Right, I stand corrected
Still, I find it really ridiculous if they actually make it...
I mean: come on, an OYSTER TRUCK?! it's big, ugly and has no use whatsoever exept for being a little comic extra.
I for .... Hope not that they will include this...
"Still, I find it really ridiculous if they actually make it...
I mean: come on, an OYSTER TRUCK?! it's big, ugly and has no use whatsoever exept for being a little comic extra."
To be honest, I agree with you 100%. But here's the problem: Mr. Steed mentioned MULTIPLE rare cars from LALD. One of these is obviously going to be some form of the 1973 Chevy Bel Air or 1973 Chevy Impala. So let's review the other possibilities...
-Sawed-off bus. Cancelled in no uncertain terms.
-1971 Cadillac Fleetwood 60 Special (Kananga's car)...okay, this is a possibility. It's also a fine-looking car. Hopefully this comes out instead of the Oyster Wagon.
-Harley-Davidson 350SS (San Monique Police Motorcycle)...since they already did a chase car for the now-deleted sawed-off bus, I find it VERY difficult to believe that the motorcycles, which played even less of a role, will be made.
-1927 Mack AB Oyster Wagon...Gets more screen time than Kananga's Cadillac and is admittedly a unique model. If they choose to make the '73 Chevy into either a Lousiana Sheriff's car or a Louisiana State Police car, it also makes sense for them to make this.
But here's the problem: Mr. Steed mentioned MULTIPLE rare cars from LALD. One of these is obviously going to be some form of the 1973 Chevy Bel Air or 1973 Chevy Impala. So let's review the other possibilities...
Dalbowski, bear in mind that people do not always express themselves precisely in written form on forums like these and therefore your interpretation of JohnSteed's post is not necessarily what he intended.
He said (post 2150, 17 November) "I don't want to promise the order just yet, but there will be a couple more Rolls-Royces and some rare cars from DAF and LALD."
You have taken the plural "cars" to apply to both DAF and LALD, meaning that each of these movies would contribute at least two cars ... but what if JohnSteed had worded his statement as "... there will be a couple more Rolls-Royces and A COUPLE OF rare cars from DAF and LALD"? Put like that, that would put us square back on the original "last nine" list with one model each to come from DAF and LALD.
I would say that the Ford Country Squire from GF is a definite for the final list as this model was announced WAY back (around the same time as the MR Range Rover which took a long time to finally appear) so research, etc., must have already been invested in this one by now.
There have been only three no-shows so far:
*the decapitated bus from LALD (last listing: Issue N°95), acknowledged as cancelled;
*the AMC Matador Police car from TMWTGG (last listing: Issue N°74);
*the non-gadgets Aston Martin V8 Vantage from TLD (last listing: Issue N°80).
The latter two disappeared off the lists without any acknowledgment of their cancellation. The Matador was a "blink and you miss it" vehicle and the Vantage was a duplication, so speaking for myself I'm glad GE Fabbri opted for other models in place of those two.
Evening all, I had issues 100 and 101 on Sunday ( thanks postie !!!!!! ) love the diorama / pix in the Ford Crown Victoria Police Car.
But, issue 101, the Rolls Royce Silver Cloud II from AVTAK, is about to be pushed into the lake, so shouldn't Bond and Tibbet be in the back ??
But here's the problem: Mr. Steed mentioned MULTIPLE rare cars from LALD. One of these is obviously going to be some form of the 1973 Chevy Bel Air or 1973 Chevy Impala. So let's review the other possibilities...
Dalbowski, bear in mind that people do not always express themselves precisely in written form on forums like these and therefore your interpretation of JohnSteed's post is not necessarily what he intended.
He said (post 2150, 17 November) "I don't want to promise the order just yet, but there will be a couple more Rolls-Royces and some rare cars from DAF and LALD."
You have taken the plural "cars" to apply to both DAF and LALD, meaning that each of these movies would contribute at least two cars ... but what if JohnSteed had worded his statement as "... there will be a couple more Rolls-Royces and A COUPLE OF rare cars from DAF and LALD"? Put like that, that would put us square back on the original "last nine" list with one model each to come from DAF and LALD.
I would say that the Ford Country Squire from GF is a definite for the final list as this model was announced WAY back (around the same time as the MR Range Rover which took a long time to finally appear) so research, etc., must have already been invested in this one by now.
There have been only three no-shows so far:
*the decapitated bus from LALD (last listing: Issue N°95), acknowledged as cancelled;
*the AMC Matador Police car from TMWTGG (last listing: Issue N°74);
*the non-gadgets Aston Martin V8 Vantage from TLD (last listing: Issue N°80).
