Here's what I would have liked to have seen as special editions or in the regular run instead of the 17 police cars and 4 DB5's that we did get.
1. Max Zorin's Airship AVTAK
2. Moonraker 6 Space Shuttle MR
3. Kenworth Truck Cab W-900 LTK
4. AEC Regent III ( Half a Double Decker Bus ) LALD
5. Jetski TSWLM
6. Escape Pod TSWLM
7. Moonraker 1-5 Space Shuttles MR
8. U.S. Space Shuttle MR
9. Aston Martin Vanquish (invisible) DAD
10. Aston Martin V8 (no gadgets version) TLD
11. Max Zorin's Land Rover Range Rover AVTAK
12. Jeep Cherokee (Bond's ride) AVTAK
13. Rolls Royce Phantom V (wedding car) LTK
14. Ferrari F355 Berlinetta (yellow) DAD
15. Moon Buggy in desert DAF
16. Iceberg AVTAK
17. Cello Case TLD
18. Strombergs Jet Bell Helicopter TSWLM
19. Drax's Jet Bell Helicopter MR
20. Universal Exports Jet Bell Helicopter FYEO
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Moviecar Fan - Thanks for the info and advice. I'll have to have a careful look around to see which option is the most cost effective!
Diecast - Fair point re the Batman cases, they are a decent size. However I think it might be easier just to get such cases as a job lot from a model shop or online as Moviecar recommends.
Taylor - Agree with most of your list, exceptions are
6. Escape Pod TSWLM
16. Iceberg AVTAK
17. Cello Case TLD
The Atlantis pod and Cello case would be basic diorama if they had been done. I think it would have been stretching the envelope too much even for the car collection. Ditto the Iceberg sub really, as we don't get to see the subs shape beneath the water. Great Code 3s of both it and the cello featured here on the thread though!)
- Having said that, I was amazed and very pleased, to discover the Q boat model is an actual boat when I got mine. I was afraid it would be a "land toy" like the street used vehicle in the film, with wheels through holes in the hull!
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Moviecar Fan - Thanks for the info and advice. I'll have to have a careful look around to see which option is the most cost effective!
Diecast - Fair point re the Batman cases, they are a decent size. However I think it might be easier just to get such cases as a job lot from a model shop or online as Moviecar recommends.
Taylor - Agree with most of your list, exceptions are
6. Escape Pod TSWLM
16. Iceberg AVTAK
17. Cello Case TLD
The Atlantis pod and Cello case would be basic diorama if they had been done. I think it would have been stretching the envelope too much even for the car collection. Ditto the Iceberg sub really, as we don't get to see the subs shape beneath the water. Great Code 3s of both it and the cello featured here on the thread though!)
- Having said that, I was amazed and very pleased, to discover the Q boat model is an actual boat when I got mine. I was afraid it would be a "land toy" like the street used vehicle in the film, with wheels through holes in the hull!
You're welcome! I actually thought the Batmobile boxes might be a pretty good solution if you can find one cheap enough. Looking at eBay's 'completed listings' they go from about £4 inc postage. Obviously though, it's a question of just how big you need the case to be.
What struck me about Taylor's list was the idea of a desert based 'DAF' moonbuggy. It would be very easy to do using the LD Lightweight Land Rover base & case.
Thanks folks. I always felt the Moon Buggy would have worked much better in the desert setting rather than the fake moon studio setting but I would have been happy to see both versions if the series had continued. Ditto the the Escape pod from TSWLM and the Iceberg Sub from AVTAK. Sure both are silly but I always liked them and Bond WAS in both so..... )
If there ever is a series 2 I hope that we may see at least some of my suggestions come to life. While not collecting them myself I have seen that the Batman and Star Trek and even Doctor Who series are all doing special editions as part of their series and many on my list would have filled that role perfectly I think. Pity we never got any special editions with The JBCC but there you go.
Oh and if they'd done Max Zorin's Airship it would have been the coolest thing ever.
Thanks folks. I always felt the Moon Buggy would have worked much better in the desert setting rather than the fake moon studio setting but I would have been happy to see both versions if the series had continued. Ditto the the Escape pod from TSWLM and the Iceberg Sub from AVTAK. Sure both are silly but I always liked them and Bond WAS in both so..... )
If there ever is a series 2 I hope that we may see at least some of my suggestions come to life. While not collecting them myself I have seen that the Batman and Star Trek and even Doctor Who series are all doing special editions as part of their series and many on my list would have filled that role perfectly I think. Pity we never got any special editions with The JBCC but there you go.
