Well after all the 'is it' 'isn't it' questions and answers regarding the finish of the partwork we finally know for sure with the simple repayment of £7.99 to bank accounts when we had previously been debited £15.98. Money is king so we know absolutely 134 will be the final issue. I'm not sure where i fit as either a Bondcentric or carcentric. I suppose I'm really the former although since my childhood (Corgi, Dinky, Matchbox, Spot-on etc) I have always has a weakness for model cars and do own a number now but I came to this series because of Bond and I for one have enjoyed the whole series. I marvel at the knowledge of the guys on this thread of both Bond and model cars in general. I would have liked to see 'proper' dioramas and the use of figures much more especially as Bond is all about action and not static but as many of the comments before have noted that would have meant a higher cost of each model but something I think most of us would have agreed to. This also the first partwork I have signed up to and unless really tempted will probably be my last. Talk about agony and ecstasy!!! Anyway although my comments have been few and far between I have always kept a watch on the thread and I'm sure lots of other people have as well even though not contributing and I hope it continues in whatever vein is decided upon. I wish you all a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. I'm sure we will all be catching up on a few Bond movies over the holiday. Cheers
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Bradly! By the way, how much Spot-On do have left? Along with Minic, it's easily the most underrated diecast ever to come out of the UK.
Ok here is the Audi 200 as we should have got. Number plates still need to
be changed. This is the Neo version correct colour etc etc. I owned an Audi and this looks amazing. The UH Audi is more like a rarer Audi 90
Merry Christmas Diecast007! That will be a superb Code 3 once the correct number plates are installed! Do you plan on transfer decals, stickers, or something else?
EDIT: By the way, would you believe the Code 3'd car below has the plates installed with double-stick tape (albeit sized to fit the plate exactly)?
License plate and color (which is factory-supplied) are from a real East German Volvo 164.
Ok here is the Audi 200 as we should have got. Number plates still need to
be changed. This is the Neo version correct colour etc etc. I owned an Audi and this looks amazing. The UH Audi is more like a rarer Audi 90
Merry Christmas Diecast007! That will be a superb Code 3 once the correct number plates are installed! Do you plan on transfer decals, stickers, or something else?
EDIT: By the way, would you believe the Code 3'd car below has the plates installed with double-stick tape (albeit sized to fit the plate exactly)?
License plate and color (which is factory-supplied) are from a real East German Volvo 164.
I think I will print them and use double sided tape. I like the Volvo my school friend had one of those when I had a 82 Renault 18 we were both 17
I think I will print them and use double sided tape. I like the Volvo my school friend had one of those when I had a 82 Renault 18 we were both 17
I believe it comes in several other colors (notably light blue metallic, plus a US spec model in cream) and is also a Neo model. Going with double-stick tape is a good choice for Neo because of 1) the price point and 2) you don't permanently damage the license plates/can peel it off any time you want.
As for the Renault 18...whimsically nicknamed the "Rolls-Royce din Romania" ("Romanian Rolls-Royce")...it was pretty big to see one there until they got Peugeot 504's to take over the nickname.
Hi Dalkowski110, in answer to your question not very many models unfortunately. I have a few Spot-on models and also,as you mention it, a few Minic models. I agree with what you say that Spot-on and Minic were always very underated models although looking at them now I haven't a clue why. I think the availability of Corgi, Dinky and Matchbox in virtually every toy shop in Britain in the 1950's, 1960's and 1970's and the Companies advertising helped their cause tremendously. I think also Minic always look to me like models made for teenagers and adults whereas Corgi, Dinky and particularly Matchbox were always very much aimed at the younger children. Looking at for instance the Corgi boxes from the 1960's, and I'm thinking in particular the movie related ones e.g Batman, James Bond, Man from Uncle, Green Hornet, The Avengers and so on, they always had superb boxes with great extras so seemed more suited to the older purchaser but not so. Most of us around as children during that era bought these models when we were only say 6 to 13 years of age. We also had other demands on our pocket money such as Subbuteo, American DC comics, Britains Toy Soldiers, Scalextric. Looking back it was a great time to be a child and as every kid from that era will tell you now if only we had kept our collections intact instead of allowing our Mothers' to give them away to a younger kid 'up the road' as we grew older. I don't have a huge collection but still quite a number of Corgi's, Dinky's and Matchbox. Of course I now also have 133 James Bond Car Collection models as well!!!! Cheers
Merry Christmas / Happy Holidays to all, and best wishes for happy collecting in 2013.
Someone bought me the Roger Moore "Bond on Bond" book for Xmas, so perhaps I am veering towards the mid Bond / Car - centric position after all.
I am sure most have seen it, but the Top Gear Bond car special was certainly a watchable programme, even if there were not too many surprises for us lot!
Thanks for the message bradly! To answer your question about Spot-On, the problem with them was that Corgi came along. They presented a nice alternative to Dinky, but simply could not compete with two different companies. They simply didn't have the ability to compete with Corgi's price point or Dinky's brand-name recognition. Corgi developing friction motors, windows, and interiors should have sounded a few alarm bells, but it didn't. Instead, in 1964, Spot-On Models' parent company, Tri-ang, basically gave up and bought out Meccano (Dinky's parent company), which eventually collapsed in 1969.
