind. Discussing the real cars, the new issues just surfacing on Ebay or adding a suggestion to the wishlist is or would have been possible anyway. The German partwork is now at 116 or 117 (Lada Niva/Mercedes 220S), have to check at the shop in the next days.
    Here in South Africa the next release will be 101, the AVTAK RR Silver Cloud II, due in about three weeks. My only concern with this model is whether I will be able to get a copy at the newsagents!! I couldn't find Issue 98 anywhere back in May and now have a UK-based friend trawling ebay for a reasonably-priced one as I have no faith in the backorders system here, and that issue is no longer available as a backorder in the UK. Issue 101 is also sold out in the UK, which is why I am concerned.
    I'm looking forward to getting the Ford Consul (also sold out in the UK) from a car-centric angle, but as far as Bond-centric goes only the Lada Niva and the Mercedes 450 SEL hold any real attraction. The rest I am getting to complete the collection....
    In addition to "collector's fatigue" caused by this neverending partwork I also have times of "discussion fatigue" when I decide to only read and not post for weeks.
    That's also true for me {[] but for days, not weeks :D

    As to on-topic/off-topic debate, I would prefer that we only discussed the JBCC, but I also have two points to throw in that go to the contrary:
    This thread (now one of the longest-running at AJB) was started by batester2005 back in March 2007 - he last posted in this thread (and on AJB at all) in Oct 2009, so I would say that it is safe to say that he has long since abandoned any "creative control" over the thread and it is now what we make it, not what he made it.
    Also, staying strictly on-topic leads to a lack of interaction - just go take a look at the MI6Community equivalent thread to this one: last 2 posts on 27 July, one before that on 22 July, a few before that on 20/21 July to discuss 122&123, and then 8 posts on 11/12 July to discuss 120&121. Yawn.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    FACT wrote:
    This was launched in August 2011, from what I understood from Sergio's posts at the time.

    A shame it seems to be so tough to get. I've little to no doubt that cars like the '74 Ford Maverick, '67 Ford Galaxie 500XL (which is really a '66 American market Galaxie 500XL), and VW Karmann-Ghia will be rebranded as PremiumX, but then there are the local updates on the Willys Jeep designs that are much more obscure.
    DB110, interesting about those other Brazilian car models - they are indeed not up to collector standard, the opening features alone would put me off as very few manufacturers get that to work & look well in this small scale.

    Aside from Trax Models' superb Opal Series along with certain companies like Classic Carlectables that have opening hoods and/or trunks only, even Franklin Mint couldn't get it completely right. I really like their stuff, but the gaps are sometimes a little too obvious.

    By the way, three (quick) commentaries on the "copycat partwork". First, it seems to be called Historia dos Carros Brasileiros. Second, it's a near-complete copycat in terms of order and cars featured. To be honest, I've never seen anything like this. Has this ever happened with any car partwork before, to anyone's knowledge?

    Third and finally, remember this car from MR despite its very small role? I sure do, and not simply because it was a classic. Quite the opposite (adding to its oddity is that it seems to be a police vehicle)...

    http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_57920-Glaspac.html

    Apparently, they'll do a Glaspac Buggy for that partwork, although there's no picture yet. If you want your own "Issue 136", that might be a solid candidate given how odd-looking it is and the fact that it was regardless a Bond car that got a couple seconds worth of screentime.
    Also, staying strictly on-topic leads to a lack of interaction - just go take a look at the MI6Community equivalent thread to this one: last 2 posts on 27 July, one before that on 22 July, a few before that on 20/21 July to discuss 122&123, and then 8 posts on 11/12 July to discuss 120&121. Yawn.

    I would agree that this is why you can't stay strictly on-topic. It would be different if we were all on the same schedule, getting one car per week, actively working to enhance/Code 3 that car, and having a 200-issue partwork. But I don't see that happening.
    My only concern with this model is whether I will be able to get a copy at the newsagents!!

    Wow, sorry about that! The Silver Cloud II is pretty bare-bones, although nowhere near as weak as the UH Silver Shadow II. Still, by painting the wheels (especially) and grille up to standard, in particular, this one is far from the Silver Shadow II's complete loss.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    Finally figured out how to upload photos :)) Here is the set I took at the start of the week. Nothing you've not seen just proving I can upload once again. I have to say I quite like this model.

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    I too like this JBCC thread its amazing that it is still going with nearly 5000 posts.

