James Bond Car Collection - Questions and praise

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  • MovieCarFanMovieCarFan Posts: 973MI6 Agent
    Can anybody on the forum post some decent photos of the Country Squire??
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Can anybody on the forum post some decent photos of the Country Squire??


    I will as soon as I can find some!
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
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    Here is a picture posted on another bulletin board taken from an Ebay seller who had 3 and all sold quickly. Is this #109?

    If it is - does the factory leakage and the strange look of the front wheel suggest that this is UH made? I can see a big demand for this from car collectors.
  • FACTFACT Station ZPosts: 320MI6 Agent
    edited April 2011
    maz wrote:
    Here is a picture posted on another bulletin board taken from an Ebay seller who had 3 and all sold quickly. Is this #109?

    If it is - does the factory leakage and the strange look of the front wheel suggest that this is UH made? I can see a big demand for this from car collectors.

    Great find, Maz. That is a model of the dark blue '73 Impala Custom Coupé as seen at the Crocodile Ranch in LALD.
    http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_17920-Chevrolet-Impala-1973.html

    There was some talk that Issue #109 was going to be Agent Strutter's metallic blue '73 Impala Sport Coupé as seen in the Harlem scenes.
    http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_193747-Chevrolet-Impala-1973.html

    I reckon this find settles that question!

    Now, just the DN Consul policecar and the DAF Econoline van that remain unrevealed :)

    EDIT:
    PS. I had the same thought re. UH vs. Ixo when the Bronco (Issue #103) found its way onto eBay a couple of months ago, but that turned out to be an Ixo model - although the ones offered on eBay turned out not to be in the final "dirty" finish.

    PPS. I see we both post on the same US-based 1:43 scale diecast forum :)
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    I'll say this...that might indeed be UH. Check out how the side mirror is attached and also painted turn signals. Definitely cruder than what I'd expect from Ixo, although it may be an Ixo prototype.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Well, THIS is odd: there seem to be two variants of the 1964 Ford Galaxie Country Squire: one WITH the Auric Stud Farms logo and one WITHOUT. It doesn't seem to be a "one-off" type error, either (i.e. where they missed a transfer), as those without the logos are otherwise identical, but have no logo on either one of the front doors. I'm trying to find out more about this, and will keep you posted.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
    The James Bond Car Collection web site gets stranger by the day. First they pull their phone number now the Zil that appeared as a back order a week or so ago has vanished from the page. I wonder if they had cut back the number of models that they ordered and now are getting too few given the interest in some of these models from general collectors like me?

    There is also a longer gap between models appearing through newstrade and getting on Ebay and them allowing you to order a back order as well.

    Just hope that this doesnt mean difficulties ahead for back ordering the Country Squire, Consul, Impala and Econoline all of which are strong wants. But not at Ebay prices...
  • DokkDokk Posts: 382MI6 Agent
    When are the subscribers due to get # 104 & 105..????? I can never keep track of the dates!!... :# -{ :007)
  • yourmovemrbondyourmovemrbond Posts: 61MI6 Agent
    yep, it looks like something is happening at Fabbri....i have had back numbers on order for a while and nothing seems to be getting out.....i have been told that they are building stocks up to start the release in previously ignored countries, hence the short supply of back numbers, but dont know how true this is.........shame its all coming to an end soon, i would keep going for ever............the db5 1:8 scale is a decent replacement and is coming along nicely, but wouldnt a figurine collection( similar to the corgi icons sets) be a fantastic continuation ??
  • crocke007crocke007 Posts: 107MI6 Agent
    i agree "yourmovemrbond" a figurine collection would be great !!
  • james John Smythejames John Smythe Station N, Netherlands Posts: 162MI6 Agent
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    ...and the - presumed - model:
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    Looks nice, if not, "sweet" :D
  • DokkDokk Posts: 382MI6 Agent
    edited April 2011
    Great Pics! J.J.S....thanx for posting. -{ :007)..seeing the #106..sort of sad to be near the end of the collection...it been a up & down collection for the last 4 years.... :( -{ :007)
  • yourmovemrbondyourmovemrbond Posts: 61MI6 Agent
    is this another variation?
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  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited April 2011
    The Ford Consul looks like it's gotten a few "donor" parts...i.e. a prototype (notably the wipers and tires). I had a look at the eBay auction where it's up for sale and I'd bet it is Ixo, despite showing up so early (no base, no diorama, and knowing that Hong Kong hobby dealer, he gets a lot of Ixo before anyone else does...such as the "unweathered" Ford Bronco II). I like it. Very nice detail, typical detailed Ixo interior, and just very good attention to detail (certainly better than the Corgi Vanguards Ford Zephyr from the same era). Ten to one it does NOT come with figures.

