James Bond Car Collection - Questions and praise

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  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    FACT wrote:
    A Defender 110 crew cab has featured a lot in the promo material for Skyfall but it's a Discovery 4 that's listed for Issue 134 (Wikipedia article notes it as "driven by Eve in Istanbul") - I guess we'll know quite shortly how big a role it has in the movie, and the colour, etc. A quick internet search didn't get any hits for any current 1:43 diecast model of the Disco 4 so whoever is doing it will be creating a new mould.

    Error in the car's description, maybe? We got the Discovery 110 as Issue 85.
    Diecast007 wrote:
    The models look ok

    I'll give you the Roller, even if it is pretty painful to me, but the Continental is the wrong color and the windshield doesn't even look close to the real car's windshield. Making this all the more ridiculous is that Ixo IS WORKING ON A '64 CONTINENTAL CONVERTIBLE DESIGNED AS SUCH FOR PREMIUM X! :#
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    I found a press release online from Jaguar Land Rover regarding the use of their vehicles in Skyfall and it mentions only the Defender 110 Double Cab (used by field agent Eve in the pre-titles sequence) and the (2010) Range Rover used in some London scenes (as already released in the Scalextric Skyfall set) - both of these are already noted on IMCDb, as taken from the promo material.
    No mention of a Discovery 4 SUV being provided to EON - and if Eve is driving the Defender Double Cab through that extended chase scene then it's unlikely she's driving a Disco as well - so I wonder if Eaglemoss have that one wrong and it is in fact a Defender that we will be getting as Issue 134?
    All will be revealed after the 26th, no doubt :)
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited October 2012
    FACT wrote:
    I found a press release online from Jaguar Land Rover regarding the use of their vehicles in Skyfall and it mentions only the Defender 110 Double Cab (used by field agent Eve in the pre-titles sequence) and the (2010) Range Rover used in some London scenes (as already released in the Scalextric Skyfall set) - both of these are already noted on IMCDb, as taken from the promo material.
    No mention of a Discovery 4 SUV being provided to EON - and if Eve is driving the Defender Double Cab through that extended chase scene then it's unlikely she's driving a Disco as well - so I wonder if Eaglemoss have that one wrong and it is in fact a Defender that we will be getting as Issue 134?
    All will be revealed after the 26th, no doubt :)

    The lesson here...for me...is to proof-read better. I meant a Land Rover Defender 110, not a Discovery 110, sorry (and, as you'll notice, Issue 85 is indeed a Defender)! :o
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • yourmovemrbondyourmovemrbond Posts: 61MI6 Agent
    Here is a quick photo of the morris minor...it will do until someone posts a better one......very nice model.....and 129 confirmed as the ford ranch wagon from FRWL
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  • WinnieWinnie Posts: 129MI6 Agent
    I'm sitting with the Morris Minor in front of me,and you know what?It ain't bad at all.MovieCarFan, you can come out of that bunker.I think we've had a lot worse over the course of this collection.
    I'm not impressed with models 133&135 though,the Rolls looks like a Corgi model from the 1970's and the Lincoln is just a repeat,do we really need to see these two again?
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Winnie wrote:
    I'm sitting with the Morris Minor in front of me,and you know what?It ain't bad at all.MovieCarFan, you can come out of that bunker.I think we've had a lot worse over the course of this collection.
    I'm not impressed with models 133&135 though,the Rolls looks like a Corgi model from the 1970's and the Lincoln is just a repeat,do we really need to see these two again?

    Nope, not coming out! :))

    To be fair, it looks like a fairly accurate model of the dreadful Minor, which is more than be said for the Lincoln - is that windscreen correct? It looks way too high, but maybe I'm seeing it wrong. Even though two similar Rollers like this have appeared before, it doesn't look too bad, from a general model and diorama point of view IMHO. It certainly ties in well with issue 50, the MR Lafer, seen in the background.

    Looking forward to seeing the upcoming Ranch Wagon.
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    .... I'm guessing Ixo's contract cut out at 131 and ... the series ends at 135. I'm also guessing the Land Rover Defender will be UH and based off one of the existing Land Rover moulds. Ixo still would have (obviously) done the Chevy Bel Air Louisiana State Police Car.
    Yes, it's looking as though all of the final four models will indeed be UH-sourced.
    A few of the Roller's problems seem to have been worked out, but it still looks like a very poor finale.
    Agreed, what a poor final model - it's a Rolls Royce, but that's about all that's special about that model...

