James Bond Car Collection - Questions and praise

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  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    Nice find, D110, that settles the question of exactly which policecar was going to be modelled {[] .

    The only news from my side is that I WAS able to get a copy of Issue 101 from the newsagent - I had feared missing it, like what happened to me with Issue 98. I must still track down a reasonably-priced 98 on ebay as that is also sold-out as a backcopy in the UK.

    MAZ, that was a neat series of pics of your Savoy "conversion" that you posted on the "grumpy old men's forum" (as I call it) - how about posting them here as well, I'm sure the guys here will also find them interesting :)

    C_M, if no-one responds, what you're looking for was posted about 10 pages back AFAIR.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited September 2012
    FACT wrote:
    Nice find, D110, that settles the question of exactly which policecar was going to be modelled {[] .

    Thanks! I also discovered it before the guy on the so-called "Grumpy Old Men's Forum" did (albeit completely by accident, as that seller also has a GAZ-12 ZIM Limousine with a paint scheme I've flat out never seen and figured he might have other new stuff). Yes, I lurk there ever since Maz gave me the URL (and FWIW, the initial criticism of the Neo 1969 Ford XL's grille bar was incorrect; I have a photo of my Dad standing next to the car he rented and while it's black and white, it's also clearly not body color; still, someone beat me to the punch on that one with color photos, so I'm still officially just a lurker). :)) I'd also second your request for the Code 3'd pics of the Savoy.
    The only news from my side is that I WAS able to get a copy of Issue 101 from the newsagent - I had feared missing it, like what happened to me with Issue 98. I must still track down a reasonably-priced 98 on ebay as that is also sold-out as a backcopy in the UK.

    Issue 101 does need some work, but if you've got any skill at all with paint, you should be able to give it the right enhancements. It's nowhere near what the UH Silver Shadow II issues are. By the way, I looked into whether or not this really was or was not Cubby Broccoli's car. It turns out it wasn't. Evidently, someone got the chassis number, found out the car is still registered, and it's basically a mixture of Bentley and Rolls-Royce parts. The hypothesis is that someone wanted a relatively bare-bones Rolls-Royce, but a Rolls-Royce nonetheless. However, the speculation that they sank a Bentley and not this car was of course correct.

    By the way, to enhance Issue 98, find a wrecked Solido Corniche. There are quite a few here, actually. Remove the wheels and axles and put the Solido wheels and axles in there. You'll have to slightly widen the axle channels, but it won't show (EDIT: you COULD simply take a plastic-headed hammer and tap the Solido axle through to prevent mushrooming at the end since the eyelets for the axles are wide enough, but it would be painfully slow and the wheels would suddenly be incapable of rolling). Once you have the car in hand, you'll see what I mean by that. The ground clearance still isn't correct, but the car looks a million times better.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • BleuvilleBleuville Posts: 384MI6 Agent
    Dokk wrote:
    Chevy Bel Air..2 Figures, Driver & rear seat passenger. No white wall tyres.
    -{ :007)
    Bel_1.jpg

    Bel_2.jpg

    As well as 124-The Chevy Bel Air I fished out 22- The Corvorado and then you put on the LALDie Soundtrack CD
    on track 4 - Whisper Who Dares for the appropriate music ! or just play the DVD film version scene.

    Bleuville. "Look after Mr.Bond- see that some harm comes to him ! "
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
    I'll post the savoy pics at the weekend when I have more time to upload and may have put it back together again. To those who don't read grumpy old Men's forum (Forum 43) when you take car apart take off the plastic roof as one unit with windows in there is no need to remove the windows and take care with the taxi sign box... Luckily I have a car that Fabbri replaced to experiment with. I may just remake as a stock sedan there are so few of those around it would be nice to have one. How many 1957 Chevy 150 models do you know of? Didly squat - yet there are Bel Air models in every scale in profusion....
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited September 2012
    maz wrote:
    How many 1957 Chevy 150 models do you know of? Didly squat

    In this case, there might be a legitimate reason for that: the 1957 Chevy 150 was a very poor seller and technically had no equivalent model for 1959 (the 1958 renamed iteration, the Delray, was a disaster). It would be more at home on an "automotive oddity" list for its rarity and generally spectacular sales failure than as a "bare bones sedan". The lineup for 1957 sedans looked like this...

