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  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited September 2007
    IMDB.com reports that the accident didn't happen onset like first reported; either way doesn't lessen the tragedy though.



    'Dark Knight' Death Was Not Onset


    A crew member working on the new Batman movie, The Dark Knight, died in a "tragic" accident and not during filming, studio bosses have confirmed. The unnamed special effects expert was following the Batmobile on a racetrack in Surrey, England when the car he was in crashed into a tree. It had been reported the victim was trying to figure out how to film a car chase scene for the movie on Tuesday . But a spokesman for Warner Bros. Pictures insists the accident did not take place on the film set and actors Christian Bale, Michael Caine and Heath Ledger were not involved. A statement reads, "There was a fatal accident at a special effects facility for The Dark Knight on the afternoon of 24th September. A technician on the film died when the truck he was in struck a tree following a test run. Warner Bros. Pictures and the entire cast and crew of The Dark Knight are deeply saddened by this tragedy and their hearts and prayers go out to the family and loved ones of the deceased."
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  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,912Chief of Staff
    Just found an interview with Michael Caine, where he calls Ledger's Joker one of the scariest performances he's ever seen. Caine is on camera with Jude Law and his amazing disappearing hairline; and you can see it all here.
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  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited October 2007
    Hardyboy wrote:
    Just found an interview with Michael Caine, where he calls Ledger's Joker one of the scariest performances he's ever seen.
    I love Caine. He is such a consistently great actor that it's almost scary. :D I can not wait until this film. I do however have one thing to say (like Tony and his Hal Jordan fixation); Scarecrow better be brought back! (I can not stand the way he was inconclusively dealt with in BB. X-()
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  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    Hardyboy wrote:
    Just found an interview with Michael Caine, where he calls Ledger's Joker one of the scariest performances he's ever seen. Caine is on camera with Jude Law and his amazing disappearing hairline; and you can see it all here.


    Thanks for the link, H.B.
    If Caine says that Ledger's Joker is scary, it sort of sets my mind at ease. I mean Michael C. comes across as too direct to have made that up for sake of helping the film. Of course it's just one man's opinion...

    I believe that Heath's performance will compensate for his Joker's controversial look.
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  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    RogueAgent wrote:
    I believe that Heath's performance will compensate for his Joker's controversial look.

    I think you're probably right---or, at least, I certainly hope so! :)

    But then, over the past couple of years I've been quite an advocate of the notion that performance can ably compensate for a controversial (or unconventional) look :007)
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  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    RogueAgent wrote:
    I believe that Heath's performance will compensate for his Joker's controversial look.

    I think you're probably right---or, at least, I certainly hope so! :)

    But then, over the past couple of years I've been quite an advocate of the notion that performance can ably compensate for a controversial (or unconventional) look :007)

    You just had to squeeze that in didn't you? :))
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  • Willie GarvinWillie Garvin Posts: 1,412MI6 Agent
    edited October 2007
    RogueAgent wrote:
    Hardyboy wrote:
    Just found an interview with Michael Caine, where he calls Ledger's Joker one of the scariest performances he's ever seen. Caine is on camera with Jude Law and his amazing disappearing hairline; and you can see it all here.


    Thanks for the link, H.B.
    If Caine says that Ledger's Joker is scary, it sort of sets my mind at ease. I mean Michael C. comes across as too direct to have made that up for sake of helping the film. Of course it's just one man's opinion...

    I believe that Heath's performance will compensate for his Joker's controversial look.


    I sincerely hope that Caine's comment does indeed turn out to be accurate and is not just an endorsement made by an actor closely associated with the motion picture in question.(Not that that's ever happened,of course.:v)

    And frankly,I'm still not too impressed with Nolan's attempts to somehow impose "real world" images and revisionist standards on characters in movies rgar are about a billionaire vigilante who intentionally dresses to resemble a gigantic bat before waging his one man war against the underworld.

    Again,I do hope Dark Knight will be a good film but I'm not sure it'll be a great one, and that's primarily due to Nolan's efforts to run away from the long popular looks of the classic Batman villains.What a shame this is happening.I don't believe in making drastic changes in classics in order for a director to leave an individual mark on a movie.Merely because Jack Nicholson and Cesar Romero wore the traditional Joker costume and makeup in previous interpretations, doesn't mean that Heath Ledger couldn't have done the same and still have been more fearsome and diabolical than those two ever were.In my opinion,facial scars don't make The Joker particularly frightening nor does his intentionally badly applied makeup; they do,however, make him look like a weak imitation of the real thing.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    The Dark Knight Returns to Bedfordshire
    Source: He-Man October 6, 2007



    Bedford Today reports that Batman has returned to Bedfordshire:

    They may be the sort of misleading monikers planted by the Riddler to sow confusion among the righteous, but a clutch of sneaky signposts pointing the way to the Cardington airship sheds are the evidence Batman is being filmed again in the area.

    The signs, which bear the letters RFK, direct traffic off the southern bypass through Shortstown and towards Shed Number Two, where the latest flick featuring Gotham City's black-clad defender is before the cameras.

