James Bond Car Collection - Questions and praise

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  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    FACT wrote:
    If anyone's keen on an obscure Code 3, Oxford Diecast recently released a 1/43 1950s Humber Pullman:
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    That could conceivably be reworked into the hearse that really went over the cliff in Dr. No
    http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_555922-Humber-Super-Snipe-Mk-III-1951.html
    I'm not saying it will be straightforward, though!
    Converting this into a hearse would be some serious modelling - I guess I'll leave that for now ... ;)

    Something like this is more within my capabilities: A Neo Opel Senator B in dark red just like the goon car in the TND Hamburg car park scene with the BMW 750. The colour is the MCW exclusive, just needs the different plates (HH-F 7283).
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    http://www.modelcarworld.de/relaunch/shopartic.php?f=NR&c=169437&language=uk

    http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_4215-Opel-Senator-1988.html



    And DC007, that bus is terrific! {[] Such an ugly rustbucket! :D
    Is the box from the Dodge laser ambulance? I just would add the second headlight, it looks a bit strange without (and I've checked, in the film it still has both headlights after losing the roof). What a superb addition with the figures, background and weathering.

    Thanks for your praise, well spotted I knew there was something missing . The third headlight is sitting waiting to go back on . Yes this is the dodge ambulance box.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    I got to thinking: I'm wondering who buys up the rights to the partwork from Eaglemoss. Not necessarily for immediate release/continuation, but maybe as a continuation series once some other partwork dies down. Altaya usually steers clear of such things, but Atlas and DeAgostini certainly have done licensed partworks in the past and both are on good terms with Ixo. Since Eaglemoss basically shot its bolt and the value of the partwork rights will likely drop until the release of the next Bond film, I wonder if one of those two firms picks it up and markets it with whatever new Bond film is released.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • bradly054bradly054 Posts: 10MI6 Agent
    Received my RR Silver Shadow today also and the mag leaves us in absolute no doubt this is the last issue. I too have puchased the first Batmobile by Eaglemoss from WHS. After all the if's buts and maybe's of the Bond collection and seven years of my life if I maybe tempted by this Batman collection I only have to look at the backing card to which the model is attached and read "Collect 70 years of Batmobiles" Now if this also includes all the villains cars, trucks, helicopters and you name it, this could mean that 'loadsa' models would be produced (each Batman comic was issued by DC at the rate of 1 per month so there are lots of story lines and villains there over 70 years). Then get really deep and add villains etc from " Detective Comics" in which Batman also featured and you could truly end up with a collection that never ends. I honestly can't envisage that sort of collection but as we experienced with JBCC you never have a clue as to what(and how many) models will be produced. I don't think my pocket could stand it, let alone my marriage!!!
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
    As far as rights to produce a jbcc are concerned it all surely depends on how eon licensed fabbri/eaglemoss. I would be surprised if eaglemoss have any rights they can sell beyond the name of the collection. So I would not be surprised if someone gets rights to do cars etc in some series connected to next film as you say.
  • TaylorTaylor Posts: 30MI6 Agent
    Be glad if someone would post some photo's of the Moonraker Roller,I won't get mine till Wed. :( As for the B.M.V.C. as it's already been labeled it's already been confirmed they are doing 80 to kick off with. If it goes on from there I guess depends on how well it sells,but yes I agree if they can get away with it then they will out do Bond and everything else. It could run to 1,000's as they will be doing other things like Bat Copters,Bat Bikes and a never ending series of Police cars not to mention all the villains cars. Good luck to the folks with that one,but it's not for me, I've served my time :)) Oh BTW if anyone wants a full set of the whole JBCC collection there is one on Ebay now for just under £600 delivered. That's the way to do it. :))
  • yourmovemrbondyourmovemrbond Posts: 61MI6 Agent
    Someone told me a couple of years ago that these licencing rights are on-running and renewable every 8 issues of a partwork and i believe, as previous posying state, that they hold no rights to sell on.....they just hold temporarily the rights to copy..........new deals will have to be struck!!

    as far as i can find out the batmobiles are planned for 40..........but we all know what other series was planned for 40 dont we? other recent partworks planned for under 50 issues included "lord of the rings collectors models" which ended at 180......."dc figures" ( ended at 120) " tractors and the world of farming" and " combat tank collection", both still going strong at issue 106........and the " classic marvel figurine collection" still going strong at issue 192

    none of these has the loyal customer base of the Bond cars, which makes it still unbelievable that the boardroom breakdown has gotten in the way of making money!!! very odd!!

    i bow down to the greater knowledge of some of the contributors to this forum but i find it hard to reconcile that the fallout between eaglemoss and ixo could have been allowed to get so serious as to get in the way of the simple task of moving units.........can we believe that a company as large as eaglemoss will not use IXO again?........if differences can be sorted out in future, as they inevitably will, why couldn't they have been sorted out to finish this Bond series..........its unforgivable, and once again, we, the collectors suffer.........but i suppose i should be happy with the models i have got rather than moan about the ones i didnt get?
    c-est la vie!

