James Bond Car Collection - Questions and praise

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  • LegomanLegoman PerthPosts: 89MI6 Agent
    Hahaha the Mercedes Benz 250SE from Octopussy (issue 23) if you cut off the display pedestal on the bottom will actually run around on it's rims. It has enough ground clearance to roll around on a flat surface without any tyres. What's more, the rail spacing on the diorama exactly matches that of 'O' gauge model railways. My brother is right into model railways and electronics. I reckon it would be possible to get the required electronics into this model to make it powered and able to run on someone's 'O' gauge railway. I'd love to see that. That would be so ridiculously cool! Difficult bit would be finding metal wheels to replace the model ones to act as pickup conductors. The rest would be fairly straight forward. Plenty of room inside the model for electronics. Back seat might have to make way though.
  • spikeprsspikeprs Posts: 9MI6 Agent
    There is a car from TSWLM that they could do, its the Ford Cortina thats gets covered in cement! In the Corgi Junior gift set, they use a Merc instead! This would be far better than the Ford GT40 from DAD that we're getting. I think they are now using up pre-made stock items. I hope they prove me wrong.
  • spikeprsspikeprs Posts: 9MI6 Agent
    To quote - "Such a shame they probably won't be allowed to model the cars from NSNA. There is heaps of scope for not only good cars, but excellent diorama scenes as well. NSNA is far more of a real Bond film to me than either of the Daniel Craig films."
    I agree, they should produce some cars from NSNA as it is a "Bond" film, unless they are bound by contract to EON produtions only.
    I dont agree that the 2 DC films are crap. They are in a different league to all the others. I agree QoS was not as good as CR, but thats another topic.
  • 84208420 Posts: 721MI6 Agent
    I have never seen the cars from NSNA as i haven't watched that bond film ;% :#
  • Aston Martin DBSAston Martin DBS Derbyshire, EnglandPosts: 660MI6 Agent
    8420 wrote:
    I have never seen the cars from NSNA as i haven't watched that bond film ;% :#

    Some would say that you've not missed out on a great deal there :v
    "NEVER SAY NO TO ADVENTURES." Ian Fleming
  • LegomanLegoman PerthPosts: 89MI6 Agent
    8420 wrote:
    I have never seen the cars from NSNA as i haven't watched that bond film ;% :#
    It's a direct remake of TB updated for the time of course, which is probably why I like it so much. TB is my favourite Bond film, so having two of them is great AFAIC.

    I'd even like a model of the cruise missiles! though I think that might be stretching the "Bond Cars" concept a bit far!
  • LegomanLegoman PerthPosts: 89MI6 Agent
    edited December 2008
    Two questions:
    1) Have you guys in the UK been able to get replacement clear plastic diorama case covers at all? I have asked out here but the distributors say they have no supply of just the covers. Seems wasteful to me because 9 times out of 10 the only thing wrong with my deliveries is a cracked diorama case. The model itself is undamaged. A simple replacement diorama cover is all it needs.

    2) What sort of bagging do the UK distributors use for the issues? Down here at the beginning they were using rather nice resealable monogrammed plastic bags (which I've kept) but since about issue 5 have resorted to using much more disposable and cheaper plastic bags more like crisp packets which are virtually impossible to open without destroying.
  • Aston Martin DBSAston Martin DBS Derbyshire, EnglandPosts: 660MI6 Agent
    Legoman wrote:
    Two questions:
    1) Have you guys in the UK been able to get replacement clear plastic diorama case covers at all? I have asked out here but the distributors say they have no supply of just the covers. Seems wasteful to me because 9 times out of 10 the only thing wrong with my deliveries is a cracked diorama case. The model itself is undamaged. A simple replacement diorama cover is all it needs.

    I don't know if they do offer the free plastic covers in the UK or not but I have had an idea about a possible solution. In the UK the first issue a Goldinger Aston Martin with the tyre slasher sticking out was the first model that retailed for £2.99. If this model is cheaper in your country why not order another one and then you can use the cover from if for the model with the broken cover.

    However I know that the UK distribution company are very good at replacing damaged models so you might wish to ring the subscription telephone line and ask if they can send you a replacement free of charge??
    "NEVER SAY NO TO ADVENTURES." Ian Fleming
  • Aston Martin DBSAston Martin DBS Derbyshire, EnglandPosts: 660MI6 Agent
    I think that the original bomb from NSNA is owned by Graham Rye of 007 magazine
    "NEVER SAY NO TO ADVENTURES." Ian Fleming
  • s96024s96024 Posts: 1,519MI6 Agent
    Legoman wrote:
    Two questions:
    1) Have you guys in the UK been able to get replacement clear plastic diorama case covers at all? I have asked out here but the distributors say they have no supply of just the covers. Seems wasteful to me because 9 times out of 10 the only thing wrong with my deliveries is a cracked diorama case. The model itself is undamaged. A simple replacement diorama cover is all it needs.

