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  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    You know, of course, qualification will come down to the Scotland vs. Italy match in November

    Ukraine and Georgia are huge games as well. The Ukrainians have already beaten us and Georgia looked pretty handy at Hampden. I still think France and Italy are favourites to go through, but it's in our own hands.
  • SpectreIslandSpectreIsland spectreislandPosts: 274MI6 Agent
    John Drake wrote:
    You know, of course, qualification will come down to the Scotland vs. Italy match in November

    Ukraine and Georgia are huge games as well. The Ukrainians have already beaten us and Georgia looked pretty handy at Hampden. I still think France and Italy are favourites to go through, but it's in our own hands.

    That's the beauty of football. Anything can happen to any team. Love to see Italy and Scotland make it through so we don't have to hear Domenech trash anyone anymore. He's just too arrogant for his own good and I think even the French Federation is aware of it.
  • Moonraker 5Moonraker 5 Ayrshire, ScotlandPosts: 1,821MI6 Agent
    John Drake wrote:
    Ukraine and Georgia are huge games as well. The Ukrainians have already beaten us and Georgia looked pretty handy at Hampden. I still think France and Italy are favourites to go through, but it's in our own hands.
    Still, first time in 57 years... I want France to go through, my default option would be to support France in the absence of Scotland. Do I think we're going to get through? Heck no, I'm Scottish, optimism about our national team isn't in my nature! :D But I think it's doable, and I'm thinking there's a chance...

    Fantastic atmosphere on Wednesday night though. :)
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  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    3-1 against the Ukraine at Hampden. I'm almost beginning to believe it's possible that Scotland could actually qualify for Euro 2008. All we have to do is beat the world champions. That's all. No pressure then. This group is killing me. :))
  • Moonraker 5Moonraker 5 Ayrshire, ScotlandPosts: 1,821MI6 Agent
    John Drake wrote:
    3-1 against the Ukraine at Hampden. I'm almost beginning to believe it's possible that Scotland could actually qualify for Euro 2008. All we have to do is beat the world champions. That's all. No pressure then. This group is killing me. :))
    If we finish top of the group, it just means that the humiliation in Austria-Switzerland will be more severe! :))

    Not that I'm pessimistic or anything :)
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  • SpectreIslandSpectreIsland spectreislandPosts: 274MI6 Agent
    Hi Moonraker 5 and John Drake, you guys should be proud of your country. They've done a bang-up job and are turning heads in Europe. They've alreday gone above and beyond any expectation no matter what happens from here on. They're definitely in the driver's seat for the return match with my fellow countrymen. History is on your side when it comes to playing in Hampden Park. Italy has never won on Scottish soil and Italy also failed to qualify for European Championship after they won the 1982 World Cup even though they still had quality players on that team as well. Italy is also not at its best at the moment and recovery of several key players like Zambrotta and Materazzi will be crucial for Italy. No matter what happens November 17th, all eyes will be focused on your country and deservedly so. It's a dream matchup with the world champions going up against one of the hottest clubs in Europe at the moment. Best of luck and hopes for a sterling match. {[]
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    Guys, I hope that both Italy and Scotland qualify. {[] Not only do I like both Italy and Scotland, but I don't want France to qualify at all. :))
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    Not that I'm pessimistic or anything :)

    That is the natural Scottish outlook on life. Any joy experienced will mean misery is just around the corner. :))
  • SpectreIslandSpectreIsland spectreislandPosts: 274MI6 Agent
    John Drake wrote:
    Not that I'm pessimistic or anything :)

    That is the natural Scottish outlook on life. Any joy experienced will mean misery is just around the corner. :))

    John, my brother TonyDP and I must have Scottish blood as well cause we live with that pessimistic outlook on life everyday, especially now that we're not kids anymore :))
  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,307MI6 Agent
    John Drake wrote:
    Not that I'm pessimistic or anything :)

    That is the natural Scottish outlook on life. Any joy experienced will mean misery is just around the corner. :))

    John, my brother TonyDP and I must have Scottish blood as well cause we live with that pessimistic outlook on life everyday, especially now that we're not kids anymore :))