    Have we not been here before at the tail end of a proposed ending of the collection then bang it's all systems go and we have the excitement of another extention. At the risk of repeating myself if this is indeed the end at 135 then Eaglemoss or whoever is running the show should end it with a real special. Something of a gem , a proper collectors piece , a multi vehicle dare i say with figures in a sculpted diorama. Even offer it a price twice three times the usual issue price. What about some JBCC binders also for the 135 magazines. What about just simply a number of specials limited to subscibers only on first come first served basis? Please delete issues 128 Morris and 133 DB5 and replace with something else. Albeit the morris is a classic car but not another one they are everywhere , my little boy even won two toy versions last year in the arcade. The DB5 is already over represented in the collection, come on do we need another issue of this car albeit under the SKYFALL heading???
  • Rainier WolfcastleRainier Wolfcastle Posts: 484MI6 Agent
    how do you get pics to upload without them appearing as thumbnails that have to be clicked on to enlarge? I've never figured it out. Does it depend on what browser you use?
    You use postimage, and I don't think direct links work here - I've tried it myself. Other similar sites like imageshack allow direct links.

    FACT wrote:
    This thread (now one of the longest-running at AJB) was started by batester2005 back in March 2007 - he last posted in this thread (and on AJB at all) in Oct 2009, so I would say that it is safe to say that he has long since abandoned any "creative control" over the thread and it is now what we make it, not what he made it.
    Also, staying strictly on-topic leads to a lack of interaction - just go take a look at the MI6Community equivalent thread to this one: last 2 posts on 27 July, one before that on 22 July, a few before that on 20/21 July to discuss 122&123, and then 8 posts on 11/12 July to discuss 120&121. Yawn.
    True, but MI6 had this restart and before that their JBCC thread was a busy and interesting one. I think they lost a lot of members who didn't re-register, and even once prolific contributors don't write that much anymore. I remember that the French user Gerard (who is still there) did contribute quite a lot of interesting information. The collecting forum here is the busiest of those I read, on MI6 and CBn collecting is now almost nonexistent.

    Diecast007 wrote:
    Have we not been here before at the tail end of a proposed ending of the collection then bang it's all systems go and we have the excitement of another extention. At the risk of repeating myself if this is indeed the end at 135 then Eaglemoss or whoever is running the show should end it with a real special.
    When we thought the collection will end with 130 it was MCF who asked "Would they really end this collection with a milk float?" And right, although the intended order was kept (with a few exception which got pushed back) they added further models so that the milk float will not be the last. The same could be said of issue 135. A Rolls-Royce from Moonraker is a step up from a milk float (okay, two steps) but I think this is not the car to end this collection. If the Skyfall DB5 would have been assigned no. 135 on the German list, I would say okay, the JBCC (and the films) have now come full circle and that's it, nothing more to expect. But so I think 140 or 150 is still possible. But 150 should be the maximum in my opinion, I don't want to see it go to 200.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited August 2012
    Diecast007 wrote:
    Please delete issues 128 Morris and 133 DB5 and replace with something else.

    I really doubt they'll delete the latter, especially since they've paid the almost-certainly-astronomical royalty fees for it, but coming under such heavy fire about the Morris Minor, I do genuinely wonder about that particular issue.

    You might think I'll propose the UAZ-31512 to replace it. Actually no. I want the Glaspac! Admittedly, I'm coming at this from a pretty car-centric POV, but...has anyone seen anything on the market even resembling a factory-built, police-issue, road-legal dune buggy (and a real one at that, seeing as that scene in MR really was filmed along a highway that ran along Copacabana Beach)? And most importantly, outside of this collection, who's likely to make one? It would be a difficult Code 3, too...with the UAZ-31512, you could just take an UAZ-469B and Code 3 that. Ixo already has the moulds for the Glaspac; it's just that we've barely seen them. Since the policemen in it don't have any speaking role and are effectively extras, the price for figures would likely be incredibly low. If we can get away with the Savoy, why not this?
    A Rolls-Royce from Moonraker is a step up from a milk float (okay, two steps) but I think this is not the car to end this collection. If the Skyfall DB5 would have been assigned no. 135 on the German list, I would say okay, the JBCC (and the films) have now come full circle and that's it, nothing more to expect. But so I think 140 or 150 is still possible. But 150 should be the maximum in my opinion, I don't want to see it go to 200.

    Admittedly, ending on a milk float would be pretty odd, but ending on a Rolls-Royce? Depends on the person. Also, since we know the release schedule from here on out (that is, two models fortnightly), they may have changed things around to coincide with SF's opening over the collection itself...bear in mind, by the way, that Skyfall is going to premiere in the UK on October 26...