Oh and if they'd done Max Zorin's Airship it would have been the coolest thing ever.
Yes I agree, specials were never part of the collection but something I clearly
Remembering we had to sign for as a subscriber. The James Bond car collection is the definitive collection and lends itself perfectly to specials such as you have suggested. I too hope there is 2nd collection . For whatever reason and for the life of me I don't understand why the Batman collection has lasted so long. When I opened the boxes the other day to my little boys horror they are not even proper Diecast with moving wheels just essentially figurines! They are over priced poor quality bad representations of a minority genre then did not deserve the coverage over JBCC. Here is to more cool code 3's keep JBCC alive. Ps the batman boxes are a good size though lol
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For whatever reason and for the life of me I don't understand why the Batman collection has lasted so long. When I opened the boxes the other day to my little boys horror they are not even proper Diecast with moving wheels just essentially figurines! They are over priced poor quality bad representations of a minority genre then did not deserve the coverage over JBCC. Here is to more cool code 3's keep JBCC alive. Ps the batman boxes are a good size though lol
The batmobiles aren't even actual proper collectable cars?! I'd say that makes them statues! Or possibly DC bookends. I had hoped to get the Batman Forever Batmobile, or possibly the original Keaton era one, but stuff that if they aren't true diecasts! I already have an assembled model kit of the Forever car, Thanks. Sorry for your boys, Diecast that can't have been good.
Taylor I should have added - I would have been in the Q - scuse me, in the queue for the Zorin blimp too. Esp after I saw the miniature from the "dropping out" scene at the Designing 007 expo!
Indeed, here's to more Code 3s, some Code 4s and a few Code 5s! -{
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Are people really still expecting anothe edition? I think too much time has passed and we should realistically accept it will not happen.
I think you are right Jag ... However my last conversation with eaglemoss in autumn 2012 did imply a second collection. If that is to be true my concern is as you have stated a second edition would include previously released models ie repeats . A second collection would be I hope a continuation of new models. Also could they go down the road of producing models similar to batman , essentially ornaments/figurines not model vehicles .
A lot of time has passed since 2012, and we should also never forget how many times Eaglemoss said that a certain issue was the final one and then a week or two later an extension was announced. The JBCC models are still flooding the market, so re-releasing the same collection again would be just too soon. As for figurines, that's a different story, and could take Bond collecting in a whole different direction. But to be successful it would have to be very well prepared and executed. I'd love to see something like Corgi Icon figurines - say one diorama with all main characters for each 007 movie.
I can't honestly see an extension of the existing series happening now. But, I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised to see some sort of re-launch by a partwork company in, say, 6-8 years time, perhaps after a few more Bond movies have been made. That way, the whole thing could be refreshed with new vehicles and perhaps licencing renegotiated to include Craig era figures. Existing vehicles could be marketed in different dioramas such as the moon buggy in the desert, as has already been mentioned, or simple alterations could be made to cars such as the LD Vantage (to be without gadgets). The only reason I say all this is because of other toy/model ranges that are re-launched every so often with obvious success, a prime example being Star Wars figures - collectors out there have now been offered three or more only slightly different sets of the same characters and still keep buying them.
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I see your point MCF, but Hasbro who do the Star Wars toys or Mattel who make products for Disney amongst others are bad examples. They produce hundreds if not thousands of their products for mass distribution as toy companies.
Eaglemoss are a magazine publisher specialising in collectable niche markets, and the JBCC is an example of that. If subscriptions have ended, and letters gone out to the subscribers saying so (I'm guessing if that happened) that implies an end of the product run for good. The fact they extened the publication twice suggests they thought they would give it a good long run before ending it. -All guesswork on my part!
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I see your point MCF, but Hasbro who do the Star Wars toys or Mattel who make products for Disney amongst others are bad examples. They mass produce hundreds if not thousands of their products fir mass distribution as toy companies.
Eagkemoss are a magazine publisher specialising in niche markets, and the JBCC is an example of that. If subscriptions have ended, and letters gone out to the subscribers saying so (I'm guessing if that happened) that implies an end of the product run. The fact they extends it twice suggests they thought they would give it a good go before ending it. -All guesswork on my part!
