Great job and I'm really looking forward to this one! The only thing a Code 3'er (and I mean this for people that want to keep it on the diorama stand only) might want to do is to unscrew the car from its base and maybe remove the little plastic stand thingy that Ixo puts on its models (i.e. hold it in with the usually-black-painted screw alone). It works in most cases, but if you look level at it, it's REALLY obvious thanks to the milk float's uniquely-shaped chassis.
I bought my RangeMaster milk float today and was disappointed that no Necros figure was included.Its quite a large model,bigger than i expected.The case is the same size as the one the Chevrolet truck came in.
No news letter was included in this issue,so we're still in the dark as far as this collection is concerned.Thats as much as i can tell you.
No news letter was included in this issue,so we're still in the dark as far as this collection is concerned.
I imagine subscribers will probably get it.
As for size, it does look oddly big at first...but then, have a look at some Wales & Edwards Rangemasters on the link below...the second to last and third from the bottom photos both illustrate pretty well that these vehicles were actually pretty large, especially given that they were three-wheeled milk floats...
Well seeing that this vehicle has "duallys" on the rear axle, it would have to be a heavy duty vehicle. And judging from the scale of the vehicles around them in the aforementioned pictures, this would indeed be a big vehicle. I just got my 1961 Ford Ranch Wagon, and was very impressed. Thank you to the British bloke that sends me these each month!
I haven't seen a Milk Float for years now, so perhaps have forgotten the size of some of them.Very few are around now,with milk available from supermarkets,newsagents,garage forecourts,etc.The last milkman around my area used a Ford Transit milk truck and i can't say whether he still delivers.
Unfortunately the Milk Float won't be gracing the shelves of MCF Towers any time soon (I can't help it, I just prefer Aston Martins), BUT it is a very good and unusual model. Bearing in mind what we were discussing about the possibility of a British version of 'La Route Bleue', this type of thing is an excellent illustration. If you take away the 'Living Daylights' caption off the front, it's simply a milk float in a village setting, a very common sight in Britain back in the 80's. Add a milkman figure plus a cat on a wall and it's a ready made issue in a Brit LRB.
Unfortunately the Milk Float won't be gracing the shelves of MCF Towers any time soon (I can't help it, I just prefer Aston Martins), BUT it is a very good and unusual model. Bearing in mind what we were discussing about the possibility of a British version of 'La Route Bleue', this type of thing is an excellent illustration. If you take away the 'Living Daylights' caption off the front, it's simply a milk float in a village setting, a very common sight in Britain back in the 80's. Add a milkman figure plus a cat on a wall and it's a ready made issue in a Brit LRB.
Looking forward to the Louisiana Chevy
Add a pub sign 'Rovers Return' its then TV related a Coronation street special !
Well seeing that this vehicle has "duallys" on the rear axle, it would have to be a heavy duty vehicle. And judging from the scale of the vehicles around them in the aforementioned pictures, this would indeed be a big vehicle. I just got my 1961 Ford Ranch Wagon, and was very impressed. Thank you to the British bloke that sends me these each month!
They were indeed quite big, most households back in the pre-supermarket days had milk delivered (possibly an average of two glass pint bottles per house) so the carrying capacity needed to be substantial or these vehicles would have to return to their depots to re-stock. Being electric, that would drain the batteries too. They also often carried minor groceries, and butter etc in coolers, so combine that with the weight of milk and batteries, you can see the reason for twin wheels on the back axle. BTW, I believe UK road tax was a fair bit cheaper for '3 wheelers' back in the day, which is why they had that configuration. Winnie's right, most of these electric vehicles disappeared back in the early 90's making way for diesel Ford Transit milk floats which are also now nearly extinct. Most people in the UK have a mini supermarket close by, so buy milk in large plastic containers - much the same as most other countries.
Come to think of it, this WOULD make an awesome vehicle for a "British LRB". You're right, MCF: add a milkman (hopefully with two bottles of milk), a cat, and maybe even someone at the door and you've got a great little scene.
Went round the local newsagent yesterday and fount the Chevrolet Apache FRWL truck. It looked so nice that I just had to buy it. The rear will look much better once I give it a bit of weathering to make it like it’s made of wood and not plastic. The previous issue, Dodge Ram (126) was there as well, but I have seen it there for quite a few weeks and there seems to be no interest in it. To me it just looked like another nondescript American ute, so had to pass it. Looking forward to the next issue, the Dodge ambulance as well as the milk float, and to me the JBCC will then be closed.
Ok I understand now why the DB5 was featured, enough said .