    I also take this opportunity to wish all readers of the forum a very happy new year
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    Don't think I'll be Code 3'ing the car, but I sure will eventually be getting it! Thanks!
    AFAIR the next colourway will be black over grey, and the following one will be overall black. Neither of these should have logos - this first one represents the one owned by Baroness Rothschild and that's the family crest on the doors.

    Taylor, this auction has pictures of the Issue 34 Roller - it's been available from Hong Kong sellers since early October last year:
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170926332968

    ymmb, on the Facebook page for the Batman partwork the admin's have confirmed that the planned series is 80 issues (it has put some people off, so they are emphasising that one can unsubscribe at any time) and that it can/will contain other vehicles of interest from the Batman series (i.e. police cars, etc.). Ugh, and so it starts ... Just glad I've never really been keen on Batman so they won't hook me with this one :))

    I still cannot believe the fizzle with which our series has ended. With the 1/12 DB5 the subscribers received an additional issue (#86) at the end with a free car cover ... after 134 issues we get "OK, it's over, goodbye". Well goodbye to you as well, Eaglemoss X-(
  • bradly054bradly054 Posts: 10MI6 Agent
    With reference to the link to Ebay posted by FACT today relating to the RR Silver Shadow No.134 I notice there is paint loss above the wheels. That is also the same on my model arrived today. Is this a fault or deliberate. I know you guys will know. Thanks in advance.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited January 2013
    maz wrote:
    As far as rights to produce a jbcc are concerned it all surely depends on how eon licensed fabbri/eaglemoss. I would be surprised if eaglemoss have any rights they can sell beyond the name of the collection. So I would not be surprised if someone gets rights to do cars etc in some series connected to next film as you say.

    Thing is, as Rainier Wolfcastle showed us with the GF DB5, they HAVE been licensing their brandname and cars to Atlas as a test issue that doesn't seem to going anywhere. Of course, Atlas is majority-owned by DeAgostini, but Eaglemoss does have a minority ownership. Perhaps the test issue is to gauge interest for a future partwork?
    FACT wrote:
    and the following one will be overall black.

    I think I'll try for that one.
    can we believe that a company as large as eaglemoss will not use IXO again?

    They will, just not for Bond. Since they have stakes in Altaya and Atlas, they have no choice.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    On the subject of Batmobiles, for anybody interested in how many there were, check this out:

    http://www.autoblog.com/photos/the-history-of-the-batmobile/full/#3749576

    When you include all of the associated 'villain' and police vehicles, bikes, planes, skateboards, whatever, yes the series could run to a great, great many :s
  • TaylorTaylor Posts: 30MI6 Agent
    Yes I've seen the Moonraker Roller on Ebay for months but as you know the finished product can look a little different when it comes out so I am still hoping one of you folks will post a picture (We never got to see one of the Lincoln) and as this will be the last time we ever get the chance to do this it seems only right I think. To bad about Skyfall they could have done another 20 from that alone,not to mention Six Moonraker Shuttles or even the Cello case from The Living Daylights :p
  • cris_19010689cris_19010689 Posts: 138MI6 Agent
    Taylor wrote:
    Yes I've seen the Moonraker Roller on Ebay for months but as you know the finished product can look a little different when it comes out so I am still hoping one of you folks will post a picture (We never got to see one of the Lincoln) and as this will be the last time we ever get the chance to do this it seems only right I think. To bad about Skyfall they could have done another 20 from that alone,not to mention Six Moonraker Shuttles or even the Cello case from The Living Daylights :p

    which other issue number - the "lincoln" would you like a photo of?
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  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited January 2013
    MovieCarFan, NO Batmobile collection will EVER be complete without this car...

