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I've always loved football and always will and certain things in football should remain sacred. I've always believed that an Englishman should be the English coach, and an Italian should be the Italy coach and so on. I watch English football all the time here in the States and I enjoy it as much as I enjoy Serie A in Italy. I can't believe that the FA does not have one English candidate to take over the job and steer the ship in the right direction. Just my humble opinion. I think it's a slap in the face to England and their fans to have someone from outside to come in and lead them when there are plenty of more than qualified candidates at home.
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I think it's a slap in the face to England and their fans to have someone from outside to come in and lead them when there are plenty of more than qualified candidates at home.
I hear where your coming from, and in an ideal world, I'd have an Englishman in charge of the national team. Alas, it's not an ideal world
And at the risk of sounding rude.... as for there being "plenty of more than qualified candidates" - er, no. There isn't even one, let alone plenty. I'd love to hear who you think they are though.
I think it's a slap in the face to England and their fans to have someone from outside to come in and lead them when there are plenty of more than qualified candidates at home.
I hear where your coming from, and in an ideal world, I'd have an Englishman in charge of the national team. Alas, it's not an ideal world
And at the risk of sounding rude.... as for there being "plenty of more than qualified candidates" - er, no. There isn't even one, let alone plenty. I'd love to hear who you think they are though.
It's academic at this point as Capello has signed according to Italian sources, but if I had a hand in appointing a new English manager, I probably would have gone with Steve Coppell as my main man with maybe Stuart Pearce as his assistant or maybe my number two choice. I always enjoyed watching them as players and I believe their honesty, passion and pride for English football would be a boost for the national team in my humble opinion as a non-Englishman. {[]
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It's academic at this point as Capello has signed according to Italian sources, but if I had a hand in appointing a new English manager, I probably would have gone with Steve Coppell as my main man with maybe Stuart Pearce as his assistant or maybe my number two choice. I always enjoyed watching them as players and I believe their honesty, passion and pride for English football would be a boost for the national team in my humble opinion as a non-Englishman. {[]
Sometimes it can be interesting to hear out-siders opinions, and your opinion, however humble, is still valid.
As for Messers Coppell & Pearce - what have they ever won whilst in management ? I don't think either have even ever managed in a European competition - and both failed at Man City. The ONLY Englishman who would possibly qualify on the FA's current criteria for the England job would be Roy Hodgson - and I don't think he's right for the job either.
Jose Mourinho was nailed on for the job, until AC Milan came calling I must admit that, after Jose, my personal favourite was Martin O'Neill. Hey ho !
International experience is important but hardly the only factor. Gaining the respect of the players and fostering a sense of comraderie also counts for a lot.
Look at Roberto Donadoni; he had zero international coaching experience when he was named Italy's coach but was still able to assemble an impressive team and finish first in a very tough group, often without having to use more established players like DelPiero and Inzaghi. And how Jurgen Klinsmann, who took an inexperienced German team farther than they had any right to go in the last World Cup.
I find it hard to believe that there aren't any former international players in England who couldn't similarly step up to the plate given half a chance.
International experience is important but hardly the only factor. Gaining the respect of the players and fostering a sense of comraderie also counts for a lot.
Look at Roberto Donadoni; he had zero international coaching experience when he was named Italy's coach but was still able to assemble an impressive team and finish first in a very tough group, often without having to use more established players like DelPiero and Inzaghi. And how Jurgen Klinsmann, who took an inexperienced German team farther than they had any right to go in the last World Cup.
I find it hard to believe that there aren't any former international players in England who couldn't similarly step up to the plate given half a chance.
You missed out Marco Van Basten too.
Good points, but I just don't see it. The only recent ex-player I can think of is Alan Shearer, and he is too recently ex to fit your list. Others you could mention could be Jamie Redknapp, Tony Adams or David Platt. A couple of those have tried management - and failed - but the England job comes with a whole heap of extras and you have to be one tough person to deal with that.
Good luck Fabio - but I'm convinced it'll all end in tears - as usual !
International experience is important but hardly the only factor. Gaining the respect of the players and fostering a sense of comraderie also counts for a lot.
Look at Roberto Donadoni; he had zero international coaching experience when he was named Italy's coach but was still able to assemble an impressive team and finish first in a very tough group, often without having to use more established players like DelPiero and Inzaghi. And how Jurgen Klinsmann, who took an inexperienced German team farther than they had any right to go in the last World Cup.
I find it hard to believe that there aren't any former international players in England who couldn't similarly step up to the plate given half a chance.
You missed out Marco Van Basten too.