Minic has always been a bit more complex. They started out as a very distinct line of toys also owned by Tri-ang where they featured clockwork motors. However, after WWII, they no longer had the clockwork motors in many cases and were simply the "detail" versions of Spot-On. But as the years went by, Minic had trouble finding a market niche. If you think of it, they'd have had to start competing against Spot-On to actually work. Instead, Tri-ang gambled that they could save them by marketing to older kids instead of throwing their efforts into Spot-On and wound up killing both lines, essentially. Why they did what they did was truly beyond me and frankly baffles quite a few people who've attempted to see through Tri-ang's eyes.
Spot On suffered in three ways. Firstly they were dearer than corgi and dinky which was is not a good idea when selling against more established brands. Secondly they were sold into existing lines brothers stockists and few other locations so they tended to be sold into shops selling prams. Ride on horses etc in Coventry that meant that I think City Pram were the only stockists in town not far away from Midland Educational that stocked full ranges of Corgi,Dinky and Britain's models. Finally I think that they lagged on features compared to Corgi in particular.
I rather suspect collectors brought them even at the beginning given the number of boxed models around and the relatively small sales.
Some of the models were really good and stand up to renovating with better wheels and some are toy like due to the strange way grille and lights are all in one unit with connectors between grille and lights.
All fill me with nostalgia for a much simpler time long ago.
Thanks for the message bradly! To answer your question about Spot-On, the problem with them was that Corgi came along. They presented a nice alternative to Dinky, but simply could not compete with two different companies. They simply didn't have the ability to compete with Corgi's price point or Dinky's brand-name recognition. Corgi developing friction motors, windows, and interiors should have sounded a few alarm bells, but it didn't. Instead, in 1964, Spot-On Models' parent company, Tri-ang, basically gave up and bought out Meccano (Dinky's parent company), which eventually collapsed in 1969.
Minic has always been a bit more complex. They started out as a very distinct line of toys also owned by Tri-ang where they featured clockwork motors. However, after WWII, they no longer had the clockwork motors in many cases and were simply the "detail" versions of Spot-On. But as the years went by, Minic had trouble finding a market niche. If you think of it, they'd have had to start competing against Spot-On to actually work. Instead, Tri-ang gambled that they could save them by marketing to older kids instead of throwing their efforts into Spot-On and wound up killing both lines, essentially. Why they did what they did was truly beyond me and frankly baffles quite a few people who've attempted to see through Tri-ang's eyes.
Merry Christmas / Happy Holidays to all, and best wishes for happy collecting in 2013.
Thanks!!! And to all as well on this forum!
By the way, if you had TEN models you thought were neglected by this collection (as in, not done at all), what would they be? Here's my list...
1) Aston Martin Vantage, no gadgets (TLD).
2) Yellow Moke (TSWLM).
3) UAZ-469B Russian Army 4x4 (GE).
4) Kenworth W-900 Truck Cab (LTK).
5) Land Rover Defender 110, battle-damaged (SF).
6) Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow Mulliner-Park Ward Drophead Coupe (OHMSS).
7) Rolls-Royce Silver Wraith (FRWL)
8) 1971 Ford Custom 500 Clark County Sheriff's Car (DAF)
9) 1961 Chevrolet Impala Sport Sedan (DN)
10) Jaguar XJ-L Saloon (SF)
Great list dal110
Here is mine
1) AEC Regent LALD
2) Kenworth LTK
3) Jaguar XJ -L SF
4) landrover discovery 4 met police SF
5) Audi A5 SF
6) Volvo V70 met police SF
7) Prisoner transport truck LTK
8) Vanish DAD
9) Ford Mondeo CR
10) NYC ford Taxi CR or was it QOS
Ten models they should have done but didn't eh? Easy one this.
Maybe if they had done these it would still be going on?
1. Zorrin's Airship. A View To A Kill.
2. AEC Regent III. Bottom half of the Bus. Live And Let Die.
3. The Kenworth W-900 Cab. Licence To Kill.
4. Moonraker 6 Shuttle. Moonraker.
5. Aston Martin Vanquish - Invisible (Not an empty box as some have called for,but solid clear plastic)
Die Another Day.
6. Ferrari F355 Berlinetta (The yellow car that fell out of the plane at the end of Die Another Day.)
7. Rolls-Royce Phantom II. Octopussy.
8. Lada 1500. Normal,not cut in half. The Living Daylights.
9. Land-Rover Range Rover (Zorrin) A View To A Kill.
10. Jetski and Bond. The Spy Who Loved Me.
8. Lada 1500. Normal,not cut in half. The Living Daylights.
Foxtoys made a Verejna Bezpecnost Lada 1500 that is true to real life, albeit not the film. The lettering on the mocked up film cars was the wrong font, the radio antenna was in the wrong place, and the sirens weren't the correct shape. The real cars also had chrome trim (as counterintuitive as that sounds), although the film cars didn't (again, probably because it sounded really counterintuitive). It's NOT a cheap model, though: you'll wind up paying about $75-$100 USD for it, all told.
Spot On suffered in three ways. Firstly they were dearer than corgi and dinky which was is not a good idea when selling against more established brands. Secondly they were sold into existing lines brothers stockists and few other locations so they tended to be sold into shops selling prams. Ride on horses etc in Coventry that meant that I think City Pram were the only stockists in town not far away from Midland Educational that stocked full ranges of Corgi,Dinky and Britain's models. Finally I think that they lagged on features compared to Corgi in particular.
I rather suspect collectors brought them even at the beginning given the number of boxed models around and the relatively small sales.
Some of the models were really good and stand up to renovating with better wheels and some are toy like due to the strange way grille and lights are all in one unit with connectors between grille and lights.