    As for the marking on the back of the Galaxie Country Squire, yourmovemrbond, I have NEVER seen that. Does the car have the "Auric Stud Farms" logo or not? Winnie, does your model have this? Also, James John Smythe, your car doesn't appear to have the "Auric Stud Farms" logo. Am I correct about that?

    EDIT: Getting back to that little mark that yourmovemrbond found, it's neither on the movie car nor on any type of Galaxie Country Squire in real life I know about. Really, I have no idea as to what it could be.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • WinnieWinnie Posts: 129MI6 Agent
    JJ Smythe Galaxie does have the "Aurics Stud Farms " lettering on the doors.The lettering is so small on the actual car that it is hard to see with the naked eye,let alone a camera,But I can just about make it out in the picture.As for the mark on the other picture,It appears to me to be a mistake.Looks like half a target to me,perhaps found its way off the transfer sheet by accident?
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    Winnie wrote:
    JJ Smythe Galaxie does have the "Aurics Stud Farms " lettering on the doors.The lettering is so small on the actual car that it is hard to see with the naked eye,let alone a camera,But I can just about make it out in the picture.As for the mark on the other picture,It appears to me to be a mistake.Looks like half a target to me,perhaps found its way off the transfer sheet by accident?

    Winnie, after looking again, I think I see the Auric Stud Farms logo. On the other hand, there are still cars out there that have nothing. If indeed you're right about the "half target" (to me, it looked more like a bow and arrow or stylized airplane, but why quibble over details?) being a transfer error, I'm wondering if they had transfer issues with the logo, which is why some cars have it and some don't (and that's not just my eye...I've asked a few eBay dealers and they say they've gotten a mix).
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • WinnieWinnie Posts: 129MI6 Agent
    By the way,whats the general opinion on the Ford car ,now a good picture has been posted on the forum?
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    "By the way,whats the general opinion on the Ford car ,now a good picture has been posted on the forum?"

    Pretty good model of the Ford Consul. It's missing the whitewalls, but we won't actually know for sure if it has them or not until it comes out, because the tires are pretty clearly "donors." I encourage you to look on eBay for "1/43 scale Ford Consul" for many more pics. I think it's an excellent model; better crafted than the Chevrolet Impala, which has a certain, intangible crudeness about it.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • WinnieWinnie Posts: 129MI6 Agent
    And the Ford Country Squire?
  • DokkDokk Posts: 382MI6 Agent
    "By the way,whats the general opinion on the Ford car ,now a good picture has been posted on the forum?"

    Pretty good model of the Ford Consul. It's missing the whitewalls, but we won't actually know for sure if it has them or not until it comes out, because the tires are pretty clearly "donors." I encourage you to look on eBay for "1/43 scale Ford Consul" for many more pics. I think it's an excellent model; better crafted than the Chevrolet Impala, which has a certain, intangible crudeness about it.

    It doesn't have whitewalls in the movie???..& I have never seen them on a British Ford Consul???...Then again no doubt someone will prove me wrong!...Again!!!!....the picture you see is how I remember them as a boy! :)) -{ :007)
  • james John Smythejames John Smythe Station N, Netherlands Posts: 162MI6 Agent
    http://imcdb.org/i012569.jpg

    There you have it, no whitewalls - unfortunately ;)
  • mazmaz Posts: 227MI6 Agent
    My dad had a Ford Consul of this era with no white sidewalls and white walls were rare on the Consul but commoner on the larger and more expensive Zephyr and Zodiac.
  • DokkDokk Posts: 382MI6 Agent
    maz wrote:
    My dad had a Ford Consul of this era with no white sidewalls and white walls were rare on the Consul but commoner on the larger and more expensive Zephyr and Zodiac.

