James Bond Car Collection - Questions and praise

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  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent

    Diecast007 wrote:
    Yes I agree but if it is ending why have we not been told officially.

    Look at it from the other side: we WERE officially told the collection was ending at 110. If you're doing PR work for Eaglemoss, are you going to keep people hanging so there's more talk generated about the collection, or are you going to say "okay, it's done" when you still have eight weeks to get out extra sales?

    Bearing in mind it was Fabbri who sent out letters before, perhaps Eaglemoss don't operate in the same way. Maybe in place of the 'coming next' page at the back of issue 135, there will be an advert for a new miniature teapot collection partwork - and that will be all.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Bearing in mind it was Fabbri who sent out letters before, perhaps Eaglemoss don't operate in the same way. Maybe in place of the 'coming next' page at the back of issue 135, there will be an advert for a new miniature teapot collection partwork - and that will be all.

    I realize you are of course joking but I remember when La Route Bleue was finally winding down I seem to recall Altaya advertising a comic book partwork. No, not comic book cars, a partwork of comic books themselves. :#
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • Sabreman64Sabreman64 London, UKPosts: 19MI6 Agent
    To be honest, I'll be glad when this series ends with 135. Between the DB5 series and this car collection, I've had it with all of Fabbri/Eaglemoss's balls-ups.

    A couple of months ago, my debit card payment for the car subscription failed. So I had to phone them to confirm my card details. After that phone call, I was then charged for two deliveries, and didn't receive issues 130 and 131. So I phoned them about 10 days ago, and was told that replacements for 130 and 131 would be sent to me. I received a package today containing only 130 (despite the fact that the address label had "Product ID: 130/131" printed on it). I've just got off the phone to Eaglemoss and was told that since 131 is currently out of stock, I should phone back in a couple of weeks and if they have it in stock they will send it to me. What's that?! I have to phone them in a couple of weeks on the off chance the issue is in stock? What if it's still out of stock? Do I wait another week or two and then phone them again? Why can't they simply send copies of the issue out to people who are waiting for it as soon as it arrives in stock? Surely it's not that hard to do that, is it? What a complete bunch of muppets.
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Sabreman64 wrote:
    To be honest, I'll be glad when this series ends with 135. Between the DB5 series and this car collection, I've had it with all of Fabbri/Eaglemoss's balls-ups.

    A couple of months ago, my debit card payment for the car subscription failed. So I had to phone them to confirm my card details. After that phone call, I was then charged for two deliveries, and didn't receive issues 130 and 131. So I phoned them about 10 days ago, and was told that replacements for 130 and 131 would be sent to me. I received a package today containing only 130 (despite the fact that the address label had "Product ID: 130/131" printed on it). I've just got off the phone to Eaglemoss and was told that since 131 is currently out of stock, I should phone back in a couple of weeks and if they have it in stock they will send it to me. What's that?! I have to phone them in a couple of weeks on the off chance the issue is in stock? What if it's still out of stock? Do I wait another week or two and then phone them again? Why can't they simply send copies of the issue out to people who are waiting for it as soon as it arrives in stock? Surely it's not that hard to do that, is it? What a complete bunch of muppets.

    Usually, whenever I've rung database over the years, they have nearly always been very clear on stock and delivery dates etc. However, the last few times I've called, there has initially been confusion over whether I'm calling about the JBCC or the DB5 kit, then whether they have stock (even with new releases), then whether they can actually send out any of the stock shown on their screens. One operator explained she was new to the job, but I get the impression something else is going on, maybe something to do with the prospective end of the JBCC, or some big change of personnel. Either way, I've been getting good results by ringing them every few days if something is 'out of stock' - their stock seems to change from day to day and also just how helpful/unhelpful they are. I certainly wouldn't wait two weeks to call them.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    [...]I get the impression something else is going on, maybe something to do with the prospective end of the JBCC, or some big change of personnel.

    I think this should be interpreted as another sign that they're starting to pack it in. Think of it this way: you have two partsworks, A and B. Partwork A makes you exponentially more money...but it's also been running for about six years, literally every model has been manufactured for it, the deliveries have already been taken, the magazines are already printed up, and you have literally two packages left to deliver to subscribers. That is the state of the JBCC.