All fill me with nostalgia for a much simpler time long ago.
I would agree about the lights and grille as well as lagging on features compared to Corgi. Sometimes, especially on some of the 1/42 scale trucks, the grille/lights unit actually looks pretty good. However, any car with headlights on stalks was prone to looking a little odd. I was also aware they were poorly-distributed, but not of specifics. Fortunately, Norev has remade some of the better cars (I know you know that Maz, but in case anyone else was wondering) so you don't have to dump several hundred USD for one in good shape. As for boxed models, I thought that was due to a "cache" of NOS being found and sold (a bit like when Madison Hardware blew out their Dinky stock going back to the early 1950's after a fire in 1977, I think [would have to ask Dad, as he was the one that bought tons of them at a greatly reduced price])?
Guess youmay be right about boxes of spot on turning up. Slow sellers often end up forgotten in corners or did in the days before computerised warehouses. The distribution thing is UK only I have no idea how they were sold in the USA.
Back to bond now. Went to bid toyfair yesterday and a lot less bond on tables and no 5 pound clearance tables either. Prices for what was on show 7 pounds and upwards. Guess once it is over and back orders closed down prices for best issues will gradually rise.
I was quite interested in the re-made Spot-On models made by Norev when they were announced but when I looked at them in a hobby shop I realised I was more of a "Minichamps generation" collector than someone who collects the toys of their youth - the lack of detail killed off any nostalgia I was feeling.
Despite being occasionally tempted by a Matchbox RS2000 here or a Corgi CCBB there, the only toy car I previously owned that I have bought again in recent years is the Corgi Kojak Buick - a very playworn one that I got very cheaply, for a restoration project that has yet to start! Having the resource of IMCDb available nowadays, one can see that Corgi didn't get it quite right with this model as they have modelled (what appears to me to be) some hybrid of a Regal 2dr and a Century sedan. DB110 mentioned this car recently when ideas for a new partwork were being discussed.
Back to bond now. Went to bid toyfair yesterday and a lot less bond on tables and no 5 pound clearance tables either. Prices for what was on show 7 pounds and upwards. Guess once it is over and back orders closed down prices for best issues will gradually rise.
Good and bad news, I suppose, depending on whether one is buying or selling! After seeing some ideas on here recently I might be looking for a cheap Vantage and Volante myself
I was in a newsagent this past week and they'd placed on sale some uncollected JBCC back-orders (back-orders are done through the newsagent here) - I bought the TWINE RR (which I had to back-order myself previously) as an investment as I've been seeing climbing prices for this one on eBay recently. Also going were the DAF Cadillac Hearse (already have 2, 1 to be sold on down the line), the OP Range Rover and the DAD Hovercraft.
I can't remember whether it's been mentioned on here before, but with a bit more time on my hands during this holiday season I have been visiting websites that I only get to occasionally - in this case ModelCarWorld (Germany) where I found the following news listed under November 2012 announcements:
IXO 1:43, Land Rover Discovery 4 schwarz 2010
IXO 1:43, Land Rover Discovery 4 Silber 2010
IXO 1:43, Land Rover Discovery 4 Surrey UK Police / Polizei, weiß 2010
IXO 1:43, Land Rover Discovery 4 2010 Dublin Flughafenfeuerwehr, Airport Fire Service Rescue 2010
There is our original Issue 134, I reckon
Thanks to both Dalkowski110 and Maz for their informed comments re: Spot-on and Minic versus Corgi/Dinky/Matchbox. It cements my thoughts on the distribution and availability etc of the various models. I'm with Maz thinking of those simpler times and the nostalgia that brings. I love the artwork on 1950's/1960's models' boxes in much the same way I love the artwork of the comics from the same period. As example Batman 1950'/60's versus Batman today. The 1950's/60's artwork very soft and colourful and now all dark/dismal/nightmarish. Happy New Year everyone.
I was quite interested in the re-made Spot-On models made by Norev when they were announced but when I looked at them in a hobby shop I realised I was more of a "Minichamps generation" collector than someone who collects the toys of their youth - the lack of detail killed off any nostalgia I was feeling.
Despite being occasionally tempted by a Matchbox RS2000 here or a Corgi CCBB there, the only toy car I previously owned that I have bought again in recent years is the Corgi Kojak Buick - a very playworn one that I got very cheaply, for a restoration project that has yet to start! Having the resource of IMCDb available nowadays, one can see that Corgi didn't get it quite right with this model as they have modelled (what appears to me to be) some hybrid of a Regal 2dr and a Century sedan. DB110 mentioned this car recently when ideas for a new partwork were being discussed.
Back to bond now. Went to bid toyfair yesterday and a lot less bond on tables and no 5 pound clearance tables either. Prices for what was on show 7 pounds and upwards. Guess once it is over and back orders closed down prices for best issues will gradually rise.
Good and bad news, I suppose, depending on whether one is buying or selling! After seeing some ideas on here recently I might be looking for a cheap Vantage and Volante myself
I was in a newsagent this past week and they'd placed on sale some uncollected JBCC back-orders (back-orders are done through the newsagent here) - I bought the TWINE RR (which I had to back-order myself previously) as an investment as I've been seeing climbing prices for this one on eBay recently. Also going were the DAF Cadillac Hearse (already have 2, 1 to be sold on down the line), the OP Range Rover and the DAD Hovercraft.