    White-Walls were more of an American thing..I can't recall seeing any cars on the streets where I came from with these type of tyres. -{ :007)
  • WinnieWinnie Posts: 129MI6 Agent
    My Uncle has a rare Ford Zodiac estate,which he has restored to original condition.It also has white walls.In fact,it has Red,Black&White coloured coach work and come to think of it, looks very similar to the JBBC Country Squire.
  • Leijo007Leijo007 Posts: 106MI6 Agent
    Winnie wrote:
    As for the mark on the other picture,It appears to me to be a mistake.Looks like half a target to me,perhaps found its way off the transfer sheet by accident?

    Looked like a half target to me too!
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    edited May 2011
    "It doesn't have whitewalls in the movie???..& I have never seen them on a British Ford Consul???...Then again no doubt someone will prove me wrong!...Again!!!!....the picture you see is how I remember them as a boy!"

    For some reason, I could've sworn the car in the film featured whitewalls, although of course the REAL Ford Consul lacked them. I'd figured they'd tried to make the Consul look "upscale," but I'm wrong and thankfully, we get a more realistic car as a result.

    The Zephyr I know had optional whitewalls, especially since I rode in one that was imported to the US restored to original condition. I've not seen too many Zodiacs with whitewalls, but have seen pictures on the internet of them.

    "And the Ford Country Squire?"

    Superb in all but two aspects. First off, it's the Ford Galaxie Country Squire, 9-passenger model...I wish Fabbri had called it the Ford Galaxie Country Squire, since this is what it was. There was also a Ford Falcon Country Squire that was much smaller. Slang at the time also dictated that you were driving a "Galaxie wagon" rather than a "Country Squire." But that's a fault of the magazine, not the model. It's a great model of a true oddball car. It has the correct optional roof rack, so points to Ixo for doing this (the $250 Western Models 1959 Ford Galaxie Country Squire has the rack, but is missing the siderails...). The wheels are also correct; they're NOT custom. Although chrome wheel covers were an optional extra, virtually everyone bought them. I've seen sedans, mostly, with these wheels, but I did see at least one wagon with them.

    The side mirror, at the time, was another optional extra. Again, this was one of the differences between granddad's car and the movie car. While you were strongly encouraged to buy one, you didn't have to. It also has no AM radio; again, an optional extra. Also, whitewalls were standard. The car accurately reflects a bottom-of-the-line Galaxie Country Squire with two more expensive features: the roof rack and the Rangoon Red paint scheme (google "Ford Galaxie Country Squire Rangoon Red" and you'll find a few non-Bond examples of the car in this color...it is NOT Poppy Red).

    Now, the innaccuracies: the most glaring are the door handles. They're supposed to be mounted flush with the trim around the "vinylwood" panel. Instead, they're mounted a little too low and interfere with the edge of the panel trim. Another error (maybe?) seems to be the "chunky" nature of the trim around the "vinylwood" immediately aft of the grille. Of course, that could be an optical illusion, as the model I ordered from eBay has yet to arrive. However, from the photos, it looks like they made it a touch too thick.

    Incidentally, for those of you wanting to buy multiple Galaxie Country Squires to do a Code 3 on them, be aware that the rear seat on the 9-passenger wagon could fold down (or be removed by a local mechanic) for extra cargo space. And since Ixo's bottoms screw out very easily, you could basically put anything you wanted in there, I imagine. I also might take advantage of the roof rack. Or paint it a (very) common beige color that most of these wagons I've seen come in.

    "White-Walls were more of an American thing"

    Take a look at some 1960's-1970's footage of Soviet cars and while most of the Moskvitches tend to lack them, a lot of the GAZ-21 and GAZ-22 "Volga" sedans and wagons, respectively, have them if the driver was able to afford them. You'll also see some limos with whitewalls. I know a dealer in the Ukraine whose father was a military officer and who had a GAZ-M21 "second generation" (sharktooth grille...first generation was the knock-off the of the '53 Ford Mainline grille, second generation was "sharktooth," and third was "whalebone" or "whale moustache") with whitewalls.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • Rainier WolfcastleRainier Wolfcastle Posts: 484MI6 Agent
    First off, it's the Ford Galaxie Country Squire, 9-passenger model...I wish Fabbri had called it the Ford Galaxie Country Squire, since this is what it was. There was also a Ford Falcon Country Squire that was much smaller. Slang at the time also dictated that you were driving a "Galaxie wagon" rather than a "Country Squire." But that's a fault of the magazine, not the model.

