James Bond Car Collection - Questions and praise

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  • WinnieWinnie Posts: 129MI6 Agent
    Is issue 128 the Morris Minor?This could be acceptable as long as some effort is made with figures and diorama.
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Winnie wrote:
    Is issue 128 the Morris Minor?This could be acceptable as long as some effort is made with figures and diorama.

    It would certainly make sense to issue the Minor after what appears to be a great model in the Dodge Ambulance. The JBCC may be hoping everyone will be so blown away by the Dodge that they won't notice the dreaded Minor sneaking past a bit later.

    I'm just wondering if this new, larger plastic box for 127 is big enough to take a Kenworth tractor unit? Or Pepper's police car complete with speedboat on top? Or is that just wishful thinking?
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
    I don't want to get your hopes up... BUt it is pretty tall box and a speedboat boat on top of a 80s american car may go. Not so sure about Kenworth it would depend on how much is fitted to roof, high exhausts etc..... from plinth to top of box is about 8.75 cm.
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
    Sorry forgot yes 128 is the Morris Minor Convertible according to mag. Really wonder how I got pics in first ordered this from the back issues web site....
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    maz wrote:
    With IXO I bet they will or will closely enough for minor surgery to work. I bet they already have slides to cast the body without the well for the laser already and I am pretty sure this will turn up in Atlas 1/43 military simply becasue there is not as much 1/43 around for atlas to re-badge

    Maz, I do indeed have the correct bits, so I'm going to give it a go (ordered two; one to cut up, one to leave in original condition). However, the thing about the Dodge M43 was that it wasn't used in World War II like most of the Atlas 1/43. It was VERY common fare during the Korean War in the US Army, but also only saw very minimal service during the first stages of the Vietnam War. US Army Advisers had these early on, and possibly the Marine Corps during the Vietnam War proper, but I doubt if the Army still had many of them. It's honestly such an obscure design that I'm not really sure how they'll handle it.
    I'm just wondering if this new, larger plastic box for 127 is big enough to take a Kenworth tractor unit? Or Pepper's police car complete with speedboat on top? Or is that just wishful thinking?

    Someone emailed me the box dimensions. The answers are "almost certainly" and "absolutely not", respectively. Remember, the boat goes through the car SIDEWAYS. And the boat is actually longer than Sheriff Pepper's Impala, too. If it hits the car almost dead on horizontally, that's the only way it fits. The Kenworth cab, on the other hand, is different story. There's no way you could get the trailer in there, but the cab? I bet you could, actually. And Ixo could probably turn that around for a profit, too (ten will get you one that the forthcoming "Ist Trucks" line leads to a "Premium X Diecast Trucks" line), so it's not as if it doesn't fit their MO. But yes, the Morris Minor is the next issue, then we get the '61 Ford Ranch Wagon, then the Wales & Edwards Rangemaster Milkfloat, then the '73 Bel Air Louisiana State Police Car, then the '64 Lincoln Continental Convertible, then the DB5, then the Land Rover Discovery 4, and then the Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow I LWB, and then I don't really have any clue.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
    Dodge ambulance is shown in credits of MASH if I remember rightly so maybe throw in a jeep and you have a set.
  • PREP245PREP245 Posts: 3MI6 Agent
    Being an avid police car collector I was happy to see that the Louisiana SP Chevy is already showing up on Ebay. Several are on there and by typing in "Louisiana State Police" in their search you should come across them. No boxes or backgrounds just the car themselves. Looks like Spectre may have some operatives in the Chinese factories. :D
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    PREP245 wrote:
    Being an avid police car collector I was happy to see that the Louisiana SP Chevy is already showing up on Ebay. Several are on there and by typing in "Louisiana State Police" in their search you should come across them. No boxes or backgrounds just the car themselves. Looks like Spectre may have some operatives in the Chinese factories. :D

    Welcome to the forum PREP245! (Thought: I wonder how many other threads reach page 200? Some contributors here were just children when this one started!)

    Regarding police cars, hopefully we might see one or two more police vehicles before the series ends - maybe one of the London cop cars from Skyfall?
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    Just received 127 and 128 as part of my subscription. WOW, i can only underline what has been said already these models are the business. The chevy is brilliant but the star of the collection is the amazing Dodge M43 ambulance. The box it came in is also impressive and like MCF has suggested this lends itself to many more exciting larger models. To confirm again it is the dreaded moggy as issue 130 but if it comes with figures and is of the similar standard to these two then i will be more than happy.