    Here's the full article:

    http://www.bedfordtoday.co.uk/bed-news/Holy-Batman--the-Caped.3285376.jp
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  • a rogue AIa rogue AI Posts: 128MI6 Agent
    edited October 2007
    There are rumours of a ~ 7' long preview of TDK in IMAX theatres in December. It will probably be the bank robbery scene which was specifically shot in the IMAX format (in 70 mm? I am not familiar with the technical details of imax) and this may be included with showings of 'I Am Legend'.


    http://www.collider.com/entertainment/news/article.asp/aid/5754/tcid/1


    What isn't clear is if that will be a mere preview or a special prologue/chapter 0, just like Wes Anderson did for the Darjeeling Limited with Hotel Chevalier. In the latter case, hot damn. :o
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    The Dark Knight Candle is Really Burning
    Source: Tiberiu October 19, 2007



    On Wednesday, we pointed you to The Dark Knight tie-in site WhySoSerious.com , where a jack-o'-lantern had appeared that looked much like the one used for "Batman: The Long Halloween," a 13-issue comic written by Jeph Loeb with art by Tim Sale.

    If you look again now, you'll see that the candle is really burning down more every day, making it more obvious that something might happen on Halloween.

    Be sure to stay tuned to the site on All Hallows' Eve October 31st!

    http://www.whysoserious.com/
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  • a rogue AIa rogue AI Posts: 128MI6 Agent
    I saw this at superherohype:

    http://www.batmovienews.com/tdk/batman-will-have-scary-white-lenses/


    - Batman will go to Hongkong for some kind of “gangster hunting”, but the producer Chuck Roven won’t tell us why Batman travels to Hongkong.
    - The IMAX preview with I Am Legend is the first five minutes of the film.
    - “The whole thing is not ‘Joker Begins’, because we did not tell how the Joker became what he is”, says director Christopher Nolan. “During these five minutes it is shown how the joker of the small crook becomes the most-dreaded gangster of the city - it is more of a “The Rise of the Joker”
    - Batman’s new mask will have white lenses on the eyes when he turns on the Bat-sonar detection.

    These were auto-translated by a yahoo service, that's why it reads a bit... off. The final point was a long time coming for all us fanboys.
  • taitytaity Posts: 702MI6 Agent
    a rogue AI wrote:
    There are rumours of a ~ 7' long preview of TDK in IMAX theatres in December. It will probably be the bank robbery scene which was specifically shot in the IMAX format (in 70 mm? I am not familiar with the technical details of imax) and this may be included with showings of 'I Am Legend'.

    I'd pay that. Didnt one of the early internet campaigns (the hahAHaHAaHa one have "see you indecember?) in there
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    I recently rewatched Batman Begins and there was something in it that slightly bothered me. I'm speaking of the car. It's not a big deal, but IMO the car wasn't smooth enough. I can understand why the car was so similar to a tank however I'm hoping that in The Dark Knight, the Batmobile is much sleeker.
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  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,307MI6 Agent
    Dan Same wrote:
    I recently rewatched Batman Begins and there was something in it that slightly bothered me. I'm speaking of the car. It's not a big deal, but IMO the car wasn't smooth enough. I can understand why the car was so similar to a tank however I'm hoping that in The Dark Knight, the Batmobile is much sleeker.

    The design of the Batmobile in BB fell in line with Christopher Nolan's penchant for wanting plausible explanations for everything. It looked like a big army vehicle because it was a big army vehicle. I'd expect more of the same from B:TDK; "sleek" is a word that doesn't seem to have a place in Nolan's bat-universe.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited October 2007
    TonyDP wrote:
    Dan Same wrote:
    I recently rewatched Batman Begins and there was something in it that slightly bothered me. I'm speaking of the car. It's not a big deal, but IMO the car wasn't smooth enough. I can understand why the car was so similar to a tank however I'm hoping that in The Dark Knight, the Batmobile is much sleeker.

    The design of the Batmobile in BB fell in line with Christopher Nolan's penchant for wanting plausible explanations for everything. It looked like a big army vehicle because it was a big army vehicle. I'd expect more of the same from B:TDK; "sleek" is a word that doesn't seem to have a place in Nolan's bat-universe.


    What Tony said.

    Of course, I wasn't a fan of the new wheels upon seeing the trailers for BB during the Super Bowl that February but once I saw the movie and the purpose its bulky appearance served, I began to warm to it and now I can't do without it.