    2) What sort of bagging do the UK distributors use for the issues? Down here at the beginning they were using rather nice resealable monogrammed plastic bags (which I've kept) but since about issue 5 have resorted to using much more disposable and cheaper plastic bags more like crisp packets which are virtually impossible to open without destroying.

    It's probably more hassle for them to get a new case than to just send you another model.

    As for delivery the first few were in bags, but then I think due to all the damages they changed to cardboard boxes.
  • LegomanLegoman PerthPosts: 89MI6 Agent
    edited December 2008
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    Issue 70. Oh boy oh boy oh boy! I can't wait. I'm gonna get me like 20 of these! First to find and post a photo of the actual model and diorama, wins a cookie!

    I've gotta say though that for pure model detail and accuracy as well as uniqueness, the Mini Moke from LALD is gonna take some beating.
  • 84208420 Posts: 721MI6 Agent
    What movie is that car from?
  • ak007ak007 LondonPosts: 343MI6 Agent
    Legoman wrote:
    http://www.imcdb.org/images/010/298.jpg

    Issue 70. Oh boy oh boy oh boy! I can't wait. I'm gonna get me like 20 of these! First to find and post a photo of the actual model and diorama, wins a cookie!

    :) cant wait for the cookie!
    Although this isn't really a bond car, i see where you coming from, its a nice car a should be a nice issue!

    By the way, you might want to edit your post and take out the both sides of the image.  Because posting of MGM Copyrighted images is not allowed on these forums for some reason X-( . Dont worry, i'v done it i few times without thinking. {[]
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  • 84208420 Posts: 721MI6 Agent
    Does anyone know what movie it is from? :s
  • ak007ak007 LondonPosts: 343MI6 Agent
    octopussy
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  • 84208420 Posts: 721MI6 Agent
    Thanks for the replie :)
  • Rainier WolfcastleRainier Wolfcastle Posts: 484MI6 Agent
    If the list on page 47 is correct we will get two Land Rover 90's from TLD but not the Range Rover convertible from Octopussy. :s (*dream* accompanied by the horse trailer with mini-jet as a final present to us subscribers ...)

    I am not a particular fan of the BMW police car, and least of all I need the new Ford Mondeo. Thought that this was one of the worst scenes in CR - pure commercial cinematography. Quite surprising that the car didn't sport "The New Mondeo" numberplates ...

    What I would also like to see is the Russian (ZIL?) limousine from CR (diorama with the policemen standing behind the car but the trunk not yet opened to avoid showing the corpses). That's an exotic car of which no 1/43 model is available unlike so many others in the collection (the MGB, the Diablo, the GT40 which are all boring. If another DAD car then I would have done the yellow F348 standing in the rice field, damaged with open door, the Diablo and the helicopter in the background. The taller moonbuggy lid could be re-used. At least it would make an interesting display for a car with only seconds of screen-time.)

    I cannot get enough of the Lotus Esprit (the most beautiful of all Bond cars, period. - If you didn't know that already) so the white Turbo from FYEO is terribly missing. Although AutoArt made a 1/43 Turbo Esprit which captures the shape of the car far better, it is unfortunately only available in pearlescent white.

    And finally I would also like to see a Lincoln Continental 4-door convertible from the end of Goldfinger, and the Continental Executive Limousine from the Thunderball PTS (which is too long to fit inside the regular box). I don't know, even though Goldfinger and Thunderball are not much more than 1960's Ford commercials {:), I find the product placement not anywhere as annoying as in the current films. Perhaps because the Mustang and Continental (even the 4-seat Thunderbird) were style icons, truly outstanding cars of the time, while the Mondeo and Ka are nothing special?
  • LegomanLegoman PerthPosts: 89MI6 Agent
    If the list on page 47 is correct we will get two Land Rover 90's from TLD but not the Range Rover convertible from Octopussy. :s (*dream* accompanied by the horse trailer with mini-jet as a final present to us subscribers ...)
    That's an excellent idea! You have my permission to press the publishers to do it.
    I am not a particular fan of the BMW police car
    That's okay, I realise I'm going to be on my own about the BMW police cars. I'm just a rabid BMW E28 fan (I drive an M535i) and so it has special significance for me, but I realise it's just an old BMW to most.

