Being somewhat disappointed with the packaging of the two new Corgi James Bond Aston Martin DB5's.
I thought why not have a go at producing my own concept version, utilising what I have in my collection in the way of boxes and reference material, I used the 04201 version in the pictures.
My concept version is a box with an opening, with black tray inside to take the car and secret instructions, and to include a 24pp information leaflet. -{
Some crazy prices on eBay already, one guy is selling as pay-now-get-later, was asking £100 for the gold one yesterday, but £130 today!!
He has reduced the price now to £110 - and has already sold 4 for £100, 1 for £130, and 3 for £110. And he has begun to charge £30 instead of £20 for the silver one.
What I find questionable is that this is a "Corgi Platinum Stockist"; it casts a poor light on Corgi when their premium stockists charge 550% more than MSRP.
I will wait a bit, I am sure that there will be another production run. These are no numbered limited editions, just one out of six is gold. But not limited to how many silver and gold will actually be produced. I remember the Skyfall DB5 which was also in short supply first but now is still available. The same will happen with both of the new DB5's.
Some crazy prices on eBay already, one guy is selling as pay-now-get-later, was asking £100 for the gold one yesterday, but £130 today!!
He has reduced the price now to £110 - and has already sold 4 for £100, 1 for £130, and 3 for £110. And he has begun to charge £30 instead of £20 for the silver one.
What I find questionable is that this is a "Corgi Platinum Stockist"; it casts a poor light on Corgi when their premium stockists charge 550% more than MSRP.
I will wait a bit, I am sure that there will be another production run. These are no numbered limited editions, just one out of six is gold. But not limited to how many silver and gold will actually be produced. I remember the Skyfall DB5 which was also in short supply first but now is still available. The same will happen with both of the new DB5's.
Out of interest, I've emailed Corgi for information on the availability of the gold DB5 (CC04203). If they reply with anything other than "contact your lovely friendly local dealer for info!" I'll pass it on. Regarding the people selling CC04203 at £100 plus on eBay, my advice to anyone would be to think about buying an original issue (no. 261) instead. £100 should be enough for an unboxed 'near mint' (only very slightly marked) example which might be a much safer investment than a re-issue sold at 550% over MSRP as RW calculated.
I agree with RW, there will be another production run. I am in the market for only the silver one anyway and I've pre-ordered with my local supplier and I'm confident I'll get one at RRP.
While Corgi is tagging the gold one (code is CC04203G, & without the G suffix for the silver one) as "Limited Edition", as RW says it definitely isn't limited in the usual sense of the word, with enclosed numbered cards stating a production total & edition number. So just the "hard to find" sort of limited edition 8-)
Your advice is a good idea, MCF - one may as well go for the original as this anniversary edition might be painted gold but it is two castings (and scales) away from that original 1965 edition.
I spoke with Corgi yesterday and have spent some time researching this.
Everything that has been reported I believe to be correct - the gold ones are in a trade pack with 5 silver ones, so 1 in 6. All retailers have had their order numbers confirmed and they are shipping imminently.
There are NO plans for a further production and the only availability will be through returns; very unlikely when you note the prices that these are already commanding. I do agree with Rainier however that when they see the £'s Corgi will order another production run. This could all be a publicity stunt to raise awareness and personally I will be waiting to see what transpires rather than lining the pockets of the unscrupulous Corgi stockists who spend the rest of the year chasing our business.
All of this information is only what I believe to be true and I advise that you do your own research.
Well, here are the two new Corgi DB5s: (double click for big photos)
The boxes have a neat trick built into them - when the display inner part containing the model is pulled out, the collector's card automatically slides out by itself at the other end:
There's a retro style instruction sheet included, both licence plates turn and the car is definitely the 1.43 casting. Can recommend to all as they say! -{
Thanks for showing, MCF! Can you do a comparison with a 1995 casting? The new one look much better, especially the headlights. And the collector's card - is it showing an edition number?
Thanks for showing, MCF! Can you do a comparison with a 1995 casting? The new one look much better, especially the headlights. And the collector's card - is it showing an edition number?
There aren't any edition numbers on the collector's cards included with my two models, so it doesn't appear they are a limited run. Being a typical die-cast collector, my mid 90's Corgi 1.43 (Oddjob issue) DB5 is at the bottom of a box full of 1.36 scale Bond vehicles, so you will have to give me time to go searching! If no-one else posts a comparison in the meantime I'll try and post some photos online in a few days.