    http://jalopnik.com/5552711/this-is-the-worlds-worst-batmobile

    EDIT: Ha! My thousandth post on this, a James Bond forum is dedicated to the World's Worst Batmobile (and that's actually what it's called: the World's Worst Batmobile, capitalized!). By the way, the car is literally so infamously bad that it was actually stolen (and then recovered)! Unfortunately, it was subsequently damaged, but last I heard, the guy was restoring it.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • TaylorTaylor Posts: 30MI6 Agent
    Taylor wrote:
    Yes I've seen the Moonraker Roller on Ebay for months but as you know the finished product can look a little different when it comes out so I am still hoping one of you folks will post a picture (We never got to see one of the Lincoln) and as this will be the last time we ever get the chance to do this it seems only right I think. To bad about Skyfall they could have done another 20 from that alone,not to mention Six Moonraker Shuttles or even the Cello case from The Living Daylights :p

    which other issue number - the "lincoln" would you like a photo of?
    DSC_4336.jpg

    Thanks. :) Very nice,glad I've got 2 coming now on Wednesday and despite what others have said a nice one to finish on. Wish this series had done all the rollers instead of so many police cars,ah well maybe in series 2? {[]
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    Diecast007 wrote:
    On ebay today

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    I thought it was strange you all missed this earlier post . I posted this on New Years Day.

    I echo all of the above, we the subscribers have been let down by Eaglemoss, cheated at the expense of an incomplete collection. No additional specials, no binders, just taken for granted.

    The batman collection is overpriced and beyond the few stand out Batmobiles I cant see many buying into a collection of lets be honest cartoon cars, 40 is stretching the genre but 80 !!. At least the bond collection is a represntation of real vehicles featured in movies over the last fifty years. What demographic is the batmobile collection aimed at ?

    The bond collection was attractive to the bond fan, the car fan and the diecast collector. Like MCF i have no interest in the comic cars and even the real cars will be odd as they featured in a comic if that makes sense.

    Similarly lledo produced a set of 'Carry on' film cars. This was a popular british series of comedy films through the 50's - 70's. The model cars were stock models with a 'Carry On' logo applied to the side presented in a 'Carry on' logo box. Absolutely dreadful . Also Corgi produced a set of Vans with liveries of various comics. Again dreadful as the the vehicle did not exist as was presented, I believe both ranges were very poor sellers! I think the batmobile range will fall to the same fate as how many people would want a collection of cars based on vehicles from comics ???

    This is where the bond collection scored highly as it had appeal beyond the films and individually each model could stand alone and be of interest to others the car and diecast collector , the code 3'er and so on.

    I suggest we all email a complaint to Eaglemoss and demand an explanation why we have been short changed.
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    On the subject of Batmobiles, for anybody interested in how many there were, check this out:

    http://www.autoblog.com/photos/the-history-of-the-batmobile/full/#3749576

    When you include all of the associated 'villain' and police vehicles, bikes, planes, skateboards, whatever, yes the series could run to a great, great many :s

    Just looked at the link, Most of them are awful even the ones based on real cars ! There is only one Batmobile and that is the one we all Know and love and modelled brilliantly by Corgi
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    On the subject of Batmobiles, for anybody interested in how many there were, check this out:
    http://www.autoblog.com/photos/the-history-of-the-batmobile/full/#3749576
    When you include all of the associated 'villain' and police vehicles, bikes, planes, skateboards, whatever, yes the series could run to a great, great many :s
    Thanks for this. Just shows why EM took on this series in the first place. IF it does have market demand for an 80 issue run that's sees the collection run into early-2016 at 25/26 issues per year ... anyone keen for another 3-year ride? 8-)
    Taylor wrote:
    Yes I've seen the Moonraker Roller on Ebay for months but as you know the finished product can look a little different when it comes out ....
    The only change over this whole series I can remember from what HK sellers showed compared to what collectors got concerned the Ixo-sourced Bronco which the HK sellers had as a loose model without weathering. With all the Universal Hobbies models, what they got is what we got ... although in some cases they had the model facing the wrong direction in the diorama (I think it was DB110 who said these sellers would get the parts separately from their contacts at the factory and assemble them themselves, leading to the occasional reversal, such as the Silver Cloud heading OUT of the lake instead of into it!)
    Diecast007 wrote:
    Similarly lledo produced a set of 'Carry on' film cars. This was a popular british series of comedy films through the 50's - 70's. The model cars were stock models with a 'Carry On' logo applied to the side presented in a 'Carry on' logo box. Absolutely dreadful . Also Corgi produced a set of Vans with liveries of various comics. Again dreadful as the the vehicle did not exist as was presented, I believe both ranges were very poor sellers! I think the batmobile range will fall to the same fate as how many people would want a collection of cars based on vehicles from comics ???
    I agree. I tend to buy any Corgi Classics model from the 80s or 90s when price and wallet are in alignment, but have always passed over those Minnie the Minx & Dennis the Menace variants. I loved the comics when I was a kid, but as a model, no thanks.
    Perhaps they were meant to appeal to the Matchbox MOY & Lledo DG collectors who try to assemble the brands of their youth on a collection of model vans.
    Incidentally, Corgi has ceased producing the DG van range (except for occasions like the Jubilee) and small vans are even on hold in the Vanguards range - when I enquired about this last year (2012) they said there was insufficient market demand (they are a company which actually DOES interact with their customers!).
  • Diecast007Diecast007 Posts: 576MI6 Agent
    Well said 'FACT' !