The point was that collectors can be tempted into buying essentially the same stuff time after time.
Using the Stars Wars figures as an example, there's no reason to suspect the same wouldn't be true for the JBCC if re-launched some years hence. Presumably as long as Universal Hobbies or Ixo or any other die-cast manufacturer have the moulds available, another run of the existing cars would be possible along with any new ones or altered versions. If the partwork company (doesn't have to be Eaglemoss) marketing people are up to scratch, all they would have to do would be to come up with some way of making the new series different enough to hook previous collectors along with new customers. It could be alternative dioramas for the vehicles, different figures, lenticular '3D' backgrounds or simply different packaging. All I know is that in the 30-odd years I've been collecting die-cast, there have been many, many occasions when I've seen 'better' versions of models made by the same company turn up, which have made me ditch half my collection in favour of the re-vamped versions. Vanguards being a prime example, I prefer the display case versions to the earlier cardboard box ones.
Without spending hours and hours going through the entire JBCC set, here's how some of the earliest existing vehicles could appear as alternatives with some changes:
01 GF Aston Martin DB5 - Q's briefing
02 DAD Vanquish - London Underground
03 TSWLM Lotus - emerging on the beach
04 TWINE BMW Z8 - open road, top down
05 FYEO Citroen 2CV - undamaged
06 DAD Jag XKR - no gadgets
12 OHMSS Vantage - drive by shooting
14 LD Vantage - no gadgets
20 CR DBS - crashed!
21 OHMSS Cougar - undamaged
26 LD Lada Police - undamaged
31 DAF Moon Buggy - desert scene
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I must admit a couple of those on your list caught my eye. -
01 GF Aston Martin DB5 - Q's briefing
03 TSWLM Lotus - emerging on the beach
21 OHMSS Cougar - undamaged
As they would have been nice alternatives for my own collection. I am just not sure if magazine companies work in that way. Though as you say, an eight to ten year timeframe for a rerun is completely feasible. It would be good to get Mr Craig era cars with Mr Craig figures! Time will tell I guess.
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28 AMC Hornet – car showroom
35 GF Mustang – undamaged, driver figure
49 CR Daimler – change to M’s Daimler TND
58 QOS Aston Martin DBS – driver figure
63 QOS Alfa Romeo 159 – damaged, mud spattered, gunmen figures
72 LD Audi – corrected vehicle
75 TSWLM Ford Taunus – splattered, in flight
69 LD Aston Martin Vantage/Volante – corrected rear end to car
76 GF Ranchero – corrected vehicle
82 TWINE Q Boat – in the Thames
92 OP Acrostar – in flight
97 GF Rolls Royce – in workshop, gold parts exposed
101 AVTAK Rolls Royce – underwater!
117 GF Merc – change to Oddjob’s grey 220
125 LTK Dodge Ram – burned
126 FRWL Chevy Apache – flowers, figures, damage
133 SF Aston Martin DB5 – Skyfall shootout
000 – YOLT Little Nellie – in flight
These are perhaps some of the more obvious alternative presentations of existing cars, I'm sure other people can think of more possibilities not listed here.
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Two of those I am hoping to do as Code 3s, hence my question about the box sizes.
No - I am not going to say which ones! )
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Those Ixo 1/43 rally cars are a prime example of models that pop up every other year in some new partwork - Monte Carlo, Champion Rally Cars, etc - done by Eaglemoss or one of its competitors.
Another example would be those Ixo 1/43 WW2 vehicles which have also been seen in several partworks, one of the recent ones being from Atlas Editions.
So yes, it is quite likely that a couple years down the line some publisher or other will have a dabble at re-starting a Bond Cars collection ... and it might not be Eaglemoss, whose rights to the series will probably soon lapse. The moulds are owned by Ixo or UH and they would happily pop out whatever models a customer has received permissions from EON to make.
Getting back to the current JBCC, I had a bit of a hunt to get Issue 126, the FRWL Chev C30, it was in short supply amongst the newsagents and my usual one sold out before I got there. I had to drive around a bit to eventually track down one (which was in excellent condition thanfully) at the fourth branch I tried.
