No we don't. If we did, then the wheelbase would be 71mm. It's 74mm. The car would also not be 120mm long, but rather a hair over 125mm long. The base of the car is actually TOO long with the top being shrunken not counting the doors. The proportions are off and the chassis isn't scale compared to the body; it's not just the dragster wheels, it's the actual measurements of the car's body vs. chassis stacked on top of it.
Being an avid police car collector I was happy to see that the Louisiana SP Chevy is already showing up on Ebay. Several are on there and by typing in "Louisiana State Police" in their search you should come across them. No boxes or backgrounds just the car themselves. Looks like Spectre may have some operatives in the Chinese factories.
Welcome to the forum PREP245! (Thought: I wonder how many other threads reach page 200? Some contributors here were just children when this one started!)
Regarding police cars, hopefully we might see one or two more police vehicles before the series ends - maybe one of the London cop cars from Skyfall?
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Thankyou for the welcome. I really hope there are some more police cars as part of the series. The 73 LSP version is my pick so far out of the police vehicles that have been done (closely followed by the Dodge Monaco) If I had to choose a car that is on my wish list it is the 71 Ford Custom done as either the Clark County Sheriff or LVPD from DAF.
No we don't. If we did, then the wheelbase would be 71mm. It's 74mm. The car would also not be 120mm long, but rather a hair over 125mm long. The base of the car is actually TOO long with the top being shrunken not counting the doors. The proportions are off and the chassis isn't scale compared to the body; it's not just the dragster wheels, it's the actual measurements of the car's body vs. chassis stacked on top of it.
And did we discuss this - did it matter? Actually, once the wheels are changed (as you did with yours with those from a Solido) the car doesn't look that bad.
But basically you say that because they gave us something with a longer than LWB wheelbase and a shorter than LWB body but with the LWB doors twice already - they will give us a correct MR Roller? While I'd argue that they didn't care before, so why should they bother now? But we will see in around 15 weeks ...
Re non-gadget Astons: The one I would like to see is the Vantage coupe, now that Minichamps have cancelled their planned release. I was looking around the last days for some cheap Vantages and Volantes but with shipping even the cheap ones cost almost as much as a new one as a back order.
I have noticed that one of the Volantes (yes, the ugly one) fetched £22 ... Again I have to ask: Who is buying this - for almost the triple price?
Has anyone attempted to make a non-gadget Vantage? Front, rear and sills could be used from the Volante (plus the missing tyre), and then you still got a Bond driver figure left for another car (or make a convertible with full gadgets as shown on one poster). The only problem may be that the gadget parts are glued bulletproof to the coupe body.
Well, the SF DB5 has a roof opening in the film - it has been shown more than once, I don't think this is a major spoiler. We don't know yet if it has an ejector seat, maybe it's just a sunroof and Craig likes it "dark and gritty" on his side as it is only opening above the passenger.
Great stuff! - a decent base, good looking background and the non-gadget DB5 many of us asked for. I would imagine this model could become one of the most sought after of the series by Aston Martin and Bond fans, depending on how successful Skyfall turns out to be at the box office (which is predicted to be as strong as CR and QOS). It would look better turned around if the movie scene background still looks correct, and adding a figure isn't a big deal provided a spare car with a driver figure can be sourced. It might even be possible to simply swap the interior plus attached figure from a spare issue 01.
But this is not a non-gadget DB5. It's just the same old Goldfinger model. So why not just take issue 1? Break off the tyre slasher and glue the spinner back on, and you have exactly the car, even with the same numberplates. Why swap interiors and turn around the car on its base? Sorry, this doesn't make sense.
You are correct, the DB5 in Skyfall is meant to be the same car that was seen in Goldfinger, apparently complete with all of its gadgets including ejector seat hatch. Whether any of these are actually used in Skyfall remains to be seen.
When some of us requested a 'non-gadget' DB5, we were referring to the classic Bond DB5 WITHOUT any of the gadgets in evidence i.e. hidden. Obviously you would still see the ejector hatch lines and the bullet shield hatch lines, but no open hatch, no shield, no guns, tyre slashers etc. actually shown in operation.
Turning the model around would show it coming out of the diorama rather than going into it, which from an aesthetic point of view generally looks better.
The comment was made that the Skyfall DB5 has no driver. If anybody would like to have a driver figure, then it may be possible to swap the interior of issue number 01, the GF DB5 with a Connery figure GLUED in, with the Skyfall DB5, which has no figure. That's the reason for swapping interiors, you cannot just take out the figure without damaging the original interior, or at the very least leaving glue marks where it was seated.