    Right fellow JBCC fans I have the code 3 bug . Any suggestions ?
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Diecast007 wrote:
    Well said 'FACT' !

    Right fellow JBCC fans I have the code 3 bug . Any suggestions ?

    I'd say the Yellow Moke if you've got an extra LALD version. I'd love to see that. The background shouldn't be too hard to make either, seeing as it appeared in multiple films. Ditto the UAZ-469B, which appeared in literally every Brosnan film. You could do the one that Gupta uses as a getaway vehicle in TND since you wouldn't have to modify the model save the plates and you'd only need a Gupta figure driving it. The background and scorched earth he's driving over would also be pretty neat.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
    Interesting discussions. Eaglemoss are a multinational and if you look at their German site the Opel Collection is still going and I am pretty sure that is IXO sourced. As Dalko says they have no choice but to deal with IXO and/or UH if they want certain types of models since there are not that many other firms with capacity to produce models for part works.

    Atlas Bond re-releases are just a way to dump stock I think cant see if ever being serious collection or having new releases. If existing models can probably be sold under current contract with EON.

    FYI the DeAgostini tanks collection started out at 60 and then they decided to incorporate stuff from the Panzer Collection they had run in Europe and that will finish at 120 or so supplier says. I subscribe so I can get models for a Canadian friend and must say that even if DeAgostini call centre is in South Africa and line poor the service I get when stuff is lost and broken - yes it happens to all these collections - has been good. The models have wandered from the "tank" theme a bit but they are all really nicely made and finished and if you like military stuff very good value. Much more consistent than JBCC.

    I am really not sure that Eaglemoss have studied the market dynamics for the Batman models in the UK correctly. There is a relatively small following for comics in the UK compared to US and Batman has always seemed less popular as far as I can see than Marvel Comics heroes such as Spiderman etc here. Many serious comic lovers will not collect models anyway they are too busy chasing rare editions of the comic. The comic cars are really visual fodder and when Corgi did them there were few takers evn though they got them into the comic shops and mass market stores. Apart from that there are people of an age to remember and love the original TV Batman who may buy the vehicles made by Corgi at the time again like Batmobile, Batboat etc. but will get bored once they have them. And there are fans of the new Movie Franchise who are often too young to care about old comics or TV shows and will similarly only want to buy the new classic batmobiles. The test will be what turns up on EBay and whether they sell at a premium or not and whether they ares old dear or cheap at Toy Fairs. Although this has potential to produce 100's of vehicles I am just not convinced there will be lots of subscribers.

    Back to JBC - Diecast that bus is brilliant. Just shows what could have been done though I think to cut costs JBCC would have had it after going under bridge.

    Happy New Year and may you all find lots of things to collect after the JBCC ends.
  • ArronaxArronax Florida, USAPosts: 45MI6 Agent
    Diecast007 wrote:
    Just looked at the link, Most of them are awful even the ones based on real cars ! There is only one Batmobile and that is the one we all Know and love and modelled brilliantly by Corgi

    Which, nice as it was, is very inaccurate.
  • pjfthompsonpjfthompson Posts: 61MI6 Agent
    does some one have a list of the james bond car collection listed by films thanks
    paul
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Arronax wrote:
    Diecast007 wrote:
    Just looked at the link, Most of them are awful even the ones based on real cars ! There is only one Batmobile and that is the one we all Know and love and modelled brilliantly by Corgi

    Which, nice as it was, is very inaccurate.