    I also took some photos enjoy:-

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    As you have seen already and with my photos both issues are fanatastic. With these and the previous four issues this certainly has rejuvenated my enthusiasm for the collection and i hope this may inspire a further extention. There are a number of vehicles worthy of a place that if produced to this standard its win win win for us the collectors, the ebay sellers and ultimately eaglemoss ! :) Especially as we are weeks away from SKYFALL and all the new hype that bond will generate once again.

    The kenworth is a must !! Even as a one off special to conclude the collection ! :)
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Great photos Diecast007 - thanks for posting! Can't wait to see these two when Postman Pat delivers them.

    On the new large box, even if it's not going to be used for a Kenworth cab (hopefully it will) I reckon personally it will be used for something we don't yet know about, I can't believe they would go to all that trouble for just one model.

    Here's something else to share that's just been posted on another forum, someone's done a stunning figure set and diorama for the Quantum Range Rover:


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    When you consider how tiny these figures are, the sculpting, painting and detail is amazing.
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    I agree, alot of effort for one model ???

    This diorama is superb, just shows with the addition of figures and these are
    Particularly good ones it makes a simple model turn into a very nice collectors piece!
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    Thanks for the pics, DC007 & MCF - both sets are great!

    I think I will rotate my Dodge on its base when I eventually get one - I may need to watch the movie again but I seem to remember that the laser ought to be pointing at the metal door shown on the card.
  • pjfthompsonpjfthompson Posts: 61MI6 Agent
    just in this is the biggest the best you know the rest
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  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    FACT wrote:
    Thanks for the pics, DC007 & MCF - both sets are great!

    I think I will rotate my Dodge on its base when I eventually get one - I may need to watch the movie again but I seem to remember that the laser ought to be pointing at the metal door shown on the card.

    I think that we was me putting the box on the wrong way when i took photos this morning
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    just in this is the biggest the best you know the rest
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    both models are big and the boxes are bigger tha anything we have had before. This certainly hints at other large models, if not , why not as the collection is certainly back on track . More of the same please !!!!!!
  • yourmovemrbondyourmovemrbond Posts: 61MI6 Agent
    could someone please measure the height of this issue 127 box for me?
    Diecast007 wrote:
    just in this is the biggest the best you know the rest
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    both models are big and the boxes are bigger tha anything we have had before. This certainly hints at other large models, if not , why not as the collection is certainly back on track . More of the same please !!!!!!
  • yourmovemrbondyourmovemrbond Posts: 61MI6 Agent
    hello, thanks for posting pics.......do you think you could post the exact measurements of the box........i have to post a few of these to collector friends and i think they are too big for the cardboard boxes i have already.....many thanks
    just in this is the biggest the best you know the rest
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  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Firstly, kudos to everyone for posting these new photos! Now, to answer a few questions...
    On the new large box, even if it's not going to be used for a Kenworth cab (hopefully it will) I reckon personally it will be used for something we don't yet know about, I can't believe they would go to all that trouble for just one model.

    Well, they're also developing cases for Ist Trucks (check out photos of the originals at Nuernberg and you can see the cases weren't tall enough to accomodate some of the planned models!), so we were bound to get a real big one at some time or another if the occassion called for it. But, Ixo being Ixo, a Kenworth truck cab seems the most likely course of action should they decided to re-use it. They're eager to show that they can do trucks, so I honestly think that we might be able to expect this one in 1/43 scale. With this box, though, it wouldn't be a one-off special. You could fit the whole cab in there.
    Diecast007 wrote:
    Especially as we are weeks away from SKYFALL and all the new hype that bond will generate once again.

    To be honest, with SF's astronomical licensing costs, I'm wondering if this isn't "making up for lost time"; going back and re-visiting some comparatively minor issues with superb diorama, vehicle, and in some cases figure detail. In other words, I've got a sneaking suspicion that while we won't see too many other SF cars, I do bet that...
    1) There is an expansion and...
    2) Ixo will do their darndest to get the best out of it.

    I wouldn't think 145 would be asking too much, personally. Personally, I hope it goes on forever, but I don't see Ixo having the resources since they're going to get hit with designing on order of THIRTY moulds in December for the USSR Auto Legends collection. But with 145, you still keep shipping two issues at a time and you could get away with some awfully nice vehicles. Just remember that Ixo is always about re-marketing and re-branding, but even in spite of that, as we've seen from about the '73 Bel Air onwards, it's not preventing them from giving us good dioramas or figures (primarily because they're using the same figure maker that they used for La Route Bleue...I'm not sure if this is Ixo itself or someone they just regularly subcontract out to)...