The announcement you posted is identical to the reply I've just received to my email to Corgi on the same subject. I guess for anybody wanting either colour model, it's a case of pre-ordering directly from Corgi (BTW Corgi pre-orders totaling over £30 don't necessarily qualify for free UK postage) or talking to a dealer who can guarantee getting hold of one at a sensible price (!)
As a newbie, I've got several basic questions about the Bond vehicle collectibles.
1. Is there a comprehensive list of Bond diecast vehicles available anywhere?
2. I live in the US and most of the Bond collectibles seem to only be available in Europe. I've looked on Ebay but shipping costs are sometimes 2-3 times the cost of the cars. Thoughts?
3. What should I expect to pay for one of the 130+ 1:43 scale cars available through either Universal Hobbies or Eaglemoss? Is this the most readily available set? Where can these be purchased new? Are new vehicles still being produced, or are all of these discontinued, etc.?
Sorry for the basic questions but would really like to begin piecing together a collection of Bond vehicles and just not sure how to begin. In desperate need of a Bond Vehicle Collecting 101 tutorial Thanks for any help!
2. I live in the US and most of the Bond collectibles seem to only be available in Europe. I've looked on Ebay but shipping costs are sometimes 2-3 times the cost of the cars. Thoughts?
Probably best to look out for someone in the UK selling up a largish set as a job lot and then the postage might be more worth it.
Good luck!
The only thing I would add to FACT's good advice is to ask the seller to check every model in his/her collection for cracks in the perspex cases before you buy. The JBCC series is notorious for that problem even when the cars are sold in sealed blister packs, and the cases are expensive to replace if damaged, so more than one or two offenders could be a problem.
I don't think many people sell large collections, they tend to get more money selling the cars individually, so you could potentially get yourself a bargain if you can find an extensive well-kept set. Here's an example of what to look for - in this instance a complete set, sealed with mags - (unfortunately it's a UK only deal, but other sellers will ship worldwide)
Thank you, MI6 Agent and MovieCarFan, really appreciate the information!
The complete set on Ebay is amazing! Is 900 pounds ($1370) about the going rate for a complete set of cars? That comes to a little over $10 per car which seems to be considerably cheaper than the individual cars are selling on Ebay. While I'm not wanting to purchase them as an investment, neither do I want to pay more than I would be able to get out of them at a later date if I was forced to part with them. So far on Ebay I've only seen individual models with very few overseas sellers willing to combine shipping costs.
Does anyone know of any other websites, venues, or forums where these can still be purchased, either new or secondhand?
Thank you, MI6 Agent and MovieCarFan, really appreciate the information!
The complete set on Ebay is amazing! Is 900 pounds ($1370) about the going rate for a complete set of cars? That comes to a little over $10 per car which seems to be considerably cheaper than the individual cars are selling on Ebay. While I'm not wanting to purchase them as an investment, neither do I want to pay more than I would be able to get out of them at a later date if I was forced to part with them. So far on Ebay I've only seen individual models with very few overseas sellers willing to combine shipping costs.
Does anyone know of any other websites, venues, or forums where these can still be purchased, either new or secondhand?
Thanks, again, everyone!
In the UK, the entire set would have cost about £1072 direct from source (134 X £8 each) so anything less than that for a mint set including shipping would be a good deal IMHO. You would definitely be wise not to view them as an investment, it's unlikely most people would make a fortune out of them - much better to think of them as something pleasing to own whether you're a Bond fan or a car fan, or both! B-)
I have collected my Trade Pack of 5 x Silver and 1 x Gold James Bond Aston Martin DB5's (CC04203 and CC04203G) and mentioned the prices that were being achieved on eBay. My local retailer said that he had tried to order some more and the order book had been closed, so unless they already had it on order they will not be getting anymore. The dealers that are taking Pre-Orders on eBay may come unstuck. They said that there will be another production but the packaging will change.
That is very interesting, I bet Corgi are going to have real problems trying to decide whether to produce the DB10 in 1.43 or 1.36 scale. If it's in 1.36, they could potentially re-launch the 'Director's Cut' type range of Bond vehicles (which are more like children's toys) by adding the DB10 to the Skyfall DB5. If it's in 1.43 with 'Vanguards' quality, they could add it to the anniversary DB5 and a Bond version of the upcoming Lotus Esprit, thus laying the ground for a whole new series of more upmarket prestige Bond models. Bearing in mind most Bond collectors are discerning adults, I would have thought the 1.43 route would definitely be the one to go down.