    Partwork B (which is a hypothetical; it could be anything...let's just call it "The Widget Partwork") isn't too much of a moneymaker, but it's only about halfway through (in fact, let's say it's Eaglemoss's number three earner in the UK). Subscriptions aren't particularly high, but they're also pretty steady. About 75% of the Widget Partwork's products are either completed or designed, but the actual magazines in many cases have not yet been printed up and there's still that pesky 25% of the product that hasn't been manufactured.

    Other than the finality of the JBCC, what questions do we really have about it? There's only ONE issue...the Land Rover that will be #134 (which wikipedia now says is a Defender...should be fun to see if it's a Defender 110 or a Discovery 4!)...that we've not seen. Logically, the UK phone operators would be drawn down to fulfillment only. Likewise, since there are only four issues left and only two packages left for subscribers, it would be logical to prepare for the end of the partwork and transfer your most experienced personnel elsewhere.

    The Widget Partwork may be as boring as watching paint dry to us, but it does after all make money for Eaglemoss. With a likely-larger variety of questions asked per capita about the partwork since it's only halfway done and 25% of the actual widgets have not even been manufactured and are likely only on a tentative list, wouldn't those experienced personnel (who, it should be said, almost certainly have experince with partworks other than the JBCC) be more valuable to the number-three-earning Widget Partwork rather than the JBCC?

    I admit this is a gross oversimplification, but I don't want to start sounding like I'm teaching a Business Management 101 class. In short, if you start seeing experienced personnel transferred away from the partwork in greater quantities, then the partwork itself is almost certainly winding down. I would imagine the partwork team itself would actually stay together longer since they're still involved with many of the other countries that are still about 10-20 issues behind the UK. After that, though, the partwork becomes a fulfillment service, in which form it will likely live on for multiple years. I'm fairly certain you can still order back issues of La Route Bleue and Taxis of the World (Part I, now that we know we're getting a Part II), for example, even though both partworks ended almost three years ago.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
    I think Database Warehouse situation is even simpler than that. They are a contracted fulfillment company working for multiple vendors not just Eaglemoss doing web and phone orders etc. I think that mailing and warehouse part of the operation is done by another company and they just give database updates from Warehouse in N.E. Database Warehouse seem pretty sure that Eaglemoss will drop dead at 135 and so they will then go onto back orders only payment from Eaglemoss which will presumably cut income radically. They are almost certainly shifting staff to new contracts or even laying them off if new contracts don't exist. ANY other active or prospective customer is going to get priority over a contract that is almost done..... The warehouse/despatch outfit will be in exactly the same situation gearing up shelving etc for new customers and piling JBCC in a secondary location.....
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Just as an additional note to the above, some time ago Database told me that back orders would be available for 2 months after the final JBCC issue. Unless things have changed, anybody relying on that method of purchase might want to think about ordering any missing numbers they've been considering buying.
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
    Good reminder movie car fan. As a cherry picker its about time I checked!
  • BleuvilleBleuville Posts: 384MI6 Agent
    maz wrote:
    Good reminder movie car fan. As a cherry picker its about time I checked!


    If JBCC Car No. 134 is a Land Rover Discovery 4, could it be the Police vehicle that Silva makes his
    getaway in after the attack on the committee?

    Often with previous police vehicle models they say the car name, but not that it's in Police livery.

    Bleuville
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited December 2012
    Bleuville wrote:
    If JBCC Car No. 134 is a Land Rover Discovery 4, could it be the Police vehicle that Silva makes his
    getaway in after the attack on the committee?

    I would imagine so, given that no other Discovery 4 really played much of a role at all.

    I still think this is going to be a Defender 110 unless Ixo makes it. After all, despite what the German list said, we didn't get a Mercedes-Benz 220S (although we did get a solidly-done 180), we didn't get a Willys Jeep M606 (although we did get a correct Mahindra CJ-3A; no Willys M606 ever appeared in a Bond film), and we didn't get a Daimler X308 Super 8, either (there is always the cringe-inducing possibility that UH makes it out of the Range Rover Sport...).