Some might think it odd, if not senseless, to have 'yet another DB5', especially when it's very similar to issue 01, but to a Bond fan or a movie car fan like myself this is a SKYFALL DB5, and very much worth having as a great piece of memorabilia related to the specific film. It's all about individual collector preferences. From my own personal movie 'collector' point of view, thanks to the JBCC I have 2 Goldfinger DB5s, a Thunderball DB5, I would have liked a Goldeneye DB5, but hopefully before too long I will have a Skyfall DB5 as well. Probably even two of them - one to keep and one to put on eBay at a decent profit at some point in the future.
No indeed. I'd say it's at least up to your own Ixo Mercedes-Benz W115 standards, wouldn't you? )
But basically you say that because they gave us something with a longer than LWB wheelbase and a shorter than LWB body but with the LWB doors twice already - they will give us a correct MR Roller?
No, I didn't say because they gave us the aforementioned Roller design, they'd give us a correct one. I said in spite of the aforementioned Roller design, they'd give us a correct one. More on that below.
While I'd argue that they didn't care before, so why should they bother now?
The reason I'd argue 'why now' is because we know that Ixo has a classic, 1970's Rolls-Royce (well, at the very least "designs from the 1950's-1970's"). The moulds would be new and at the time of release for the LTK Roller, Ixo had JUST gotten permission to do the older models after their prototypes were okayed by R-R (i.e. the ones from the past decade/Rolls-Royce's "make your model and prove it" approach of giving out manufacturing licenses). No time to develop the model to any extent. But by finishing up the mould, which was probably in its infancy, you could presumably get a Silver Shadow I LWB. Even if the car being modeled is unspectacular, Ixo would likely be going for a general release (likely as Premium X Resin) after releasing the US spec version; or in other words, one in right-hand drive with British spec bumpers. Ixo's "classic Rolls-Royce" line has to start somewhere, and this would seem to be their big chance. Basically, if they don't start here, then where DO they start? I agree they don't stand to profit much offf the DB5, but off a Rolls-Royce that's correctly done with a vinyl roof? THAT would be one fast way of raking in money.
But we will see in around 15 weeks ...
Indeed we will. I don't pretend to "know" that the Silver Shadow I FOR THIS PARTWORK will be made by Ixo, but I have an extremely strong hunch that it will be due to the reasons stated above. In a sentence, they've got to start somewhere, and where better than to start with a model that costs enough for most people to afford before super-detailing it and selling it as a Premium X Resin model?
You are correct, the DB5 in Skyfall is meant to be the same car that was seen in Goldfinger, apparently complete with all of its gadgets including ejector seat hatch. Whether any of these are actually used in Skyfall remains to be seen.
Not quite all - the number plate is not the revolving version.
I managed to find the profile of the guy who did that QoS Range Rover custom. Love all the other modifications, especially the Willys Jeep with Roger popping out the bodybag!
You are correct, the DB5 in Skyfall is meant to be the same car that was seen in Goldfinger, apparently complete with all of its gadgets including ejector seat hatch. Whether any of these are actually used in Skyfall remains to be seen.
You are correct, the DB5 in Skyfall is meant to be the same car that was seen in Goldfinger, apparently complete with all of its gadgets including ejector seat hatch. Whether any of these are actually used in Skyfall remains to be seen.
Not quite all - the number plate is not the revolving version.
You are correct, the DB5 in Skyfall is meant to be the same car that was seen in Goldfinger, apparently complete with all of its gadgets including ejector seat hatch. Whether any of these are actually used in Skyfall remains to be seen.
It has nt got the revolving number plate housing.
Okay, okay already! - so it hasn't got the revolving plates!!!!! :v To all intents and purposes, it's still meant to be the same car that was seen in Goldfinger.
But at least the corrections show there's more than a passing interest in the Skyfall DB5 going on. I noticed in the last collectors' newsletter from Corgi that they were saying their SF edition DB5 has sold out. Granted, it could be because of dealers bulk buying but I suspect there could be re-newed interest in this car with the prospect of younger audiences possibly being introduced to it for the first time on screen. There's a great many twenty somethings out there who have come across the Corgi 1/36 Bond DB5 at some point, so are familiar with it as a toy, but have never actually seen Goldfinger. Maybe EON are hoping these younger audiences who have been hooked by Craig's 'darker, more believable' Bond, might start buying into the Bond movie back-catalogue if they are intrigued enough by the DB5 or any other links to past movies. If I'm right (and it is only my personal opinion) there could be more commercial substance in the JBCC SF DB5, the Corgi SF DB5 and the Scalextric SF DB5 set than most of us grumpy old guys assume.