The latter two disappeared off the lists without any acknowledgment of their cancellation. The Matador was a "blink and you miss it" vehicle and the Vantage was a duplication, so speaking for myself I'm glad GE Fabbri opted for other models in place of those two.
Wow, I actually got the "quote" feature working! Sorry, I'm kind of a tech dinosaur. But I digress. That is true what you say, especially about the research into the '64 Ford Galaxie Country Squire being completely wasted if it goes unreleased, but then recall that we now know Ixo has taken a larger role in the project. Also, the Country Squire's "vinyl wood" panels may have been difficult to replicate. Look at the problems that Minichamps, one of the best in the business, experienced with the exact same material while making the 1958 Edsel Bermuda Station Wagon (Trax Models also took forever to release their 1962 Ford XL Falcon Squire Station Wagon with "vinyl wood" panels).
Yes, I could be misinterpreting what Mr. Steed said. In fact, I honestly hope I am. It would certainly give us a better car series. But I still think certain things were changed around a bit, at least. The last two cancellations you mentioned occurred during a period when Universal Hobbies was making virtually all of the models (with the bus being Fabbri's decision to cancel due to non-detail-related reasons). The grille on the second generation AMC Matador sedan, which served as the basis for the Thai police car, is virtually impossible to get right, even in model kits. Check out a photo of the grille and see what I mean. As for the TLD Astons, both models had taken quite a bit of flak for their detail (or incorrect amount thereof), so cancelling it probably seemed reasonable, given that the moulds would have to be re-done. But there might be new cancellations with a whole new model company (Ixo) now producing a majority of the models.
"Put like that, that would put us square back on the original 'last nine' list with one model each to come from DAF and LALD."
To address this particular point, it's possible, I'll give you that, but also not definite. Another thing to remember is that MANY people use the phrase "a couple" to refer to more than two things (three or four, sometimes, in the American and Canadian vernaculars). But even allowing for literal use, the reason I think at least one Rolls-Royce was added is because it was clear that the Silver Cloud II from AVTAK was already in existence. By the time Mr. Steed posted, not only was it promised as the next model on the back of Magazine 100, but I'd put up photographs of it sitting on my layout. If he's saying "I can't promise you this car will come out," when not only has it indeed been promised to come out AND I (and now several others) physically have an example of this model, then that's patently absurd. In other words, at least ONE model was replaced if he's promising even a literal "couple" of Rolls-Royces. Now, what that model is is anyone's guess. But I also thought the lack of mentioning an Aston-Martin was surprising, given that the QoS DBS V12 with damage is supposed to be No. 110. Of course, perhaps the 1989 Ford Bronco II was deleted, given its difficult-to-replicate paint scheme and extreme wear. Or maybe they just got never got the "vinyl wood" on the Country Squire correct (which I REALLY hope is not the case). Either way, from the way Mr. Steed worded it, I do think there will be at least one change and one new Rolls-Royce (although what that will be is anyone's guess).
Has anyone whos asked for one, received a replacement for the Anglia yet? I phoned, was promised one.... but no show yet. Just wondering......
I emailed the Australian distributor recently, after receiving the model. I was told that the manufacturer is aware of the problem and a replacement would be sent at a later date. No more details...
After the Bondola we've only got a few cars left. I don't want to promise the order just yet, but there will be a couple more Rolls-Royces and some rare cars from DAF and LALD.
With only eight issues remaining after the Bondola, I think that "a couple more Rolls-Royces" will be only two - the OHMSS Silver Shadow convertible and the FRWL Silver Wraith. (I don't think that we will get another Silver Shadow II, from LTK, after such a short time.)
That leaves six issues for "some rare cars from DAF and LALD" but I doubt that all six will be from these two films: My bet for DAF is on the Ford Econoline and the blue/white Las Vegas Police Ford (not the Sheriff's car as we had two black/white police cars already). Although not strictly a "rare car", perhaps we will see the Honda tricycle from the Moonbuggy chase?
From LALD the JBCC article on Wikipedia lists Harold Strutter's Impala Custom Coupe. This is not an obvious choice when making up a list, so I wonder where that came from? FabbriLeaks? My choice would be Sheriff Pepper's car (and the Louisiana State Trooper next) - so will we see both a 4-door and a "rare" 2-door Impala? I wouldn't mind getting both Pepper's car and the State Trooper but four police vehicles in the last ten may be too repetitive.
What I would also like to see:
Ford Country Squire from GF - the simulated wood panels should not be a problem - Corgi managed that 45 years ago on their Ford Consul estate
BSA motorcycle from TB
Audi 200 Avant from LTK
Lincoln Mk VII from LTK
Dodge Ram from LTK - none of the LTK cars is available elsewhere in 1:43!