    August 9: 1973 Chevy Bel Air, 1986 Dodge Ram Pickup
    August 23: 1961 Chevy 1-Ton Stakebed Truck, Dodge M43 Ambulance
    September 6: Morris Minor 1000 Convertible, 1961 Ford Ranch Wagon
    September 20: 1986 Wales & Edwards Rangemaster Milk Float, 1973 Chevy Bel Air Police Car
    October 4: 1964 Lincoln Continental Convertible, Aston Martin DB5
    October 18: Land Rover Discovery 4, Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow I LWB

    The release of the Skyfall issues is very well-timed for UK subscribers AND the one-week-behind newsagents. Presumably, the magazines that accompany the cars will exposit things, but not give away plot points/be filled with spoilers. The Aston-Martin DB5 at 133 whets the appetite (well, okay, for some people, not all...), and just eight days before the film opens, they get the Land Rover Discovery 4, likely with some exposition of the film's plot. Since the newsagents in the UK will be a week behind, the timing of the release of both cars is even better. The Discovery 4 would literally hit the newsagents a day before SF was released! To be honest, I wonder if they merely did a five-car extension because of SF (the Bel Air would be a re-used mould, albeit a wanted one, the '64 Continental is likely something that we'd have seen anyway for PremiumX or PremiumX Diecast, and Ixo's finally getting a license to make Rolls-Royce products likely allows them to showcase a car they'll probably wind up re-using in RHD without US-spec trim, especially given that it's a LWB model).
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • Rainier WolfcastleRainier Wolfcastle Posts: 484MI6 Agent
    Admittedly, ending on a milk float would be pretty odd, but ending on a Rolls-Royce? Depends on the person.
    No, emphasis is on "Rolls-Royce from Moonraker." Although I think of the Silver Shadow as the affordable classic as far as RR's are concerned, so no need to bow down in awe, its role in Moonraker is what I really meant. In TMWTGG the Rolls (from the Peninsula hotel fleet) had some relevance for the film, even the milk float was used for the story. But the MR Rolls is just some car taking Bond from the airport, could also be a Ford LTD. Add to this that we had two Silver Shadows already, and this is nothing special. A fitting car for the last issue is one of the "real" Bond cars or one from an iconic scene. The 450 SEL would be perfect, or Goldfinger's Phantom III. Staying with Rolls, the AVTAK Silver Cloud to a lesser degree, but still acceptable as it was Cubby Broccoli's own car - relevant for James Bond. But one of the Silver Shadows, and especially the one from Moonraker? - No.
    Even if they add a few issues there is not much left that would make a proper last issue. The LTK Kenworth is the only one that comes to mind immediately.
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    Dal110 please understand as a car lover I respect the Morris minor is the definitive classic car in the uk . Hence thats why I don't want it in the collection as it has been done to death . From detailed diecasts to pull back friction kids toys maybe playing second fiddle to the mini. Even on tv anything set in the fifties, sixties or seventies the main characters will be seen driving a moggy. I don't dislike the car I just don't want another Morris minor. The eastern block cars sound more interesting
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    RW, OK point taken about MI6 - I didn't re-register there myself after the restart, but I still pop over once a week or so to see if anything's happening. True, this is a busy forum - just go three days without a post on a thread and it's already moved down to Page 2.

    Count my vote for no moggy drophead as well - as DC007 says, it's been done to death by everyone else already. I have Corgi Classics, Vanguards (=enhanced CC) and Saico ;% examples of the drophead in my collection already.

    DB110, I calculate the release schedule for UK subscribers would go like this:
    Week starting July 16: Mercedes 200D, Plymouth Savoy Istanbul Taxi -> received
    Week starting August 13: 1973 Chevy Bel Air, 1986 Dodge Ram Pickup
    Week starting September 10: 1961 Chevy 1-Ton Stakebed Truck, Dodge M43 Ambulance
    Week starting October 08: Morris Minor 1000 Convertible, 1961 Ford Ranch Wagon
    Week starting November 05: 1986 Wales & Edwards Rangemaster Milk Float, 1973 Chevy Bel Air Police Car
    Week starting December 03: 1964 Lincoln Continental Convertible, Aston Martin DB5
    Week starting December 31: Land Rover Discovery 4, Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow I LWB
    Pehaps someone who is still subscribing would confirm that billing schedule received about a month ago?

    The way things are going at the moment, my vote for the final issue would be for the SF DB5 - if we're going to get it anyway, it may as well be the final issue. EM is probably going to want to get it into the newsagents as close to the beginning of November, though, to cash in on the SF hype.

    So, anyone willing to agree that the SF DB5 will be sourced from Universal Hobbies? I'll be checking in on KINGsMODEL on ebay every so often just in case :)
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Even if they add a few issues there is not much left that would make a proper last issue.