Just have to say how good the dodge ambulance is even if its the wrong way around, but mine had an extra. a 3 inch piece of sellotape stuck on the top inside of the clear plastic cover which ment i had to carefully remove the cardboard bottom to remove tape and change the direction of the dodge and put back together. but i still think this series is good value from money,
As i have just got a corgi DB5 SF at £15.99, is this the first time a corgi was in the shops before the film came out.
i remember that the DBS from QOS which cost £13.99 came out over a year after the film and all they had to do was change the colour and number plate of the CR DBS which cost £12.00 when it came out in 2006.
Also all the corgi DC cars from CR to SF have a figure of “DC- BOND” in there cars so why not the JBCC ?.
My collection as of today stands at 634 models.
Does it have the rear bullteproof screen? The picture is too small to see.
Is the Skyfall DB5 really meant to be the same one as the one in Goldfinger? Of perhaps just a replica? Or one of the publicity cars? Or is DC supposed to have found the original Goldfinger car, which had reportedly been stolen?
Of those alternatives the one that it is supposed to be the same car makes the least sense... It's been 50 years after all, surely Craig is not supposed to be the same spy that Connery played - or is James Bond supposed to be immortal too?
The new corgi DB5 SF is right hand drive with on gadgets, number plate BMT 216A the box saids, photo etched wipers, front and rear number plates 1;36 size, the box looks like the last set of corgi jb cars
But around the bottom front and sides is a blue band with the corgi logo.
Does it have the rear bullteproof screen? The picture is too small to see.
Is the Skyfall DB5 really meant to be the same one as the one in Goldfinger? Of perhaps just a replica? Or one of the publicity cars? Or is DC supposed to have found the original Goldfinger car, which had reportedly been stolen?
Of those alternatives the one that it is supposed to be the same car makes the least sense... It's been 50 years after all, surely Craig is not supposed to be the same spy that Connery played - or is James Bond supposed to be immortal too?
The Skyfall DB5 carries the same number plate as the GF car, is definitely DC's ride and gets into a chase with a helicopter so the assumption is that it is intended to be the same car. This is the James Bond movie world with all of its fantasies we're talking about so anything is possible - it could be exactly the same vehicle taken out of storage, it could have been be re-worked or re-created by Q's dept for the 21st century, it might be a long lost re-discovery of some sort. We won't know until the movie is released (unless of course you delve into all of the spoilers online)
Skyfall publicity pic from the helicopter chase sequence - click to enlarge
So who thinks we are going to get another extention to the collection?
There is certainly a buzz with the collection based on recent issues and anticipated release of Skyfall. In fact i have tried to contact database and each time i have been held in a queue of 15 people waiting to speak to someone ,Previously you got through to someone quickly with little or no waiting time.
If there is to be an extention I think 150 issues is a good number to close the collection. I think the last issue should be a special with multiple models and available to subscribers only
With any extention the following models would be on my wish list
CR FORD MONDEO
LTK KENWORTH
LALD AEC REGENT
SF VOLVO V70 'MET POLICE)
SF JAGUAR XJL
LALD GT150 Powerboat
DAD Vanish
So who thinks we are going to get another extention to the collection?
If current sales hold out, I'd not be surprised if Ixo, say, tacks on another ten cars.
That's my view also. I think they would be foolish not too
Well I spoke to a very senior manager at Eaglemoss a couple of days ago who told me that this collection will conclude at 135 issues and there will be no more. Issues 134 and 135 will be here over the Christmas holidays.
If current sales hold out, I'd not be surprised if Ixo, say, tacks on another ten cars.
That's my view also. I think they would be foolish not too
Well I spoke to a very senior manager at Eaglemoss a couple of days ago who told me that this collection will conclude at 135 issues and there will be no more. Issues 134 and 135 will be here over the Christmas holidays.
oh well that'll be that then, but a foolish decision me thinks. I will say what i have said already why stop something that has a captive market. I cannot think of any other subject relating to diecast that could maintain this amount of interest for so long. I would be surprised if many of the current subscribers would sign up to a new part work over an extention on the existing part work. The collection is on a role at the moment and now is the time to announce an extention. With skyfall to be released in a couple of weeks , the dvd launch , the renewed hype , its free marketing for your existing customers and new customers buying back issues .
If the collection is concluding as senior man at eaglemoss has stated then they need to honour the subscribers with specials that were promised at the start a way back in 2006 and i mean over and above the three freebies we got.
I am sure many of the big players in diecast would bite their left arm off if they could have a guaranteed market with every release from their catalogues.
We've had this discussion before and I'm still inclined to say the same thing: We shouldn't make any assumptions as to when the series will finish until it's actually seen in an official hard-copy letter to the subscribers. This time is no different to previous instances of the JBCC people candidly saying it's about to finish, - just before releasing an announcement of a further extension.