BMW R1200C motorcycle from TWINE
Aston Martin DBS (damaged) - this should be the final issue as it is from the last film and would make a special model.
Well, this would bring us beyond the 110 mark already (even without oyster trucks or DB5's from GE, TND, CR) ...
I got the confirmation from the German distributor that for Germany the collection will continue to 110 (still showing only 85 on the website). France has ended with issue 85, so there must still be lots of subscribers in the UK and the German-speaking countries staying to the "bitter end". Enough to expand the collection once more to an even 120?
In france they actually stopped at a weird number of 84. I phoned the people in the netherlands, and it is stíll in a cloud of mistery whether or not they'll continue, so i'm afraid that the poor Dutchies will also have to go and look on ebay for the numbers 86-110...
"Corgi managed that 45 years ago on their Ford Consul estate"
Yeah, and I actually have that car in blue. It's really nice, but not at all on the same level of detail as you'd expect from a model car made in 2010 or 2011.
Well, it's all a matter of the expectations you have. For £8 I don't expect as much as on a Minichamps for £35. If the wood trim would look basically like the "really nice" one from the old Corgi, I would not be too disappointed on an £8 model.
However, "the level of detail you'd expect" is the only way left Minichamps or similar can justify their prices which are three, four ... even ten times higher than for basic diecast cars. And it's something that journalists can dwell upon when introducing the new models in their magazines: "Minichamps has even reproduced the tiny screws on the wooden side panels" (they really have on the Edsel!).
Of course it doesn't hurt that Minichamps has bought the pricy back cover ads for the whole year and probably will do so again next year. But, the competitor also pays a - less expensive - full-page ad inside ... so the text for their model has to be a little less enthusiastic: "The side marker lights are just painted on, and the headlights are chromed without a separate clear plastic cover. Excellent value though for the price range." And it always sounds more professional to point out a detail that's excellent or terrible or absent, than to say that something is somehow wrong with the shape somewhere.
Therefore we have now an overemphasis (from both manufacturers and collectors) on the level of detail but models now often fail on the basic level of just looking "right". You mentioned Oddjob's Ranchero (which I wouldn't have noticed as I only know the car from the few seconds in Goldfinger) ... I picked the Audi V8 disguised as a 200.
I could also add the Esprit S1 and Turbos, as wheel and tyre sizes of these are wrong. I didn't notice this right away (the dioramas much improve the appearance of the cars) but something just didn't look right. (As the Esprit is my favourite car I may be fussy here, though.)
I would prefer models that look right but have some details simplified or omitted if necessary to cut costs (e.g. on the Turbo Esprit I would rather have no Goodyear print on the tyres, and taillights just moulded in red instead of three colours, but with correct, different wheel and tyre sizes front and rear).
If I sound too critical to the JBCC, that's not my intention. I am glad this collection exists and I am a proud owner of all issues to date and will continue to collect them all. Everyone of us would have done a little bit different and chosen a few other cars instead of some but the cars are excellent value at £8, and models that look strange or have errors can also be found in a much higher price range, like (concentrating on Bond cars) Minichamps' Mach 1 (front wheel stance, looks as if it is braking hard), Z3 (wrong wheels, should be 5-spoke) or Esprit S1 (smaller rear wheels than front - Fabbri's Esprit has the same error so I wonder how the research went on this one: Minichamps photographing one with space-saver spare wheels, and Fabbri buying a Minichamps and a ruler?).
Well, it's all a matter of the expectations you have. For £8 I don't expect as much as on a Minichamps for £35. If the wood trim would look basically like the "really nice" one from the old Corgi, I would not be too disappointed on an £8 model.
However, "the level of detail you'd expect" is the only way left Minichamps or similar can justify their prices which are three, four ... even ten times higher than for basic diecast cars. And it's something that journalists can dwell upon when introducing the new models in their magazines: "Minichamps has even reproduced the tiny screws on the wooden side panels" (they really have on the Edsel!).
Of course it doesn't hurt that Minichamps has bought the pricy back cover ads for the whole year and probably will do so again next year. But, the competitor also pays a - less expensive - full-page ad inside ... so the text for their model has to be a little less enthusiastic: "The side marker lights are just painted on, and the headlights are chromed without a separate clear plastic cover. Excellent value though for the price range." And it always sounds more professional to point out a detail that's excellent or terrible or absent, than to say that something is somehow wrong with the shape somewhere.
Therefore we have now an overemphasis (from both manufacturers and collectors) on the level of detail but models now often fail on the basic level of just looking "right". You mentioned Oddjob's Ranchero (which I wouldn't have noticed as I only know the car from the few seconds in Goldfinger) ... I picked the Audi V8 disguised as a 200.