    If you really want to crit Batman's conveyance in the theatrical increments, blast the one that Clooney drove. It was cartoonish & tacky. A one-seater that was extremely too long for no reason but now that I think of it, so was Batman & Robin. :s


    I will forever hold the Adam West and Michael Keaton cars as the signature "Batmobiles"...well maybe the '66 a little more. :D

    0227-Batmobile.jpg


    batmobile-512.jpg
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  • taitytaity Posts: 702MI6 Agent
    Aggreed the Clooney one looked like a joke. However the problem with the Adam West one os that would you like to see this one in a fight in a modern movie - it'd be like bringing a butter knife to a sword fight,
  • Honey RiderHoney Rider Posts: 211MI6 Agent
    edited October 2007
    RogueAgent wrote:
    0227-Batmobile.jpg
    {[] That brings back some pretty amazing memories. I used to watch the show, which was really the first time I was introduced to Batman. I think it would be great to bring back that car, if only for one scene. :D
  • Agent_MAgent_M lost in the speed forcePosts: 353MI6 Agent
    edited October 2007
    Any ideas as to what the code at http://whysoserious.com/

    might mean?
    *update*
    its starting to be updated as people upload photos of the letters looks like its going to be a message of some kind
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  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,912Chief of Staff
    edited October 2007
    Agent_M wrote:
    Any ideas as to what the code at http://whysoserious.com/

    might mean?
    *update*
    its starting to be updated as people upload photos of the letters looks like its going to be a message of some kind

    Although, at this writing, the message isn't finished, it spells out "THE ONLY SENSIBLE WAY TO LIVE IN THIS WORLD IS WITHOUT RULES." I was hoping we'd get a picture of Two-Face or something like that. . .

    UPDATE: Now that the message is complete, you can click the message to reveal a new photo of the Joker standing behind what looks like a semi-faceless man. Click again and you can send in a pic of yourself in Joker makeup, standing by one of your city's landmarks. I'd still have preferred a pic of Two-Face.
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  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    Thanks for the update, Hardy- but what is with the website?

    Rory's Death Kiss? What does that mean? Apparently the codename for The Dark Night was Rory's First Kiss...

    This movie gets more confusing every day!
  • taitytaity Posts: 702MI6 Agent
    I got the impression that the Joker was being driven around in a car, and the man in the front was the driver. As odd as that may sound, the seat position lines up with the Joker in the middle or passenger side back seat.

    Wonder what they mean about breaking that one rule?
  • Mr MartiniMr Martini That nice house in the sky.Posts: 2,709MI6 Agent
    Hardyboy wrote:

    UPDATE: Now that the message is complete, you can click the message to reveal a new photo of the Joker standing behind what looks like a semi-faceless man.


    Is it just me, or does the Semi-Faceless man appear to be wearing makeup to? On the top of his forehead there's some blue stuff then on his upper lip it looks like he has a drawn on mustache.
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  • taitytaity Posts: 702MI6 Agent
    Not just you, I see it too.

    I even wonder if this is what the Joker will look like, or is it an eloborate plan to confuse the masses
  • Agent_MAgent_M lost in the speed forcePosts: 353MI6 Agent
    as much as i'm liking the web sites I still think this joker looks too much like the crow for me. but here's hoping there's going to be a bit more than just another photo this time.
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  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    That's a cool pic. Ledger's appearance looks alot more gruesome & haggared in that one and it's more to my liking. TDK will be great next summer.

    Certainly not the classic Joker look that I'd prefer but c'mon now it's Nolan we're talking about here. We should all know by now that the man doesn't like coloring outside the lines...much.

    If you think that the J-Man's cosmetic is a letdown, don't get too excited about how Harvey may look when it's said and done...
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  • taitytaity Posts: 702MI6 Agent
    It should be noted that the Penguin and Catwoman were not like in the original comics - but to many people the images Burton created became difinitive versions of the characters. Especially Catwoman
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    taity wrote:
    I got the impression that the Joker was being driven around in a car, and the man in the front was the driver. As odd as that may sound, the seat position lines up with the Joker in the middle or passenger side back seat.

    They are definitely in a car -- you can see a steering wheel!

    I am with RA - Joker looks great here!
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    Well here's the photo of Ledger that I thought I'd put up for the benefit of those who couldn't click on the puzzle page successfully... *coughs*DAN! :D

    Ledger.jpg

    Again, not the classic look but still pretty cool.
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  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    RogueAgent wrote:
    Well here's the photo of Ledger that I thought I'd put up for the benefit of those who couldn't click on the puzzle page successfully... *coughs*DAN! :D
    :)) Thanks for being discreet. Although, thankfully, Tony was able to help, so I have seen the photo. ;)
    RogueAgent wrote:
    Ledger.jpg

    Again, not the classic look but still pretty cool.
    I like the green hair, but it still looks too realistic for my liking. I prefer the look of the Joker in the Burton film and the TV show.
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,307MI6 Agent
    edited November 2007
    Dan Same wrote:
    RogueAgent wrote:
    Well here's the photo of Ledger that I thought I'd put up for the benefit of those who couldn't click on the puzzle page successfully... *coughs*DAN! :D
    :)) Thanks for being discreet. Although, thankfully, Tony was able to help, so I have seen the photo. ;)

    Again, not the classic look but still pretty cool. I like the green hair, but it still looks too realistic for my liking. I prefer the look of the Joker in the Burton film and the TV show.

    It is a little too unkempt and grungy for my tastes but we'll have to see how it works within the context of the film. Seems to me like Nolan is going out of his way to make him look as different from Nicholson's joker - who was always well groomed and largely wore more stylish suits - while still retaining the basic elements (green hair, white skin, purple suit, etc.)
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