    -Chevrolet Bel Air (top of the line AND middle of the line, since the four-door and two-door sedans were far less expensive than the hardtop and coupe)
    -Chevrolet 210 (effectively the bottom of the line due to the 150's catastrophic sales drop-off; again, this would actually be a really nice car to see modeled)
    -Chevrolet 150 (the true bottom of the line, but the problem was that instead of in 1956, where you had the 2-door and 4-door Bel Airs minimized, the decision to mass produce those Bel Airs as a middle of the line car made the 150 obsolete)

    What's even starker is their production figures. In 1956, they should have known that something was wrong. Sales were dropping dramatically, although they weren't "critically bad"...note that I'm avoiding station wagon production figures...

    150: 143,807 produced (not counting wagons)

    210 (excluding wagons): 583,959 produced

    Bel Air (excluding wagons): 647,899 produced

    And remember, this is 1956, not even 1957 yet. To the average salesperson, it's obvious that you need the 210, but there were almost six times as many Bel Airs as 150's. The 210 did actually outnumber the other two lines with station wagons, but once again, the 150 fell at the bottom, and it wasn't close. This leads us to the disaster that was 1957. The sales figures at first look good for the 150, but you have to account that the US entered into its worst economic recession since World War II (there would be several worse to come, but it was significant and usually is forgotten)...

    150 (excluding wagons): 131,340 produced

    210 (excluding wagons): 276,809 produced

    Bel Air (excluding wagons): 668,742

    Only one sedan model, the Bel Air, increased production from 1956 to 1957. This was due in large part to the four-door sedan variant, something we actually have not seen modelled. But the 210 is a bit deceptive. In 1956, a further 153,682 Chevy 210 wagons were produced. In 1957, 166,414 Chevy 210 wagons were produced. The 150 saw 1,253 more wagons sell, true, but neither sold even 15,000. Likewise, the Bel Air never broke 34,000 wagons in either year. Clearly, the 210 was being kept alive because the station wagon was selling not only well, but extremely well. Then we have 1958, when Chevy renamed all their product lines...remember, these are new cars in the midst of a recession...

    -Delray (Effectively took the place of the 150): 158,000 produced
    -Biscayne (Took the place of the 210): 100,000 built
    -Bel Air (The down-market/middle-market '57 Bel Air, basically): 532,000 produced
    -Impala (New line/up-market Bel Air): 60,000 produced

    But in 1959, in anticipation of the economic recession ending, the Delray (i.e., the newly-renamed 150) gets dropped and the Impala maintains its "new line" image. In other words, the Impala isn't analogous to anything from the 150/210/Bel Air line. As such...

    1959 Biscayne: 311,800 produced
    1959 Bel Air: 447,100 produced
    1959 Impala: 407,200 produced

    Both the 210 and subsequently the Biscayne show up in both police usage as well as taxi fleets. The 150, interestingly, isn't offered there. Basically, I think Chevy made the mistake of deciding to continue building (because the 150 exists for quite a while before 1956) a car that was basically a bit too "bare-bones".

    But I digress. Back to Bond! :)) We actually see a 1955 Chevrolet 150 2-door sedan from TMWTGG, where it goes flying through the air after the driver and Sheriff Pepper start shouting at one another. This would actually be a pretty nice car to model, because 1955 was really the 150's last hurrah as a "plain-Jane" sedan that actually *did* sell pretty well.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Unless I'm mistaken, the 55 Chevy 150 was Harrison Ford's black beast in American Graffiti as well (any real car enthusiast should remember that movie!) I don't remember it in TMWTGG but it's been a while since I watched that one. The 55 was never as pretty as the ubiquitous 57 Bel Air, but certainly made a much tougher looking hot rod.