I could also add the Esprit S1 and Turbos, as wheel and tyre sizes of these are wrong. I didn't notice this right away (the dioramas much improve the appearance of the cars) but something just didn't look right. (As the Esprit is my favourite car I may be fussy here, though.)
I would prefer models that look right but have some details simplified or omitted if necessary to cut costs (e.g. on the Turbo Esprit I would rather have no Goodyear print on the tyres, and taillights just moulded in red instead of three colours, but with correct, different wheel and tyre sizes front and rear).
If I sound too critical to the JBCC, that's not my intention. I am glad this collection exists and I am a proud owner of all issues to date and will continue to collect them all. Everyone of us would have done a little bit different and chosen a few other cars instead of some but the cars are excellent value at £8, and models that look strange or have errors can also be found in a much higher price range, like (concentrating on Bond cars) Minichamps' Mach 1 (front wheel stance, looks as if it is braking hard), Z3 (wrong wheels, should be 5-spoke) or Esprit S1 (smaller rear wheels than front - Fabbri's Esprit has the same error so I wonder how the research went on this one: Minichamps photographing one with space-saver spare wheels, and Fabbri buying a Minichamps and a ruler?).
I have to say I don't expect a great deal from these models when I buy them simply because of their price compared to the likes of Minichamps, of which I also have quite a few. I have had to return one or two JBCC models where I thought the flaws were unacceptable (bent windscreen pillar on one, gap between the glazing and bodywork on another) but for the most part tend to overlook ill fitting mirrors, off-target tampo printing, sticky-out wheels and so on. Apart from the budget price of these models, they have a charm all of their own with the dioramas and backgrounds which tends to outweigh any gripes in the finish. It's just good to see such obscure models produced at all. I didn't even have a great problem with Oddjob's Ranchero because its cartoon appearance made me laugh when I saw it!
I really hope that when this collection ends Fabbri will come up with something just as intriguing. As a 'MovieCarFan' it would be brilliant to see a new series based on general movie vehicles, which I guess could even re-visit Bond, but I bet all the various licences involved would be too prohibitive. Maybe a TV related series would be possible - not just the classics like of Dukes of Hazzard, Batman, Avengers, Man From UNCLE etc but maybe more current shows like the CSI series, Desperate Housewives (Aston Martin, Maserati), Top Gear - maybe even Band of Brothers!
"However, "the level of detail you'd expect" is the only way left Minichamps or similar can justify their prices which are three, four ... even ten times higher than for basic diecast cars. And it's something that journalists can dwell upon when introducing the new models in their magazines: "Minichamps has even reproduced the tiny screws on the wooden side panels" (they really have on the Edsel!)."
Yeah, but it's not just Minichamps or high-priced models. You did misinterpret my post, though, seemingly; I just used the Edsel as an example of how difficult even a manufacturer known for its quality (which has produced some turkeys, as you pointed out, but then try and find a company...ANY company...that hasn't) was to produce simulated wood panels. But even then, using soft plastic, mono-color, mono-texture simulated wood body panels is something that's unacceptable even on a model that costs $10 USD these days, period. In the early 1960's, they had the excuse of lacking the technical know-how to get it right. I've since done some research and I found that Yat Ming's Road Signature series released a a 1948 Ford Station Wagon with simulated real wood panels for $10 USD. It actually looks pretty decent. That's LESS MONEY than the JBCC. But you know what? It was delayed by a few years in its release until they got it to look right. Road Champs did a '49 Ford Woody for a little under $15 USD. Same problem. Woodies and simulated woodies just aren't easy to do, no matter what the price.
Incidentally, if I really DID want to point out a really high-priced error (not counting many Brooklin models, as these were and are clearly meant to be detailed later with regard to chrome in many cases), it would be with NEO's 1/43 GAZ-21 and GAZ-22 Volgas. They copied the Scaldia-Volga Luxe Diesel in the case of the former and the Scaldia-Volga Combi Luxe in the case of the latter. These Belgian-assembled cars from Soviet-made kits had different door assemblies and suspensions as well as interiors and trim than their Soviet-assembled counterparts. That's all fine and good, but they also gave the cars Soviet numberplates. I just put decals with Belgian and Dutch numberplates over them.
"but for the most part tend to overlook ill fitting mirrors, off-target tampo printing, sticky-out wheels and so on."
If you yourself have the know-how to re-paint/reassemble these models, at least two of these things can be fixed (tampo printing you're generally stuck with). Be careful when dealing with the wheels, though. You don't want to press them in TOO much. Ill-fitting mirrors are easy to correct, though: just pull them out, shave off a tiny bit of plastic at a time, and re-insert.