If the JBCC market has largely swung away from declining, weary subscriber numbers to a growing, enthusiastic 'general die-cast collector' market, it could carry on until the JBCC simply run out of every single vehicle that has ever appeared in a Bond movie. The demand is clearly there (whether the buyer is interested in Bond or not) but as Dalko said, it's a question of whether supply can be met. Whilst it can, 150 would be a fairly easy prospect, 200 not impossible - beyond that, who knows?
My open question to Eaglemoss would be: Now you have this captive and unique market whose interests don't necessarily tie in with your other partwork themes, are you going to simply end the JBCC and let it take its money elsewhere? Or are you going to come up with something else to tempt us?
If Eaglemoss are finishing at 135 then why don't they ask Wikipedia to correct the 140 entry? Why haven't they send a thanks very much and perhaps you would now like to start collecting Knitted Dolls or miniture dolls houses flier in with the models. If it really finishes at Christmas then my conclusion is that Eaglemoss MAY be doing a TV launch of a new series for £9.99 an issue in the run up to Christmas that will use the resources that JBCC has occupied in call centres, warehouses etc. Remember they dont care if they are selling JBCC, replica buttons, or Teddy Bears as long as they make money at it and if they think a new series can sell at £9.99 a month and pull in more punters then that is how they will occupy their time. However, I still wouldn't bet against an extension though I would bet against any more subscriber specials ever being issued free or not.
Barring some sort of serious disagreement between Ixo and Eaglemoss or alternately the launch of a new partwork between Ixo and Eaglemoss (TV Series cars would be doable, but as Playing Mantis/Johnny Lightning proved, movie cars can bankrupt a stable company), I see Ixo tacking on other issues. There are, for one, too many "obvious" issues where Ixo already has the mould, yet the cars themselves would sell well judging by previous sales. The under-development 1971 Ford Galaxie (which can be converted easily into a Ford Custom 500; the only external difference is the B-pillar), the "classic" Rolls-Royces also presumably under development (although to be fair, we've little to any idea what those Rolls-Royces are, exactly, other than "1950's-1970's"), the UAZ-31512, the rusty Willys MB Jeep from LTK that's used in the shootout in the PTS, the Volkswagen New Beetle from SF...assuming all these moulds are even partially completed, Ixo could probably release them within a month. That's five models at least and probably six. I'm not saying "re-use all the moulds", as despite our differences when it comes to this collection, I'd strongly second Diecast007 in asking for a Ford Mondeo Mk. IV (CR), a Kenworth W-900 cab (LTK...now that they actually developed a box for it), and a Jaguar XJR (SF), but what I am saying is that Ixo has the capability. Maz also asks a very good question as to why they're hanging out to 140.
CAMERA_MAN, I neither doubt your conversation or your source. In fact, I really do NOT think he's deliberately misleading you/believes with certainty what he says. But think of it this way: when one considers that Fabbri officials themselves (this is the first Eaglemoss guy I know) have said "the collection will definitely end at X, really, we promise" and then it just keeps on going, you get the sense that that very often in this collection, one hand doesn't really seem to know what the other hand is doing. Also consider that I had a now-defunct (as in, he stopped selling the collection) source that knew a guy at Fabbri REALLY well who was ardent that the collection would end at 110 with a single car. Didn't happen.
If Eaglemoss are finishing at 135 then why don't they ask Wikipedia to correct the 140 entry? Why haven't they send a thanks very much and perhaps you would now like to start collecting Knitted Dolls or miniture dolls houses flier in with the models. If it really finishes at Christmas then my conclusion is that Eaglemoss MAY be doing a TV launch of a new series for £9.99 an issue in the run up to Christmas that will use the resources that JBCC has occupied in call centres, warehouses etc. Remember they dont care if they are selling JBCC, replica buttons, or Teddy Bears as long as they make money at it and if they think a new series can sell at £9.99 a month and pull in more punters then that is how they will occupy their time. However, I still wouldn't bet against an extension though I would bet against any more subscriber specials ever being issued free or not.
Yes you are probably right but my point is eaglemoss already have a customer base subscribing to a well supported collection. Surely it would be cheaper and more cost effective to keep this customer base onside and continuing the collection than marketing a whole new diecast partwork .
so ill ask a second question
If the collection concludes at 135 who on this and is a loyal subscriber would start a new part work?
My answer is unlikely for me as i have invested so much time, money and space into this one. I also dont think any other genre relating to cars could hook me the same way as JBCC. This collection has appeal at all levels. The likliest candidate would be movie/tv related cars but then i still dont think that would have as big an appeal as JBCC.