    Nice little LHD Moggie, thanks for the pic, ymmb.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited October 2012
    Well, the Minor is a nice model of a boring car! But seriously, I'll be getting one, as well as the FRWL '60 Ford Ranch Wagon, TLD Wales & Edwards Rangemaster Milk Float, and '73 Chevy Bel Air Louisiana State Police. After that? When Ixo comes back on board (which it almost certainly won't...or if Eaglemoss somehow manages to get Norev onboard, which is doubtful but not totally impossible), so will I.
    Nice little LHD Moggie

    Agreed. I like the fact that we get one in LHD. Now would someone get it overwith and make a '57 Hudson Hornet Custom V8 (or for that matter, a '62 DeSoto Rebel) in RHD? :))
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    I'd be interested to hear what wording there is on the baseplate of the Morris Minor, if anyone here does take theirs off the base.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited October 2012
    FACT wrote:
    I'd be interested to hear what wording there is on the baseplate of the Morris Minor, if anyone here does take theirs off the base.

    Will do! It's on its way to me as we speak.

    EDIT: For what it's worth, I'm betting against Oxford Diecast. They don't do partworks and on their 1/43 Minors, the wiper blades are integral to the windshield. This car has seperately moulded wiper blades. Also not Vanguards, since the modern iteration features a seperate badge on the hood as well as hubcaps that jut out much further. It's close to Norev, but no cigar: differently-done windshield, grille, and the hood ornament is pretty differently done. The only flaw with this model, it would seem, is the body-colored convertible top. Shouldn't it be black?
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    FACT wrote:
    I'd be interested to hear what wording there is on the baseplate of the Morris Minor, if anyone here does take theirs off the base.

    Will do! It's on its way to me as we speak.

    EDIT: For what it's worth, I'm betting against Oxford Diecast. They don't do partworks and on their 1/43 Minors, the wiper blades are integral to the windshield. This car has seperately moulded wiper blades. Also not Vanguards, since the modern iteration features a seperate badge on the hood as well as hubcaps that jut out much further. It's close to Norev, but no cigar: differently-done windshield, grille, and the hood ornament is pretty differently done. The only flaw with this model, it would seem, is the body-colored convertible top. Shouldn't it be black?

    If you look at the still below, the softop does appear to be a not-quite matching blue. In the UK it would most likely have been black, grey, white or even red, but British car makers used to make 'specials' for overseas markets (especially the USA) and this could have been one of them. It's a decent looking model, but the real thing drove like a wheelbarrow with a flat tyre. I'd recommend displaying it next to the Tuk Tuk and the Zaz ;)

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  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Thought I'd post some pics of the Acrostar by Dleyvraz that have been posted on another forum - amazing stuff. The old guy getting up off his seat is brilliant.

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  • BleuvilleBleuville Posts: 384MI6 Agent
    FACT wrote:
    I'd be interested to hear what wording there is on the baseplate of the Morris Minor, if anyone here does take theirs off the base.

    Those of you who are Aston Martin spotters will of course realise that the window-line of the car in the Vanity Fair photo is
    an Aston Martin DB6 the follow on to the DB5 that has been in several Bond films.
    Either the photo is mocked-up or Craig is sat in whatever car they could get hold of!
    Anyway, it's not the exact model in Skyfall, unless they've changed to a DB6-haven't seen the film yet!

    Bleuville.

    Video: Daniel Craig's Photo Shoot with Annie Leibovitz
    http://www.vanityfair.com/video/2012/10/1871376489001
  • BleuvilleBleuville Posts: 384MI6 Agent
    Bleuville wrote:
    FACT wrote:
    I'd be interested to hear what wording there is on the baseplate of the Morris Minor, if anyone here does take theirs off the base.

    Those of you who are Aston Martin spotters will of course realise that the window-line of the car in the Vanity Fair photo is
    an Aston Martin DB6 the follow on to the DB5 that has been in several Bond films.
    Either the photo is mocked-up or Craig is sat in whatever car they could get hold of!
    Anyway, it's not the exact model in Skyfall, unless they've changed to a DB6-haven't seen the film yet!

    Bleuville.

    Video: Daniel Craig's Photo Shoot with Annie Leibovitz
    http://www.vanityfair.com/video/2012/10/1871376489001

    This is taken from the Skyfall related magazines section where there's a close-up of DC in a DB6.

    Bleuville. P.S. - I will get my Morris Minor soon from Forbidden Planet shop.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    and the Zaz

    At least the former Soviets really DO ridicule the heck out of the entire Zaporozhets series and mock it unmericfully. :))

    But seriously, thanks for the info on the convertible top. The weird thing is that it seems to attach almost exactly like the 1/43 Minichamps model...and I really, really doubt that we're getting Minichamps.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    edited October 2012
    and the Zaz

    At least the former Soviets really DO ridicule the heck out of the entire Zaporozhets series and mock it unmericfully. :))

    But seriously, thanks for the info on the convertible top. The weird thing is that it seems to attach almost exactly like the 1/43 Minichamps model...and I really, really doubt that we're getting Minichamps.