    In that case, seeing as they will more than likely stick to 1/43 cars and light trucks, do you propose a re-ordering of the collection?
    Diecast007 wrote:
    I don't dislike the car I just don't want another Morris minor. The eastern block cars sound more interesting

    Given one car in 1/43 scale in standard case, what would you replace it with? The only reason I said the Glaspac over the UAZ-31512 is because...

    -The UAZ-31512, much as I'd love to see another model on Ixo's UAZ-469B mould, can itself be created with the help of a some resin enhancement kits, modelling paint, and indeed one of the Ixo UAZ-469B's, which are relatively available in one form or another.
    -The Glaspac is extremely difficult to get at a cheap price and a Code 3 with proper police livery would likewise be very difficult; with the slanting, rounded surfaces, it wouldn't lend itself to attaching a generic siren.
    -I'm sure somebody is going to make a nicely-detailed Russian Army UAZ-31512. There's certainly the demand for it inside and outside of Bond.
    -Would there really be enough initial demand vs. demand by exposure for a police Glaspac outside of Brazil? Most collectors do research on an upcoming issue for any partwork. Who'd have thought that things like the hearses, the ZIL-117, and Ford Country Squire would have skyrocketed in terms of sales?
    -The Glaspac is much more likely to have Brazilian police figures in it than the UAZ-31512 would to have Russian Army figures.

    That's my argument for the Glaspac Police Buggy. On the other hand, I would take the UAZ-31512 in a heartbeat over the Morris Minor.
    FACT wrote:
    DB110, I calculate the release schedule for UK subscribers would go like this:

    Whoops! I was counting every TWO issues fornightly, not every issue fortnightly! Sorry! :s
    The way things are going at the moment, my vote for the final issue would be for the SF DB5 - if we're going to get it anyway, it may as well be the final issue. EM is probably going to want to get it into the newsagents as close to the beginning of November, though, to cash in on the SF hype.

    I agree with this.
    So, anyone willing to agree that the SF DB5 will be sourced from Universal Hobbies?

    Considering Ixo already did a DB4, and also considering UH have been reduced to making cars they already have the moulds for, they might buy Ixo some time by doing this. I too will be following KINGsMODEL!
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    edited August 2012
    Not sure about which eastern block vehicle as I am not familiar with either that D110 has suggested. Each would be better than the Morris as out with the jbcc I would probably not buy the model anyway as the hook is the James bond link not the vehicle in this case.

    The db5 again is such an iconic car but do we really need a fourth issue of the same car within the series. Ok I will put it another way how many of us would buy all four db5 issues together sold as a set out with the jbcc, unlikely.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Firstly, welcome Westy! What scale are you modelling your DB5 in?
    Diecast007 wrote:
    Not sure about which eastern block vehicle as I am not familiar with either that D110 has suggested.

    Here's an UAZ-31512 (called a straight 3151 by IMCDB, which is wrong, because the wheelbase would be shorter) in GE...

    http://pics.imcdb.org/0is166/goldeneyeuaz3qo8.3414.jpg

    Here's the almost-identical UAZ-469B (the differences are under the hood) in TWINE...

    http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_20434-UAZ-469-B-1980.html

    Note that outside the DB5, the UAZ-469/UAZ-3151-series has appeared in more Bond films than any other vehicle, yellow Mokes included...

    -Background vehicle in TLD (belonged to a collector and was the original UAZ-469 with a lower suspension)

    -UAZ-31512's and (in the background) UAZ-469B's feature prominently in GE

    -Gupta makes his getaway from the terrorist arms bazaar in an UAZ-469B in TND (there are also plenty in the arms bazaar itself).

    -Many UAZ-469B's in particular are featured in TWINE; I'd be surprised if an UAZ-31512 did NOT pop up.

    -We see a couple UAZ-469B's in General Moon's personal convoy in the PTS. An older model UAZ-469 makes a bit more prominent of an appearance is the same PTS.

    If one counts the deleted scenes in TWINE, only the DB5 has been in more Bond films (it will officially reach said status in SF, but then, who knows? We may see an UAZ-469B in the background some place!)

    By contrast, the iconic Yellow Moke first appears in YOLT. It makes its second appearance in TSWLM. The third and final appearance of it (and it's pretty fleeting) is in MR.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    Firstly, welcome Westy! What scale are you modelling your DB5 in?
    Diecast007 wrote:
    Not sure about which eastern block vehicle as I am not familiar with either that D110 has suggested.

    Here's an UAZ-31512 (called a straight 3151 by IMCDB, which is wrong, because the wheelbase would be shorter) in GE...

    http://pics.imcdb.org/0is166/goldeneyeuaz3qo8.3414.jpg

    Here's the almost-identical UAZ-469B (the differences are under the hood) in TWINE...

    http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_20434-UAZ-469-B-1980.html

    Note that outside the DB5, the UAZ-469/UAZ-3151-series has appeared in more Bond films than any other vehicle, yellow Mokes included...