If price is an issue i would happily pay more as six years has gone by since the collection started so 9.99 or even 11.99 per model would not be out of the question comparing to 2013 Vanguard releases at RRP of £22.99 the JBCC is fantastic value and still would be.
Which goes back to my argument the JBCC has a subscriber base regularly giving Eaglemoss a gauranteed income that only other diecast companies could dream of. How many times have corgi for example promised 'x' to have it delayed or cancelled due to lack of demand. Next years vanguard range is far smaller with only one new shape to be expected in the first six months. I maintain if I was Eaglemoss i would be trying to hold onto my existing customers . I am not sure how many subsribers there are but say there are 10 000 (guesstimation There must be more if you add internationally) all paying £15.98 per month generates an income of £1.9million a year !! That's big numbers for a company in this market especially in the financial climate we are in .
Finally on your last point on the specials , I agree, Yes i am admitting defeat with my plea on specials. Its very unlikely like never going to happen. Just annoys me that was part of the original agreement that was never honoured.
PS If it is indeed finishing I think a letter would be nice explaining in detail the final releases and dates of releases. Also can we get some binders for the mags ???
Diecast007, I realize you're not the world's largest fan of East Bloc partworks, but the Russians actually had a pretty clever way of handling a similar situation. "How can you end SSSR AvtoLegendy at 100?" "You're missing [important vehicle x]!" "Think of the moulds you'll have wasted that failed to make the cut!" The original solution was pretty clever, although it won't happen here: to make everyone happy, a totally new partwork was announced (which is selling great) and it was confirmed that mould overruns and modern Russian cars would wind up in that partwork, which dealt with public service vehicles.
BUT SSSR AvtoLegendy kept right on going down to the wire. No signs of an extension until there were literally ten issues left when they suddenly revealed THIRTY brand new issues. Although said 30 issues were revealed by Max Shelepenkov on RCForum.ru, I'll bet you ten to one that the average subscriber or buyer (the latter WAY out numbers the former) still thinks it ends at 100. Why? Because they'll get a nice letter revealing the extension AT ISSUE 99!
As MovieCarFan has stated repeatedly, we need someone to actively communicate with. Admit it: no matter what you think of the East Bloc cars, it's both extremely helpful as well as awesome that Russian car partwork hobbyists get to see 30+ issues ahead as well as Max Shelepenkov's statement that the collection ends "when people stop buying them". Obviously, he doesn't let on to everything, but certainly gives you enough info on the forthcoming cars to give you a very good idea of what you'll be getting. Plus giving out helpful info on the Polish partwork, which will probably end around 200 (not counting the MANY special issues!!!). That is good customer service.
Where I think Eaglemoss has stumbled around regarding the JBCC is where SSSR AvtoLegendy and Avtomobilni na Sluzhbe have succeeded. You know what you'll be getting there. You know who's making it. You get what is basically a verbal description of a black and white photograph of the car: no colors and no pictures, but that's about it. If we even had that much info, as well as an active poster here who worked for Eaglemoss or was at least consulted by them, I think it would probably set all of our minds at ease, or at the very least reduce the amount of "should I or shouldn't I?" regarding committing to buying a model. The "last minute" extensions are also extremely annoying.
Why not do what SSSR AvtoLegendy does, put a solid number out there, and then just a few issues before each model is released, reveal what the model is going to be*? It still holds your attention just as good as revealing all the models and then leaving it out there as to what they'll look like, whether they'll have figures or not, if it's going to be Ixo or a UH recast, where the diorama will be set, etc. In other words, it's my contention that "I wonder what the model three issues away from now will be?" is just as good if not better than "I wonder what kind of quality the model three issues away from now will offer and whether or not it'll have figures?"
*Although SSSR AvtoLegendy draws from a known "pool" of models, said pool has no particular order and you're virtually never sure which moulds are close to completion and which ones are a ways away.
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No we don't. If we did, then the wheelbase would be 71mm. It's 74mm. The car would also not be 120mm long, but rather a hair over 125mm long. The base of the car is actually TOO long with the top being shrunken not counting the doors. The proportions are off and the chassis isn't scale compared to the body; it's not just the dragster wheels, it's the actual measurements of the car's body vs. chassis stacked on top of it.
Thankyou for the welcome. I really hope there are some more police cars as part of the series. The 73 LSP version is my pick so far out of the police vehicles that have been done (closely followed by the Dodge Monaco) If I had to choose a car that is on my wish list it is the 71 Ford Custom done as either the Clark County Sheriff or LVPD from DAF.
But basically you say that because they gave us something with a longer than LWB wheelbase and a shorter than LWB body but with the LWB doors twice already - they will give us a correct MR Roller? While I'd argue that they didn't care before, so why should they bother now? But we will see in around 15 weeks ...