    136. 1971 Ford Custom 500 LV Sheriff's Car, DAF. The 1971 Ford Custom 500 (basically the Galaxie with a different B-pillar) is of course the car that chases Tiffany's Mustang in DAF. With a figure of the LV Sheriff, I hardly think it would be a "generic" issue. Also, Ixo has planned a '71 Galaxie for a long while now. Not only does this give them an excuse to revive the mould, it was also one of the single-most widely-used American (and Canadian!) police cars since the end of WWII. It was also the choice of the NYC Transit Authority Police, which would be a VERY desirable livery should Ixo use it a Premium X Diecast model.
    137. Jaguar XJ-L, SF. I said they'd have to make fewer SF cars due to the budget, not eliminate them. Given the popularity of the real deal and that this car seems to have a significant role in SF, I'd really be surprised if it DIDN'T show up in some form.
    138. 1961 Chevrolet Impala Sport Sedan, DN. Felix's car. It was technically the first car chase Bond ever got into, and with a miniature Jack Lord in the passenger seat and a faceless CIA guy in the driver's seat, I think it would look great. Heck, even without that, it would look great.
    139. UAZ-31512, GE. Preferably in neutral with a Russian soldier firing an AK-74 while leaning out the window. We've actually never had someone actively leaning out of a vehicle firing a gun (both the assassins in the Toyopet Crown and Irma Bunt in the Mercedes-Benz 600 SWB are about to fire, not actually firing...Bond gets close in the Tuk-Tuk, but he isn't actually blasting away with an automatic weapon), and Ixo has the moulds.
    140. Rolls-Royce Silver Wraith, FRWL. Beautiful car, no matter how minor its role. Bond and Kerim may or may not make an appearance in the 1961 Ford Ranch Wagon (Issue 129, so right after the Morris Minor), but admit it: you probably remember this car from the movie just as well, even though the Ranch Wagon played a bigger role. Plus Ixo gets to flaunt its great new Rolls-Royce license for the second time.
    141. Kenworth W-900 Cab, LTK. Now that we have a box for it, and because Ixo can turn a profit off of it by making a scale model, I think it should be included.
    142. 1987 Lincoln Mk. VII SLE Coupe, LTK. Why not do back-to-back LTK issues? The Lincoln Mk. VII was badly overlooked in both real life and in this collection. How often do we get two straight vehicles DRIVEN BY Bond, anyway? Also, now that Neo released the 1985 version of the same car and Premium X Diecast seems to be in a miniature arms race with them, sometimes releasing slightly altered versions of the same car, this one makes a LOT of sense from many different perspectives.
    143. Ford Escort Mk. I Rally Car, OHMSS. Ixo does have the moulds for this oft-requested car, among other things. Plus they get to bang it up and actually do a nice job on that when they try.
    144. Ford Mondeo Mk. IV, CR. Why not revisit CR? I realize this one would have no figures, but again, it was Bond's car and it sells really well in Europe. Why wouldn't someone want a scale model of their own car?
    145. Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow I Mulliner-Park Ward Drophead Coupe, OHMSS. Ixo gets to show off its nice pretty Rolls-Royce license with a nice pretty Rolls-Royce that will undoubtedly be marketed as a Premium X model to counter Neo's Bentley Continental SIII Mulliner-Park Ward Drophead Coupe...and oh yeah, the collection truly goes out with a bang.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    Some great suggestions there, DB110, but where's the TWINE Ford Escort? :v :))
    One part of me says I'd happily take all ten of those, while the other part wishes for it to end at 135 and be done.

    Nice to hear that a rotation won't be necessary, DC007. pjft's pic gives a neat perspective of the relative sizes of the boxes, thanks.

    Off-topic, for those who are interested, the Corgi 2013 First Half catalogue was released today on their website. There's only one new Vanguards mould, the Ford Capri Mk.1 - plus a 1/43 Lotus Evora for a new "Lotus Collection" series.
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    Checking in on KINGsMODEL every so often has paid off - here's the Skyfall DB5, on what must be the road in Scotland:
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350608240027
    It must be the Universal Hobbies item as the roof panel is still there. Appears to have no figure, no surprise with a DC film, so looks like this will be one of the cheapo issues.
  • Rainier WolfcastleRainier Wolfcastle Posts: 484MI6 Agent
    And who wants to bet that the Moonraker Silver Shadow will be from Ixo or also from UH?