Does anyone have a favourite movie as far this collection goes?- personally I think the Octopussy set of vehicles are the best, with a wide variety (including a jet and tuk tuk) and some great dioramas such as the Alfa and the Merc.
Christmas Ramblings from the rhino enclosure: ==================================
Well, that's amazing! Congratulations to Royal Mail.
The postman has just turned up at my door, on foot in the dark, through snow and ice, at 4:57pm on Christmas Eve with issues 100 + 101 and a big smile on his face. Well done, that man!
Yahoo! I will get a Rolls Royce for Christmas, after all ... ding dong merrily, that's what I say.
Seasons Greetings to all subscribers and members, keep posting guys! I am planning a really massive page-long post in the New Year to keep Dalkowski110 quiet for a day or two, lol. (Only joking, Dalky, have a good one!)
Do we say 'lol' on this forum or are we above all that? Lol is actually a scaled down version of 'Laugh Out Loud' (about 3:14), a larger-sized more amusing version being Rofl which is a 2:13 scale version of 'Roll on the Floor Laughing'.
Keep smiling, guys, we are counting down ... btw I got a letter with the delivery confirming it's every 8 weeks!! * That means ... W
'W' is a 1:43 scale version of 'well, we'll still be on here in the summer!'
Cheers, on the sherry tonight,
Rhinoman B-) -{
* for subscribers, at two issues per delivery. The individual issues are published every 4 weeks. I know we've said this before, but didn't want to spark any uncertainty and 'huh, watcha mean mate?' posts. Have decided sherry makes you very specific and logical. R
Happy 2011 to everyone on here.....Ive been collecting the JBCC from day 1, so I have all the models right up to issue 101 so far. My main question is ,does any one know why they haven't produced the Ford Mondeo from Casino Royale .This would be a great addition to the collection. Thanks
Just over 3 weeks til the Bondola! Can't wait to see this. Hopefully some leaked images will appear any day. What scale do we all reckon it will be? It's the beginning of the end for the JBCC 8-)
"Just over 3 weeks til the Bondola! Can't wait to see this. Hopefully some leaked images will appear any day. What scale do we all reckon it will be? It's the beginning of the end for the JBCC"
What scale? Either 1/43 and "shortened" or 1/50 and spot-on. Personally, I'm really looking forward to the magazine just to see what number 103 is.
"I have on idea how long the real bondol is, but let's assume it is 25ft in length,"
Your average Venetian gondola is about 30-35 feet long (or so I was told...). Let's assume it's 30 feet long. That puts the Bondola at over 8 inches long when done in 1/43 scale. Shrinking it to 1/50 helps a little; it's just about 7 1/4" long. If Ixo does the case, I think it would be feasible. If it's one of the smaller UH cases, then I think it might get a bit "stunted."
Either way, unfortunately, even assuming the Bondola IS going to use a 25-foot model, it still has to use the large, Ixo case. The UH cases aren't quite 6" long.
"I have on idea how long the real bondol is, but let's assume it is 25ft in length,"
Your average Venetian gondola is about 30-35 feet long (or so I was told...). Let's assume it's 30 feet long. That puts the Bondola at over 8 inches long when done in 1/43 scale. Shrinking it to 1/50 helps a little; it's just about 7 1/4" long. If Ixo does the case, I think it would be feasible. If it's one of the smaller UH cases, then I think it might get a bit "stunted."
Either way, unfortunately, even assuming the Bondola IS going to use a 25-foot model, it still has to use the large, Ixo case. The UH cases aren't quite 6" long.
maybe they are going to wind some of you guys up by creating another box size - the size of a large and small box combined?!
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Still, I find it really ridiculous if they actually make it...
I mean: come on, an OYSTER TRUCK?! it's big, ugly and has no use whatsoever exept for being a little comic extra.
I for .... Hope not that they will include this...
I mean: come on, an OYSTER TRUCK?! it's big, ugly and has no use whatsoever exept for being a little comic extra."
To be honest, I agree with you 100%. But here's the problem: Mr. Steed mentioned MULTIPLE rare cars from LALD. One of these is obviously going to be some form of the 1973 Chevy Bel Air or 1973 Chevy Impala. So let's review the other possibilities...
-Sawed-off bus. Cancelled in no uncertain terms.
-1971 Cadillac Fleetwood 60 Special (Kananga's car)...okay, this is a possibility. It's also a fine-looking car. Hopefully this comes out instead of the Oyster Wagon.
-Harley-Davidson 350SS (San Monique Police Motorcycle)...since they already did a chase car for the now-deleted sawed-off bus, I find it VERY difficult to believe that the motorcycles, which played even less of a role, will be made.