Re non-gadget Astons: The one I would like to see is the Vantage coupe, now that Minichamps have cancelled their planned release. I was looking around the last days for some cheap Vantages and Volantes but with shipping even the cheap ones cost almost as much as a new one as a back order.
I have noticed that one of the Volantes (yes, the ugly one) fetched £22 ...
Has anyone attempted to make a non-gadget Vantage? Front, rear and sills could be used from the Volante (plus the missing tyre), and then you still got a Bond driver figure left for another car (or make a convertible with full gadgets as shown on one poster). The only problem may be that the gadget parts are glued bulletproof to the coupe body.
You are correct, the DB5 in Skyfall is meant to be the same car that was seen in Goldfinger, apparently complete with all of its gadgets including ejector seat hatch. Whether any of these are actually used in Skyfall remains to be seen.
When some of us requested a 'non-gadget' DB5, we were referring to the classic Bond DB5 WITHOUT any of the gadgets in evidence i.e. hidden. Obviously you would still see the ejector hatch lines and the bullet shield hatch lines, but no open hatch, no shield, no guns, tyre slashers etc. actually shown in operation.
Turning the model around would show it coming out of the diorama rather than going into it, which from an aesthetic point of view generally looks better.
The comment was made that the Skyfall DB5 has no driver. If anybody would like to have a driver figure, then it may be possible to swap the interior of issue number 01, the GF DB5 with a Connery figure GLUED in, with the Skyfall DB5, which has no figure. That's the reason for swapping interiors, you cannot just take out the figure without damaging the original interior, or at the very least leaving glue marks where it was seated.
Some might think it odd, if not senseless, to have 'yet another DB5', especially when it's very similar to issue 01, but to a Bond fan or a movie car fan like myself this is a SKYFALL DB5, and very much worth having as a great piece of memorabilia related to the specific film. It's all about individual collector preferences. From my own personal movie 'collector' point of view, thanks to the JBCC I have 2 Goldfinger DB5s, a Thunderball DB5, I would have liked a Goldeneye DB5, but hopefully before too long I will have a Skyfall DB5 as well. Probably even two of them - one to keep and one to put on eBay at a decent profit at some point in the future.
No indeed. I'd say it's at least up to your own Ixo Mercedes-Benz W115 standards, wouldn't you?
No, I didn't say because they gave us the aforementioned Roller design, they'd give us a correct one. I said in spite of the aforementioned Roller design, they'd give us a correct one. More on that below.
The reason I'd argue 'why now' is because we know that Ixo has a classic, 1970's Rolls-Royce (well, at the very least "designs from the 1950's-1970's"). The moulds would be new and at the time of release for the LTK Roller, Ixo had JUST gotten permission to do the older models after their prototypes were okayed by R-R (i.e. the ones from the past decade/Rolls-Royce's "make your model and prove it" approach of giving out manufacturing licenses). No time to develop the model to any extent. But by finishing up the mould, which was probably in its infancy, you could presumably get a Silver Shadow I LWB. Even if the car being modeled is unspectacular, Ixo would likely be going for a general release (likely as Premium X Resin) after releasing the US spec version; or in other words, one in right-hand drive with British spec bumpers. Ixo's "classic Rolls-Royce" line has to start somewhere, and this would seem to be their big chance. Basically, if they don't start here, then where DO they start? I agree they don't stand to profit much offf the DB5, but off a Rolls-Royce that's correctly done with a vinyl roof? THAT would be one fast way of raking in money.
Indeed we will. I don't pretend to "know" that the Silver Shadow I FOR THIS PARTWORK will be made by Ixo, but I have an extremely strong hunch that it will be due to the reasons stated above. In a sentence, they've got to start somewhere, and where better than to start with a model that costs enough for most people to afford before super-detailing it and selling it as a Premium X Resin model?
I could imagine my elderly Aunt Gladys looking forward to it if she was a subscriber B-)
Not quite all - the number plate is not the revolving version.
For reasons known only to God and himself, my dad really is. "Why not? All you have are the Vanguards Hidden Treasures Minors*."
*For those wondering, Vanguards Hidden Treasures consists of rusting, dirty, beat-up, and banged up versions of the normal cars.
Thanx for that...PMSL... Now I feel like Bloody Miss Daisy..lol... -{ :007)
http://s615.photobucket.com/albums/tt239/dleyvraz/
Now THAT is what the dioramas should be like...
EDIT: I highly recommend checking out his Code 3'ed TND Range Rover Series II.
It has nt got the revolving number plate housing.