I can't remember whether it's been mentioned on here before, but with a bit more time on my hands during this holiday season I have been visiting websites that I only get to occasionally - in this case ModelCarWorld (Germany) where I found the following news listed under November 2012 announcements:
IXO 1:43, Land Rover Discovery 4 schwarz 2010
IXO 1:43, Land Rover Discovery 4 Silber 2010
IXO 1:43, Land Rover Discovery 4 Surrey UK Police / Polizei, weiß 2010
IXO 1:43, Land Rover Discovery 4 2010 Dublin Flughafenfeuerwehr, Airport Fire Service Rescue 2010
There is our original Issue 134, I reckon
Well there you go the evidence that 135 was in fact going to be a discovery 4
Eaglemoss what have you done ? I think you have short changed every subscriber !!
This collection evidently lost its way 100 - 120 but with recent issues momentum was growing again . This could have ran a lot longer. I for one am disappointed.
A honest explanation would be welcome. I think this must be a first for a successful part work to be pulled at the peak of the genre it represents . 50 th anniversary , new film with record breaking box office, three more films in the pipeline. All free PR !!!
I want to hear from the suit who thought I know lets pull the plug on this successful collection and start a new part work that will appeal to a minority of people and even then only for the short term as after that the issues will be clutching at straws .
I can't remember whether it's been mentioned on here before, but with a bit more time on my hands during this holiday season I have been visiting websites that I only get to occasionally - in this case ModelCarWorld (Germany) where I found the following news listed under November 2012 announcements:
IXO 1:43, Land Rover Discovery 4 schwarz 2010
IXO 1:43, Land Rover Discovery 4 Silber 2010
IXO 1:43, Land Rover Discovery 4 Surrey UK Police / Polizei, weiß 2010
IXO 1:43, Land Rover Discovery 4 2010 Dublin Flughafenfeuerwehr, Airport Fire Service Rescue 2010
There is our original Issue 134, I reckon
As I said, Ixo was supposed to go to Issue 145 before talks broke down. If they developed the Land Rover Discovery 4, then I'm wondering how far along the '64 Lincoln Continental Convertible is (especially given that some of the parts we saw fitted to the front of the '64 Continental Lehmann-Peterson Limousine were supposedly developed for it...although who knows; they may re-work it into the regular luxury sedan), and just what their 1970's Rolls-Royce will turn out to be. It also makes you wonder what Issues 136-145 would have been, assuming Ixo started work on the moulds.
Sad to see last single payment taken for #134 it's been a long journey.. still it had to end at some point.. so after 5 years it finally happened... -{ :007)
Sad to see last single payment taken for #134 it's been a long journey.. still it had to end at some point.. so after 5 years it finally happened... -{ :007)
After the clear success of the JBCC and the enduring interest in all things 'Bond' I doubt we've seen the last of this series. Given a couple more Bond movies and a more competent business management team in charge, there could be a re-launch of the JBCC with some new additions tacked on the end. If Emoss can't handle it, there must be other partwork companies who would like to take it over and make lots of money out of a future new generation of Bond and car nuts.
It also makes you wonder what Issues 136-145 would have been, assuming Ixo started work on the moulds.
I reckon you are probably the best person to answer that one, Dalko! But I'd throw in the UAZ almost for sure, and probably more US classic tin like the Savoy and the two big Fords. Pepper's car maybe? A Skyfall Audi? More Mercs? 8-)
Ok here is the Audi 200 as we should have got. Number plates still need to
be changed. This is the Neo version correct colour etc etc. I owned an Audi and this looks amazing. The UH Audi is more like a rarer Audi 90
Love it. Correcting some of the mistakes made in the JBCC, filling in some of the blanks and suggesting simple additions is definitely the way to go.
BTW on licence plates - if you are intending to keep the model for any length of time, I'd avoid double sided tape because eventually it will break down into oil, dry out and stain any paper yellow, like old selotape. What I've done is to use photograph 'spray mount' aerosol glue, either sprayed directly onto the paper or you can spray some into the cap then brush it onto the paper. This type of glue allows a few seconds to adjust the plate until it's straight and once it's dry, it doesn't stain. It can also be removed very easily using lighter fluid or a dab of white spirit. Spray mount is available from hobby shops/stores.
Thanks to both Dalkowski110 and Maz for their informed comments re: Spot-on and Minic versus Corgi/Dinky/Matchbox. It cements my thoughts on the distribution and availability etc of the various models. I'm with Maz thinking of those simpler times and the nostalgia that brings. I love the artwork on 1950's/1960's models' boxes in much the same way I love the artwork of the comics from the same period. As example Batman 1950'/60's versus Batman today. The 1950's/60's artwork very soft and colourful and now all dark/dismal/nightmarish. Happy New Year everyone.
I was lucky enough to be a small kid back in the mid 60's so I saw for myself these companies at the very pinnacle of their success and fame if it can be described that way. Every town in the UK had its own independent toy shop and without fail, certainly in the London area, the primary display was always Corgi. They had big point of sale display boards, big glass model displays often with rotating glass shelves carrying Corgi models, brightly lit and very hot! They backed this up with very strong advertising in comics at the time, especially TV21 which was linked to the Gerry Anderson phenomena, so they really knew how to attract the kids. Dinky on the other hand seemed to be far more staid (until they launched FAB 1) mostly tucked away with Matchbox in toy shops and their advertising seemed to be in the likes of Eagle or Meccano Magazine which really weren't that 'cool' amongst kids of the time. 'Spot On' was hardly known about. I remember one kid bringing the Zodiac with working lights to school and amazing us all with it, because we'd never seen anything like it before or even heard of Spot On, at a time when we all knew Corgi, Dinky and Matchbox. I remember asking my parents for this particular toy car for Christmas but they couldn't find it anywhere (and we're talking London!) so Spot On was not only expensive but incredibly rare in the south of the UK. Likewise, in the mid 60's 'Minic' was only known as a name for little Matchbox size Scalextric type cars, I think the other 'Minics' were of an earlier time.