    -Background vehicle in TLD (belonged to a collector and was the original UAZ-469 with a lower suspension)

    -UAZ-31512's and (in the background) UAZ-469B's feature prominently in GE

    -Gupta makes his getaway from the terrorist arms bazaar in an UAZ-469B in TND (there are also plenty in the arms bazaar itself).

    -Many UAZ-469B's in particular are featured in TWINE; I'd be surprised if an UAZ-31512 did NOT pop up.

    -We see a couple UAZ-469B's in General Moon's personal convoy in the PTS. An older model UAZ-469 makes a bit more prominent of an appearance is the same PTS.

    If one counts the deleted scenes in TWINE, only the DB5 has been in more Bond films (it will officially reach said status in SF, but then, who knows? We may see an UAZ-469B in the background some place!)

    By contrast, the iconic Yellow Moke first appears in YOLT. It makes its second appearance in TSWLM. The third and final appearance of it (and it's pretty fleeting) is in MR.


    Any of the above would be better than the Morris and the db5. The UAZ says bond collection. The Morris says frank Spencer !!
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    If the JBCC finishes at 135, I think it's entirely appropriate if the last vehicle is a Skyfall DB5 since that was also the first car in the series. As I said before, I think in this case it's very much a matter of how the SF DB5 is displayed - if it is shown being chased by the helicopter, or in the factory setting, it should be a nice addition to the series.

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    If the series happens to run to 140 I think personally the last car should be the 'winterised' (standard) Living Daylights Aston Martin Vantage. A non-gadget version of this car is the last glaring omission from the whole series IMHO. It could be presented as shown in the pic below to pair up with the LD Lada (issue 118) and a nice touch would be if IXO/UH were to include a tiny 1.43 cello case.

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    I also have a suggestion for how the JBCC could present the Morris Minor - I'm sure you get the general idea!

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  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    FACT wrote:
    I'm looking forward to getting the Ford Consul (also sold out in the UK) from a car-centric angle, but as far as Bond-centric goes only the Lada Niva and the Mercedes 450 SEL hold any real attraction. The rest I am getting to complete the collection....

    I have a foot in both camps when it comes to car-centric/Bond-centric, a real 50/50 split. But from a Bond point of view I think personally you have some gems coming your way. The Bronco is very evocative of the end of Quantum, the Country Squire reeks of Goldfinger as does the Merc 180 (a real Bond-centric's edition IMHO). The Econoline was very memorable in Diamonds and love or hate it, the damaged Quantum DBS is for Bond-centrics only I reckon. It's amazing how often you receive one of these models with some degree of low expectation only to find it's surprisingly good, on all sorts of different levels.
    FACT wrote:
    As to on-topic/off-topic debate, I would prefer that we only discussed the JBCC, but I also have two points to throw in that go to the contrary:
    This thread (now one of the longest-running at AJB) was started by batester2005 back in March 2007 - he last posted in this thread (and on AJB at all) in Oct 2009, so I would say that it is safe to say that he has long since abandoned any "creative control" over the thread and it is now what we make it, not what he made it.
    Also, staying strictly on-topic leads to a lack of interaction - just go take a look at the MI6Community equivalent thread to this one: last 2 posts on 27 July, one before that on 22 July, a few before that on 20/21 July to discuss 122&123, and then 8 posts on 11/12 July to discuss 120&121. Yawn.

    Couldn't agree more. The alternative is to have long periods of nothing being said at all between releases. Surely it's better to be reading/replying to slightly off topic stuff periodically than to be looking at the same static page for days and weeks. And as you pointed out, apart from Batester2005 appearing to have long since left the building, the thread has evolved into something else, in exactly the same way the JBCC itself has evolved over the years. The early editions to which Batester2005 broadly refers in terms of 'praise only' were very different to what we are seeing now.
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    FACT wrote:
    I'm looking forward to getting the Ford Consul (also sold out in the UK) from a car-centric angle, but as far as Bond-centric goes only the Lada Niva and the Mercedes 450 SEL hold any real attraction. The rest I am getting to complete the collection....