I have collected my Trade Pack of 5 x Silver and 1 x Gold James Bond Aston Martin DB5's (CC04203 and CC04203G) and mentioned the prices that were being achieved on eBay. My local retailer said that he had tried to order some more and the order book had been closed, so unless they already had it on order they will not be getting anymore. The dealers that are taking Pre-Orders on eBay may come unstuck. They said that there will be another production but the packaging will change.
If the packaging changes, the first run will probably maintain their current high prices on eBay because the difference will mark them out as 'special'. Having looked at the mechanism used to create the automatic slide-in slide-out feature on the box (an acetate loop) I would imagine it must be quite labour intensive to put together and test, so I'm guessing it might be missing on the new packaging.
At the Nuremberg toy fair a Hornby spokesman said that "the first batch has sold out and we have more coming over". These will still be from the first run but unlike the first batch which probably was flown in to be in Europe in time for the toy fair the rest of this first run is still en route on some container ship. I still count on more of these models to show up and be available for £19.99. And when this first run has sold out then maybe there will be another run with a different packaging.
That is very interesting, I bet Corgi are going to have real problems trying to decide whether to produce the DB10 in 1.43 or 1.36 scale. If it's in 1.36, they could potentially re-launch the 'Director's Cut' type range of Bond vehicles (which are more like children's toys) by adding the DB10 to the Skyfall DB5. If it's in 1.43 with 'Vanguards' quality, they could add it to the anniversary DB5 and a Bond version of the upcoming Lotus Esprit, thus laying the ground for a whole new series of more upmarket prestige Bond models. Bearing in mind most Bond collectors are discerning adults, I would have thought the 1.43 route would definitely be the one to go down.
I still believe that the 1:43 DB10 will come from Hot Wheels Elite (although I haven't seen an announcement yet) and Corgi rather doing a 1:36 version. Or if the rumors are true and the DB10 is outfitted with gadgets (e.g. a rocket launcher) then Corgi could make the "toy" version with gadget(s) and HW Elite doing the "collector model", both in 1:43.
Anyway, I thought I'd share some more additions to my ever increasing collection. I'm now up to 212 vehicles, but, unfortunately unlike to the TARDIS my cellar is not dimensionally transindental and shelf space is getting a bit of an issue (Not to mention my wife and daughters looks of disbelief when another 'toy' gets delivered!)
First up, Octopussy
Skyfall:
Continuing the novels we now have Rolls from Goldfinger (probably not quite right, but then I'm the only one that will know that!... and the scales wrong!)
From John Gardner - the Saab 9000. Obviously what I really want is a Silver Beast 900 turbo - but finding a reasonably priced 1/43 is very difficult
Next up the Volga from Devil May Care
The Bentley from Carte Blanche - this was a 4 quid model from a toy shop in the Czech Republic - does the job though.
A Benson car next:
The latest novel features the Jensen Interceptor - I know this isn't an FF!
Finally, a selection of cars from the comic strip - Enjoy!
Great work SWJ! {[] You've certainly been busy, this batch of models must have cost you a small fortune in cars and donor cases, but just look at the results!
Great work SWJ! {[] You've certainly been busy, this batch of models must have cost you a small fortune in cars and donor cases, but just look at the results!
Love the Jensen - is that an Oxford Diecast?
Hello
Yes it is the Oxford diecast.
I dare not add up how much! But to be honest I only buy when I get a good bargain. If on ebay I set my highest bid and stick to it. The highest I've ever paid for a vehicle is £25. Usually I've managed to stay well below the £20 mark. but it all adds up!
But wandering around various shops usually turns up a bargain and I spend a lot of time in the Czech Republic and every so often I come across some very cheap models.
The donor cases - actually I've not found that much of a problem. About 18 months ago I got 15 cases for 30 quid (incl P&P). One had a crack in the case - but what the hell. I ended up with about 4 bronze Esprits and 3 DB5s (one of which got burnt out and placed outside Skyfall )
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this is STUNNING.
I haven't found any official photos, even the Hot Wheels Elite website still shows "Coming soon" instead of a photo. 8-)
http://www.hotwheels-elite.com/model-cars-miniature/cult-classics-collection/1120/aston-martin-db5-goldfinger.php
http://www.hotwheels-elite.com/model-cars-miniature/cult-classics-collection/1119/aston-martin-db5-goldfinger.php
These pictures of the Elite prototypes were shown already on page 272.
Photos from http://www.auto-und-modell.de/pages/aktuell/
1:43 (no gadgets or opening parts):
1:18:
Have just found this photo of Mattel's 2014 Nuremberg toy fair stand. They had a real DB5 there. I hope the designers took a good look at this car between the prototype models and the start of production. (For starters, there is only a thin chrome weatherstrip but no window frame on the rear side windows ...)