Okay, okay already! - so it hasn't got the revolving plates!!!!! :v To all intents and purposes, it's still meant to be the same car that was seen in Goldfinger.
But at least the corrections show there's more than a passing interest in the Skyfall DB5 going on. I noticed in the last collectors' newsletter from Corgi that they were saying their SF edition DB5 has sold out. Granted, it could be because of dealers bulk buying but I suspect there could be re-newed interest in this car with the prospect of younger audiences possibly being introduced to it for the first time on screen. There's a great many twenty somethings out there who have come across the Corgi 1/36 Bond DB5 at some point, so are familiar with it as a toy, but have never actually seen Goldfinger. Maybe EON are hoping these younger audiences who have been hooked by Craig's 'darker, more believable' Bond, might start buying into the Bond movie back-catalogue if they are intrigued enough by the DB5 or any other links to past movies. If I'm right (and it is only my personal opinion) there could be more commercial substance in the JBCC SF DB5, the Corgi SF DB5 and the Scalextric SF DB5 set than most of us grumpy old guys assume.
As i have just got a corgi DB5 SF at £15.99, is this the first time a corgi was in the shops before the film came out.
i remember that the DBS from QOS which cost £13.99 came out over a year after the film and all they had to do was change the colour and number plate of the CR DBS which cost £12.00 when it came out in 2006.
Also all the corgi DC cars from CR to SF have a figure of “DC- BOND” in there cars so why not the JBCC ?.
My collection as of today stands at 634 models.
Is the Skyfall DB5 really meant to be the same one as the one in Goldfinger? Of perhaps just a replica? Or one of the publicity cars? Or is DC supposed to have found the original Goldfinger car, which had reportedly been stolen?
Of those alternatives the one that it is supposed to be the same car makes the least sense... It's been 50 years after all, surely Craig is not supposed to be the same spy that Connery played - or is James Bond supposed to be immortal too?
But around the bottom front and sides is a blue band with the corgi logo.
paul
The Skyfall DB5 carries the same number plate as the GF car, is definitely DC's ride and gets into a chase with a helicopter so the assumption is that it is intended to be the same car. This is the James Bond movie world with all of its fantasies we're talking about so anything is possible - it could be exactly the same vehicle taken out of storage, it could have been be re-worked or re-created by Q's dept for the 21st century, it might be a long lost re-discovery of some sort. We won't know until the movie is released (unless of course you delve into all of the spoilers online)
Skyfall publicity pic from the helicopter chase sequence - click to enlarge
paul
There is certainly a buzz with the collection based on recent issues and anticipated release of Skyfall. In fact i have tried to contact database and each time i have been held in a queue of 15 people waiting to speak to someone ,Previously you got through to someone quickly with little or no waiting time.
If there is to be an extention I think 150 issues is a good number to close the collection. I think the last issue should be a special with multiple models and available to subscribers only
With any extention the following models would be on my wish list
CR FORD MONDEO
LTK KENWORTH
LALD AEC REGENT
SF VOLVO V70 'MET POLICE)
SF JAGUAR XJL
LALD GT150 Powerboat
DAD Vanish
cheers
If current sales hold out, I'd not be surprised if Ixo, say, tacks on another ten cars.
That's my view also. I think they would be foolish not too
Well I spoke to a very senior manager at Eaglemoss a couple of days ago who told me that this collection will conclude at 135 issues and there will be no more. Issues 134 and 135 will be here over the Christmas holidays.
oh well that'll be that then, but a foolish decision me thinks. I will say what i have said already why stop something that has a captive market. I cannot think of any other subject relating to diecast that could maintain this amount of interest for so long. I would be surprised if many of the current subscribers would sign up to a new part work over an extention on the existing part work. The collection is on a role at the moment and now is the time to announce an extention. With skyfall to be released in a couple of weeks , the dvd launch , the renewed hype , its free marketing for your existing customers and new customers buying back issues .
If the collection is concluding as senior man at eaglemoss has stated then they need to honour the subscribers with specials that were promised at the start a way back in 2006 and i mean over and above the three freebies we got.
I am sure many of the big players in diecast would bite their left arm off if they could have a guaranteed market with every release from their catalogues.
If the JBCC market has largely swung away from declining, weary subscriber numbers to a growing, enthusiastic 'general die-cast collector' market, it could carry on until the JBCC simply run out of every single vehicle that has ever appeared in a Bond movie. The demand is clearly there (whether the buyer is interested in Bond or not) but as Dalko said, it's a question of whether supply can be met. Whilst it can, 150 would be a fairly easy prospect, 200 not impossible - beyond that, who knows?