The others all worthy of a model in this collection
The landrover Defender, discovery met police and range rover
The Jaguar XJL and Audi A5. What about the caterpillar excavator !
Skyfall premieres here today and opens soon afterwards (apparently the filmmakers just arrived in Sydney). I'm really tempted to see it at the cinema - with the previous 2 I waited for the DVD (not a big Craig Bond fan).
Skyfall premieres here today and opens soon afterwards (apparently the filmmakers just arrived in Sydney). I'm really tempted to see it at the cinema - with the previous 2 I waited for the DVD (not a big Craig Bond fan).
I went to see Casino Royale at the cinema and wished I hadn't - it came across as a bit of a chick-flick especially with the audience being mostly female and so many close-ups of Craig. I didn't get on with DC's take on Bond in CR either, so much so I refused to go see QOS at the cinema with my missis, she went with my daughter. However, when I saw QOS on DVD I really wish I HAD seen it at the cinema, mostly for the DBS and Alfas chase, but I also thought it was a really good action movie and DC was more acceptable as Bond. Skyfall IMHO is very much the same as QOS, great action scenes that come across well on the big screen, well acted, and as for the DB5, well, if you like DB5s........(drool)
To me, the 2 later DC Bond movies come across very much like the Bourne movies, but without the vomit inducing shaky-cam, which is a good thing. I think DC is more acceptable as Bond and the alternatives could be a lot worse - a teenager's favourite sulky pin-up who can't act, for instance.
I agree, MoveCarFan (except what you have to say about Skyfall, of course, as I haven't seen the movie yet!), however, if Craig can play Bond, then anyone can. Of course, knowing that the movie producers are professionals, I doubt they would ever offer the role to a teenagers' favourite sulky pin-up who can't act! )
Went round the local newsagent yesterday and fount the Chevrolet Apache FRWL truck. It looked so nice that I just had to buy it. The rear will look much better once I give it a bit of weathering to make it like it’s made of wood and not plastic. The previous issue, Dodge Ram (126) was there as well, but I have seen it there for quite a few weeks and there seems to be no interest in it. To me it just looked like another nondescript American ute, so had to pass it. Looking forward to the next issue, the Dodge ambulance as well as the milk float, and to me the JBCC will then be closed.
They're calling full-size pickups utes in Australia now? Used to be a divider line (still used by my cousins) that if it was car-based, it was a ute, if it wasn't, it was either a "pickup", "utility truck", or, what with them being transplanted South Africans and all, "bakkie" to apply to virtually any utility vehicle.
By the way, making the outside of the cargo bed look wooden shouldn't be too hard, but what are your plans for the inside?
Hi Dalko, the Chevrolet clearly looks like a truck, but the Ram seemed more like a ute, especially when I held both in my hands at the same time and could appreciate the size difference. When does a ute end and truck start? You are probably right that a ute is car-based, but how is a non-American to know if the Dodge Ram is car-based or not? )
Melancholy Echo - I am in Adelaide. I know a handful of newsagents who get these on the shelves, but unfortunately my lips are sealed as to the exact location, at least until I get the milk float 8-) - they may only get one of each model. With the Chevrolet truck I was at the same agent the day before and they had none, and the next day there was just one!
On the subject of the Chevrolet, it would have made an excellent diorama, but unfortnatel we got a showroom specimen instead. I recently got some Tamiya Weatherin Master for an unrelated project, so I had a little practice - you can see the results below. Strangely, when I removed the model from the base (fixed with extremely long Philips screws), the Ixo name was not to be seen anywhere. Are we sure it actually is Ixo?
[...]the Ixo name was not to be seen anywhere. Are we sure it actually is Ixo?
I have a photo of the Premium X Diecast prototype. It's Ixo. Also, for virtually all of their partworks, Ixo will abstain from putting their name on something unless they have serious license fees to pay. Check out the not only the East Bloc partworks, but even the Spanish and French partworks. It's an interesting corporate policy they have that I guess I understand.
but how is a non-American to know if the Dodge Ram is car-based or not?
How is a non-Pole able to tell the differences between the successive models of Polski Fiat 125P/FSO 125P? I'm able to do that! )
But seriously, look at the cab and bed. If it doesn't look like it started out as a passenger car, odds are it was designed as a pickup.