    Why the Defender? The "battle damage" makes it a great subject and it played a larger role. Add that to the fact that UH has existing moulds (albeit not perfect...as MCF points out regarding the hood) and I just don't see this being a Discovery 4. Maybe Ixo planned and even made a Discovery 4 (because they were almost surely planning a '64 Continental Convertible since that will eventually be seen in Premium X Diecast and still ARE planning some form of 1970's Rolls-Royce, likely for Premium X resin) and when they dropped out, since Eaglemoss only had three cars to replace (assuming, of course, the DB5 would regardless have been UH and the Discovery 4 was not put out by Ixo), they did so somewhat crudely with UH models in two cases and the jury is still out on the Land Rover.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • dodgedavisdodgedavis Posts: 4MI6 Agent
    Sorry, if I am shorthanded here. I didn't read through all the recent threads, but are they doing any models from the Skyfall movie, which I have yet to see?
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    dodgedavis wrote:
    but are they doing any models from the Skyfall movie, which I have yet to see?

    Welcome back to the thread! The answer is yes, Issue 133 (Aston Martin DB5) and Issue 134 (Land Rover of unknown type; it'll either be a Discovery 4 or a Defender 110).
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    dodgedavis wrote:
    but are they doing any models from the Skyfall movie, which I have yet to see?

    Welcome back to the thread! The answer is yes, Issue 133 (Aston Martin DB5) and Issue 134 (Land Rover of unknown type; it'll either be a Discovery 4 or a Defender 110).


    133_Skyfall_DB5.jpg

    The Skyfall DB5 with Scottish scenery background
  • redsleighdownredsleighdown USAPosts: 450MI6 Agent
    First time posting on this thread. Anyone know where I can get a 1:72 DB5? Cheers.
  • tibre007tibre007 The NetherlandsPosts: 31MI6 Agent
    Shell had brought some years ago 5 James Bond Cars. Also a DB5 and I think there are in the size 1:72.
    Look at eBay for it, often they are offered there.
  • DokkDokk Posts: 382MI6 Agent
    Im a subscriber, have bee. Since day one just picked up from sorting office. But it only contained the milk. Float...has this happened to any one else??????.... -{ :007)
  • redsleighdownredsleighdown USAPosts: 450MI6 Agent
    tibre007 wrote:
    Shell had brought some years ago 5 James Bond Cars. Also a DB5 and I think there are in the size 1:72.
    Look at eBay for it, often they are offered there.

    Shell cars are 1:64. I'll keep looking.
  • Rainier WolfcastleRainier Wolfcastle Posts: 484MI6 Agent
    Kyosho made Bond cars in 1:72, including two versions of the DB5, one with raised shield and Swiss plates. Here are both types as completed auctions, I didn't find any current ones but a search for "Kyosho Bond" usually is successful. They are not that rare.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/007-Kyosho-1-72-Aston-martin-DB5-B-James-Bond-Minicar-Collection-2006-No-1-64-/261114661710

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/007-Kyosho-1-72-Aston-martin-DB5-A-James-Bond-Minicar-Collection-2006-No-1-64-/261114661375
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Kyosho made Bond cars in 1:72, including two versions of the DB5, one with raised shield and Swiss plates. Here are both types as completed auctions, I didn't find any current ones but a search for "Kyosho Bond" usually is successful. They are not that rare.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/007-Kyosho-1-72-Aston-martin-DB5-B-James-Bond-Minicar-Collection-2006-No-1-64-/261114661710

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/007-Kyosho-1-72-Aston-martin-DB5-A-James-Bond-Minicar-Collection-2006-No-1-64-/261114661375

    I've never really thought about these smaller scale Bond models before, but they actually look like a very nice set. They wouldn't take up much room to display either.
  • sniperUKsniperUK UlsterPosts: 594MI6 Agent
    Cararama make one in 1/72 ,silver with the correct registration. Black one here http://www.prestigediecast.co.uk/black-aston-martin-db5-172-cararama-model/
  • redsleighdownredsleighdown USAPosts: 450MI6 Agent
    Cheers gents! The reason I'm looking for that size is to compliment the skyfall AgustaWestland AW101 that comes in 1:100 and 1:72 I believe.
  • Rainier WolfcastleRainier Wolfcastle Posts: 484MI6 Agent
    Cheers gents! The reason I'm looking for that size is to compliment the skyfall AgustaWestland AW101 that comes in 1:100 and 1:72 I believe.
    Good idea, redsleigh, to display the helicopter next to a matching DB5. The 1:72 unfortunately is a plastic kit (which I will keep unopened), and the 1:100 a diecast ready-built (I'd prefer a 1:72 diecast but you can't have everything :# ). For this purpose the Kyosho Type B DB5 would be the best, it has the BMT 216A plates and the front machine guns deployed. I had forgot about the Cararama version although I have it ... Its details are no match for the Kyosho, the wheels are poor, but it doesn't look bad from a normal viewing distance, and it is cheap to get. There are two different silver versions, I think the lighter one is a closer match to Silver Birch. Both have the BMT 216A plate.