BTW on licence plates - if you are intending to keep the model for any length of time, I'd avoid double sided tape because eventually it will break down into oil, dry out and stain any paper yellow, like old selotape.
Very true, but it won't permanently alter the model and if it does stain the existing plate, you can get it off with a bit of water (just make sure to dry it off quickly!). Hence why I have spare plates made up.
I reckon you are probably the best person to answer that one, Dalko! But I'd throw in the UAZ almost for sure, and probably more US classic tin like the Savoy and the two big Fords. Pepper's car maybe? A Skyfall Audi? More Mercs?
My best guesses as to 136-145, in order of probability and explanations as to why I believe what I do...
1) UAZ-469B, GE. The UAZ-31512 and UAZ-469B are both shown in the film. You can actually tell the difference, although it's tough: look for leaf spring suspensions on the UAZ-469B's. Ixo would not have to alter the existing mould at all and would also provide a vehicle we saw a TON of.
2) Land Rover Defender 110, SF. It was a pretty darn memorable vehicle, and likely the second most memorable from the entire film. Probably battle-damaged.
3) Jaguar XJ-L, SF. Considering it had the third-biggest role in SF, I fail to see how they could have avoided making this one. I think that UH would have made the DB5, while Ixo would have done the Discovery 4, the aforementioned Defender 110, and this.
4) 1971 Ford Thunderbird Landau Coupe, DAF. This was Wint and Kidd's car if you'll recall, with Bond getting dumped in the trunk. Interestingly, Ixo WAS planning on releasing this last year and then suddenly delayed the model without explanation. I'd forgotten they had this one planned at all, but there ya go. Its number in Premium X Resin is PR0061. Many of these moulds were delayed because they were reworked into diecast cars, but this one surprisingly disappeared altogether. I'm guessing we see a comeback, however.
5) 1971 Ford Custom 500 Clark County Sheriff's Car, DAF. Ixo has had this one dormant for a while in the form of the 1971 Ford Galaxie. It may have been cancelled, though, since they're doing the Brazilian 1967 Ford Galaxie, which is the American '66 Galaxie and will undoubtedly show up in the Premium X Diecast range. The car played a large enough role in the film chasing the Mustang Mach I and we were starting to get the chase cars.
6) Ford Escort Mk. I Rally Car, OHMSS. Because they had the moulds and because the car was pretty memorable, if only for crashing.
7) Jeep CJ-7, LTK. Also involved in the tractor-trailer chase and got some screen time, although not as much as the Dodge Ram. However, Ixo already made this one and did a fair job, too. They had the moulds in existence for it.
8) Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow Mulliner-Park Ward Drophead Coupe, OHMSS. If they could and were going to do a 1970's Rolls-Royce, they could do this one. They'd have to start from the ground up, probably, but on the other hand, the car played a very memorable role and if they had the licensing to do one Rolls-Royce (to say nothing of the models planned for Ixo Classic and Ixo Museum), they probably have the licensing to do others.
9) Kenworth W-900 Cab, LTK. Because it played such a big role. Ixo has shown they're capable of doing 1/43 scale trucks and also adequate packaging. They could also probably market it with a trailer or six outside of the JBCC.
10) 1961 Chevrolet Impala Sport Sedan, DN. Continuing with chase cars, late fifties-early sixties American cars, and cars that would fit extremely well with the Premium X Diecast Range. Although I don't have anything to support Ixo doing one of these, it just fits really well with what they seemed to be doing.
And that's out to 145, although I did so in terms of probability of seeing the model rather than anything else.
That would have been such a great set of ten further models, wouldn't it? It also shows how much further a partwork company that knows how to deal professionally with a company like Ixo could take the series. Emoss should hang their hair-gelled heads in shame.
As a 60s kid I remember those toy shops 10bob notes given on special occasions and the struggle to choose! Newsagents usually stocked matchbox which were the most widely available of all. Some stocked smaller firms like Lone Star and budgie if other stores nearby already stocked the big boys.
As far as the bond lists go they really show the gap between what bond fans wanted and what ixo would have provided. Dalko 110s educated guesses would have been great for car centrics but apart from the kenworth would not excite bond collectors specially. Maybe it is time to wrap up the jbcc.
That would have been such a great set of ten further models, wouldn't it? It also shows how much further a partwork company that knows how to deal professionally with a company like Ixo could take the series. Emoss should hang their hair-gelled heads in shame.
Yes. I would have bought the extra 10, no question.
Perhaps Ixo will find another way of making the Bond Discovery?
That would have been such a great set of ten further models, wouldn't it? It also shows how much further a partwork company that knows how to deal professionally with a company like Ixo could take the series. Emoss should hang their hair-gelled heads in shame.
Yes. I would have bought the extra 10, no question.
Perhaps Ixo will find another way of making the Bond Discovery?
If anyone ever picks up the partwork again, they'd likely go to Ixo. With that said, when the Surrey Police version is released, I would imagine it would be possible to convert that into the SF Discovery 4.