My open question to Eaglemoss would be: Now you have this captive and unique market whose interests don't necessarily tie in with your other partwork themes, are you going to simply end the JBCC and let it take its money elsewhere? Or are you going to come up with something else to tempt us?
CAMERA_MAN, I neither doubt your conversation or your source. In fact, I really do NOT think he's deliberately misleading you/believes with certainty what he says. But think of it this way: when one considers that Fabbri officials themselves (this is the first Eaglemoss guy I know) have said "the collection will definitely end at X, really, we promise" and then it just keeps on going, you get the sense that that very often in this collection, one hand doesn't really seem to know what the other hand is doing. Also consider that I had a now-defunct (as in, he stopped selling the collection) source that knew a guy at Fabbri REALLY well who was ardent that the collection would end at 110 with a single car. Didn't happen.
Yes you are probably right but my point is eaglemoss already have a customer base subscribing to a well supported collection. Surely it would be cheaper and more cost effective to keep this customer base onside and continuing the collection than marketing a whole new diecast partwork .
so ill ask a second question
If the collection concludes at 135 who on this and is a loyal subscriber would start a new part work?
My answer is unlikely for me as i have invested so much time, money and space into this one. I also dont think any other genre relating to cars could hook me the same way as JBCC. This collection has appeal at all levels. The likliest candidate would be movie/tv related cars but then i still dont think that would have as big an appeal as JBCC.
If price is an issue i would happily pay more as six years has gone by since the collection started so 9.99 or even 11.99 per model would not be out of the question comparing to 2013 Vanguard releases at RRP of £22.99 the JBCC is fantastic value and still would be.
Which goes back to my argument the JBCC has a subscriber base regularly giving Eaglemoss a gauranteed income that only other diecast companies could dream of. How many times have corgi for example promised 'x' to have it delayed or cancelled due to lack of demand. Next years vanguard range is far smaller with only one new shape to be expected in the first six months. I maintain if I was Eaglemoss i would be trying to hold onto my existing customers . I am not sure how many subsribers there are but say there are 10 000 (guesstimation There must be more if you add internationally) all paying £15.98 per month generates an income of £1.9million a year !! That's big numbers for a company in this market especially in the financial climate we are in .
Finally on your last point on the specials , I agree, Yes i am admitting defeat with my plea on specials. Its very unlikely like never going to happen. Just annoys me that was part of the original agreement that was never honoured.
PS If it is indeed finishing I think a letter would be nice explaining in detail the final releases and dates of releases. Also can we get some binders for the mags ???
BUT SSSR AvtoLegendy kept right on going down to the wire. No signs of an extension until there were literally ten issues left when they suddenly revealed THIRTY brand new issues. Although said 30 issues were revealed by Max Shelepenkov on RCForum.ru, I'll bet you ten to one that the average subscriber or buyer (the latter WAY out numbers the former) still thinks it ends at 100. Why? Because they'll get a nice letter revealing the extension AT ISSUE 99!
As MovieCarFan has stated repeatedly, we need someone to actively communicate with. Admit it: no matter what you think of the East Bloc cars, it's both extremely helpful as well as awesome that Russian car partwork hobbyists get to see 30+ issues ahead as well as Max Shelepenkov's statement that the collection ends "when people stop buying them". Obviously, he doesn't let on to everything, but certainly gives you enough info on the forthcoming cars to give you a very good idea of what you'll be getting. Plus giving out helpful info on the Polish partwork, which will probably end around 200 (not counting the MANY special issues!!!). That is good customer service.
Where I think Eaglemoss has stumbled around regarding the JBCC is where SSSR AvtoLegendy and Avtomobilni na Sluzhbe have succeeded. You know what you'll be getting there. You know who's making it. You get what is basically a verbal description of a black and white photograph of the car: no colors and no pictures, but that's about it. If we even had that much info, as well as an active poster here who worked for Eaglemoss or was at least consulted by them, I think it would probably set all of our minds at ease, or at the very least reduce the amount of "should I or shouldn't I?" regarding committing to buying a model. The "last minute" extensions are also extremely annoying.
Why not do what SSSR AvtoLegendy does, put a solid number out there, and then just a few issues before each model is released, reveal what the model is going to be*? It still holds your attention just as good as revealing all the models and then leaving it out there as to what they'll look like, whether they'll have figures or not, if it's going to be Ixo or a UH recast, where the diorama will be set, etc. In other words, it's my contention that "I wonder what the model three issues away from now will be?" is just as good if not better than "I wonder what kind of quality the model three issues away from now will offer and whether or not it'll have figures?"
*Although SSSR AvtoLegendy draws from a known "pool" of models, said pool has no particular order and you're virtually never sure which moulds are close to completion and which ones are a ways away.