    Is it possible that Minichamps would share or sell moulds do you think? Or might have Ixo simply taken a well-made model as a 'template' for creating their own version?

    It's a fantastic thought though, just imagine the 'wishlist' being produced by Minichamps for £7.99 each. I'd be first in line for all of them! {[]

    On the subject of Morris Minors, I should tell you a story: Years ago I went to a Custom Car show where there was a row of glossy hot-rods, all with amazing paint-jobs, and chromed anywhere that could be chromed. Well, at the end of the line-up was a really grubby looking Morris Minor Traveller, all intact but patch-primered and filthy, that looked like someone had gone and parked it in the wrong place. It was only when you got closer to it that you could see its stance was wrong – too low, and the rusty steel wheels were far too wide.
    And when you got really close, you could see that underneath the bonnet/hood the stock 1000cc engine had been replaced with a 3.5 litre Rover V8.
    Apparently the owner had created this car to chug up alongside the likes of Porsches etc. at traffic lights like an old wreck, and then promptly leave them standing in a cloud of tyre smoke!

    I think in The States they’re called ‘Rat Racers’ (?)

    Stock Morris Minors were considered old ladies’ cars, but if they were given big engines and Jaguar IRS they did make very good hot-rods, especially pick ups with custom wooden cargo beds like this one:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/78002012@N00/3628714054/sizes/l/in/photostream/
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    The Issue 128 model won't be Minichamps sourced - they do the Morris Minor only in 1:18 scale (I have the cream Traveller in my collection ... only because I got it at a ridiculously low price, though).
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    It seems Emoss are going to be running the nice 1.43 Batmobile dioramas in the US soon:

    http://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/921?stockItemID=STK520384

    No idea if they will be running the series in the UK though.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    FACT wrote:
    The Issue 128 model won't be Minichamps sourced - they do the Morris Minor only in 1:18 scale

    Wasn't it one of their moulds that just wasn't in demand? I could swear I saw a 1/43 Minichamps Minor...but then, I guess not.

    Either way, it wouldn't be Minichamps-sourced. It bears most of the hallmarks of Ixo (the tires and wheels, for example), honestly.
    It seems Emoss are going to be running the nice 1.43 Batmobile dioramas in the US soon

    Sadly not as a nation-wide partwork. Due to various restrictions from state to state, it's only going to be sold at comic book and card shops. They should try Ixo-sourced 1/43 American cars (because Ixo is the most interested in getting in on the US market) at hobby shops, as well...those would fly off the shelves.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    It seems Emoss are going to be running the nice 1.43 Batmobile dioramas in the US soon

    Sadly not as a nation-wide partwork. Due to various restrictions from state to state, it's only going to be sold at comic book and card shops. They should try Ixo-sourced 1/43 American cars (because Ixo is the most interested in getting in on the US market) at hobby shops, as well...those would fly off the shelves.

    Hopefully we in the UK will see the Batmobile part-work in our comic book shops too, then, such as in branches of Forbidden Planet. I wouldn't want them all (as in comic versions) but the movie/TV ones, yes please. Totally agree about the 1.43 American cars - but then I would, wouldn't I? :D
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    There seems to be a lot of minors on eBay now
    So I am assuming my delivery will be soon. Still waiting
    For Volga issue 120

    Incidentally for viewers in the uk there is a special top gear celebrating
    50 year of the bond car Monday night bbc2.
  • PoorMansJBPoorMansJB USAPosts: 1,203MI6 Agent
    Diecast007 wrote:
    The Aston Martin V12 'VANISH' Die Another Day

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    Ok I confess it's my attempt. I got a duplicate xkr to display with
    My 1/43 jags which left me with a spare box for Die Another Day.
    A pair of scissors, some paper glue and my printer/copier and fifteen minutes
    Later I have my first completed code 3 . Job done

    Amusing but has me thinking that what's REALLY needed is a "model" of an empty flat bed with figures of Cleese and Brosnan in front of a tube station backing. Might actually sell!
  • james John Smythejames John Smythe Station N, Netherlands Posts: 162MI6 Agent
    edited October 2012
    PoorMansJB wrote:
    Amusing but has me thinking that what's REALLY needed is a "model" of an empty flat bed with figures of Cleese and Brosnan in front of a tube station backing. Might actually sell!