I actually very carefully stated that the Ram looked “like a ute” rather than that it was one – hope this is good enough for you! Remember that I was looking at it through the packaging at a newsagent (triple layer consisting of the outer bag holding the model and the magazine, the model blister and the plastic case). So I think can be excused. I’m sure that if the model looked interesting enough to me, I would probably found out by now. By the way, I think all ute-sized vehicles are car based, at least in Australia/NZ, which includes imported vehicles such as Great Wall (http://www.greatwallmotors.com.au/default.asp?action=article&ID=21915). Designing a ute from scratch would be much more costly, so why not save time and money and simply adapt a car? Of course the American market is so much greater than it may make sense there. Having said all that, even to an Aussie motor journalist the Ram is a ute: http://www.caradvice.com.au/180980/dodge-ram-big-us-ute-set-australia/!
Thank you for your info about Ixo – not that I ever doubted it was them, but it is interesting how they don’t really want to be associated with partworks too much.
As for the Fiat/FSO 125p – that’s easy. Just like with any other car produced over a long period of time (for instance, VW Beetle), the details change reflecting materials/shapes/designs currently in use/fashion, so it is usually not too difficult to tell an earlier model from a later one.
Melancholy Echo - I am in Adelaide. I know a handful of newsagents who get these on the shelves, but unfortunately my lips are sealed as to the exact location, at least until I get the milk float 8-) - they may only get one of each model. With the Chevrolet truck I was at the same agent the day before and they had none, and the next day there was just one!
Haha, no fear Jag, I am in Sydney anyway I was originally subscribed, but cut it off when there were too many models that didn't tickle my fancy; the only issue being now that handpicking from newsagents is almost impossible!
I cancelled for exactly the same reason, but am still able to get more than half of the models that I like. No idea why some newsagents don't order JBCC at all.
Jag, you can ease up, I was being a bit facetious there...see the smileys...
As for Australian motoring journalism, I will agree that the term "ute" seems to be undergoing a bit of a change (I looked at the magazines geared toward younger readers and found the term is applied much like "bakkie" in South Africa, while older magazines, especially those dealing with vintage and classic cars and their restoration, uses "pickup") although not particularly a quick one. Go to another magazine and you'll likely see many classic trucks referenced as pickups (the Express-bodied DeSoto D100's of the 1950's spring immediately to mind, as do the Fords of the 1960's). I wasn't previously aware of said change, however, thank you for bringing it to my attention.
I cancelled for exactly the same reason, but am still able to get more than half of the models that I like. No idea why some newsagents don't order JBCC at all.
hi jag.....i suspect the reason why the newsagents over there dont stock is very similar to over here.....if the car does not sell the newsagent cannot send it back.........the margins on these cars are alot smaller than you think.......and its all at the discretion of the distributor......if the distributor has a monoploy( which certainly is the case in most countries) then the discount will be very small.......i Know for sure the margin can be as little as 10 percent over here for a small independant newsagent, which means he is still paying over 7 pounds for an item that retails at 7.99......when you couple this with the punitive breakage policies used ( if they get delivered one morning, you have till 10 oclock the same morning to report any damage or you cannot return it)...most newsagents have a busy time between 6 and 10 dealing with the the morning newspapers and it is often later in the day when things quieten down that you can get round to checking all the partworks!!..if there is an unpopular model, he is stuck with it on his shelf and utimately has to let it go a few weeks later for less than he paid for it....also, he cannot sell a popular model and try to get more supplies because the re-stock come from a different place and can take up to 6 weeks to arrive..........and in alot of cases, the newsagent has to pay in advance......the distributors also decide how many copies a newsagent gets..........quite often. if a models sells and you order double for the next issue, they will turn around and say no.......its a risky business, with alot of potential losses........thats why not every newsagent is prepared to go take the risks
All that doesn't apply in UK where no newsagent will take anything except on a sale or return basis. So newsagents are bribed to stock low price starter mag and then the customer has to order them from then on either through newsagent or direct from supplier to get the free models. So a few specialist movie type shops may stock them but they don't appear on shelves at supermarkets or newsagents. So whatever sales model is used they are difficult to get without subscription or regular order which is intended I guess to encourage you to commit.
