Two things TSWLM and Moonraker offer audiences are gorgeous and exotic locations--who doesn't want to see Sardinia and Rio?I know i do.And those sequences were actually filmed on location.Compare them to Graves' Ice Palace.Portions of it may really have been made of ice,but it still looks cheap nonetheless,almost like an advanced form of styrofoam.DAD isn't colorful enough.If Eon wanted to emulate the big productions of the past, then they probably should've found a few more colorful locales in which to set their story.
Damned straight- it's a point I make often about DAD, but it still amazes me: not one member of the principal cast was filmed in any of the locations the film was set in (apart from London; but as a British film that's not much of a stretch!). Korea, Hong Kong, Cuba, Iceland... yup- we didn't see Pierce Brosnan standing in any of them. Spain was a reasonable compromise (although the Dominican Republic as used in Auf Wiedersen Pet is a much better stand-in), but it was hardly exotic stuff.
Iceland could have been great and is a lovely idea- but we didn't see any of it!
Also, Bond and Moneypenny are close, but they're not that close! I don't care that it was merely a simulation, it shouldn't happen. Despite Moneypenny being disappointed that she's never had James, she always kept their relationship semi-professional. The Bond-Moneypenny kiss transcended that boundary, and I thought it was totally unacceptable.
I hated that scene. DAD introduced two love scenes which are still giving me nightmares; the sex scene with Jinx and the VR scene. Those two scenes would have made for a great horror film. ) (I disliked the CR scene for the reasons that you mentioned. I disliked the sex scene with Jinx, because they took a really beautiful woman and made the idea of sleeping with her really unattractive to me. )
And what the hell is with Bond being captured for 14 months? What happened to the ingenious James Bond who always had escape plans A through to Z, always with a gadget that somebody failed to detect? The hero of the film is being made to look weak and incompetent. Sure, Bond isn't meant to be perfect, and he does have some weak points, but incompetence isn't one of them. At the point when Bond was released, I was thinking, if they're going to kill him, just get it over and done with. James Bond being captured, has lost all integrity, all dignity, they may as well finish him off. I have no idea what the writers were thinking when they scripted that one.
I completely agree. I really disliked that Bond was captured in the first place, but if he had to be, then I think he should have escaped. Which would have made for a really interesting film; Bond, presumed dead, goes after the man who captured him, who it turns out has a plan to destroy the world.
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Also, Bond and Moneypenny are close, but they're not that close! I don't care that it was merely a simulation, it shouldn't happen. Despite Moneypenny being disappointed that she's never had James, she always kept their relationship semi-professional. The Bond-Moneypenny kiss transcended that boundary, and I thought it was totally unacceptable.
I hated that scene. DAD introduced two love scenes which are still giving me nightmares; the sex scene with Jinx and the VR scene. Those two scenes would have made for a great horror film. ) (I disliked the CR scene for the reasons that you mentioned. I disliked the sex scene with Jinx, because they took a really beautiful woman and made the idea of sleeping with her really unattractive to me. )
I actually liked the VR scene. Although I agree that Bond and Moneypenny should never be, I do believe that Miss Moneypenny has always had a secret crush on 007. That said, the VR scene did a great job of portraying this idea, and best of all it was VR, so the said scene did not actually take place. The VR is actually a highlight of DAD IMO.
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I actually liked the VR scene. Although I agree that Bond and Moneypenny should never be, I do believe that Miss Moneypenny has always had a secret crush on 007. That said, the VR scene did a great job of portraying this idea, and best of all it was VR, so the said scene did not actually take place. The VR is actually a highlight of DAD IMO.
Yeah I think it's pretty funny too. Got a big laugh in the cinema and that's all you need, really. Nice to see them move the relationship on a bit (and see that under all that bluster Samantha's Penny was the same Penny from the early movies! ). I was actually a bit annoyed that those pestering script extracts all the Bond fansites ran spoiled this scene - of course it's my own fault for reading them!
In all honesty, that film was a mess, but I watched it over 30 times because this was Brosnan's last
Bond film. It was my way of commemorating him. The novel on the other hand, was a pretty good read
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Damned straight- it's a point I make often about DAD, but it still amazes me: not one member of the principal cast was filmed in any of the locations the film was set in (apart from London; but as a British film that's not much of a stretch!). Korea, Hong Kong, Cuba, Iceland... yup- we didn't see Pierce Brosnan standing in any of them. Spain was a reasonable compromise (although the Dominican Republic as used in Auf Wiedersen Pet is a much better stand-in), but it was hardly exotic stuff.
Iceland could have been great and is a lovely idea- but we didn't see any of it!
Its kinda crap, isn't it? But then its a Bond film, and I love those...
The thing that is ok for this film is it did well at the box office.
Films like Licence to Kill, AVTAK and TMWTGG are more embarrasing because they didnt make the money.
I find DAD embarrasing but not to the extent of the ones I mentioned above.
We shouldnt blame the director either, I would put it down to Babs and Wilson, who really are the ones in control, they let it happen.
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I completely agree. I really disliked that Bond was captured in the first place, but if he had to be, then I think he should have escaped. Which would have made for a really interesting film; Bond, presumed dead, goes after the man who captured him, who it turns out has a plan to destroy the world.
I actually liked the VR scene. Although I agree that Bond and Moneypenny should never be, I do believe that Miss Moneypenny has always had a secret crush on 007. That said, the VR scene did a great job of portraying this idea, and best of all it was VR, so the said scene did not actually take place. The VR is actually a highlight of DAD IMO.
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Yeah I think it's pretty funny too. Got a big laugh in the cinema and that's all you need, really. Nice to see them move the relationship on a bit (and see that under all that bluster Samantha's Penny was the same Penny from the early movies!
Bond film. It was my way of commemorating him. The novel on the other hand, was a pretty good read