    least of all I need the new Ford Mondeo.
    Couldn't agree with you more. I cannot think of a duller model they could produce quite frankly. Regardless of whether it's a new model or not, it's a mass produced rep-mobile. Where's the interest?
    Thought that this was one of the worst scenes in CR - pure commercial cinematography.
    Yep. Product placement overload. That was the whole movie in fact. Sony Ericsson, Sony Vaio, Virgin Atlantic, FoMoCo etc. Best thing about Casino Royale was the 3 seconds of Alessandra Ambrosio's ass in a pleated tennis skirt :o
    I cannot get enough of the Lotus Esprit (the most beautiful of all Bond cars, period.
    Yep, I'm with ya there too. My favourite model I think until the BMW police car comes along is going to end up being the winterised bronze Lotus Esprit of FYEO. Love the car, love the diorama scene, love the gold BBS wheels, love the printing on the tyre walls, love the skis on the back, love the tracks in the snow... it's the best so far.
  • Rainier WolfcastleRainier Wolfcastle Posts: 484MI6 Agent
    Legoman wrote:
    I am not a particular fan of the BMW police car
    That's okay, I realise I'm going to be on my own about the BMW police cars. I'm just a rabid BMW E28 fan (I drive an M535i) and so it has special significance for me, but I realise it's just an old BMW to most.

    I see. Yes, an M535 is definately an exciting car although I have never found the E28 particularly attractive. But I was a big fan - I still am - of the 6-series (the E34 5-series, however, is still a beautiful car). German cars are too common here for my taste. I always preferred the "exotic every-day" cars (like Lancia, Rover, Saab) over any German car. But in Australia a BMW or Mercedes is perhaps exactly such an "every-day exotic". (On the other hand, I have not once seen a Holden in my life, so that's a far more exotic car than a Lotus, Lamborghini or Aston.)
    But instead of the BMW police car I would rather see any one of the state police and sheriff cars from LALD. Or, if a German car, then no TLD Audi please but the Mercedes W116 S-class from FYEO - was this a 6.9-litre?
    Legoman wrote:
    Yep. Product placement overload. That was the whole movie in fact. Sony Ericsson, Sony Vaio, Virgin Atlantic, FoMoCo etc. Best thing about Casino Royale was the 3 seconds of Alessandra Ambrosio's ass in a pleated tennis skirt :o

    Could it be that you are not the biggest fan of the DC movies? :v
    Me too ... At least he does not have to drive around in the "Property of a Lady", a Z3 ... :))
    Legoman wrote:
    I cannot get enough of the Lotus Esprit (the most beautiful of all Bond cars, period.
    Yep, I'm with ya there too. My favourite model I think until the BMW police car comes along is going to end up being the winterised bronze Lotus Esprit of FYEO. Love the car, love the diorama scene, love the gold BBS wheels, love the printing on the tyre walls, love the skis on the back, love the tracks in the snow... it's the best so far.
    Yes, I like the model and especially the diorama too, but to be honest, the car's proportions are not the best (there are some lemons, worst is the Z8 which looks more like a Fiat Barchetta with its small wheels). The Esprit Turbo from Minichamps is far better, and the AutoArt (although only in pearl white) tops all. But the dioramas add so much to the models that the better Minichamps cars in their plain boxes pale by comparison - and that for a much higher price!

    BTW: The Esprit model does not have BBS wheels but the early Compomotive 3-piece rims with four lug nuts, as in the film. {[] The similar looking BBS wheels were introduced later during production. This summer a white-with-red 1981 Turbo Esprit with brown interior, overhead radio and the rare Compomotive wheels - all exactly as in the film except for LHD - was for sale on Ebay Germany! Amazing car and not too expensive as it was sold within three days.
    Legoman wrote:
    We won't be getting any models from Never Say Never Again will we? ... Barbara Carrera's Renault 5 Turbo being the jewel in the crown
    Yes, I would also like to see cars from NSNA: the mid-engine Renault 5 Turbo 2 is a fantastic car, and there is also a black late-70's Camaro that I remember.
  • LegomanLegoman PerthPosts: 89MI6 Agent
    I see. Yes, an M535i is definately an exciting car although I have never found the E28 particularly attractive.
    You're not alone. The box-on-wheels square rigger styling with all the aerodynamic qualities of a barn door are not for everyone that's for sure. I have to admit that I thought the 5 series to be by far the ugliest of all the 80s family BMW designs too. It wasn't until I actually found myself owning one (and even then only the fully tupperwared up M535i) that I began to appreciate them. If I'm being really honest, I still don't think the completely standard base models as they left the factory are particularly good looking cars either. They do benefit from a bit of owner tweaking. Lowered suspension, wider tyres, nice rims etc. That said, if you fall in love with the higher specc'd model of a series, then you naturally develop an interest in the lower base models too from a purely curiosity perspective. That is my interest in the 518 model from Octopussy. It is the absolute base of the E28 range. You can't get any more poverty-pack. As such, it's an interesting model because it's so uninteresting that no-one else in their right mind would choose to model it. And then there's the police pack equipment too. This is my M535i...