    I have a foot in both camps when it comes to car-centric/Bond-centric, a real 50/50 split. But from a Bond point of view I think personally you have some gems coming your way. The Bronco is very evocative of the end of Quantum, the Country Squire reeks of Goldfinger as does the Merc 180 (a real Bond-centric's edition IMHO). The Econoline was very memorable in Diamonds and love or hate it, the damaged Quantum DBS is for Bond-centrics only I reckon. It's amazing how often you receive one of these models with some degree of low expectation only to find it's surprisingly good, on all sorts of different levels.
    FACT wrote:
    As to on-topic/off-topic debate, I would prefer that we only discussed the JBCC, but I also have two points to throw in that go to the contrary:
    This thread (now one of the longest-running at AJB) was started by batester2005 back in March 2007 - he last posted in this thread (and on AJB at all) in Oct 2009, so I would say that it is safe to say that he has long since abandoned any "creative control" over the thread and it is now what we make it, not what he made it.
    Also, staying strictly on-topic leads to a lack of interaction - just go take a look at the MI6Community equivalent thread to this one: last 2 posts on 27 July, one before that on 22 July, a few before that on 20/21 July to discuss 122&123, and then 8 posts on 11/12 July to discuss 120&121. Yawn.

    Couldn't agree more. The alternative is to have long periods of nothing being said at all between releases. Surely it's better to be reading/replying to slightly off topic stuff periodically than to be looking at the same static page for days and weeks. And as you pointed out, apart from Batester2005 appearing to have long since left the building, the thread has evolved into something else, in exactly the same way the JBCC itself has evolved over the years. The early editions to which Batester2005 broadly refers in terms of 'praise only' were very different to what we are seeing now.

    Likewise, my sentiments also .I am happy to talk anything cars, diecast, bond , toys it makes the thread interesting and also keeps it alive. Just to clarify my point that may have been mis understood in an earlier post was more about keeping it light and friendly which we all seem to be doing again.

    Yes off topic but related - I have just discovered the most amazing diecast model shop about three miles from my front door. Popped in yesterday and it was a treasure trove of all things diecast. Including Corgi james bond, the jbcc, corgi icons the vanguard range . I could have spent a fortune but held back and came away with the new corgi catalogue. :-)
  • dodgedavisdodgedavis Posts: 4MI6 Agent
    Hi there. I finally became a member of this site. Been reading since February since I first heard of this collection, and then started collecting the cars and magazines, mostly from the UK via eBay. I have been re-watching all the movies as I read through each issue, and I got to say, there is a glaring need for a green Willard White Ford LTD from Diamonds are Forever. There were lots of them in the movie, and it would be great if they portrayed one wrecked at the bottom of a sand dune! The Ford Econoline van was spectacular, but an LTD would fulfill a need for Bond cars!
  • dodgedavisdodgedavis Posts: 4MI6 Agent
    I am also looking forward to the Dodge Ram release, and I am estatic about getting the Plymouth Savoy!
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    Welcome Dodge Davis !

    I like your suggestions also
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited August 2012
    Welcome DodgeDavis! My dealer just shipped the Plymouth Savoy today and of course the '86 Ram Pickup is NOT far off.

    If Ixo made a Ford Custom 500 (the LTD had frameless doors* and the letters "LTD" on the hood rather than "FORD"), I'd love to see that, as well. However, considering the nature of the company, I doubt they'd make one all dented up. Now, they may very well may make one dirty as heck if the collection is somehow extended; you'd then likely see Ixo redo the doors and badging and then make the LTD version for PremiumX Diecast. Considering we saw most of Ford's 1971 line for that film, it was a bit odd they didn't use an LTD at some point, come to think of it!

    *Ford Custom 500 with door frames...

    http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8148/7168429156_664baaa88d_z.jpg

    1971 Ford LTD, note the doors...

    http://www.imcdb.org/i016218.jpg
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Welcome to the thread dodgedavis - your suggestion has been added to the 'missing' list - :)