All that doesn't apply in UK where no newsagent will take anything except on a sale or return basis. So newsagents are bribed to stock low price starter mag and then the customer has to order them from then on either through newsagent or direct from supplier to get the free models. So a few specialist movie type shops may stock them but they don't appear on shelves at supermarkets or newsagents. So whatever sales model is used they are difficult to get without subscription or regular order which is intended I guess to encourage you to commit.
hello maz.........i am a newsagent in uk and sadly, it all does apply here in uk.......yep you are right about the first 6 issues of a partwork ( on sale or return), but after that is all "firmware" which means it has to be bought and cant be returned.......there are some brave newsagents around who get one or 2 issues, but generally they dont because of the reasons i listed.........even if a customer decides to take a subscriptio or an order through the newsagent, the rules on the margins still apply...........the big nationals like the supermarkets dont take them for one main reason........its simply far too much trouble for them....they will often take the first few issues of a partwork and often ( if they sell every copy) they will go to issue 10 or 15....but VERY rarely will they continue after this....they KNOW that there will be problems at some stage and are not prepared to take any risk......Also, often the distribution company negotiated a blanket deal with the newsagent supply company and the Supermarkets like to negotiate their own deals, which inevitably involve a larger cut of the margin.....hence no deal.........its a cut-throat business..........hence publishers like Deagostini who are making headroads into their own distribution by selling some partworks on website only.....sadly they are a bit let down by the service, but the attraction of greater profits by cutting out 30% of the chain could give us a clue to where its all heading!!
Jag, you can ease up, I was being a bit facetious there...see the smileys...
As for Australian motoring journalism, I will agree that the term "ute" seems to be undergoing a bit of a change (I looked at the magazines geared toward younger readers and found the term is applied much like "bakkie" in South Africa, while older magazines, especially those dealing with vintage and classic cars and their restoration, uses "pickup") although not particularly a quick one. Go to another magazine and you'll likely see many classic trucks referenced as pickups (the Express-bodied DeSoto D100's of the 1950's spring immediately to mind, as do the Fords of the 1960's). I wasn't previously aware of said change, however, thank you for bringing it to my attention.
But of course I knew you were not trying to annoy me! ) Or if you were, you didn't try hard enough...
Yes, languages are living organisms and they change all the time. Even in Australia there is a variety of dialects, so what is a ute in SA may not be one in NSW. I am aware of linguists studying the use of some vocabulary in different parts of the country, though sadly I don't think they took this word into account.
Interesting info about newsagents, maz and yourmovemrbond. I really have no idea how it works here, but there are some newsagents that do take partworks and others don't. My local newsagent still has issue 51 on their partwork shelf. It must be the last issue they ordered. It is also very, very difficult to assess items like this for damages. Very often you have to remove the package to be sure - how are newsagents supposed to do that, even if they had a week to report? And what would happen if a customer bought a model back saying that they discovered the damage after unpacking?
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No news letter was included in this issue,so we're still in the dark as far as this collection is concerned.Thats as much as i can tell you.
I imagine subscribers will probably get it.
As for size, it does look oddly big at first...but then, have a look at some Wales & Edwards Rangemasters on the link below...the second to last and third from the bottom photos both illustrate pretty well that these vehicles were actually pretty large, especially given that they were three-wheeled milk floats...
http://www.milkfloats.org.uk/random3.html
Looking forward to the Louisiana Chevy
Add a pub sign 'Rovers Return' its then TV related a Coronation street special !
They were indeed quite big, most households back in the pre-supermarket days had milk delivered (possibly an average of two glass pint bottles per house) so the carrying capacity needed to be substantial or these vehicles would have to return to their depots to re-stock. Being electric, that would drain the batteries too. They also often carried minor groceries, and butter etc in coolers, so combine that with the weight of milk and batteries, you can see the reason for twin wheels on the back axle. BTW, I believe UK road tax was a fair bit cheaper for '3 wheelers' back in the day, which is why they had that configuration. Winnie's right, most of these electric vehicles disappeared back in the early 90's making way for diesel Ford Transit milk floats which are also now nearly extinct. Most people in the UK have a mini supermarket close by, so buy milk in large plastic containers - much the same as most other countries.
What a movie ! Brilliant!
If you haven't seen it , it's a must see!
Ok I understand now why the DB5 was featured, enough said .
The others all worthy of a model in this collection
The landrover Defender, discovery met police and range rover
The Jaguar XJL and Audi A5. What about the caterpillar excavator !
Not so bothered about beetles .
I went to see Casino Royale at the cinema and wished I hadn't - it came across as a bit of a chick-flick especially with the audience being mostly female and so many close-ups of Craig. I didn't get on with DC's take on Bond in CR either, so much so I refused to go see QOS at the cinema with my missis, she went with my daughter. However, when I saw QOS on DVD I really wish I HAD seen it at the cinema, mostly for the DBS and Alfas chase, but I also thought it was a really good action movie and DC was more acceptable as Bond. Skyfall IMHO is very much the same as QOS, great action scenes that come across well on the big screen, well acted, and as for the DB5, well, if you like DB5s........(drool)
To me, the 2 later DC Bond movies come across very much like the Bourne movies, but without the vomit inducing shaky-cam, which is a good thing. I think DC is more acceptable as Bond and the alternatives could be a lot worse - a teenager's favourite sulky pin-up who can't act, for instance.