    No wonder we're such big Sean Connery fans. :))

    As Italian director Sergio Sollima once said, whenever Italians come across a good thing, they'll always find some way to ruin it. He was talking about how the Spaghetti Western was driven into the ground, but it could just as easily apply to our outlook on life. ;)

    I'm not nearly the soccer fan that SpectreIsland is, but in my ideal world I'd love to see Dan's prediction come true: Italy and Scotland qualify and France goes home. Very unlikely, but I'll keep my fingers crossed.
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,467MI6 Agent
    Well England get ambushed by Russia in the second half, the hero and villain of the match being Wayne Rooney who scores a screamer to set us 1-0 up, then fouls on the edge of the penalty box to give Russia a chance to get in the match.

    Russia look like plodders in the first half, then come alive for the second half, exploiting England's fabled complacency. Gerrard is AWOL for most of the match, Owen gets nothing of much, confirming that he only plays well alongside a weaker striker.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

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  • s96024s96024 Posts: 1,519MI6 Agent
    Oh dear. Atleast the rugby team can produce in the big games.
  • Moonraker 5Moonraker 5 Ayrshire, ScotlandPosts: 1,821MI6 Agent
    John Drake wrote:
    That is the natural Scottish outlook on life. Any joy experienced will mean misery is just around the corner. :))
    Well we didn't have to wait long for the misery!
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  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    John Drake wrote:
    That is the natural Scottish outlook on life. Any joy experienced will mean misery is just around the corner. :))
    Well we didn't have to wait long for the misery!

    And it was miserable. What an awful performance. :(
  • dougie007dougie007 FalkirkPosts: 45MI6 Agent
    Aye it wasn't the best - we've still got a chance though - with the Hampden crowd - anything's possible.
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  • Moonraker 5Moonraker 5 Ayrshire, ScotlandPosts: 1,821MI6 Agent
    And if you watched the news over the past half day or so it's only the England result that really matters, we weren't even mentioned on the sports segment I watched on Breakfast this morning.

    Which is why I hope they get absolutely humped at the rubgy this weekend. 'Mon the 'Boks!!
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  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,948MI6 Agent
    And if you watched the news over the past half day or so it's only the England result that really matters, we weren't even mentioned on the sports segment I watched on Breakfast this morning.

    You didn't stick with it very long, then. when I watched it it had an interview with one of the Scottish players; unlike the England coverage.
    Which is why I hope they get absolutely humped at the rubgy this weekend. 'Mon the 'Boks!!

    Charming. I hope Scotland do well.
  • Moonraker 5Moonraker 5 Ayrshire, ScotlandPosts: 1,821MI6 Agent
    emtiem wrote:
    I hope Scotland do well.

    We got knocked out ages ago because we're not good enough.
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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,750Chief of Staff
    emtiem wrote:
    I hope Scotland do well.

    We got knocked out ages ago because we're not good enough.

    Wind and sails suddenly spring to mind ;) :))
    YNWA 97
  • Moonraker 5Moonraker 5 Ayrshire, ScotlandPosts: 1,821MI6 Agent
    edited October 2007
    BBC Sport: Scots close in on England ranking

    Come on now, less of these signs of overt positivity! scotland.gif
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  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    edited October 2007
    BBC Sport: Scots close in on England ranking

    Come on now, less of these signs of overt positivity! scotland.gif

    This is great news. If we keep this ranking, we should be in the 2nd group of seeds for the world cup draw. No more groups of death hopefully.
  • SpectreIslandSpectreIsland spectreislandPosts: 274MI6 Agent
    John Drake wrote:
    BBC Sport: Scots close in on England ranking

    Come on now, less of these signs of overt positivity! scotland.gif

    This is great news. If we keep this ranking, we should be in the 2nd group of seeds for the world cup draw. No more groups of death hopefully.

    John, when it comes to World Cup, they're all groups of death. There are no mattress teams any more. You know as well as I do, in football, anything can happen and it usually does especially in such a pressure cooker as the WC.
  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent

    This is great news. If we keep this ranking, we should be in the 2nd group of seeds for the world cup draw. No more groups of death hopefully.