    Really looking forward to the 1973 Chevrolet Bel Air Louisiana State Police car, nice find there, Dalko!

    I got 124 and 125 last Friday, within a week of ordering them as back issues. 123 arrived really quickly too - it seems this side of the JBCC's business is speeding up too as well as the release schedule. Looking at the Ram, I see no reason why it shouldn't be turned around to face the other way, as in 'coming out of the flames' (albeit too clean) if anybody wants the front of it displayed.
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    We actually see a 1955 Chevrolet 150 2-door sedan from TMWTGG, where it goes flying through the air after the driver and Sheriff Pepper start shouting at one another. This would actually be a pretty nice car to model, because 1955 was really the 150's last hurrah as a "plain-Jane" sedan that actually *did* sell pretty well.

    I've always thought that crash scene in TMWTGG was so random - I suppose it had comedy value in line with the Moore style of movies, but some nice 20+ year old cars got totalled in the process.
    Schuco did a 1/43 Opel Olympia Caravan in grey like the one the Chevy crashes into in that scene - something that might be useful to know if one wanted to do a pre-impact replica of this scene (and assuming a Chevy 150 could be modelled as well, as well as the Chrysler? that takes the initial impact).
    http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_18140-Chevrolet-One-Fifty-1502-1955.html
    http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_194064-Opel-Caravan-1953.html

    The mixture of LHD and RHD cars in Bangkok in the 1970s was bizarre - very few countries would allow that nowadays in our more safety-conscious times! Check this scene as an example:
    http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_18138-Ford-Taunus-TC1-1971.html

    DB110, this may interest you: I have just received the September issue of Model Collector magazine (which might sound like it's the current one but the October issue is already out in the UK) - it has a six-page article by Alex Cameron called "Kremlin Cars", on the cars used by the "ruling class" in Russia after the revolution and the models made of them: starting with the Leningrad L-1 followed by various ZIS/ZIL and GAZ cars. All quite interesting and many references to those East European partworks that you collect.
    The magazine can be ordered through the myhobbystore website although the postage cost to the USA would be more than the magazine itself :# Probably wouldn't tell you anything you don't already know anyway!
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited September 2012
    Unless I'm mistaken, the 55 Chevy 150 was Harrison Ford's black beast in American Graffiti as well (any real car enthusiast should remember that movie!) I don't remember it in TMWTGG but it's been a while since I watched that one. The 55 was never as pretty as the ubiquitous 57 Bel Air, but certainly made a much tougher looking hot rod.

    You see it in Bangkok, of all places. And yes, the '55 Chevy 150 was of course Harrison Ford's anachronistically-engined hot rod (the prop department put a 454 big block that hadn't yet been designed under the hood...). It's just personal taste, but while I agree about '55 and '57, I always thought the '56 and '58 Chevys were the nicest-looking. But yes, the '55 certainly was "built up".
    Really looking forward to the 1973 Chevrolet Bel Air Louisiana State Police car, nice find there, Dalko!

    Thanks! I'm really looking forward to it as well!
    I got 124 and 125 last Friday, within a week of ordering them as back issues. 123 arrived really quickly too - it seems this side of the JBCC's business is speeding up too as well as the release schedule. Looking at the Ram, I see no reason why it shouldn't be turned around to face the other way, as in 'coming out of the flames' (albeit too clean) if anybody wants the front of it displayed.