    For the life of me I can't remember who, that exact thing has been done by someone a few years back. The same bloke also wonderfully recreated the Z8 in the pool-table setting with "R".
  • tibre007tibre007 The NetherlandsPosts: 31MI6 Agent
    Surprise surprise! I just picked up nr. 120, the Mercedes 450 SEL from FYEO. It is a nice model, although it is a pity that nobody is in the car. But ... there was a little note inside that from nr. 120 till the end of the collection, the price raised with one euro :o. So here in The Netherlands it is now 13.99 eruo.
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    PoorMansJB wrote:
    Diecast007 wrote:
    The Aston Martin V12 'VANISH' Die Another Day

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    Ok I confess it's my attempt. I got a duplicate xkr to display with
    My 1/43 jags which left me with a spare box for Die Another Day.
    A pair of scissors, some paper glue and my printer/copier and fifteen minutes
    Later I have my first completed code 3 . Job done

    Amusing but has me thinking that what's REALLY needed is a "model" of an empty flat bed with figures of Cleese and Brosnan in front of a tube station backing. Might actually sell!

    Thanks, yes I appreciate not the most technical of a code 3, it was a bitof fun. I dont know if you looked at the picture in detail but i did actually alter the back ground considerably and managed to replicate the correct font on the front of the box. Its amazing what you can do with paper , printer , scissors and glue

    I am actually speaking to somebody in Special FX for the TV and film industry. He reckons we could make a water clear resin 3d model of the vanquish in 1/43 to sit where it should be sat though still appear invisible.

    Moviecarfan and myself talked sometime ago about a similar idea with the Vanish in the Underground station. I think the Vanish was a missed opportunity for the collection and at little cost
  • PoorMansJBPoorMansJB USAPosts: 1,203MI6 Agent
    Diecast007 wrote:
    Thanks, yes I appreciate not the most technical of a code 3, it was a bitof fun. I dont know if you looked at the picture in detail but i did actually alter the back ground considerably and managed to replicate the correct font on the front of the box. Its amazing what you can do with paper , printer , scissors and glue

    I am actually speaking to somebody in Special FX for the TV and film industry. He reckons we could make a water clear resin 3d model of the vanquish in 1/43 to sit where it should be sat though still appear invisible.

    Moviecarfan and myself talked sometime ago about a similar idea with the Vanish in the Underground station. I think the Vanish was a missed opportunity for the collection and at little cost

    Clear cast Vanquishes turn-up now and then as supposed prototypes from the 1/64 Johnny Lightning line so, yes, wouldn't be a hard thing to do at 1/43.

    I'm serious about the flat car though ... I'm stupid enough to buy it.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    tibre007 wrote:
    there was a little note inside that from nr. 120 till the end of the collection, the price raised with one euro

    That would be Eaglemoss reacting to the loss of Ixo, presumably. Although they only have three Ixo models left in the UK, they still have eleven left (12 if you count the Merc) in the Netherlands. Since the Ixo models are the moneymakers (something I've spoken with individual UK dealers about...including a guy who was formerly quite optimistic and is now starting to carry other partworks in anticipation of a huge drop in sales), well...Eaglemoss probably figures they can still get individual sales up in markets outside the UK. Ironically, Ixo supposedly wanted a raise in price for a larger share/easier manufacturing, Eaglemoss said no, and Ixo walked away, which leaves the partwork hanging at 135.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • PoorMansJBPoorMansJB USAPosts: 1,203MI6 Agent
    I've read through the whole of this thread and find myself with questions. Since I'm in the US and getting all the models through a second party, I'm even less in the know. Can one (or more :p ) of you give me a run-down on who really owns/controls what? For example, my basic understanding was that Fabbri oversaw everything, with Norev doing the French run but Universal Hobbies handling the UK.

    But there's next to no mention of Norev or UH here though there is discussion of Eaglemoss, who I thought only dealt with the 1/8 DB5 kit (relative to Bond that is).

    I don't know that the facts would have any impact on my collecting the series; I'm mostly just curious.
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    PoorMansJB, the story of this collection is on Wikipedia:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond_Car_Collection

    In essence, it was launched by GE Fabbri in France in August 2006 and in the United Kingdom in January 2007, after trial runs in France earlier in 2005/6 (using the Norev & Eligor models).

    The initial diecast manufacturer used was Universal Hobbies which produced the first 87 issues. With Issue 88 the first Ixo model was introduced, and from there on until Issue 111 the model source varied between Ixo & UH. From Issue 112 onwards the range became exclusively Ixo-sourced, but Issue 131 looks like it will be the final Ixo model, with the last four models coming from UH again (based on moulds made for earlier issues).

    In the meantime, GE Fabbri was taken over by rival partwork publisher Eaglemoss and this partwork consequently switched to being Eaglemoss owned.
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    Looking at the Wikipedia article referred to in my post above, I see the poor Morris Minor has already received a "error" credit, namely:
    Issue 128: The Morris Minor neglects to have a registration plate present, and the folded up roof is the incorrect colour; being that of the car's body.
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