OHMSS Question
Mr St John Smythe
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When Blofeld busts Bond on OHMSS, he says that the archives are not in Augsburg but in the St. Anna Kirsch, Sir Hillary Bray would've known.
So, does this mean that Bond was set up, or did the College of Arms really make a bad blunder in the information they gave him? Because the real Sir Hillary did tell Bond that they're in Augsburg, right?
Thanks
So, does this mean that Bond was set up, or did the College of Arms really make a bad blunder in the information they gave him? Because the real Sir Hillary did tell Bond that they're in Augsburg, right?
Thanks
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Fiona Volpe: Some men just don't like to be taken for a ride.
Bond: No, some men don't like to be taken for a ride.
It's actually something some people criticize as a plot hole or an oversight or something-- when really, Bray's only human and there's no need to suppose that he's immune from making mistakes. It just adds to the level of "realism" in the film, in my opinion.
Apart from Tracy being murdered on the wedding day, of course...
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Oh dear. That explains why I never heard back from the fellow after his adventure in Switzerland. Shame, I wanted to show him my brass rubbings...
Firstly The real Sir Hillary says to Bond to try and get Blofeld to go with him to Augsberg, beacuse "the De Blauchamps have been coming from there for years" he never says they were buried there, just that they were born there.
I think it was more Bond's fault, after hearing about the De Blauchamps coming from Augsberg he assumed they were buried there also.
it could have been a blunder, but I think Sir Hillary just forgot to tell him that the De Blauchamps were not buried in the same place as they were born in.
Actually, I never realised that - but I think you may be right. I always saw it as a plot hole
"No no no, Mr. Bond. Respectable baronets from the College of Heralds do "not" seduce female patients in clinics. On the other hand, they do get their professional details... "right". The De Bleauchamps tombs are "not" in the Augsburg Cathedral as you said, but in the Ste. Anna Kirch. Sir Hillary Bray would have known! "
Throw me a frickin bone here. Thanks for nothing Sir Hillary. X-(
At least for the benefit of the film, they could have let Bond stumble on some facts and expose himself as a fraud.
I don't recall if the Augsburg bit was in the novel. Anyone?
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I'm a little confused - are you citing this as a script flaw? Cause that's not how the dialogue goes - I only know this because I always enjoyed that line! Not trying to nitpick, just trying to understand
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Bond responding " No, some men just don't like to be taken for a ride !"
Fiona: "Some men don't like to be driven"
Bond: "No, some men just don't like to be taken for a ride".
A much funnier double-entendre! -{
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Not in that context. Augsburg is mentioned briefly when Bond meets Sir Hilary then again in dialogue between Bond and Blofeld, but the context is not.the same.
It's been a long time since I read the novel proper (though I referenced a part of it in a creative writing course I'm teaching), but if memory serves, the novel suggests they're pretty much on to Bond from the start. They're just waiting for him to slip up to confirm it.