    The Ram is supposedly on its way to me. As for "too clean", just burn a couple of match sticks and rub them into the paint. Make sure they're really burnt (i.e. burn them in a glass) so they go on as a very fine, graphite-like powder. Takes a couple matches to actually cover the area you want to have simulated as scorched, but it cleans up really easily should you ever want you get rid of it. Rubbing gently over the hubcaps and body paint (but not the tampo-printing) with an eraser helps them stick, in my experience. If you want your truck crispy, give it a try. :))
    FACT wrote:
    DB110, this may interest you: I have just received the September issue of Model Collector magazine (which might sound like it's the current one but the October issue is already out in the UK) - it has a six-page article by Alex Cameron called "Kremlin Cars", on the cars used by the "ruling class" in Russia after the revolution and the models made of them: starting with the Leningrad L-1 followed by various ZIS/ZIL and GAZ cars. All quite interesting and many references to those East European partworks that you collect.
    The magazine can be ordered through the myhobbystore website although the postage cost to the USA would be more than the magazine itself

    Firstly, I too agree about the Chevy 150 and the Opel...that was a little too random, wasn't it? I also agree the LHD and RHD mixture was bizarre, although Japan in the late 1950's and early 1960's was much the same. The US importers didn't have to alter their cars' steering wheels, only the side mirrors.

    Sounds like a very interesting article, and by the way, I try and collect pretty much every Soviet limo variant available. Two I don't have that are planned and have been done by a company called Moscow Models, respectively, are Lenin's black Rolls-Royce (Spark Models will release one) and Lenin's Rolls-Royce Kegresse halftrack (one of the more bizarre Rolls-Royces ever made...I'm not sure who is currently equipped to do this one, but I do look forward to it should it ever be released). I'll definitely look into it, especially since I'm considering an article for a model railroad publication as it pertains to Soviet cars as "background cars" due to their American-inspired looks with regards to their larger sedans/wagons and trucks.
    Probably wouldn't tell you anything you don't already know anyway!

    I'm quite honored, but I figure there's always something I can learn from articles similar to as the one you describe. And plenty of pictures. :)
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    I got 124 and 125 last Friday, within a week of ordering them as back issues. 123 arrived really quickly too - it seems this side of the JBCC's business is speeding up too as well as the release schedule. Looking at the Ram, I see no reason why it shouldn't be turned around to face the other way, as in 'coming out of the flames' (albeit too clean) if anybody wants the front of it displayed.

    The Ram is supposedly on its way to me. As for "too clean", just burn a couple of match sticks and rub them into the paint. Make sure they're really burnt (i.e. burn them in a glass) so they go on as a very fine, graphite-like powder. Takes a couple matches to actually cover the area you want to have simulated as scorched, but it cleans up really easily should you ever want you get rid of it. Rubbing gently over the hubcaps and body paint (but not the tampo-printing) with an eraser helps them stick, in my experience. If you want your truck crispy, give it a try. :))

    Oh yeah......crispy fried Dodge Ram sounds like a tempting little code3 project to me!!! :D
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Oh yeah......crispy fried Dodge Ram sounds like a tempting little code3 project to me!!! :D

    A terrific suggestion from Dad regarding the burned matchsticks:

    "Tell whoever it is to cut the match heads off and then put the sticks in a coffee grinder. Just a cheap one; it should still work just as well. That way, you get a much more 'dust-like' effect, which is what you want with scorched metal." Hope that helps! :)
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • Kai RoweKai Rowe Posts: 37MI6 Agent
    My interest in American cars cuts off at 1973 with the death of the huge engines and with Mercedes about 1980.Some really knowlegeable people on this forum.The James Bond car collection has served my interest in this period of automobilia exceedingly well.I ve recently re-subsribed to it via my newsagent and am playing catch-up on Ebay with a few I missed(Ford Taunus,Kawasaki and Sidecar and white Turbo Esprit are top of my wants at the moment).
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Kai Rowe wrote:
    My interest in American cars cuts off at 1973 with the death of the huge engines and with Mercedes about 1980.Some really knowlegeable people on this forum.The James Bond car collection has served my interest in this period of automobilia exceedingly well.I ve recently re-subsribed to it via my newsagent and am playing catch-up on Ebay with a few I missed(Ford Taunus,Kawasaki and Sidecar and white Turbo Esprit are top of my wants at the moment).