Only 8 issues to go for me now
I had a bit of a hunt to get Issue 126, the FRWL Chev C30, it was in short supply amongst the newsagents and my usual one sold out before I got there. I had to drive around a bit to eventually track down one (which was in excellent condition thanfully) at the fourth branch I tried.
Only 8 issues to go for me now
The next issue is a bit of a blockbuster, it would be interesting to hear what you make of that one since it's the biggest of the lot. After that, there's really only 4 more issues to go before it starts to fizzle out (after 131), unfortunately. Then you can join the rest of us crying in our beers {[] Any collecting plans for when it finishes?
I had a bit of a hunt to get Issue 126, the FRWL Chev C30, it was in short supply amongst the newsagents and my usual one sold out before I got there. I had to drive around a bit to eventually track down one (which was in excellent condition thanfully) at the fourth branch I tried.
Only 8 issues to go for me now
The next issue is a bit of a blockbuster, it would be interesting to hear what you make of that one since it's the biggest of the lot. After that, there's really only 4 more issues to go before it starts to fizzle out (after 131), unfortunately. Then you can join the rest of us crying in our beers {[] Any collecting plans for when it finishes?
It looks like I will need to be quick off the mark to secure a copy of Issue 127 if it's anywhere near as popular as Issue 126 has been! Yes, I'm not really taken by what's to follow between 127 and the end, but I am re-discovering some of the fun that collecting these once held now that I am in the 'final straight'. The dioramas of these last issues are all bland generic ones, but the models themselves in the 124 to 127 grouping have been the main attraction for me.
As for when I have them all - if i am going to use what I have been spending on the JBCC still for hobby purposes, I will probably spend it on more Vanguards (which keep going up in price!). I haven't collected any other Bond memorablia, apart from the Fleming paperback novel series and the Ultimate Collection DVDs.
The only other partwork I am currently buying the occasional issue of is The Helicopter Magazine from AmerCom. The Batman Automobilia one hasn't launched in South Africa, but even if it does in the future it would hold no attraction for me, given what people have been saying about it and also because I have never really been attracted to that genre. If another 1/43 scale model partwork were to be launched I would most likely be interested, but after my experience with the JBCC I can vow NEVER AN ENTIRE PARTWORK AGAIN EVER!! Cherry-picking is the way to go!
It looks like I will need to be quick off the mark to secure a copy of Issue 127
The only thing to watch out for with 127 is the clear plastic case. Because it's a 'one-off' sizewise, it would be IMPOSSIBLE to replace if it's cracked, other than buying another complete, identical model. Also I've yet to see an example where the figures have had their hair detailed in properly, the back of the heads are all blue (!) Other than that, if you want to reverse it round so that the gun faces the building, the driver's door mirror is a tad fragile, so it's a case of 'handle with care'.
It looks like I will need to be quick off the mark to secure a copy of Issue 127
The only thing to watch out for with 127 is the clear plastic case. Because it's a 'one-off' sizewise, it would be IMPOSSIBLE to replace if it's cracked, other than buying another complete, identical model. Also I've yet to see an example where the figures have had their hair detailed in properly, the back of the heads are all blue (!) Other than that, if you want to reverse it round so that the gun faces the building, the driver's door mirror is a tad fragile, so it's a case of 'handle with care'.
Some good advice there MCF, I found the hard way breaking the mirror and cracking the box doh!
I got a good copy of Issue 127 with no problem - in fact, there didn't seem to be as much demand for this one as there was for the previous two (which I had to hunt around for as they were sold out at my usual two newsagents), so I bought a second copy I haven't had a chance yet to attempt a model reversal but will bear in mind your pointers when I do. Yes, odd that the backs of the heads aren't painted!
On a different tack, from the Facebook page of The Diecast Magazine (not sure if linking would work, so here is the quote):
"From the Nuremberg Toy Fair comes news that Hot Wheels Elite is adding the James Bond Aston Martin DB5 from "Goldfinger" to its Cult Classics Collection of movie cars. It will be available in 1:18 amd 1:43 scale versions."
I'd certainly be interested in that 1:43 version ... there's a whole selection of dioramas for it to be mounted on, thanks to the JBCC {[]
On a different tack, from the Facebook page of The Diecast Magazine (not sure if linking would work, so here is the quote):
"From the Nuremberg Toy Fair comes news that Hot Wheels Elite is adding the James Bond Aston Martin DB5 from "Goldfinger" to its Cult Classics Collection of movie cars. It will be available in 1:18 amd 1:43 scale versions."