-1927 Mack AB Oyster Wagon...Gets more screen time than Kananga's Cadillac and is admittedly a unique model. If they choose to make the '73 Chevy into either a Lousiana Sheriff's car or a Louisiana State Police car, it also makes sense for them to make this.
Dalbowski, bear in mind that people do not always express themselves precisely in written form on forums like these and therefore your interpretation of JohnSteed's post is not necessarily what he intended.
He said (post 2150, 17 November) "I don't want to promise the order just yet, but there will be a couple more Rolls-Royces and some rare cars from DAF and LALD."
You have taken the plural "cars" to apply to both DAF and LALD, meaning that each of these movies would contribute at least two cars ... but what if JohnSteed had worded his statement as "... there will be a couple more Rolls-Royces and A COUPLE OF rare cars from DAF and LALD"? Put like that, that would put us square back on the original "last nine" list with one model each to come from DAF and LALD.
I would say that the Ford Country Squire from GF is a definite for the final list as this model was announced WAY back (around the same time as the MR Range Rover which took a long time to finally appear) so research, etc., must have already been invested in this one by now.
There have been only three no-shows so far:
*the decapitated bus from LALD (last listing: Issue N°95), acknowledged as cancelled;
*the AMC Matador Police car from TMWTGG (last listing: Issue N°74);
*the non-gadgets Aston Martin V8 Vantage from TLD (last listing: Issue N°80).
The latter two disappeared off the lists without any acknowledgment of their cancellation. The Matador was a "blink and you miss it" vehicle and the Vantage was a duplication, so speaking for myself I'm glad GE Fabbri opted for other models in place of those two.
Jim
Wow, I actually got the "quote" feature working! Sorry, I'm kind of a tech dinosaur. But I digress. That is true what you say, especially about the research into the '64 Ford Galaxie Country Squire being completely wasted if it goes unreleased, but then recall that we now know Ixo has taken a larger role in the project. Also, the Country Squire's "vinyl wood" panels may have been difficult to replicate. Look at the problems that Minichamps, one of the best in the business, experienced with the exact same material while making the 1958 Edsel Bermuda Station Wagon (Trax Models also took forever to release their 1962 Ford XL Falcon Squire Station Wagon with "vinyl wood" panels).
Yes, I could be misinterpreting what Mr. Steed said. In fact, I honestly hope I am. It would certainly give us a better car series. But I still think certain things were changed around a bit, at least. The last two cancellations you mentioned occurred during a period when Universal Hobbies was making virtually all of the models (with the bus being Fabbri's decision to cancel due to non-detail-related reasons). The grille on the second generation AMC Matador sedan, which served as the basis for the Thai police car, is virtually impossible to get right, even in model kits. Check out a photo of the grille and see what I mean. As for the TLD Astons, both models had taken quite a bit of flak for their detail (or incorrect amount thereof), so cancelling it probably seemed reasonable, given that the moulds would have to be re-done. But there might be new cancellations with a whole new model company (Ixo) now producing a majority of the models.
"Put like that, that would put us square back on the original 'last nine' list with one model each to come from DAF and LALD."
To address this particular point, it's possible, I'll give you that, but also not definite. Another thing to remember is that MANY people use the phrase "a couple" to refer to more than two things (three or four, sometimes, in the American and Canadian vernaculars). But even allowing for literal use, the reason I think at least one Rolls-Royce was added is because it was clear that the Silver Cloud II from AVTAK was already in existence. By the time Mr. Steed posted, not only was it promised as the next model on the back of Magazine 100, but I'd put up photographs of it sitting on my layout. If he's saying "I can't promise you this car will come out," when not only has it indeed been promised to come out AND I (and now several others) physically have an example of this model, then that's patently absurd. In other words, at least ONE model was replaced if he's promising even a literal "couple" of Rolls-Royces. Now, what that model is is anyone's guess. But I also thought the lack of mentioning an Aston-Martin was surprising, given that the QoS DBS V12 with damage is supposed to be No. 110. Of course, perhaps the 1989 Ford Bronco II was deleted, given its difficult-to-replicate paint scheme and extreme wear. Or maybe they just got never got the "vinyl wood" on the Country Squire correct (which I REALLY hope is not the case). Either way, from the way Mr. Steed worded it, I do think there will be at least one change and one new Rolls-Royce (although what that will be is anyone's guess).
I emailed the Australian distributor recently, after receiving the model. I was told that the manufacturer is aware of the problem and a replacement would be sent at a later date. No more details...
With only eight issues remaining after the Bondola, I think that "a couple more Rolls-Royces" will be only two - the OHMSS Silver Shadow convertible and the FRWL Silver Wraith. (I don't think that we will get another Silver Shadow II, from LTK, after such a short time.)