    I don't think you'll regret re-subscribing. For people who love cars and like Bond, I think there's something for just about every taste in this series, especially now in its current form as it seems to be getting more and more diverse.

    If you like pre 1980 American classic cars/ hot rods and live in the UK, I can recommend a TV series on Freeview called 'South Beach Classics' Sundays 9pm + 9.30pm on Quest - well worth a watch :)
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Okay, I should be getting the Dodge Ram pretty soon! So, good news on that front!
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    First auction spotted for the Chevrolet C30 truck, Issue #126:
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320978583550
    The mirrors on this one appear to be mounted badly (?)

    It appears to have the long Ixo box.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    FACT wrote:
    First auction spotted for the Chevrolet C30 truck, Issue #126:
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320978583550
    The mirrors on this one appear to be mounted badly (?)

    It appears to have the long Ixo box.

    Thanks for finding that one, FACT! Honestly, I wasn't expecting flowers. I just think it would have been too hard. On the other hand, we may still get figures (Tanya wasn't in the truck bed for the duration, after all). On the good side, it looks like we got the smokestacks missing from the Corgi version, though. It's true that the side mirror seems bent on this one, although given that it was the first one to appear, it may be the exception rather than the rule. Can hardly wait for both better photos of this model as well as photos of the Dodge Ambulance.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • WinnieWinnie Posts: 129MI6 Agent
    Would i be correct in thinking that the Chevrolet C30 could be the largest model yet?I have the corgi version which i bought a while back,thinking that the C30 was not going to be included in the collection.This model should blow that one out of the water in every aspect.I'm Looking forward to this particular model.
    The collection has certainly improved recently,apart from the warped diorama background,i've no complaints.The fortnightly intervals have also helped,in my opinion. The Dodge,if done well,should be great as well.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Winnie wrote:
    Would i be correct in thinking that the Chevrolet C30 could be the largest model yet?

    I'd bet in terms of width and height, yes. However, the LaSalle/Miller Hearse is actually longer. No, really. The Chevrolet Apache 1-Ton (note: this truck is actually not a C30) is deceptively large-looking; it's actually not all that big (for an idea of scale, watch Sean Connery drive it onto the dock and get out). Meanwhile, the LaSalle is deceptively small-looking. However, there's no question Ixo is using the long case. The visible sculpting looks excellent, and there's no question it will be nicer than the Corgi.

    EDIT: By the way, looking at the diorama, it seems to be physically ON the dock. I'm wondering if they decided to go for an ultra-detailed model without figures; technically, they could get away with Bond going away in the boat. Alternately, we could still have figures, but in the cab only.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    The Chevrolet Apache is the 10th-to-last release so only 9 more "reveals" and then we're done (ASSUMING, of course, that Eaglemoss stick to 135 as the final number of issues!).
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    FACT wrote:
    The Chevrolet Apache is the 10th-to-last release so only 9 more "reveals" and then we're done (ASSUMING, of course, that Eaglemoss stick to 135 as the final number of issues!).

    Yes, there does seem to be a distinct lack of finality, doesn't there?
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • jacko008jacko008 Posts: 31MI6 Agent
    Hi.
    Just put my car collection #1 - 111 on ebay.
    All still in original packaging.
    £600 or best offer.
    Hope a forum member gets them. :)
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
    What is going on... Database warehouse out of lines or with silly queue lengths 13 people... Have they double charged people or have people heard collection is going to 200 or something... even checked wikipedia to see if that had changed but nothing there....
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    maz wrote:
    What is going on... Database warehouse out of lines or with silly queue lengths 13 people... Have they double charged people or have people heard collection is going to 200 or something... even checked wikipedia to see if that had changed but nothing there....