    UNSEEN JBCC MODELS: Updated

    DN 1961 Chevrolet Impala Four-Door Sedan (This was Felix's Chase Car)
    DN Vauxhall Velox - Made by Corgi/Vanguards in the correct scale and colour
    DN Hillman Minx - Made by Corgi/Vanguards in the correct scale and colour
    FRWL Kerim Bey's Rolls-Royce Silver Wraith – made in resin?
    GF Merc 220S Odd Job car (in correct form)
    GF Willys M38 Korean War Jeep
    TB 1965 Lincoln Continental 4-door convertible (top up)
    TB Fiona Volpe's BSA motorcycle
    TB Ford Zephyr 6 - Made by Corgi/Vanguards in the correct scale and colour
    TB Triumph Herald Drophead Coupe – hardtop version made by Corgi/Vanguards
    TB Bomb Sled with Tow Sled outriders
    YOLT 1964 Dodge Polara 500 Sedan
    OHMSS 1968 Ford Escort Mk. I Rallye – Similar vehicle made by Corgi/Vanguards in the correct scale
    OHMSS Draco's Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow convertible
    OHMSS Bobsleds
    OHMSS Mercedes Minibus
    DAF Ford LVPD police car (blue/white)
    DAF green Willard White Ford LTD
    DAF 1971 Ford Thunderbird
    DAF Honda tricycle from Moonbuggy chase
    DAF Bathosub
    DAF Merc 600 grösse – Made by Vitesse in dark colours, correct scale
    LALD AEC REGENT Bus without top deck
    LALD Power boat crashed into side of Sheriff Pepper's car
    LALD 1973 Chevy Bel Air Louisiana State Police
    TMWTGG 1974 AMC Matador Sedan "Thai Police Car"
    TMWTGG 1955 Chevrolet One Fifty Two-Door Sedan
    TSWLM Wetbike with RM figure
    MR Shuttle
    MR Cable Car
    AVTAK American LaFrance Fire engine
    AVTAK 1984 Jeep Cherokee
    TLD Audi 200 Avant (but please a real 200 and no Audi V8 clone)
    TLD 59 Chevy Impala Convertible/ Street Rod – made by Road Champions in reddish colour, correct scale.
    TLD Standard (non-gadget) Aston Martin V8 Vantage or corrected Volante
    LTK Kenworth - made by New Ray in 1:43
    LTK Lincoln Mk. VII Coupe (Felix's Lincoln)
    LTK Mercury Grand Marquis Limousine
    LTK Utilimaster Aeromaster Van
    GE UAZ-469B/UAZ-31512 4x4
    GE Cagiva 350 with Bond on it (chasing the plane)
    TND BMW R1200C bike
    DAD Invisible Aston Martin Vanquish
    DAD Rocket sled
    CR Tanker Truck, battered under the wing of the Skyfleet prototype.
    CR Ford Mondeo - A similar Mondeo is made by Minichamps in the correct scale
    CR 2005 Škoda Octavia Police – Made by Abrex?
    CR Chevrolet G-Series Van (With DC on back before he jumps fence)
    CR International 4900 fuel truck (with DC on roof)
    CR Airport passenger bus or baggage trailer.
    SF Standard (non-gadget) Aston Martin DB5
    SF Jaguar XJL
    SF Land Rover half cab
    SF Modern Beetle - made by Ixo in the correct scale and colour

    NON-EON:

    CR E-Type - Made by Corgi/Vanguards in the correct scale and colour
    CR Ciroen DS 19
    CR Bedford Milk Truck – Oxford?
    NSNA Renault 5 turbo2
    NSNA Bentley 4.25 Litre
    NSNA Cortina – Corgi/Vanguards
    Olympics – FX4 Taxi
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    edited August 2012
    Re the DAF Fords, The Ford Cortina Mk 3 was running around in the UK at the same time - with more than a passing resemblance to its US cousins, I reckon.

    image.jpg
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited August 2012
    Re the DAF Fords, The Ford Cortina Mk 3 was running around in the UK at the same time - with more than a passing resemblance to its US cousins, I reckon.

    image.jpg

    To be honest, it looks like a mixture of an Aussie Ford XA Falcon Sedan and a '69 Mercury Montego up front. I think Ford Australia used this body (or at least a variant of it) on its XA four-door sedans before switching to the XB body, which was quite different. By the way, just noticed Vanguards makes a great model of this car!
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Re the DAF Fords, The Ford Cortina Mk 3 was running around in the UK at the same time - with more than a passing resemblance to its US cousins, I reckon.

    image.jpg

    To be honest, it looks like a mixture of an Aussie Ford XA Falcon Sedan and a '69 Mercury Montego up front. I think Ford Australia used this body (or at least a variant of it) on its XA four-door sedans before switching to the XB body, which was quite different. By the way, just noticed Vanguards makes a great model of this car!

    Apparently back in the 60's and early 70's Ford USA directed the designers at Ford UK (Dagenham) to take their styling leads from contemporary US Fords. They even sent some guy wearing cowboy boots over to the UK to head things up. This led to styling 'accents' being taken off US designs, the obvious one being tail fins on the Anglia, Zephyr, Zodiac etc and less well known but distinctive features like the round 'triple pie slice' tail-light on the mk 1 Cortina (not sure what US Ford that was stolen from). It's quite interesting to compare UK/US Fords of the time to figure out what features the UK designers nicked.

    The UK Ford Capri was actually based on the Ford Mustang, not so much in styling but marketing (even John Wayne was featured in a movie driving one). Like the Mustang it was an affordable sports saloon aimed at middle-earners, and became the sort of 'used' hit with younger drivers in the UK that used Mustangs were with younger petrol-heads in the US.