That leaves six issues for "some rare cars from DAF and LALD" but I doubt that all six will be from these two films: My bet for DAF is on the Ford Econoline and the blue/white Las Vegas Police Ford (not the Sheriff's car as we had two black/white police cars already). Although not strictly a "rare car", perhaps we will see the Honda tricycle from the Moonbuggy chase?
From LALD the JBCC article on Wikipedia lists Harold Strutter's Impala Custom Coupe. This is not an obvious choice when making up a list, so I wonder where that came from? FabbriLeaks? My choice would be Sheriff Pepper's car (and the Louisiana State Trooper next) - so will we see both a 4-door and a "rare" 2-door Impala? I wouldn't mind getting both Pepper's car and the State Trooper but four police vehicles in the last ten may be too repetitive.
What I would also like to see:
Ford Country Squire from GF - the simulated wood panels should not be a problem - Corgi managed that 45 years ago on their Ford Consul estate
BSA motorcycle from TB
Audi 200 Avant from LTK
Lincoln Mk VII from LTK
Dodge Ram from LTK - none of the LTK cars is available elsewhere in 1:43!
BMW R1200C motorcycle from TWINE
Aston Martin DBS (damaged) - this should be the final issue as it is from the last film and would make a special model.
Well, this would bring us beyond the 110 mark already (even without oyster trucks or DB5's from GE, TND, CR) ...
I got the confirmation from the German distributor that for Germany the collection will continue to 110 (still showing only 85 on the website). France has ended with issue 85, so there must still be lots of subscribers in the UK and the German-speaking countries staying to the "bitter end". Enough to expand the collection once more to an even 120?
To be continued
Yeah, and I actually have that car in blue. It's really nice, but not at all on the same level of detail as you'd expect from a model car made in 2010 or 2011.
However, "the level of detail you'd expect" is the only way left Minichamps or similar can justify their prices which are three, four ... even ten times higher than for basic diecast cars. And it's something that journalists can dwell upon when introducing the new models in their magazines: "Minichamps has even reproduced the tiny screws on the wooden side panels" (they really have on the Edsel!).
Of course it doesn't hurt that Minichamps has bought the pricy back cover ads for the whole year and probably will do so again next year. But, the competitor also pays a - less expensive - full-page ad inside ... so the text for their model has to be a little less enthusiastic: "The side marker lights are just painted on, and the headlights are chromed without a separate clear plastic cover. Excellent value though for the price range." And it always sounds more professional to point out a detail that's excellent or terrible or absent, than to say that something is somehow wrong with the shape somewhere.
Therefore we have now an overemphasis (from both manufacturers and collectors) on the level of detail but models now often fail on the basic level of just looking "right". You mentioned Oddjob's Ranchero (which I wouldn't have noticed as I only know the car from the few seconds in Goldfinger) ... I picked the Audi V8 disguised as a 200.
I could also add the Esprit S1 and Turbos, as wheel and tyre sizes of these are wrong. I didn't notice this right away (the dioramas much improve the appearance of the cars) but something just didn't look right. (As the Esprit is my favourite car I may be fussy here, though.)
I would prefer models that look right but have some details simplified or omitted if necessary to cut costs (e.g. on the Turbo Esprit I would rather have no Goodyear print on the tyres, and taillights just moulded in red instead of three colours, but with correct, different wheel and tyre sizes front and rear).
If I sound too critical to the JBCC, that's not my intention. I am glad this collection exists and I am a proud owner of all issues to date and will continue to collect them all. Everyone of us would have done a little bit different and chosen a few other cars instead of some but the cars are excellent value at £8, and models that look strange or have errors can also be found in a much higher price range, like (concentrating on Bond cars) Minichamps' Mach 1 (front wheel stance, looks as if it is braking hard), Z3 (wrong wheels, should be 5-spoke) or Esprit S1 (smaller rear wheels than front - Fabbri's Esprit has the same error so I wonder how the research went on this one: Minichamps photographing one with space-saver spare wheels, and Fabbri buying a Minichamps and a ruler?).
I have to say I don't expect a great deal from these models when I buy them simply because of their price compared to the likes of Minichamps, of which I also have quite a few. I have had to return one or two JBCC models where I thought the flaws were unacceptable (bent windscreen pillar on one, gap between the glazing and bodywork on another) but for the most part tend to overlook ill fitting mirrors, off-target tampo printing, sticky-out wheels and so on. Apart from the budget price of these models, they have a charm all of their own with the dioramas and backgrounds which tends to outweigh any gripes in the finish. It's just good to see such obscure models produced at all. I didn't even have a great problem with Oddjob's Ranchero because its cartoon appearance made me laugh when I saw it!