Interesting to note that the pre-order price from diecastlegends.com I quoted for the 1:43 has remained at £69.99, but the 1:18 has increased from £169.99 to £189.99 ...
I have found prices from U.S. dealer entertainmentearth.com which are $59.99 and $179.99 - so roughly half of the UK prices! They show a January 2015 release which would be a shame if the 50th anniversary of GF would be missed.
What is new is that Mattel showed pre-production models at the Nuremberg Toy Fair. Here the only photos I found of the two DB5's, just one is from the 1:43. The pictures are from the German model car magazine auto & modell. http://www.auto-und-modell.de/pages/aktuell/
1:43:
Note that the accompanying text says that the 1:43 will come without working gadgets. For £69.99??? 8-)
The proportions look a bit off too, but this is a prototype so details like the thick window frames and the wheel and tyre sizes may change for productions. As it is now, it reminds me a bit of the 1:8 DB5 with its weird proportions and oversized balloon tyres. (Maybe Mattel used the 1:8 instead of a full-size car to make the moulds?)
(And here the 1:18 - I put it in brackets as it is off-topic in this 1:43 thread
Text explains that the sample shown is in an early stage of development and will change in many details and overall shape until production. [Maybe they will even achieve to mount the front bumper correctly. )] )
I've got the Joyride 1.18 Bond DB5 which seems very similar to this one. I'm guessing that once one manufacturer has 'had a go' with the DB5 licence and sold all their stock of model cars, another manufacturer steps in to do it all over again for the next queue of customers (?)
Good luck to them with the 1.43 version though, that one might be more difficult to sell unless it has something very different about it from the UH, Norev and Minichamps examples.
It would be nice to see the LD Vantage produced in 1.18, - fully armed and laden with gadgets of course!
For those interested, I rang Database to chase up a back issue ordered before Christmas and was told that they no longer have any back issues at all. (I subsequently got the model I wanted on eBay) It just means that prices for mint and boxed JBCC models should start rising in the UK now if they are no longer available at source.
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I hope not re price increases, at least not for a while, I still have two main cars and one "specialist" vehicle left to get from my little hit list.
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I hope not re price increases, at least not for a while, I still have two main cars and one "specialist" vehicle left to get from my little hit list.
Can you tell us what they are? People here might be able to help.
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It would help wouldn't it?
No 1 Aston Martin, GF
No 69 A Martin V8 Volante. TLD.
No 90 Acrostar Jet. OCT
I have looked on EBay, and got my other vehicles there. The brakes are on at the moment for budget reasons.
Plus I am fussy, I want the mag with the vehicle and the case in mint condition. My poor Q Boat arrived with a cracked case. It was not the sellers fault, it was clear the post had been heavy handed.
Once I get these last three I can focus on customs, and start work on my various code 3 - 5s.
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No 1 Aston Martin, GF
No 69 A Martin V8 Volante. TLD.
No 90 Acrostar Jet. OCT
I have looked on EBay, and got my other vehicles there. The brakes are on at the moment for budget reasons.
Plus I am fussy, I want the mag with the vehicle and the case in mint condition. My poor Q Boat arrived with a cracked case. It was not the sellers fault, it was clear the post had been heavy handed.
Once I get these last three I can focus on customs, and start work on my various code 3 - 5s.
Well, the no1 DB5 usually isn't a problem to find in mint condition, they're often very cheap and generally plentiful. The Acrostar and Volante are about the same value each (£7 -£15) but not too rare. Personally I wouldn't worry about the mags being included too much, most of them are available independently on eBay for not much money if necessary.