    I'm hearing about issues with the '61 Chevy Apache 1-Ton's side mirrors...a literal vast majority of them are bent.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
    Another day where database warehouse either cant take calls or has a huge queue. Must be a major problem for UK subscribers. I think I'll wait to order models in a couple of days. Guess they will end up scrapping shipment again and asking IXO to send another batch to cover complaints. So watch out for the models arriving on EBay from NE seller possibly with faulty mirrors.... Must affect profitability and hence chances of extension.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    maz wrote:
    Another day where database warehouse either cant take calls or has a huge queue. Must be a major problem for UK subscribers. I think I'll wait to order models in a couple of days. Guess they will end up scrapping shipment again and asking IXO to send another batch to cover complaints. So watch out for the models arriving on EBay from NE seller possibly with faulty mirrors.... Must affect profitability and hence chances of extension.

    With regard to the last sentence...highly possible. The guy who supplies me with my models literally went through half a dozen to find *one* with straight mirrors (which will go to me). He's rather angry at that, obviously, and most of his models will likely go back to where they came from. Apparently, the side mirrors come somewhat close to touching the sides of the perspex case and as such, were probably not properly packed when shipped out of China.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    One of my collecting areas is US militaria and when I have bought Corgi WW2 or Vietnam War tanks in the past, they have occasionally arrived with the skinny plastic machine gun barrels or other parts bent out of shape. To fix the problem, I dipped the plastic part (usually still attached to the model) into a full cup of hot water, (just the plastic part, not the entire model). This allowed the plastic to soften slightly, just enough to straighten the part back into its correct shape. Whilst still holding the part, I then dipped it in cold water, i.e. carefully holding it under a slow running cold tap, which re-hardened it. This has always worked for me and from the overhead pics we've seen so far of the Chevy Apache, I bet it would work with the offending mirror. However, it's always best to practice with an old toy car first (borrow one of the kids' toys once they've gone to bed, they won't notice) before messing around with a brand new model. Failing that, the bent mirror may not be as bad as feared when seen from the side - also, the truck was actually in an 'action/fight/chase sequence' so it could be argued that the bent mirror is just 'collateral damage'.


    Does anybody actually know what issue 127 is yet, or did I miss that?
  • BleuvilleBleuville Posts: 384MI6 Agent
    FACT wrote:
    The Chevrolet Apache is the 10th-to-last release so only 9 more "reveals" and then we're done (ASSUMING, of course, that Eaglemoss stick to 135 as the final number of issues!).

    While 135 total models appears on Wikipedia and callers enquiries, we haven't had any official slip of paper in
    the magazine saying it goes beyond 130 total. So will it finish sooner than we think ?

    We seem to find out about numbers on this forum, rather than from "the horse's mouth" or Eaglemoss.

    If only someone would produce the 30 or so model suggestions on the "Wish list" of Bond cars. (unlikely).

    Bleuville.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Does anybody actually know what issue 127 is yet, or did I miss that?

    Not out yet, but it will be the US Army Dodge Ambulance.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Does anybody actually know what issue 127 is yet, or did I miss that?

    Not out yet, but it will be the US Army Dodge Ambulance.

    That should be a cracking model IMHO, can't wait :)
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Bleuville wrote:
    FACT wrote:
    The Chevrolet Apache is the 10th-to-last release so only 9 more "reveals" and then we're done (ASSUMING, of course, that Eaglemoss stick to 135 as the final number of issues!).

    While 135 total models appears on Wikipedia and callers enquiries, we haven't had any official slip of paper in
    the magazine saying it goes beyond 130 total. So will it finish sooner than we think ?

    We seem to find out about numbers on this forum, rather than from "the horse's mouth" or Eaglemoss.

    If only someone would produce the 30 or so model suggestions on the "Wish list" of Bond cars. (unlikely).

    Bleuville.

    Apparently Daniel Craig has signed up for two more Bond movies (thank God they didn't give it to some nerd from Twilight or any other housewives/ teenage girls' favourite!) so if the Bond movie and Bond car following remains strong enough, the JBCC might have legs on it yet.
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