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  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,912Chief of Staff
    Don't suppose you've got a source on that one, Dan? Anyway, I share your skepticism. Given the bomb that was the Halle Berry movie, I don't know that WB or Nolan would be quick to either get Catwoman into the next Batman film or give her her own film. . .unless Nolan, with his mania for realism, decides to do away with the catsuit and present her as the plain-clad "The Cat" she was in her very first comic appearance.
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  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    Hardyboy wrote:
    Don't suppose you've got a source on that one, Dan?
    It was from a local paper, the Herald Sun, which isn't very good. http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24100583-5006023,00.html
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,912Chief of Staff
    edited July 2008
    Aha--this might clear things up! From comicbookmovie.com:

    Angelina Jolie Makes Bid for Catwoman in Next Batman Movie

    Sexy action star Angelina Jolie has inquired about playing the feline role of Catwoman in the next Batman sequel--this according to senior Catwoman actress Julie Newmar.

    Newmar, who made the role famous in the cornball Batman of the 1960s, told the New York Daily News: "Angelina would own the part. My industry friends tell me (she) has made inquiries about the role. I can understand how it would pique her interest. Catwoman is Batman's one true love. She's tremendously popular with women because she's both a heroine and a villainess."

    In this version it's just Angie saying she wants to do it (or Julie Newmar trying to get some media attention) and not anything that's being seriously contemplated--interesting how re-arrangement of materials makes all the difference!
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  • bondaholic007bondaholic007 LondonPosts: 878MI6 Agent
    I have just seen this at the cinema OMG it was the best film I have seen in a long time. Does anyone have a image of harvey dent ? Half burn half normal ?

    Best film So far out of all of them.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited July 2008
    I have just seen this at the cinema OMG it was the best film I have seen in a long time. Does anyone have a image of harvey dent ? Half burn half normal ?

    Best film So far out of all of them.


    Here's a link to the pic:
    http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://blogs.amctv.com/scifi-scanner/DentBurn.jpg&imgrefurl=http://blogs.amctv.com/scifi-scanner/2008/05/brains-behind-iron-man.php&h=573&w=500&sz=109&hl=en&start=26&um=1&tbnid=EUdJnfGgC3yjBM:&tbnh=134&tbnw=117&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dharvey%2Bdent%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4SUNA_enUS283US283%26sa%3DN

    Good to know you enjoyed the movie. B-)
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  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,489MI6 Agent
    I got in free because I was doing a cinema feature and the manager of the 02 cinema in North Greenwich said, you're welcome to catch the film. It was on Screen 11, the largest in London. {[]

    I enjoyed it and wasn't bored ever, but it did sort of seem something of nothing. About 20 mins in it's like, okay, here's the Joker doing his thing again, what's the angle? Turned out Nolan has it as a heavy handed allegory on the war on terror, which I didn't find too convincing. I mean, you could just off the Joker in this film and problem solved to a large degree, whereas if you off an al Quaida leader like Bin Laden there would still be loads of suicide bombers out there...

    It had a bit of the problem of Superman II in that it seems they've tired of the hero very early on and he's thinking of turning it all in to be 'normal'. That's the problem with doing the whole coming-of-age thing, where do you go from there? QoS might suffer in a similar way, the day-to-day heroics may start to seem a bit so-what?.

    Maggie G has a face like the back of a spoon, Bale has a face seen through a fish-eye lens. They looked more goonish than the Joker.

    As for the Joker, well I wasn't blown away by Heath Ledger performance, which at times was simply how Michael Keaton would have played it had he been cast as the purple freak rather than the Dark Knight back in the day. Ledger's Joker has a bit of the Beetlejuice about him, other times it's Brando in one of his flamboyant roles, or a bit hulking Philip Seymore Hoffman. I meet weirder people while out freelancing. There's never any joy to any of his joking, he doesn't seem to really get off on it that much or giggle convincingly or weirdly. His drag outfit reminded me of Bobby Davro dressed up or something.

    Overall I think that Nolan's direction lacks visual flair for all this, it's too heavygoing. It started to feel like a busy day at the office where you're tied up with work and home issues, and it's all a bit rushed but banal at the same time. There's just too much going on. And was it all meant as an apology for Dubya? That Batman becomes unpopular for standing up to scum?
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited July 2008
    As for the Joker, well I wasn't blown away by Heath Ledger performance, which at times was simply how Michael Keaton would have played it had he been cast as the purple freak rather than the Dark Knight back in the day. Ledger's Joker has a bit of the Beetlejuice about him, other times it's Brando in one of his flamboyant roles, or a bit hulking Philip Seymore Hoffman.
    I didn't get that at all. I don't know about Brando or Hoffman (perhaps you could provide specific examples ?:) ) but I definitely didnt get Keaton. If I got anyone, it was Leatherface from The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. ;)

    BTW, I could easily respond to your last comment, but I thought I would be unpredictable and not make any comment about it at all. :v :))
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,489MI6 Agent
    There are some movies where Brando camps it up horribly, not his Wild One persona. But I can't think of one really.

    Keaton - only as Beetlejuice, that persona.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited July 2008
    There are some movies where Brando camps it up horribly, not his Wild One persona. But I can't think of one really.

    Keaton - only as Beetlejuice, that persona.
    I still don't see it though. :v ;) I'm not too sure what I think of Ledger's performance (I think he's very good, but I need to see it again to see how good he truly is), however I couldn't help but think when he went into the hospital that he was directly influenced by Leatherface. :))
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    Maggie G has a face like the back of a spoon,

    :o How dare you, you bounder! I challenge you to a duel. Pistols at dawn. Or sabres at brunch. It's up to you, you villian.
    As for the Joker, well I wasn't blown away by Heath Ledger performance, which at times was simply how Michael Keaton would have played it had he been cast as the purple freak rather than the Dark Knight back in the day.