Edit: I was just browsing the Eaglemoss site and it's showing some JBCC models as still available, which contradicts what I was told by Database. It could be true or the site might be out of date, you know what the IT crowd can be like :v
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1. Max Zorin's Airship AVTAK
2. Moonraker 6 Space Shuttle MR
3. Kenworth Truck Cab W-900 LTK
4. AEC Regent III ( Half a Double Decker Bus ) LALD
5. Jetski TSWLM
6. Escape Pod TSWLM
7. Moonraker 1-5 Space Shuttles MR
8. U.S. Space Shuttle MR
9. Aston Martin Vanquish (invisible) DAD
10. Aston Martin V8 (no gadgets version) TLD
11. Max Zorin's Land Rover Range Rover AVTAK
12. Jeep Cherokee (Bond's ride) AVTAK
13. Rolls Royce Phantom V (wedding car) LTK
14. Ferrari F355 Berlinetta (yellow) DAD
15. Moon Buggy in desert DAF
16. Iceberg AVTAK
17. Cello Case TLD
18. Strombergs Jet Bell Helicopter TSWLM
19. Drax's Jet Bell Helicopter MR
20. Universal Exports Jet Bell Helicopter FYEO
Diecast - Fair point re the Batman cases, they are a decent size. However I think it might be easier just to get such cases as a job lot from a model shop or online as Moviecar recommends.
Taylor - Agree with most of your list, exceptions are
6. Escape Pod TSWLM
16. Iceberg AVTAK
17. Cello Case TLD
The Atlantis pod and Cello case would be basic diorama if they had been done. I think it would have been stretching the envelope too much even for the car collection. Ditto the Iceberg sub really, as we don't get to see the subs shape beneath the water. Great Code 3s of both it and the cello featured here on the thread though!)
- Having said that, I was amazed and very pleased, to discover the Q boat model is an actual boat when I got mine. I was afraid it would be a "land toy" like the street used vehicle in the film, with wheels through holes in the hull!
You're welcome! I actually thought the Batmobile boxes might be a pretty good solution if you can find one cheap enough. Looking at eBay's 'completed listings' they go from about £4 inc postage. Obviously though, it's a question of just how big you need the case to be.
What struck me about Taylor's list was the idea of a desert based 'DAF' moonbuggy. It would be very easy to do using the LD Lightweight Land Rover base & case.
If there ever is a series 2 I hope that we may see at least some of my suggestions come to life. While not collecting them myself I have seen that the Batman and Star Trek and even Doctor Who series are all doing special editions as part of their series and many on my list would have filled that role perfectly I think. Pity we never got any special editions with The JBCC but there you go.
Oh and if they'd done Max Zorin's Airship it would have been the coolest thing ever.
Yes I agree, specials were never part of the collection but something I clearly
Remembering we had to sign for as a subscriber. The James Bond car collection is the definitive collection and lends itself perfectly to specials such as you have suggested. I too hope there is 2nd collection . For whatever reason and for the life of me I don't understand why the Batman collection has lasted so long. When I opened the boxes the other day to my little boys horror they are not even proper Diecast with moving wheels just essentially figurines! They are over priced poor quality bad representations of a minority genre then did not deserve the coverage over JBCC. Here is to more cool code 3's keep JBCC alive. Ps the batman boxes are a good size though lol
The batmobiles aren't even actual proper collectable cars?! I'd say that makes them statues! Or possibly DC bookends. I had hoped to get the Batman Forever Batmobile, or possibly the original Keaton era one, but stuff that if they aren't true diecasts! I already have an assembled model kit of the Forever car, Thanks. Sorry for your boys, Diecast that can't have been good.
Taylor I should have added - I would have been in the Q - scuse me, in the queue for the Zorin blimp too. Esp after I saw the miniature from the "dropping out" scene at the Designing 007 expo!
Indeed, here's to more Code 3s, some Code 4s and a few Code 5s! -{
I think you are right Jag ... However my last conversation with eaglemoss in autumn 2012 did imply a second collection. If that is to be true my concern is as you have stated a second edition would include previously released models ie repeats . A second collection would be I hope a continuation of new models. Also could they go down the road of producing models similar to batman , essentially ornaments/figurines not model vehicles .
Eaglemoss are a magazine publisher specialising in collectable niche markets, and the JBCC is an example of that. If subscriptions have ended, and letters gone out to the subscribers saying so (I'm guessing if that happened) that implies an end of the product run for good. The fact they extened the publication twice suggests they thought they would give it a good long run before ending it. -All guesswork on my part!
The point was that collectors can be tempted into buying essentially the same stuff time after time.