    The Corgi (TV) version had a charm all of its own, especially with the little figures and the 'working flame' from the rocket exhaust. The first issue has been in my possession ever since childhood, and is still much coveted!
    I seem to remember reading somewhere that some guy in the States held the copyright licence to the TV Batmobile for many years and wouldn't let anyone model the car afresh without paying a truly extortionate fee, hence the Corgi version being almost the only die-cast one available for so long. I now have the recent Hot Wheels 1.18 and 1.43 'Elite' versions which are probably the best and most accurately modelled I've seen so far - certainly on a par with Minichamps. For 1.43 collectors I'd say grab one if you can find it.


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  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    MovieCarFan, NO Batmobile collection will EVER be complete without this car...

    http://jalopnik.com/5552711/this-is-the-worlds-worst-batmobile

    EDIT: Ha! My thousandth post on this, a James Bond forum is dedicated to the World's Worst Batmobile (and that's actually what it's called: the World's Worst Batmobile, capitalized!). By the way, the car is literally so infamously bad that it was actually stolen (and then recovered)! Unfortunately, it was subsequently damaged, but last I heard, the guy was restoring it.

    Congratulations on your 1000th!! {[] Is that a personal best or have you beaten it on another forum?

    Love the World's Worst Batmobile - did the thief give it back??!!
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    edited January 2013
    Regarding future Code3s, I'd say whatever rocks your boat really. At some point I'm going to re-watch my Bond DVDs and make a few mental notes of possibilities.
    I think with the end of the series, anybody can now have a go at anything (major vehicle, background vehicle, boat, plane, cello case) as long as it's been in a Bond movie and is as close to 1.43 as possible.
    The one I currently have a real 'itching' for is a battered Skyfall Defender Double-Cab, but it would be nice if some kindly die-cast model company would make a basic one in 1.43 scale first!
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Love the World's Worst Batmobile - did the thief give it back??!!

    He dumped it in a junkyard, but thanks to the folks at Jalopnik, they managed to recover it.
    Is that a personal best or have you beaten it on another forum?

    There's one other, non-Bond, non-car-related forum where I'm a moderator where I have over 2,500 posts. However, I've not posted there in almost a month. Traffic has slowed down. The site's waning, honestly.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • om99om99 Derbyshire UKPosts: 43MI6 Agent
    Wow just been catching up on everything! I haven't been on here in 10 months! 70 pages ago! anyway, a quick question.. I received issue #134 - RR Silver Shadow I. Now, 2 issues normally come each month. But this time I have only one? Is there a reason for this? or a mess up somewhere? Has this Collection ended? Many thanks, om99
  • JagJag Posts: 1,167MI6 Agent
    FACT wrote:
    I still cannot believe the fizzle with which our series has ended. With the 1/12 DB5 the subscribers received an additional issue (#86) at the end with a free car cover ... after 134 issues we get "OK, it's over, goodbye". Well goodbye to you as well, Eaglemoss X-(

    It's actually 1/8 DB5, not 1/12. And issue 86 is not a free gift - it costs the same as the other issues, though you can opt out. The JBCC eqivalent of a DB5 car cover would be a storage box to protect your collection from gathering dust.
  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    om99 wrote:
    Wow just been catching up on everything! I haven't been on here in 10 months! 70 pages ago! anyway, a quick question.. I received issue #134 - RR Silver Shadow I. Now, 2 issues normally come each month. But this time I have only one? Is there a reason for this? or a mess up somewhere? Has this Collection ended? Many thanks, om99

    Yep. All over now - Eaglemoss don't want our money any more. Unless of course you'd like to buy several hundred pounds worth of comic book Batmobiles from them........ ;)
  • om99om99 Derbyshire UKPosts: 43MI6 Agent
    om99 wrote:
    Wow just been catching up on everything! I haven't been on here in 10 months! 70 pages ago! anyway, a quick question.. I received issue #134 - RR Silver Shadow I. Now, 2 issues normally come each month. But this time I have only one? Is there a reason for this? or a mess up somewhere? Has this Collection ended? Many thanks, om99

    Yep. All over now - Eaglemoss don't want our mone :D y any more. Unless of course you'd like to buy several hundred pounds worth of comic book Batmobiles from them........ ;)

    Well thanks for your help, be a shame to such a good hobby and collection! And hmm, will have to take a look into that one! Anyway, thanks again
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