    Regarding the Kyoshos: They are very nice but I wouldn't pay too much for them. The complete set of 15 was sold for about $79 a few years back so paying $22 for one piece is insane. It is probably better to wait for a complete set and then sell off the models you don't need instead of paying that much for single models.
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    Dokk wrote:
    Im a subscriber, have bee. Since day one just picked up from sorting office. But it only contained the milk. Float...has this happened to any one else??????.... -{ :007)

    Yep with issue 120 and 121 . Have phoned numerous times have been sent 121 still waiting for 120 .
  • Hookline1Hookline1 Posts: 1MI6 Agent
    I have just spoken with Eaglemoss and they confirmed to me that issue 135 will be the last one.

    I was updating my details so took an opportunity to ask how many more payments they would be taking. Was told the next payment to cover issues 134 and 135 would be the last
  • Leijo007Leijo007 Posts: 106MI6 Agent
    -CR (7): Jaguar XJ8, Daimler DS420 Limo, Range Rover Sport, Daimler X350 Super 8 (which never appeared in the film, the X308 did), Land Rover Defender, 2001 Ford Crown Victoria Miami-Dade Police Car, ZIL-117 SWB Limousine

    You forgot the CR Aston Martin DBS, and if I add all the numbers I end up at 140 (without the CR DBS!). How is this possible? Are you listing cars not in the collection? Mind you, I didn't check every car to see if they're in the collection, so maybe I'm missing your point...
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Leijo007 wrote:
    You forgot the CR Aston Martin DBS, and if I add all the numbers I end up at 140 (without the CR DBS!). How is this possible? Are you listing cars not in the collection? Mind you, I didn't check every car to see if they're in the collection, so maybe I'm missing your point...

    I don't think I forgot it; I think I added it to CR by mistake! ;%

    However, I also added in all the promos, so that would explain the number.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Hookline1 wrote:
    I have just spoken with Eaglemoss and they confirmed to me that issue 135 will be the last one.

    I was updating my details so took an opportunity to ask how many more payments they would be taking. Was told the next payment to cover issues 134 and 135 would be the last

    Welcome to the forum and the thread Hookline! If they told you the payment for 134/135 would be the last, they didn't even do that in the UK for 110 pre-orders. To me, this means the partwork is ending without any kind of question.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • Leijo007Leijo007 Posts: 106MI6 Agent
    Leijo007 wrote:
    You forgot the CR Aston Martin DBS, and if I add all the numbers I end up at 140 (without the CR DBS!). How is this possible? Are you listing cars not in the collection? Mind you, I didn't check every car to see if they're in the collection, so maybe I'm missing your point...

    I don't think I forgot it; I think I added it to CR by mistake! ;%

    However, I also added in all the promos, so that would explain the number.

    I think you made a mistake again! I said you forgot the CR Aston Martin DBS, and you say you think you added it to CR by mistake. So to which movie DID you add it by mistake? ;) And, including the three vehicles only sent out to subscribers, that still only makes 138 verhicles, not 140 (or 141)...
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    tibre007 wrote:
    Shell had brought some years ago 5 James Bond Cars. Also a DB5 and I think there are in the size 1:72.
    Look at eBay for it, often they are offered there.

    Shell cars are 1:64. I'll keep looking.

    I don't think they are 1:64 as I bought them as a job lot after the promo finished for my little boy. They are much smaller than the 1:64 hotwheels or matchbox. To be honest they are not that great as models and I am glad I only paid £0.50 per model and not the £4.99 originally asked after spending so much on fuel ! I think Oxford do a db5 in 1/72 .
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Leijo007 wrote:
    I think you made a mistake again! I said you forgot the CR Aston Martin DBS, and you say you think you added it to CR by mistake. So to which movie DID you add it by mistake? ;) And, including the three vehicles only sent out to subscribers, that still only makes 138 verhicles, not 140 (or 141)...

    Correction...we BOTH made mistakes. I added up the vehicle total four times and got 136 (so, missing two, although you found one with the CR DBS).
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
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