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    But I was a big fan - I still am - of the 6-series
    Gulp. I apologise for this but... umm... I have one of those too. Bond didn't drive or get chased by one though! Here's my M635CSi...

    http://www.bmwmregistry.com/detail.php?id=6313
    (the E34 5-series, however, is still a beautiful car).
    A bit heavy in the haunches styling-wise, but yes, not bad.
    But in Australia a BMW or Mercedes is perhaps exactly such an "every-day exotic".
    Back when my two were built, yes, that was very much true. The M535i cost almost as much as a modest house back in 1986, so it was considered exotic indeed. Today though, not the case. BMWs are very "common" (in every meaning of that word)
    (On the other hand, I have not once seen a Holden in my life,
    Consider yourself fortunate.
    so that's a far more exotic car than a Lotus, Lamborghini or Aston.)
    Umm, no.
    Could it be that you are not the biggest fan of the DC movies?
    You would be accurate there.
    worst is the Z8 which looks more like a Fiat Barchetta with its small wheels).
    Yes, the Z8 is atrocious. My immediate impression is that the whole scale is wrong. I have no evidence to support that, but to me the whole car is simply too big for 1/43 scale. It is my least loved too, even though it's a BMW.
    Yes, I would also like to see cars from NSNA: the mid-engine Renault 5 Turbo 2 is a fantastic car, and there is also a black late-70's Camaro that I remember.
    The other baddie chase car is a square headlight Fiat of some description I think like a 131 or something?
  • Rainier WolfcastleRainier Wolfcastle Posts: 484MI6 Agent
    Legoman wrote:
    But I was a big fan - I still am - of the 6-series
    Gulp. I apologise for this but... umm... I have one of those too. Bond didn't drive or get chased by one though! Here's my M635CSi...

    http://www.bmwmregistry.com/detail.php?id=6313

    {[] To quote from 'Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade': "And I even like the colour." But now just don't tell me that you like the Esprit because it looks like an M1 and that you have one of those, too ...
    Legoman wrote:
    (On the other hand, I have not once seen a Holden in my life,
    Consider yourself fortunate.
    Can't be that bad. I had to endure all those Austins, Morris, and Simcas in my childhood.:#
    Legoman wrote:
    so that's a far more exotic car than a Lotus, Lamborghini or Aston.)
    Umm, no.
    Not from production numbers of course. But from a European perspective. I see a Lotus Elise every few days (no Esprit though), and a Gallardo or new Aston V8 every few weeks. But I doubt that a single Australian Ford or Holden is in my country.
    Legoman wrote:
    worst is the Z8 which looks more like a Fiat Barchetta with its small wheels).
    Yes, the Z8 is atrocious. My immediate impression is that the whole scale is wrong. I have no evidence to support that, but to me the whole car is simply too big for 1/43 scale. It is my least loved too, even though it's a BMW.

    The doors are too short, and the wheels are too small. I also have the early French models, when Fabbri tested the interest in this collection in France a year earlier, and then stopped after five issues. The early Z8 is from Norev and has much better proportions (the diorama is quite different too). The Universal Hobbies Z8 however has more details (black and red markings on the rockets, BMW emblems on the wheels, separate door handles) but this proves that better details alone don't make a better model if the proportions are wrong. The Norev Z8 looks accurate when compaired with the 1/12 Kyosho Z8.
    Legoman wrote:
    Yes, I would also like to see cars from NSNA: the mid-engine Renault 5 Turbo 2 is a fantastic car, and there is also a black late-70's Camaro that I remember.
    The other baddie chase car is a square headlight Fiat of some description I think like a 131 or something?