I really hope that when this collection ends Fabbri will come up with something just as intriguing. As a 'MovieCarFan' it would be brilliant to see a new series based on general movie vehicles, which I guess could even re-visit Bond, but I bet all the various licences involved would be too prohibitive. Maybe a TV related series would be possible - not just the classics like of Dukes of Hazzard, Batman, Avengers, Man From UNCLE etc but maybe more current shows like the CSI series, Desperate Housewives (Aston Martin, Maserati), Top Gear - maybe even Band of Brothers!
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Yeah, but it's not just Minichamps or high-priced models. You did misinterpret my post, though, seemingly; I just used the Edsel as an example of how difficult even a manufacturer known for its quality (which has produced some turkeys, as you pointed out, but then try and find a company...ANY company...that hasn't) was to produce simulated wood panels. But even then, using soft plastic, mono-color, mono-texture simulated wood body panels is something that's unacceptable even on a model that costs $10 USD these days, period. In the early 1960's, they had the excuse of lacking the technical know-how to get it right. I've since done some research and I found that Yat Ming's Road Signature series released a a 1948 Ford Station Wagon with simulated real wood panels for $10 USD. It actually looks pretty decent. That's LESS MONEY than the JBCC. But you know what? It was delayed by a few years in its release until they got it to look right. Road Champs did a '49 Ford Woody for a little under $15 USD. Same problem. Woodies and simulated woodies just aren't easy to do, no matter what the price.
Incidentally, if I really DID want to point out a really high-priced error (not counting many Brooklin models, as these were and are clearly meant to be detailed later with regard to chrome in many cases), it would be with NEO's 1/43 GAZ-21 and GAZ-22 Volgas. They copied the Scaldia-Volga Luxe Diesel in the case of the former and the Scaldia-Volga Combi Luxe in the case of the latter. These Belgian-assembled cars from Soviet-made kits had different door assemblies and suspensions as well as interiors and trim than their Soviet-assembled counterparts. That's all fine and good, but they also gave the cars Soviet numberplates. I just put decals with Belgian and Dutch numberplates over them.
If you yourself have the know-how to re-paint/reassemble these models, at least two of these things can be fixed (tampo printing you're generally stuck with). Be careful when dealing with the wheels, though. You don't want to press them in TOO much. Ill-fitting mirrors are easy to correct, though: just pull them out, shave off a tiny bit of plastic at a time, and re-insert.
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Well, that's amazing! Congratulations to Royal Mail.
The postman has just turned up at my door, on foot in the dark, through snow and ice, at 4:57pm on Christmas Eve with issues 100 + 101 and a big smile on his face. Well done, that man!
Yahoo! I will get a Rolls Royce for Christmas, after all ... ding dong merrily, that's what I say.
Seasons Greetings to all subscribers and members, keep posting guys! I am planning a really massive page-long post in the New Year to keep Dalkowski110 quiet for a day or two, lol. (Only joking, Dalky, have a good one!)
Do we say 'lol' on this forum or are we above all that? Lol is actually a scaled down version of 'Laugh Out Loud' (about 3:14), a larger-sized more amusing version being Rofl which is a 2:13 scale version of 'Roll on the Floor Laughing'.
Keep smiling, guys, we are counting down ... btw I got a letter with the delivery confirming it's every 8 weeks!! * That means ... W
'W' is a 1:43 scale version of 'well, we'll still be on here in the summer!'
Cheers, on the sherry tonight,
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* for subscribers, at two issues per delivery. The individual issues are published every 4 weeks. I know we've said this before, but didn't want to spark any uncertainty and 'huh, watcha mean mate?' posts. Have decided sherry makes you very specific and logical. R
What scale? Either 1/43 and "shortened" or 1/50 and spot-on. Personally, I'm really looking forward to the magazine just to see what number 103 is.
that would make a model at 1/43 scale 177.2mm or 6.976inch long
or at 1/50 scale it would be 152.4mm or 6inch long.
Your average Venetian gondola is about 30-35 feet long (or so I was told...). Let's assume it's 30 feet long. That puts the Bondola at over 8 inches long when done in 1/43 scale. Shrinking it to 1/50 helps a little; it's just about 7 1/4" long. If Ixo does the case, I think it would be feasible. If it's one of the smaller UH cases, then I think it might get a bit "stunted."
Either way, unfortunately, even assuming the Bondola IS going to use a 25-foot model, it still has to use the large, Ixo case. The UH cases aren't quite 6" long.
maybe they are going to wind some of you guys up by creating another box size - the size of a large and small box combined?!