Perhaps Ixo will find another way of making the Bond Discovery?
If anyone ever picks up the partwork again, they'd likely go to Ixo. With that said, when the Surrey Police version is released, I would imagine it would be possible to convert that into the SF Discovery 4.
I've found a photo of the pre-production of the Ixo LR Discovery 4 - this one is in Wiltshire Police livery, not the Surrey Police as per the information I previously posted (although the photo of the second Disco4 version is the Dublin Airport Fire Service as announced) ... a change of mind somewhere along the way, apparently.
No indication of expected retail pricing as yet but I would expect this to be upper-20s (£) when it reaches the market.
Wishing everyone on this thread a Happy New Year - best wishes for a "lucky 13" 2013 :007) {[]
I would wait a bit before beginning to think of a Disco 4 repaint. London Metropolitan Police is not the most exotic livery for police models so I wouldn't be surprised to see Ixo make one and release them with the next wave. I suspect they have been working on the graphics for the JBCC version before anyway. As Vanguards made Range Rover and Astra Metro Police cars the Discovery would also be a good companion to those and make sense to produce even without the Skyfall link. It is an authentic livery, not just for filming.
I too want to wish all AJB'ers a Happy New Year and a great 2013! I hope our little thread will still be alive in one year's time with lots of code 3's to show and discuss. -{
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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Bradly! By the way, how much Spot-On do have left? Along with Minic, it's easily the most underrated diecast ever to come out of the UK.
Merry Christmas Diecast007! That will be a superb Code 3 once the correct number plates are installed! Do you plan on transfer decals, stickers, or something else?
EDIT: By the way, would you believe the Code 3'd car below has the plates installed with double-stick tape (albeit sized to fit the plate exactly)?
License plate and color (which is factory-supplied) are from a real East German Volvo 164.
I think I will print them and use double sided tape. I like the Volvo my school friend had one of those when I had a 82 Renault 18 we were both 17
I believe it comes in several other colors (notably light blue metallic, plus a US spec model in cream) and is also a Neo model. Going with double-stick tape is a good choice for Neo because of 1) the price point and 2) you don't permanently damage the license plates/can peel it off any time you want.
As for the Renault 18...whimsically nicknamed the "Rolls-Royce din Romania" ("Romanian Rolls-Royce")...it was pretty big to see one there until they got Peugeot 504's to take over the nickname.
Someone bought me the Roger Moore "Bond on Bond" book for Xmas, so perhaps I am veering towards the mid Bond / Car - centric position after all.
I am sure most have seen it, but the Top Gear Bond car special was certainly a watchable programme, even if there were not too many surprises for us lot!
All the best MH
Minic has always been a bit more complex. They started out as a very distinct line of toys also owned by Tri-ang where they featured clockwork motors. However, after WWII, they no longer had the clockwork motors in many cases and were simply the "detail" versions of Spot-On. But as the years went by, Minic had trouble finding a market niche. If you think of it, they'd have had to start competing against Spot-On to actually work. Instead, Tri-ang gambled that they could save them by marketing to older kids instead of throwing their efforts into Spot-On and wound up killing both lines, essentially. Why they did what they did was truly beyond me and frankly baffles quite a few people who've attempted to see through Tri-ang's eyes.
Thanks!!! And to all as well on this forum!
By the way, if you had TEN models you thought were neglected by this collection (as in, not done at all), what would they be? Here's my list...
1) Aston Martin Vantage, no gadgets (TLD).
2) Yellow Moke (TSWLM).
3) UAZ-469B Russian Army 4x4 (GE).
4) Kenworth W-900 Truck Cab (LTK).
5) Land Rover Defender 110, battle-damaged (SF).
6) Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow Mulliner-Park Ward Drophead Coupe (OHMSS).
7) Rolls-Royce Silver Wraith (FRWL)
8) 1971 Ford Custom 500 Clark County Sheriff's Car (DAF)
9) 1961 Chevrolet Impala Sport Sedan (DN)
10) Jaguar XJ-L Saloon (SF)
I rather suspect collectors brought them even at the beginning given the number of boxed models around and the relatively small sales.
Some of the models were really good and stand up to renovating with better wheels and some are toy like due to the strange way grille and lights are all in one unit with connectors between grille and lights.
All fill me with nostalgia for a much simpler time long ago.
Great list dal110
Here is mine
1) AEC Regent LALD
2) Kenworth LTK
3) Jaguar XJ -L SF
4) landrover discovery 4 met police SF
5) Audi A5 SF
6) Volvo V70 met police SF
7) Prisoner transport truck LTK
8) Vanish DAD
9) Ford Mondeo CR
10) NYC ford Taxi CR or was it QOS
Maybe if they had done these it would still be going on?
1. Zorrin's Airship. A View To A Kill.
2. AEC Regent III. Bottom half of the Bus. Live And Let Die.
3. The Kenworth W-900 Cab. Licence To Kill.
4. Moonraker 6 Shuttle. Moonraker.
5. Aston Martin Vanquish - Invisible (Not an empty box as some have called for,but solid clear plastic)
Die Another Day.