Using the Stars Wars figures as an example, there's no reason to suspect the same wouldn't be true for the JBCC if re-launched some years hence. Presumably as long as Universal Hobbies or Ixo or any other die-cast manufacturer have the moulds available, another run of the existing cars would be possible along with any new ones or altered versions. If the partwork company (doesn't have to be Eaglemoss) marketing people are up to scratch, all they would have to do would be to come up with some way of making the new series different enough to hook previous collectors along with new customers. It could be alternative dioramas for the vehicles, different figures, lenticular '3D' backgrounds or simply different packaging. All I know is that in the 30-odd years I've been collecting die-cast, there have been many, many occasions when I've seen 'better' versions of models made by the same company turn up, which have made me ditch half my collection in favour of the re-vamped versions. Vanguards being a prime example, I prefer the display case versions to the earlier cardboard box ones.
Without spending hours and hours going through the entire JBCC set, here's how some of the earliest existing vehicles could appear as alternatives with some changes:
01 GF Aston Martin DB5 - Q's briefing
02 DAD Vanquish - London Underground
03 TSWLM Lotus - emerging on the beach
04 TWINE BMW Z8 - open road, top down
05 FYEO Citroen 2CV - undamaged
06 DAD Jag XKR - no gadgets
12 OHMSS Vantage - drive by shooting
14 LD Vantage - no gadgets
20 CR DBS - crashed!
21 OHMSS Cougar - undamaged
26 LD Lada Police - undamaged
31 DAF Moon Buggy - desert scene
I must admit a couple of those on your list caught my eye. -
01 GF Aston Martin DB5 - Q's briefing
03 TSWLM Lotus - emerging on the beach
21 OHMSS Cougar - undamaged
As they would have been nice alternatives for my own collection. I am just not sure if magazine companies work in that way. Though as you say, an eight to ten year timeframe for a rerun is completely feasible. It would be good to get Mr Craig era cars with Mr Craig figures! Time will tell I guess.
28 AMC Hornet – car showroom
35 GF Mustang – undamaged, driver figure
49 CR Daimler – change to M’s Daimler TND
58 QOS Aston Martin DBS – driver figure
63 QOS Alfa Romeo 159 – damaged, mud spattered, gunmen figures
72 LD Audi – corrected vehicle
75 TSWLM Ford Taunus – splattered, in flight
69 LD Aston Martin Vantage/Volante – corrected rear end to car
76 GF Ranchero – corrected vehicle
82 TWINE Q Boat – in the Thames
92 OP Acrostar – in flight
97 GF Rolls Royce – in workshop, gold parts exposed
101 AVTAK Rolls Royce – underwater!
117 GF Merc – change to Oddjob’s grey 220
125 LTK Dodge Ram – burned
126 FRWL Chevy Apache – flowers, figures, damage
133 SF Aston Martin DB5 – Skyfall shootout
000 – YOLT Little Nellie – in flight
These are perhaps some of the more obvious alternative presentations of existing cars, I'm sure other people can think of more possibilities not listed here.
No - I am not going to say which ones!
I think I can guess but I'm not saying, either!!
Another example would be those Ixo 1/43 WW2 vehicles which have also been seen in several partworks, one of the recent ones being from Atlas Editions.
So yes, it is quite likely that a couple years down the line some publisher or other will have a dabble at re-starting a Bond Cars collection ... and it might not be Eaglemoss, whose rights to the series will probably soon lapse. The moulds are owned by Ixo or UH and they would happily pop out whatever models a customer has received permissions from EON to make.
Getting back to the current JBCC, I had a bit of a hunt to get Issue 126, the FRWL Chev C30, it was in short supply amongst the newsagents and my usual one sold out before I got there. I had to drive around a bit to eventually track down one (which was in excellent condition thanfully) at the fourth branch I tried.
Only 8 issues to go for me now
The next issue is a bit of a blockbuster, it would be interesting to hear what you make of that one since it's the biggest of the lot. After that, there's really only 4 more issues to go before it starts to fizzle out (after 131), unfortunately. Then you can join the rest of us crying in our beers {[] Any collecting plans for when it finishes?
As for when I have them all - if i am going to use what I have been spending on the JBCC still for hobby purposes, I will probably spend it on more Vanguards (which keep going up in price!). I haven't collected any other Bond memorablia, apart from the Fleming paperback novel series and the Ultimate Collection DVDs.