    I have just watched the NSNA chase again. I don't know why they had to speed up the film (same as in FYEO). It just looks unrealistic and funny and does nothing to add suspense. The Camaro is a '74 (last year for the small rear window), and the Fiat is a Peugeot 604. Compairing their former state limousine with the lowly Fiat 131 could hurt the feelings of our French members so you may want to edit your post? :)) However, the 604 was styled by Pininfarina and has this certain Italian looks.
  • LegomanLegoman PerthPosts: 89MI6 Agent
    [quote=Rainier Wolfcastle}
    {[] To quote from 'Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade': "And I even like the colour." But now just don't tell me that you like the Esprit because it looks like an M1 and that you have one of those, too ...[/quote]
    No, I do not have an M1, though a converted RHD white one was for sale down here on eBay a couple of months ago. One of only two I know about in the country. There would be a little too much duplication in owning both an M635CSi and an M1 I think. I am happy with just the M6. It's more practical too and better finished, better put together. Less of a bitsa which is how the M1 strikes me whenever I've seen one. I wouldn't say no to a genuine Procar though...
    Can't be that bad. I had to endure all those Austins, Morris, and Simcas in my childhood.:#
    You have Vauxhalls and Opels and Isuzus yeah? Same thing. The only unique model Holden build today is the Commodore. That's why they're referred to as the Commodore Car Company down here. Everything else in their range is a rebadged South East Asian import. Even the Commodore started out as a direct copy of the Opel Commodore (including the name obviously). Holden Torana = Opel Ascona, Holden Gemini = Opel Kadett.
    I have just watched the NSNA chase again. I don't know why they had to speed up the film (same as in FYEO). It just looks unrealistic and funny and does nothing to add suspense.
    Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Speeding up the film does nothing good. It looks especially bad at the good bit when Barbara gets to the hairpin at the bottom of the hill and does the sharp turn avoiding the truck then smoking up the rear tyres to get away again. Really good scene spoilt by sped up film.
  • DokkDokk Posts: 382MI6 Agent
    I would just like to take this time to wish all the Bondaholics a very merry Xmas & all the best for 2009.{[]
  • 84208420 Posts: 721MI6 Agent
    You too Dokk :)
  • ak007ak007 LondonPosts: 343MI6 Agent
    Merry Christmas
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  • bondaholic007bondaholic007 LondonPosts: 878MI6 Agent
    Dokk wrote:
    I would just like to take this time to wish all the Bondaholics a very merry Xmas & all the best for 2009.{[]

    Bondaholic™ :p

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  • LegomanLegoman PerthPosts: 89MI6 Agent
    edited December 2008
    Am I right in saying that when this collection is finished, we will only have one car from FRWL? That seems wrong to me. With 23(?) movies to choose from and 70 issues, there should be a minimum of 3 cars from each movie at least. I know FRWL is a bit light on for decent cars to model, so maybe only 2 in this case, but just the one seems a bit of a rip off. The RR Silver Wraith & Bentley 3.1/2 litre should both be modelled IMHO. Probably the Bentley is most important given that it's the only time JB uses one in the whole series I think despite Ian Flemming choosing it as his prefered make in the books. Would the RR licencing issues complicate the making of a Bentley as well? I wouldn't think so, given that VW own the brand now while BMW own RR.
  • LegomanLegoman PerthPosts: 89MI6 Agent
    I have a "thing" for cutting off the mounting pedestals on the models. Not the diorama bases themselves because they're painted, just the models. I have done it to all mine I've opened so far. To me it makes for a much cleaner and realistic looking model that moves better as well. Cutting the pedestal off however is not easy and I would definitely not recommend it for anyone under the age of 18 at least. I have gone through almost a whole box of band-aids patching myself up from all the cuts. ;%

    I use a single sided razor blade with the model resting on a thick polishing cloth being very careful about where it's being held and what part of the model is bearing the cutting pressure being applied so as to not damage it. So far, my care has paid off and I haven't damaged a single model yet. The moon buggy in DAF was a bit difficult however. Seeing how fragile this model obviously is with the arms and antenna and dish etc, there was no way I was going to be able to cut this pedestal off without a very high chance of breaking it somewhere else. So, I set to work completely dismantling it. With extreme care and patience, it did eventually come completely apart enough for me to cut the pedestal off. I just thought you guys might like to see the moon buggy in its disassembled component form. It comes apart into many more pieces than any other model so far.

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  • DokkDokk Posts: 382MI6 Agent
    Why are there no issue 5 on Ebay??????:)
  • DokkDokk Posts: 382MI6 Agent
    Dokk wrote:
    Why are there no issue 5 on Ebay??????:)

    Oops! that should read 51...too much mulled wine.. hic!!:s
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