    I wasn't around at the time but whatever the slang may have been, a "Galaxie Country Squire" was simply not built by Ford. It was not marketed as such, not shown in any brochure, you couldn't find it on the order form or in the dealer showroom. The text on the box "Ford Country Squire" is the only correct name for this car. Of course you could say you were driving a "Galaxie wagon" - just as much as a "Ford Edsel", a "Lincoln Continental Mk II" or a "Ferrari Dino" - but all these cars have never been built with these names.
    Since the '55 Fords the station wagons were grouped in a separate series. The Country Squire always has been the top level for the station wagon series, matching the top-of-the-line trim level of the full-size passenger cars: over the years Fairlane, Fairlane 500, Galaxie, Galaxie 500, and in 1964 the Galaxie 500XL.
    And there is only one Country Squire (no Falcon): Country denoting the full-size wagon, Squire the top trim level (the lesser trim level for the full-size wagons being the Country Sedan, both were available in 6- or 9-seat).
    The Falcon and midsize-Fairlane wagons were the Falcon Squire and Fairlane Squire (Squire again the top trim for wagons, but no Country here).



    The Country Squire seems to be a very good model (except that there are no figures again). But the Consul is a poor choice as it was not very memorable in the film. And although I quite like the Impala Coupe I would have preferred one of the police cars. As the official list only mentioned an "Impala Hard-Top" (not coupe) I was still hoping to the last that we will see Sheriff Pepper's car or a state trooper. I thought that "Hard-Top" could still be a 4-door sedan (as the term is often used incorrectly for cars that do not have a pillarless body), just to distinguish it from the earlier Impala convertible.
  • Dalkowski110Dalkowski110 Posts: 1,314MI6 Agent
    "It was not marketed as such, not shown in any brochure, you couldn't find it on the order form or in the dealer showroom"

    No, but that was what the engineers at Ford actually called it, at least in 1959. Perhaps the name was dropped by 1964, but in 1959, that was what the plant workers actually referred to it as. It was just another option of the Galaxie sold under a different name outside the plant.

    "Of course you could say you were driving a "Galaxie wagon" - just as much as a "Ford Edsel", a "Lincoln Continental Mk II" or a "Ferrari Dino" - but all these cars have never been built with these names. "

    The other cars you mention were not referred by their companies' engineers as such. The Country Squire was referred to as the "Ford Galaxie Country Squire" by the people who built it (something I doubt very much regarding the other cars).

    "Since the '55 Fords the station wagons were grouped in a separate series."

    In terms of marketing, sometimes, but not always. You yourself mentioned the Falcon Squire and Fairlane Squire. In terms of actually being produced, they went down the same assembly lines as the sedans.

    "But the Consul is a poor choice as it was not very memorable in the film."

    I disagree. Good model of the first "good guy" car Bond rode in.

    "And although I quite like the Impala Coupe I would have preferred one of the police cars."

    To shift gears (forgive the horrible pun), I took another look at that model. I actually believe that it is Ixo, judging from the way the parts are fitted. Another one popped up on eBay and this one seemed a bit more advanced past the ptototype stage.
    By the way, are you gonna eat that?
  • DokkDokk Posts: 382MI6 Agent
    edited May 2011
    Has anyone rec'd 104 & 105 thru the post yet????..it seems like ages since I have had any deliveries :( -{ :007)


    UPDATE: 105 has just arrived from manufacturers....& GEF are sorting them out now...still no word on ANGLIA -{ :007)
  • rhinomanrhinoman Lancashire, UKPosts: 67MI6 Agent
    Hi Dokk ... No, no sign just yet of 104 + 105 arriving for subscribers in UK. Will post again if I am the first (although mine is usually a day or two after other people!).
    Cheers,
    Rhinoman B-)
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