6. Ferrari F355 Berlinetta (The yellow car that fell out of the plane at the end of Die Another Day.)
7. Rolls-Royce Phantom II. Octopussy.
8. Lada 1500. Normal,not cut in half. The Living Daylights.
9. Land-Rover Range Rover (Zorrin) A View To A Kill.
10. Jetski and Bond. The Spy Who Loved Me.
Foxtoys made a Verejna Bezpecnost Lada 1500 that is true to real life, albeit not the film. The lettering on the mocked up film cars was the wrong font, the radio antenna was in the wrong place, and the sirens weren't the correct shape. The real cars also had chrome trim (as counterintuitive as that sounds), although the film cars didn't (again, probably because it sounded really counterintuitive). It's NOT a cheap model, though: you'll wind up paying about $75-$100 USD for it, all told.
I would agree about the lights and grille as well as lagging on features compared to Corgi. Sometimes, especially on some of the 1/42 scale trucks, the grille/lights unit actually looks pretty good. However, any car with headlights on stalks was prone to looking a little odd. I was also aware they were poorly-distributed, but not of specifics. Fortunately, Norev has remade some of the better cars (I know you know that Maz, but in case anyone else was wondering) so you don't have to dump several hundred USD for one in good shape. As for boxed models, I thought that was due to a "cache" of NOS being found and sold (a bit like when Madison Hardware blew out their Dinky stock going back to the early 1950's after a fire in 1977, I think [would have to ask Dad, as he was the one that bought tons of them at a greatly reduced price])?
Back to bond now. Went to bid toyfair yesterday and a lot less bond on tables and no 5 pound clearance tables either. Prices for what was on show 7 pounds and upwards. Guess once it is over and back orders closed down prices for best issues will gradually rise.
Despite being occasionally tempted by a Matchbox RS2000 here or a Corgi CCBB there, the only toy car I previously owned that I have bought again in recent years is the Corgi Kojak Buick - a very playworn one that I got very cheaply, for a restoration project that has yet to start! Having the resource of IMCDb available nowadays, one can see that Corgi didn't get it quite right with this model as they have modelled (what appears to me to be) some hybrid of a Regal 2dr and a Century sedan. DB110 mentioned this car recently when ideas for a new partwork were being discussed.
Good and bad news, I suppose, depending on whether one is buying or selling! After seeing some ideas on here recently I might be looking for a cheap Vantage and Volante myself
I was in a newsagent this past week and they'd placed on sale some uncollected JBCC back-orders (back-orders are done through the newsagent here) - I bought the TWINE RR (which I had to back-order myself previously) as an investment as I've been seeing climbing prices for this one on eBay recently. Also going were the DAF Cadillac Hearse (already have 2, 1 to be sold on down the line), the OP Range Rover and the DAD Hovercraft.
I can't remember whether it's been mentioned on here before, but with a bit more time on my hands during this holiday season I have been visiting websites that I only get to occasionally - in this case ModelCarWorld (Germany) where I found the following news listed under November 2012 announcements:
IXO 1:43, Land Rover Discovery 4 schwarz 2010
IXO 1:43, Land Rover Discovery 4 Silber 2010
IXO 1:43, Land Rover Discovery 4 Surrey UK Police / Polizei, weiß 2010
IXO 1:43, Land Rover Discovery 4 2010 Dublin Flughafenfeuerwehr, Airport Fire Service Rescue 2010
There is our original Issue 134, I reckon
Eaglemoss what have you done ? I think you have short changed every subscriber !!
This collection evidently lost its way 100 - 120 but with recent issues momentum was growing again . This could have ran a lot longer. I for one am disappointed.
A honest explanation would be welcome. I think this must be a first for a successful part work to be pulled at the peak of the genre it represents . 50 th anniversary , new film with record breaking box office, three more films in the pipeline. All free PR !!!
I want to hear from the suit who thought I know lets pull the plug on this successful collection and start a new part work that will appeal to a minority of people and even then only for the short term as after that the issues will be clutching at straws .
Climbs down from soap box again lol
As I said, Ixo was supposed to go to Issue 145 before talks broke down. If they developed the Land Rover Discovery 4, then I'm wondering how far along the '64 Lincoln Continental Convertible is (especially given that some of the parts we saw fitted to the front of the '64 Continental Lehmann-Peterson Limousine were supposedly developed for it...although who knows; they may re-work it into the regular luxury sedan), and just what their 1970's Rolls-Royce will turn out to be. It also makes you wonder what Issues 136-145 would have been, assuming Ixo started work on the moulds.
After the clear success of the JBCC and the enduring interest in all things 'Bond' I doubt we've seen the last of this series. Given a couple more Bond movies and a more competent business management team in charge, there could be a re-launch of the JBCC with some new additions tacked on the end. If Emoss can't handle it, there must be other partwork companies who would like to take it over and make lots of money out of a future new generation of Bond and car nuts.
I reckon you are probably the best person to answer that one, Dalko! But I'd throw in the UAZ almost for sure, and probably more US classic tin like the Savoy and the two big Fords. Pepper's car maybe? A Skyfall Audi? More Mercs? 8-)
Love it.
BTW on licence plates - if you are intending to keep the model for any length of time, I'd avoid double sided tape because eventually it will break down into oil, dry out and stain any paper yellow, like old selotape. What I've done is to use photograph 'spray mount' aerosol glue, either sprayed directly onto the paper or you can spray some into the cap then brush it onto the paper. This type of glue allows a few seconds to adjust the plate until it's straight and once it's dry, it doesn't stain. It can also be removed very easily using lighter fluid or a dab of white spirit. Spray mount is available from hobby shops/stores.