    John, when it comes to World Cup, they're all groups of death. [/quote]


    Well can we have a group of death next time that doesn't feature both of the World Cup Finalists. You're right; there are no easy games any more, but Italy and France. That draw was just harsh.
  • SpectreIslandSpectreIsland spectreislandPosts: 274MI6 Agent
    John Drake wrote:

    This is great news. If we keep this ranking, we should be in the 2nd group of seeds for the world cup draw. No more groups of death hopefully.

    John, when it comes to World Cup, they're all groups of death.


    Well can we have a group of death next time that doesn't feature both of the World Cup Finalists. You're right; there are no easy games any more, but Italy and France. That draw was just harsh.[/quote]

    John, the draw was no more harsh than the teams Scotland drew in the following:

    WC 1982 - in the same group with Brazil and USSR
    WC 1986 - in the same group with Denmark, West Germany and Uruguay
    WC 1990 - with Brazil once again and Sweden
    WC 1998 - once again with your pals Brazil, Norway and Morocco
    and then in the final phase of Euro 1992 in the same group with Holland and Germany and Euro 1996 with England and Holland.
    You guys gravitate to groups of death :))
  • Moonraker 5Moonraker 5 Ayrshire, ScotlandPosts: 1,821MI6 Agent
    edited October 2007
    WC 1998 - once again with your pals Brazil, Norway and Morocco
    16th June 1998, Scotland 1 - 1 Norway. That's about the only football statistic I could ever rhyme off, because I was in Strathclyde University union waiting on my degree result - and, part way through the first half, they were posted on the notice board. I got hideously drunk that day (out of joy :D )

    Anyway, slightly off topic, but I remember the crackling atmosphere of the Scotland v Brazil match that kicked off the tournament.

    (And of the top of my head, didn't we give Brazil a run for their money, getting beat 2-1, only to get absolutely humped by Morocco? As per usual?)
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  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    16th June 1998, Scotland 1 - 1 Norway. That's about the only football statistic I could ever rhyme off, because I was in Strathclyde University union waiting on my degree result - and, part way through the first half, they were posted on the notice board. I got hideously drunk that day (out of joy :D )

    I got hideously drunk that day too. We got thrown out of a pub because a friend of mine set fire to a Norway flag after they equalised and then decided to hit himself over the head with a bottle. I woke up at 3 in the morning, thinking it was 3 in the afternoon and went out to buy some food. Funnily enough the shops weren't open. Great days.
    Anyway, slightly off topic, but I remember the crackling atmosphere of the Scotland v Brazil match that kicked off the tournament.

    We should have had them. Another heroic failure. It would be nice to have some real success by beating Italy.
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    This is what I want to happen: I want Scotland to beat Italy, Italy to beat Faroe Islands and France to lose to Ukraine. That way both Italy and Scotland qualify and France doesn't. :D
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • SpectreIslandSpectreIsland spectreislandPosts: 274MI6 Agent
    The moment of truth is almost upon us all with Saturday just around the corner. Best of luck to one and all and hoping for safe and exciting matches all around. This has been one of the more interesting Euro campaigns in quite a while no matter what happens {[]
  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    There is a seriously funny trailer up here for the Scotland Italy game, that I wish I could find on Youtube. It's an opera, but sung in the Scots venacular. I'm probably going to miss the game, as I'm unlikely to get near a TV tomorrow. :(
  • SpectreIslandSpectreIsland spectreislandPosts: 274MI6 Agent
    edited November 2007
    John Drake wrote:
    There is a seriously funny trailer up here for the Scotland Italy game, that I wish I could find on Youtube. It's an opera, but sung in the Scots venacular. I'm probably going to miss the game, as I'm unlikely to get near a TV tomorrow. :(

    That is funny. It may actually be a first as opera is concerned :)) I've been reading that your country is all pumped up for the match and I can't believe you're going to miss Scotland's most important game after following this entire tournament :# I was wondering if Sir Sean Connery will be in attendance? Have you read anything about him being there in the Scottish papers?
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