Good points, but I just don't see it. The only recent ex-player I can think of is Alan Shearer, and he is too recently ex to fit your list. Others you could mention could be Jamie Redknapp, Tony Adams or David Platt. A couple of those have tried management - and failed - but the England job comes with a whole heap of extras and you have to be one tough person to deal with that.
Good luck Fabio - but I'm convinced it'll all end in tears - as usual !
Sir Miles, I'm sorry that I wasn't able to bring you any comfort regarding England, I valiantly tried; but you never know, hope springs eternal. You know,of course, what will eventually happen - somewhere down the road England will meet Italy. If England wins, my paesanis back in Italy will brand Fabio a traitor and turncoat, and if Italy wins, the English press will brand him a traitor and turncoat. In the end, both the press in England and Italy will be the ultimate winners, running those stories ad infinitum and Fabio will go into hiding with all those millions of pounds he will be stashing away.
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Sir Miles, I'm sorry that I wasn't able to bring you any comfort regarding England, I valiantly tried; but you never know, hope springs eternal. You know,of course, what will eventually happen - somewhere down the road England will meet Italy. If England wins, my paesanis back in Italy will brand Fabio a traitor and turncoat, and if Italy wins, the English press will brand him a traitor and turncoat. In the end, both the press in England and Italy will be the ultimate winners, running those stories ad infinitum and Fabio will go into hiding with all those millions of pounds he will be stashing away.
Trust me, my friend, I have very little interest in the England national team. If I watch them it's to see how my club players are getting on - ie. not getting injured ! I'm more than happy that England didn't qualify for Euro 2008 as my club players will get the summer off - pity the Spanish qualified, though, as most of my club side play for them
If, and when, England do meet Italy I think Fabio will go all out to beat them - a sort of 'see what you could have had'. He's a good coach and I might just tune in for his press conference on Monday.
Apparently George Burley is interested in managing Scotland. He would be an outstanding choice. Hearts would have been Scottish champions under Burley a few years ago if it wasn't for the interference of a mad Lithuanian. If I was the SFA I would get him right now while he's still keen.
John, looks like you're going to get your wish. Just read that Burley is going to be managing Scotland {[]
John, looks like you're going to get your wish. Just read that Burley is going to be managing Scotland {[]
There's a press conference later on today to unveil Burley as the new manager. I'm very happy with this. There was a growing campaign in the Glasgow press for Graeme Souness, but he's one of the biggest a***hole's in the world. They're all whining this morning because they didn't get their way, but the SFA have got the right man.
Not really het up about it, despite the Beeb's 'Who Will You Support?' trailer. Will catch up with it in Quarter Final times, though living in London should offer me ample opportunity to see it in a national bar eg Frith Street for Italy.
I don't particularly care about Euro 2008 (the only European sporting event at the moment which I care about is the French Open), but I very much hope that France does not win. :v
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I'm quite annoyed that the Netherlands v Italy match is not live on SBS here in Australia. Being of Dutch decent I would LOVE to see that match live! I guess I'll just have to watch until the Netherland v France match to see the mighty Oranje in action.
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It's a bit like watching Hamlet without the Dane himself (not a good analogy as the Netherlands are playing...) but you know what I mean as an Englishman.
Still, glad indeed we don't have the tatty St George flags hanging off white van aerials and lots of pompous talk about our chances as we again underperform...
I am quite delighted that Spain won. I don't really have anything against Germany, but considering that they are triple European champions, they don't need another title. Spain have always been an extremely talented nation, so I am very pleased thay are finally able to win a major title (although they had previously won at Euro 64.) I also really want Rafael Nadal to win Wimbledon this year, so this is a good omen.
Plus, the fact that France did not even make it past the group stage is an added bonus for me. )
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But I have to admit, that Spain was the best team. What the german team is able to do, has been seen in the Portugal match, but unfortunately, they have not been able to show a constant performance in that way.
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I am quite delighted that Spain won. I don't really have anything against Germany, but considering that they are triple European champions, they don't need another title. Spain have always been an extremely talented nation, so I am very pleased thay are finally able to win a major title (although they had previously won at Euro 64.) I also really want Rafael Nadal to win Wimbledon this year, so this is a good omen.
Plus, the fact that France did not even make it past the group stage is an added bonus for me. )
I cheered for the Germany myself, not because I necessarily hate the Spanish, but because the Spanish were responcible for the downfall of my Russian team. At least they fought hard! And yes, I am a yankee, but I still caught most of the football action, and im proud of that!