I was lucky enough to be a small kid back in the mid 60's so I saw for myself these companies at the very pinnacle of their success and fame if it can be described that way. Every town in the UK had its own independent toy shop and without fail, certainly in the London area, the primary display was always Corgi. They had big point of sale display boards, big glass model displays often with rotating glass shelves carrying Corgi models, brightly lit and very hot! They backed this up with very strong advertising in comics at the time, especially TV21 which was linked to the Gerry Anderson phenomena, so they really knew how to attract the kids. Dinky on the other hand seemed to be far more staid (until they launched FAB 1) mostly tucked away with Matchbox in toy shops and their advertising seemed to be in the likes of Eagle or Meccano Magazine which really weren't that 'cool' amongst kids of the time. 'Spot On' was hardly known about. I remember one kid bringing the Zodiac with working lights to school and amazing us all with it, because we'd never seen anything like it before or even heard of Spot On, at a time when we all knew Corgi, Dinky and Matchbox. I remember asking my parents for this particular toy car for Christmas but they couldn't find it anywhere (and we're talking London!) so Spot On was not only expensive but incredibly rare in the south of the UK. Likewise, in the mid 60's 'Minic' was only known as a name for little Matchbox size Scalextric type cars, I think the other 'Minics' were of an earlier time.
Very true, but it won't permanently alter the model and if it does stain the existing plate, you can get it off with a bit of water (just make sure to dry it off quickly!). Hence why I have spare plates made up.
My best guesses as to 136-145, in order of probability and explanations as to why I believe what I do...
1) UAZ-469B, GE. The UAZ-31512 and UAZ-469B are both shown in the film. You can actually tell the difference, although it's tough: look for leaf spring suspensions on the UAZ-469B's. Ixo would not have to alter the existing mould at all and would also provide a vehicle we saw a TON of.
2) Land Rover Defender 110, SF. It was a pretty darn memorable vehicle, and likely the second most memorable from the entire film. Probably battle-damaged.
3) Jaguar XJ-L, SF. Considering it had the third-biggest role in SF, I fail to see how they could have avoided making this one. I think that UH would have made the DB5, while Ixo would have done the Discovery 4, the aforementioned Defender 110, and this.
4) 1971 Ford Thunderbird Landau Coupe, DAF. This was Wint and Kidd's car if you'll recall, with Bond getting dumped in the trunk. Interestingly, Ixo WAS planning on releasing this last year and then suddenly delayed the model without explanation. I'd forgotten they had this one planned at all, but there ya go. Its number in Premium X Resin is PR0061. Many of these moulds were delayed because they were reworked into diecast cars, but this one surprisingly disappeared altogether. I'm guessing we see a comeback, however.
5) 1971 Ford Custom 500 Clark County Sheriff's Car, DAF. Ixo has had this one dormant for a while in the form of the 1971 Ford Galaxie. It may have been cancelled, though, since they're doing the Brazilian 1967 Ford Galaxie, which is the American '66 Galaxie and will undoubtedly show up in the Premium X Diecast range. The car played a large enough role in the film chasing the Mustang Mach I and we were starting to get the chase cars.
6) Ford Escort Mk. I Rally Car, OHMSS. Because they had the moulds and because the car was pretty memorable, if only for crashing.
7) Jeep CJ-7, LTK. Also involved in the tractor-trailer chase and got some screen time, although not as much as the Dodge Ram. However, Ixo already made this one and did a fair job, too. They had the moulds in existence for it.
8) Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow Mulliner-Park Ward Drophead Coupe, OHMSS. If they could and were going to do a 1970's Rolls-Royce, they could do this one. They'd have to start from the ground up, probably, but on the other hand, the car played a very memorable role and if they had the licensing to do one Rolls-Royce (to say nothing of the models planned for Ixo Classic and Ixo Museum), they probably have the licensing to do others.
9) Kenworth W-900 Cab, LTK. Because it played such a big role. Ixo has shown they're capable of doing 1/43 scale trucks and also adequate packaging. They could also probably market it with a trailer or six outside of the JBCC.
10) 1961 Chevrolet Impala Sport Sedan, DN. Continuing with chase cars, late fifties-early sixties American cars, and cars that would fit extremely well with the Premium X Diecast Range. Although I don't have anything to support Ixo doing one of these, it just fits really well with what they seemed to be doing.
And that's out to 145, although I did so in terms of probability of seeing the model rather than anything else.
As far as the bond lists go they really show the gap between what bond fans wanted and what ixo would have provided. Dalko 110s educated guesses would have been great for car centrics but apart from the kenworth would not excite bond collectors specially. Maybe it is time to wrap up the jbcc.
Yes. I would have bought the extra 10, no question.
Perhaps Ixo will find another way of making the Bond Discovery?
If anyone ever picks up the partwork again, they'd likely go to Ixo. With that said, when the Surrey Police version is released, I would imagine it would be possible to convert that into the SF Discovery 4.
I've found a photo of the pre-production of the Ixo LR Discovery 4 - this one is in Wiltshire Police livery, not the Surrey Police as per the information I previously posted (although the photo of the second Disco4 version is the Dublin Airport Fire Service as announced) ... a change of mind somewhere along the way, apparently.
No indication of expected retail pricing as yet but I would expect this to be upper-20s (£) when it reaches the market.
Wishing everyone on this thread a Happy New Year - best wishes for a "lucky 13" 2013 :007) {[]
I too want to wish all AJB'ers a Happy New Year and a great 2013! I hope our little thread will still be alive in one year's time with lots of code 3's to show and discuss. -{