    Whether Ford USA did the same thing with either Ford Australia, Ford Germany or any other countries I don't know for sure. They certainly had Fords that weren't seen in the UK (Falcons, various pick ups) but I think many others were derived from, or shared principles of UK designs, such as the Taunus.

    Vanguards are due to release a very nice bright red 1.6 four door version very much like the mk3 Cortina I posted. I already have the 'Life on Mars' type, but am very tempted by this new one.............
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Apparently back in the 60's and early 70's Ford USA directed the designers at Ford UK (Dagenham) to take their styling leads from contemporary US Fords.

    Absolutely correct. My uncle works for Ford Europe and is a bit of an amateur historian on the topic. He contends that the Ford Capri (sold in the US as the Mercury Capri) was one of the biggest missed opportunities in US automotive history. They could basically have saved themselves making the Pinto AND the Maverick and come out swinging with a really well-designed import fighter. Likewise, it probably would not have met with the same hostility as the Japanese cars because when the Japanese cars came in and when the Volkswagen Beetle's popularity went up, there were a great many World War II veterans still around (and a great many sons and daughters of World War II veterans still around, for that matter, who were NOT rebelling against their parents by joining the counter-culture). By the same token, those WWII veterans likely would have remembered the UK as our strongest ally in WWII.
    The UK Ford Capri was actually based on the Ford Mustang, not so much in styling but marketing (even John Wayne was featured in a movie driving one). Like the Mustang it was an affordable sports saloon aimed at middle-earners, and became the sort of 'used' hit with younger drivers in the UK that used Mustangs were with younger petrol-heads in the US.

    Basically. Although by the 1970's, one could argue you were targeting the same audience that the Ford Maverick Grabber was targeted toward in the US (since it, and not the Mustang, was the real Pony Car from 1971-1973; in 1974, there was the horrid Mustang II that almost killed the marque and many people bought Maverick Grabbers instead).
    Whether Ford USA did the same thing with either Ford Australia, Ford Germany or any other countries I don't know for sure. They certainly had Fords that weren't seen in the UK (Falcons, various pick ups) but I think many others were derived from, or shared principles of UK designs, such as the Taunus.

    I know for a fact this was done very heavy-handedly at Ford Australia, especially prior to the XA and XB Falcons. I'd not be surprised to see it done with Ford Germany given how the Taunus looked over the years.
    Vanguards are due to release a very nice bright red 1.6 four door version very much like the mk3 Cortina I posted.

    Thanks for the heads-up! I'll be sure to look for it!
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    Just to add Ford really messed up when they introduced the Probe to the UK. It was the MK2 version of the car but it really did not enjoy the success it should of had. The car shared the same chassis and engine as the Mazda MX6 so no real reliability issues but the biggest error was they should have called it the Capri. Likewise it was soon culled off and replaced by the uninspired Cougar again not really a bad car though again maybe a better seller if called the Capri here in the UK. I used to own a two door Mk3 Cortina, great car, prices have shot up on the classic market certainly on the back of BBC's Life on Mars . I agree the vanguard versions are brilliant . I hope they bring out the MK2 also.
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
    Corgi have done Cortina Mark I through IV in their Vanguards series now. The Mark II is freely available on Ebay but not sure that they have re-released it in last couple of yearsince they have already done so many versions in previous years. Its also quite common at toyfairs at under a tenner.

    Maz
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    maz wrote:
    Corgi have done Cortina Mark I through IV in their Vanguards series now. The Mark II is freely available on Ebay but not sure that they have re-released it in last couple of yearsince they have already done so many versions in previous years. Its also quite common at toyfairs at under a tenner.

    Maz

    Thanks will check out eBay . Don't know how I missed that :-)
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    edited August 2012
    Thought I'd share this. It shows that certainly in terms of Ford, styling wasn't always one-way traffic from the US to the UK. In the mid 70's Ford UK produced a limited edition Mk2 Capri called the JPS or 'John Player Special' in black with the gold striping of JPS cigarette packaging (used on racing Lotuses at the time). Ford US must have liked the look of of it because they produced this for the US market as the Capri IIS:

    Capri.jpg

    Shortly afterwards the famous 'Smokey and the Bandit' Trans Am appeared in black with gold coachlining - possibly influenced by the JPS liveries too.
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    I received my second Plymouth Savoy yesterday within a week of phoning Database (I was originally sent a 122 Merc in error which they very kindly let me keep) so I assume supplies of the Savoy must be fairly plentiful right now. They've done a very nice job of the car IMHO, and the magazine is surprisingly good too :)
  • DokkDokk Posts: 382MI6 Agent
    A wee " Marlin " for your pleasure.
    Marlin_2.jpg -{ :007)
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