(http://www.collectors-club-of-great-britain.co.uk/TV-and-Film/News/Hot-Wheels-James-Bond-Goldfinger-DB5/_ch35_nw1179)
http://www.corgi.co.uk/shop/tv-and-film-favourites.html
Some crazy prices on eBay already, one guy is selling as pay-now-get-later, was asking £100 for the gold one yesterday, but £130 today!!
What I find questionable is that this is a "Corgi Platinum Stockist"; it casts a poor light on Corgi when their premium stockists charge 550% more than MSRP.
I will wait a bit, I am sure that there will be another production run. These are no numbered limited editions, just one out of six is gold. But not limited to how many silver and gold will actually be produced. I remember the Skyfall DB5 which was also in short supply first but now is still available. The same will happen with both of the new DB5's.
Out of interest, I've emailed Corgi for information on the availability of the gold DB5 (CC04203). If they reply with anything other than "contact your lovely friendly local dealer for info!" I'll pass it on. Regarding the people selling CC04203 at £100 plus on eBay, my advice to anyone would be to think about buying an original issue (no. 261) instead. £100 should be enough for an unboxed 'near mint' (only very slightly marked) example which might be a much safer investment than a re-issue sold at 550% over MSRP as RW calculated.
While Corgi is tagging the gold one (code is CC04203G, & without the G suffix for the silver one) as "Limited Edition", as RW says it definitely isn't limited in the usual sense of the word, with enclosed numbered cards stating a production total & edition number. So just the "hard to find" sort of limited edition 8-)
Your advice is a good idea, MCF - one may as well go for the original as this anniversary edition might be painted gold but it is two castings (and scales) away from that original 1965 edition.
Everything that has been reported I believe to be correct - the gold ones are in a trade pack with 5 silver ones, so 1 in 6. All retailers have had their order numbers confirmed and they are shipping imminently.
There are NO plans for a further production and the only availability will be through returns; very unlikely when you note the prices that these are already commanding. I do agree with Rainier however that when they see the £'s Corgi will order another production run. This could all be a publicity stunt to raise awareness and personally I will be waiting to see what transpires rather than lining the pockets of the unscrupulous Corgi stockists who spend the rest of the year chasing our business.
All of this information is only what I believe to be true and I advise that you do your own research.
The boxes have a neat trick built into them - when the display inner part containing the model is pulled out, the collector's card automatically slides out by itself at the other end:
There's a retro style instruction sheet included, both licence plates turn and the car is definitely the 1.43 casting. Can recommend to all as they say! -{
As expected, Corgi announces a second production run, deliveries due late February:
http://www.corgi.co.uk/news/update-james-bond-aston-martin-db5/
There aren't any edition numbers on the collector's cards included with my two models, so it doesn't appear they are a limited run. Being a typical die-cast collector, my mid 90's Corgi 1.43 (Oddjob issue) DB5 is at the bottom of a box full of 1.36 scale Bond vehicles, so you will have to give me time to go searching! If no-one else posts a comparison in the meantime I'll try and post some photos online in a few days.
The announcement you posted is identical to the reply I've just received to my email to Corgi on the same subject. I guess for anybody wanting either colour model, it's a case of pre-ordering directly from Corgi (BTW Corgi pre-orders totaling over £30 don't necessarily qualify for free UK postage) or talking to a dealer who can guarantee getting hold of one at a sensible price (!)
As a newbie, I've got several basic questions about the Bond vehicle collectibles.
1. Is there a comprehensive list of Bond diecast vehicles available anywhere?
2. I live in the US and most of the Bond collectibles seem to only be available in Europe. I've looked on Ebay but shipping costs are sometimes 2-3 times the cost of the cars. Thoughts?
3. What should I expect to pay for one of the 130+ 1:43 scale cars available through either Universal Hobbies or Eaglemoss? Is this the most readily available set? Where can these be purchased new? Are new vehicles still being produced, or are all of these discontinued, etc.?
Sorry for the basic questions but would really like to begin piecing together a collection of Bond vehicles and just not sure how to begin. In desperate need of a Bond Vehicle Collecting 101 tutorial
There's one for the Fabbri/Eaglemoss JBCC partwork (what this thread is mainly about) on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond_Car_Collection
Diecast Direct in the USA has the JBCC cars for sale, but unfortunately not what I'd consider cheap: https://www.diecastdirect.com/asp_modules/catalogmfg.asp?Mfg=EE&Type=H
Probably best to look out for someone in the UK selling up a largish set as a job lot and then the postage might be more worth it.