    And regarding the Laser - the pictures of yourmovemrbond show that the car is facing in the wrong direction. The side panel with the door is to the left.
  • Rainier WolfcastleRainier Wolfcastle Posts: 484MI6 Agent
    Today I bought the FYEO 450 SEL. The German partwork is now 6-1/2 issues behind the UK. (That's still more than twenty pages back on this thread.) As much as I was looking forward to this issue with its cliffhanger diorama, now when comparing it with the Dodge it makes it double obvious that a figure is missing inside the Mercedes. And the wheels let this one down again, the domed hubcabs look like they were nicked from an old Beetle ...

    The Dodge is fantastic, a big thank you to all who provided the photos. This is one of the best issues of all time, and before it was announced in the letter around issue 110, we didn't even have it on a wish list ... too far out to even think about! Who would have thought that Eaglemoss and Ixo would release this one with the laser?
    As a Bond vehicle a superb addition though I don't think that it will be a good army vehicle if someone tries to remove the laser. The colour is more brown than green, way off the U.S. Army's Olive Drab, and the tyres are also too small. I can ignore these things because of the laser and crew but as an army vehicle the model is not a complete success.


    Two of Kingsmodel's three SF DB5's already sold 8-) Who is buying this? - we had three of the same already. (And all three of the same were much better than the SF version.)
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited September 2012
    And who wants to bet that the Moonraker Silver Shadow will be from Ixo or also from UH?

    I doubt it. It's a completely different model of car, for one thing. Reusing the DB5 mould seemed much more obvious; after all, how would Ixo stand to profit from it?
    but as an army vehicle the model is not a complete success.

    The tires aside, I'm not sure you're familiar with an effect on most US Military vehicles from before 1984 or thereabouts where the vehicle's paint scheme almost invariably faded to a color informally known as "khaki". Granted, it didn't fade horrifically a la early WWII (1940-1942; this is also known as Spec. 3-1) Olive Drab, or even A/N 319, which is the color called Olive Drab that most people are familiar* with and that was used from 1943-1950, but it faded.

    *Note the Army Air Force adopted a different type of OD.

    There are two post-WWII types of OD that were applied to combat vehicles: TT-C-595 Spec Olive Drab (a.k.a Olive Drab 3412, 1950-mid 1956) and FS Spec Olive Drab (Mid 1956-1984). In Vietnam especially, FS Spec Olive Drab faded BADLY. Think of the kind of fading early US military gear in the South Pacific had, since that's better-documented. In fact, there's even a paint made to replicate those fading effects: Testors Model Master 4728 Olive Drab. And, sure enough, that actually matches this Dodge pretty nicely. Seeing as the US Military Assistance Advisory Group in Vietnam as well as the early MACV (in other words, from about 1958-1964) not only had documented serious problems with fading, but actually photographed said problematic gear/vehicles/etc. I'm not willing to write this one off, actually.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    And who wants to bet that the Moonraker Silver Shadow will be from Ixo or also from UH?
    I doubt it. It's a completely different model of car, for one thing. Reusing the DB5 mould seemed much more obvious; after all, how would Ixo stand to profit from it?
    Sadly this series has had too many examples of expediency trumping accuracy (QOS Daimler, OHMSS Beetle, TLD Audi 200, etc, etc) so I wouldn't be surprised if the EM guys had said "LWB, SWB, what's the difference when we already have a mould..." :(
  • Rainier WolfcastleRainier Wolfcastle Posts: 484MI6 Agent
    Cooper S wrote:
    Regarding the Rolls Royce Shadows in LTK and TWINE - apologies if this has been discussed before, but the cars seen on screen both appear to be standard Shadow IIs, whereas the models in the collection have the bigger doors of the LWB cars. The casting used for these models would make a much better basis for the MR car.
    And I bet it will be UH ... ;)
  • ChevronChevron Posts: 2MI6 Agent
    My flower truck and ambulance arrived today. Very impressive models. My truck was facing to the left so I rotated it on the base and now the laser is pointing to the top of the door on the backdrop.

    Now the only problem is the wrong shade of green. :)

    Someone was asking about the size of the Dodge ambulance box. I make it to be about 11cm tall if that helps.

    I'd love a Kenworth, please.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited September 2012
    FACT wrote:
    Sadly this series has had too many examples of expediency trumping accuracy (QOS Daimler, OHMSS Beetle, TLD Audi 200, etc, etc) so I wouldn't be surprised if the EM guys had said "LWB, SWB, what's the difference when we already have a mould..."