The only other partwork I am currently buying the occasional issue of is The Helicopter Magazine from AmerCom. The Batman Automobilia one hasn't launched in South Africa, but even if it does in the future it would hold no attraction for me, given what people have been saying about it and also because I have never really been attracted to that genre. If another 1/43 scale model partwork were to be launched I would most likely be interested, but after my experience with the JBCC I can vow NEVER AN ENTIRE PARTWORK AGAIN EVER!! Cherry-picking is the way to go!
The only thing to watch out for with 127 is the clear plastic case. Because it's a 'one-off' sizewise, it would be IMPOSSIBLE to replace if it's cracked, other than buying another complete, identical model. Also I've yet to see an example where the figures have had their hair detailed in properly, the back of the heads are all blue (!) Other than that, if you want to reverse it round so that the gun faces the building, the driver's door mirror is a tad fragile, so it's a case of 'handle with care'.
Some good advice there MCF, I found the hard way breaking the mirror and cracking the box doh!
On a different tack, from the Facebook page of The Diecast Magazine (not sure if linking would work, so here is the quote):
"From the Nuremberg Toy Fair comes news that Hot Wheels Elite is adding the James Bond Aston Martin DB5 from "Goldfinger" to its Cult Classics Collection of movie cars. It will be available in 1:18 amd 1:43 scale versions."
I'd certainly be interested in that 1:43 version ... there's a whole selection of dioramas for it to be mounted on, thanks to the JBCC {[]
http://www.leighsdiary.com/2013/10/11/mattel's-2014-announcements-now-online/
Interesting to note that the pre-order price from diecastlegends.com I quoted for the 1:43 has remained at £69.99, but the 1:18 has increased from £169.99 to £189.99 ...
I have found prices from U.S. dealer entertainmentearth.com which are $59.99 and $179.99 - so roughly half of the UK prices!
What is new is that Mattel showed pre-production models at the Nuremberg Toy Fair. Here the only photos I found of the two DB5's, just one is from the 1:43. The pictures are from the German model car magazine auto & modell.
http://www.auto-und-modell.de/pages/aktuell/
1:43:
Note that the accompanying text says that the 1:43 will come without working gadgets. For £69.99??? 8-)
The proportions look a bit off too, but this is a prototype so details like the thick window frames and the wheel and tyre sizes may change for productions. As it is now, it reminds me a bit of the 1:8 DB5 with its weird proportions and oversized balloon tyres. (Maybe Mattel used the 1:8 instead of a full-size car to make the moulds?)
(And here the 1:18 - I put it in brackets as it is off-topic in this 1:43 thread
Text explains that the sample shown is in an early stage of development and will change in many details and overall shape until production. [Maybe they will even achieve to mount the front bumper correctly.
Good luck to them with the 1.43 version though, that one might be more difficult to sell unless it has something very different about it from the UH, Norev and Minichamps examples.
It would be nice to see the LD Vantage produced in 1.18, - fully armed and laden with gadgets of course!
For those interested, I rang Database to chase up a back issue ordered before Christmas and was told that they no longer have any back issues at all. (I subsequently got the model I wanted on eBay) It just means that prices for mint and boxed JBCC models should start rising in the UK now if they are no longer available at source.
Can you tell us what they are? People here might be able to help.
No 1 Aston Martin, GF
No 69 A Martin V8 Volante. TLD.
No 90 Acrostar Jet. OCT
I have looked on EBay, and got my other vehicles there. The brakes are on at the moment for budget reasons.
Plus I am fussy, I want the mag with the vehicle and the case in mint condition. My poor Q Boat arrived with a cracked case. It was not the sellers fault, it was clear the post had been heavy handed.
Once I get these last three I can focus on customs, and start work on my various code 3 - 5s.
Well, the no1 DB5 usually isn't a problem to find in mint condition, they're often very cheap and generally plentiful. The Acrostar and Volante are about the same value each (£7 -£15) but not too rare. Personally I wouldn't worry about the mags being included too much, most of them are available independently on eBay for not much money if necessary.
Edit: I was just browsing the Eaglemoss site and it's showing some JBCC models as still available, which contradicts what I was told by Database. It could be true or the site might be out of date, you know what the IT crowd can be like :v
https://www.mycollectionshop.com/james-bond-cars
I also found this, the latest in the Batmobile series, which will no doubt be of interest to fans of the classic TV Batman show:
I suppose the JBCC lives on in these models in a way, as well as the Code3s.
!!! For your eyes only !!!
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