Good luck!
The only thing I would add to FACT's good advice is to ask the seller to check every model in his/her collection for cracks in the perspex cases before you buy. The JBCC series is notorious for that problem even when the cars are sold in sealed blister packs, and the cases are expensive to replace if damaged, so more than one or two offenders could be a problem.
I don't think many people sell large collections, they tend to get more money selling the cars individually, so you could potentially get yourself a bargain if you can find an extensive well-kept set. Here's an example of what to look for - in this instance a complete set, sealed with mags - (unfortunately it's a UK only deal, but other sellers will ship worldwide)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/James-Bond-Car-and-Magazine-Collection-Complete-Full-Set-of-134-Issues-/261724367954?pt=UK_ToysGames_DiecastVehicles_DiecastVehicles_JN&hash=item3ceffcec52
The complete set on Ebay is amazing! Is 900 pounds ($1370) about the going rate for a complete set of cars? That comes to a little over $10 per car which seems to be considerably cheaper than the individual cars are selling on Ebay. While I'm not wanting to purchase them as an investment, neither do I want to pay more than I would be able to get out of them at a later date if I was forced to part with them. So far on Ebay I've only seen individual models with very few overseas sellers willing to combine shipping costs.
Does anyone know of any other websites, venues, or forums where these can still be purchased, either new or secondhand?
Thanks, again, everyone!
In the UK, the entire set would have cost about £1072 direct from source (134 X £8 each) so anything less than that for a mint set including shipping would be a good deal IMHO. You would definitely be wise not to view them as an investment, it's unlikely most people would make a fortune out of them - much better to think of them as something pleasing to own whether you're a Bond fan or a car fan, or both! B-)
http://www.collectors-club-of-great-britain.co.uk/Diecast-Collecting/News/International-Toy-Fair-2015-Corgi-James-Bond-Aston-Martin-DB5/_ch26_nw1471
That is very interesting, I bet Corgi are going to have real problems trying to decide whether to produce the DB10 in 1.43 or 1.36 scale. If it's in 1.36, they could potentially re-launch the 'Director's Cut' type range of Bond vehicles (which are more like children's toys) by adding the DB10 to the Skyfall DB5. If it's in 1.43 with 'Vanguards' quality, they could add it to the anniversary DB5 and a Bond version of the upcoming Lotus Esprit, thus laying the ground for a whole new series of more upmarket prestige Bond models. Bearing in mind most Bond collectors are discerning adults, I would have thought the 1.43 route would definitely be the one to go down.
If the packaging changes, the first run will probably maintain their current high prices on eBay because the difference will mark them out as 'special'. Having looked at the mechanism used to create the automatic slide-in slide-out feature on the box (an acetate loop) I would imagine it must be quite labour intensive to put together and test, so I'm guessing it might be missing on the new packaging.
I do pop in occasionally to catch up on any news.
Anyway, I thought I'd share some more additions to my ever increasing collection. I'm now up to 212 vehicles, but, unfortunately unlike to the TARDIS my cellar is not dimensionally transindental and shelf space is getting a bit of an issue (Not to mention my wife and daughters looks of disbelief when another 'toy' gets delivered!)
First up, Octopussy
Skyfall:
Continuing the novels we now have Rolls from Goldfinger (probably not quite right, but then I'm the only one that will know that!... and the scales wrong!)
From John Gardner - the Saab 9000. Obviously what I really want is a Silver Beast 900 turbo - but finding a reasonably priced 1/43 is very difficult
Next up the Volga from Devil May Care
The Bentley from Carte Blanche - this was a 4 quid model from a toy shop in the Czech Republic - does the job though.
A Benson car next:
The latest novel features the Jensen Interceptor - I know this isn't an FF!
Finally, a selection of cars from the comic strip - Enjoy!
Love the Jensen - is that an Oxford Diecast?
Hello
Yes it is the Oxford diecast.
I dare not add up how much! But to be honest I only buy when I get a good bargain. If on ebay I set my highest bid and stick to it. The highest I've ever paid for a vehicle is £25. Usually I've managed to stay well below the £20 mark. but it all adds up!
But wandering around various shops usually turns up a bargain and I spend a lot of time in the Czech Republic and every so often I come across some very cheap models.
The donor cases - actually I've not found that much of a problem. About 18 months ago I got 15 cases for 30 quid (incl P&P). One had a crack in the case - but what the hell. I ended up with about 4 bronze Esprits and 3 DB5s (one of which got burnt out and placed outside Skyfall