    What you say is dead-on, but remember that GE Fabbri was running the show for each car. Now we have Eaglemoss, which took over shortly after the UH Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow II disaster from TWINE and LTK (Issue 111 also seemed to be quite a wakeup call). For another, Ixo is already known to be designing 1950's-1970's Rolls-Royces for Premium X (although I ask you to note they've NOT received either a PR or PRD number). We just have no idea what they are because they've refused to show anyone. Honestly, is it that far a stretch to believe Ixo, since we know they have a '70's Rolls-Royce in the works, decides to start out with a US Spec Silver Shadow I?
    Cooper S wrote:
    Regarding the Rolls Royce Shadows in LTK and TWINE - apologies if this has been discussed before, but the cars seen on screen both appear to be standard Shadow IIs, whereas the models in the collection have the bigger doors of the LWB cars. The casting used for these models would make a much better basis for the MR car.

    The first sentence is true (although the cars are proportioned very poorly). But UH hasn't actually altered the dimensions of any of its moulds since Issue 101. It's true that the door came off the DBS V12, but the actual dimensions of the car didn't change. To get the LWB variant, you'd have to make some significant changes to the chassis and body.
    Chevron wrote:
    Now the only problem is the wrong shade of green.

    Welcome Chevron and thanks for the box dimensions! Yes, I suppose it is too bad that we got a faded early Vietnam War ambulance instead of the one in GF, isn't it? ;)
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    FACT wrote:
    Checking in on KINGsMODEL every so often has paid off - here's the Skyfall DB5, on what must be the road in Scotland:
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350608240027
    It must be the Universal Hobbies item as the roof panel is still there. Appears to have no figure, no surprise with a DC film, so looks like this will be one of the cheapo issues.

    Great stuff! - a decent base, good looking background and the non-gadget DB5 many of us asked for. I would imagine this model could become one of the most sought after of the series by Aston Martin and Bond fans, depending on how successful Skyfall turns out to be at the box office (which is predicted to be as strong as CR and QOS). It would look better turned around if the movie scene background still looks correct, and adding a figure isn't a big deal provided a spare car with a driver figure can be sourced. It might even be possible to simply swap the interior plus attached figure from a spare issue 01.


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  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    MCF, I worked out that the base is a repaint of the one used for Issue 54 (LALD Chev Impala), Issue 71 (OHMSS Mini racer), Issue 89 (DN Ford Anglia) & Issue 97 (GF RR Phantom III) - it is coded UH-2267 - so this one is really going to be a low-investment issue for EM.

    I have a spare driver from Issue 1 somewhere, having removed him when I took one DB5 apart for the fun of it (seeing as it was the cheap first issue I bought several of them). Unfortunately Kingsmodel's stock is usually the final version so it's too late for a rework of the mould to remove that "hatch" line on the roof - I seriously doubt the SF version has an ejector seat :))
  • Rainier WolfcastleRainier Wolfcastle Posts: 484MI6 Agent
    Well, the SF DB5 has a roof opening in the film - it has been shown more than once, I don't think this is a major spoiler. We don't know yet if it has an ejector seat, maybe it's just a sunroof and Craig likes it "dark and gritty" on his side as it is only opening above the passenger. ;)

    Great stuff! - a decent base, good looking background and the non-gadget DB5 many of us asked for. I would imagine this model could become one of the most sought after of the series by Aston Martin and Bond fans, depending on how successful Skyfall turns out to be at the box office (which is predicted to be as strong as CR and QOS). It would look better turned around if the movie scene background still looks correct, and adding a figure isn't a big deal provided a spare car with a driver figure can be sourced. It might even be possible to simply swap the interior plus attached figure from a spare issue 01.
    But this is not a non-gadget DB5. It's just the same old Goldfinger model. So why not just take issue 1? Break off the tyre slasher and glue the spinner back on, and you have exactly the car, even with the same numberplates. Why swap interiors and turn around the car on its base? Sorry, this doesn't make sense.
    But UH hasn't actually altered the dimensions of any of its moulds since Issue 101. It's true that the door came off the DBS V12, but the actual dimensions of the car didn't change. To get the LWB variant, you'd have to make some significant changes to the chassis and body.
    But we have the LWB already, that's why I quoted what Cooper S found out a while ago. The doors of the two UH Royces are the longer LWB type although they were SWB's in the films. And - did we notice this? No (except Cooper S). Did we care for SWB or LWB? No, as the dragster wheels were so terrible that we didn't even look further. And why would UH have to alter the mould to release a LWB US-spec car? Do you think they care if the car has different bumpers or lights? I bet we will see the same UH Roller released for the third time.
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