They're calling full-size pickups utes in Australia now? Used to be a divider line (still used by my cousins) that if it was car-based, it was a ute, if it wasn't, it was either a "pickup", "utility truck", or, what with them being transplanted South Africans and all, "bakkie" to apply to virtually any utility vehicle.
By the way, making the outside of the cargo bed look wooden shouldn't be too hard, but what are your plans for the inside?
Where abouts are you in Australia that your newsagent still gets the mag on the shelf, Jag?
None around me ever do; some are even clueless that it's still continuing.
Melancholy Echo - I am in Adelaide. I know a handful of newsagents who get these on the shelves, but unfortunately my lips are sealed as to the exact location, at least until I get the milk float 8-) - they may only get one of each model. With the Chevrolet truck I was at the same agent the day before and they had none, and the next day there was just one!
On the subject of the Chevrolet, it would have made an excellent diorama, but unfortnatel we got a showroom specimen instead. I recently got some Tamiya Weatherin Master for an unrelated project, so I had a little practice - you can see the results below. Strangely, when I removed the model from the base (fixed with extremely long Philips screws), the Ixo name was not to be seen anywhere. Are we sure it actually is Ixo?
I have a photo of the Premium X Diecast prototype. It's Ixo. Also, for virtually all of their partworks, Ixo will abstain from putting their name on something unless they have serious license fees to pay. Check out the not only the East Bloc partworks, but even the Spanish and French partworks. It's an interesting corporate policy they have that I guess I understand.
How is a non-Pole able to tell the differences between the successive models of Polski Fiat 125P/FSO 125P? I'm able to do that!
But seriously, look at the cab and bed. If it doesn't look like it started out as a passenger car, odds are it was designed as a pickup.
Thank you for your info about Ixo – not that I ever doubted it was them, but it is interesting how they don’t really want to be associated with partworks too much.
As for the Fiat/FSO 125p – that’s easy. Just like with any other car produced over a long period of time (for instance, VW Beetle), the details change reflecting materials/shapes/designs currently in use/fashion, so it is usually not too difficult to tell an earlier model from a later one.
Haha, no fear Jag, I am in Sydney anyway
Nice work on the Flower Truck, Jag - it looks so much more in keeping with FRWL 'dirtied up' like that.
As for Australian motoring journalism, I will agree that the term "ute" seems to be undergoing a bit of a change (I looked at the magazines geared toward younger readers and found the term is applied much like "bakkie" in South Africa, while older magazines, especially those dealing with vintage and classic cars and their restoration, uses "pickup") although not particularly a quick one. Go to another magazine and you'll likely see many classic trucks referenced as pickups (the Express-bodied DeSoto D100's of the 1950's spring immediately to mind, as do the Fords of the 1960's). I wasn't previously aware of said change, however, thank you for bringing it to my attention.
hello maz.........i am a newsagent in uk and sadly, it all does apply here in uk.......yep you are right about the first 6 issues of a partwork ( on sale or return), but after that is all "firmware" which means it has to be bought and cant be returned.......there are some brave newsagents around who get one or 2 issues, but generally they dont because of the reasons i listed.........even if a customer decides to take a subscriptio or an order through the newsagent, the rules on the margins still apply...........the big nationals like the supermarkets dont take them for one main reason........its simply far too much trouble for them....they will often take the first few issues of a partwork and often ( if they sell every copy) they will go to issue 10 or 15....but VERY rarely will they continue after this....they KNOW that there will be problems at some stage and are not prepared to take any risk......Also, often the distribution company negotiated a blanket deal with the newsagent supply company and the Supermarkets like to negotiate their own deals, which inevitably involve a larger cut of the margin.....hence no deal.........its a cut-throat business..........hence publishers like Deagostini who are making headroads into their own distribution by selling some partworks on website only.....sadly they are a bit let down by the service, but the attraction of greater profits by cutting out 30% of the chain could give us a clue to where its all heading!!
But of course I knew you were not trying to annoy me!
Yes, languages are living organisms and they change all the time. Even in Australia there is a variety of dialects, so what is a ute in SA may not be one in NSW. I am aware of linguists studying the use of some vocabulary in different parts of the country, though sadly I don't think they took this word into account.