) Considering that you are triple World and European champions, I don't think you have too much to complain about. :v
"He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
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Roger Moore 1927-2017
I've always loved football and always will and certain things in football should remain sacred. I've always believed that an Englishman should be the English coach, and an Italian should be the Italy coach and so on. I watch English football all the time here in the States and I enjoy it as much as I enjoy Serie A in Italy. I can't believe that the FA does not have one English candidate to take over the job and steer the ship in the right direction. Just my humble opinion. I think it's a slap in the face to England and their fans to have someone from outside to come in and lead them when there are plenty of more than qualified candidates at home.
I hear where your coming from, and in an ideal world, I'd have an Englishman in charge of the national team. Alas, it's not an ideal world
And at the risk of sounding rude.... as for there being "plenty of more than qualified candidates" - er, no. There isn't even one, let alone plenty. I'd love to hear who you think they are though.
It's academic at this point as Capello has signed according to Italian sources, but if I had a hand in appointing a new English manager, I probably would have gone with Steve Coppell as my main man with maybe Stuart Pearce as his assistant or maybe my number two choice. I always enjoyed watching them as players and I believe their honesty, passion and pride for English football would be a boost for the national team in my humble opinion as a non-Englishman. {[]
Sometimes it can be interesting to hear out-siders opinions, and your opinion, however humble, is still valid.
As for Messers Coppell & Pearce - what have they ever won whilst in management ? I don't think either have even ever managed in a European competition - and both failed at Man City. The ONLY Englishman who would possibly qualify on the FA's current criteria for the England job would be Roy Hodgson - and I don't think he's right for the job either.
Jose Mourinho was nailed on for the job, until AC Milan came calling
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Roger Moore 1927-2017
Look at Roberto Donadoni; he had zero international coaching experience when he was named Italy's coach but was still able to assemble an impressive team and finish first in a very tough group, often without having to use more established players like DelPiero and Inzaghi. And how Jurgen Klinsmann, who took an inexperienced German team farther than they had any right to go in the last World Cup.
I find it hard to believe that there aren't any former international players in England who couldn't similarly step up to the plate given half a chance.
It's on Sky Classics right now.
You missed out Marco Van Basten too.
Good points, but I just don't see it. The only recent ex-player I can think of is Alan Shearer, and he is too recently ex to fit your list. Others you could mention could be Jamie Redknapp, Tony Adams or David Platt. A couple of those have tried management - and failed - but the England job comes with a whole heap of extras and you have to be one tough person to deal with that.
Good luck Fabio - but I'm convinced it'll all end in tears - as usual !
Sir Miles, I'm sorry that I wasn't able to bring you any comfort regarding England, I valiantly tried; but you never know, hope springs eternal. You know,of course, what will eventually happen - somewhere down the road England will meet Italy. If England wins, my paesanis back in Italy will brand Fabio a traitor and turncoat, and if Italy wins, the English press will brand him a traitor and turncoat. In the end, both the press in England and Italy will be the ultimate winners, running those stories ad infinitum and Fabio will go into hiding with all those millions of pounds he will be stashing away.
Trust me, my friend, I have very little interest in the England national team. If I watch them it's to see how my club players are getting on - ie. not getting injured ! I'm more than happy that England didn't qualify for Euro 2008 as my club players will get the summer off - pity the Spanish qualified, though, as most of my club side play for them
If, and when, England do meet Italy I think Fabio will go all out to beat them - a sort of 'see what you could have had'. He's a good coach and I might just tune in for his press conference on Monday.
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Roger Moore 1927-2017
John, looks like you're going to get your wish. Just read that Burley is going to be managing Scotland {[]
There's a press conference later on today to unveil Burley as the new manager. I'm very happy with this. There was a growing campaign in the Glasgow press for Graeme Souness, but he's one of the biggest a***hole's in the world. They're all whining this morning because they didn't get their way, but the SFA have got the right man.
Not really het up about it, despite the Beeb's 'Who Will You Support?' trailer. Will catch up with it in Quarter Final times, though living in London should offer me ample opportunity to see it in a national bar eg Frith Street for Italy.
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Still, glad indeed we don't have the tatty St George flags hanging off white van aerials and lots of pompous talk about our chances as we again underperform...
Roger Moore 1927-2017
Plus, the fact that France did not even make it past the group stage is an added bonus for me.
But I have to admit, that Spain was the best team. What the german team is able to do, has been seen in the Portugal match, but unfortunately, they have not been able to show a constant performance in that way.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I cheered for the Germany myself, not because I necessarily hate the Spanish, but because the Spanish were responcible for the downfall of my Russian team. At least they fought hard! And yes, I am a yankee, but I still caught most of the football action, and im proud of that!