    Except Keaton would have been funny. I thought this was painfully absent from Ledger's performance, but that is probably down to the Nolan twins not having a sense of humour.
    And was it all meant as an apology for Dubya? That Batman becomes unpopular for standing up to scum?

    Funnily enough NP, Dan and I have been discussing this guy's article.

    http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24099007-5000117,00.html
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited July 2008
    John Drake wrote:
    Funnily enough NP, Dan and I have been discussing this guy's article.

    http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24099007-5000117,00.html
    We have indeed. :D I don't agree that Batman is meant to represent Bush, although if he were, I don't think it's a compliment. IMO the film wasn't condoning Batman's behaviour, but rather was suggesting that good and evil are closer to one another than people would like. Certainly, the good that Batman does is sullied and I don't think that the film supports it (the questionable things that Batman does.)
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • bluemanblueman PDXPosts: 1,667MI6 Agent
    It had a bit of the problem of Superman II in that it seems they've tired of the hero very early on and he's thinking of turning it all in to be 'normal'.

    I got a bit of that Superman II hit too, although I thought the earlier film had a much better love story, and actually had citizenry involved and interacting with the principles at key times to illustrate plotpoints, two things TDK failed at miserably. Even Zod and company bad guys were menacing AND funny. Also had a better timeline for the story in the film, I mean where does the Joker hang out in this oh-so-realistic cartoon world? He comes and goes - with whatever toys he pleases - so easily, sorta trashes the gritty verisimilitude Nolan's going for. Dyslexic film. :s
  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,307MI6 Agent
    edited July 2008
    As expected, TDK vaulted past Spiderman 3 in all time domestic box office for comic book movies ( sorry Dan {:) ) . As of Wednesday, Boxofficemojo.com shows the numbers stacking up like this:

    (1) Spider-Man - $403,706,375
    (2) Spider-Man 2 - $373,585,825
    (3) The Dark Knight - $342,684,300
    (4) Spider-Man 3 - $336,530,303
    (5) Iron Man - $315,064,601

    At its current rate, TDK should surpass Spiderman 2 by the end of the weekend. It's next weekend take will also go a long ways towards showing whether it can reach the numbers of the first Spiderman film.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited August 2008
    TonyDP wrote:
    As expected, TDK vaulted past Spiderman 3 in all time domestic box office for comic book movies ( sorry Dan {:) ) . As of Wednesday, Boxofficemojo.com shows the numbers stacking up like this:

    (1) Spider-Man - $403,706,375
    (2) Spider-Man 2 - $373,585,825
    (3) The Dark Knight - $342,684,300
    (4) Spider-Man 3 - $336,530,303
    (5) Iron Man - $315,064,601

    At its current rate, TDK should surpass Spiderman 2 by the end of the weekend. It's next weekend take will also go a long ways towards showing whether it can reach the numbers of the first Spiderman film.



    YES!!!!!! One Webhead soap opera out of the way....two more to go! {[]
    (I actually like the first one though)

    A DC Comics title is slowly but surely taking its place up the comic movie mountain...as it should...Dan. :v

    Isn't it funny that it's almost been 20 years since a summer blockbuster filled season had so many moviegoers in such a viewing frenzy since...1989 BATMAN?

    The Marvel sisters have taken a blow. The workplace has been going Bat-crazy, they've been severely humbled seeing that Little Hal remains untouched upon my desk. One of them was on the verge of tears! Pathetic! :))

    Now Warner should deliver the knockout punch to these in denial fanboys and announce a Green Lantern or The Flash movie soon. We need fresh franchises, WB/DC and these two characters have the stones to pull it off with the right crew behind them.

    With the success of the Get Smart flick, Peter Segal should get a bit of leeway with the suits in going full steam ahead with the SHAZAM! project too. B-)

    *doing the Batsui*
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  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,307MI6 Agent
    edited August 2008
    RogueAgent wrote:
    YES!!!!!! One Webhead soap opera out of the way....two more to go! {[]
    (I actually like the first one though)

    Clearly, you are not yet strong enough in the Dark Side, my young apprentice. Your nostalgia clouds your judgment; we must move quickly, and eradicate the Spiderman movies once and for all. Wipe them out. All of them.

    darth_sidious3.jpg

    The Marvel sisters have taken a blow. The workplace has been going Bat-crazy, they've been severely humbled seeing that Little Hal remains untouched upon my desk. One of them was on the verge of tears! Pathetic! :))

    Good! Gooooooooooood!!! I can feel their pain and anguish. It gives you FOCUS! Makes you STRONG!
    Now Warner should deliver the knockout punch to these in denial fanboys and announce a Green Lantern or The Flash movie soon. We need fresh franchises, WB/DC and these two characters have the stones to pull it off with the right crew behind them.

    I've waited a long time for this. Once more DC shall RULE the box office!
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited August 2008
    RogueAgent wrote:
    TonyDP wrote:
    As expected, TDK vaulted past Spiderman 3 in all time domestic box office for comic book movies ( sorry Dan {:) )
    YES!!!!!! One Webhead soap opera out of the way....two more to go! {[]
    (I actually like the first one though)

    A DC Comics title is slowly but surely taking its place up the comic movie mountain...as it should...Dan. :v
    Guys, come back to me when, or should I say if, DK overtakes either of the first two Spider-Man films. :v
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,489MI6 Agent
    Dan Same wrote:
    John Drake wrote:
    Funnily enough NP, Dan and I have been discussing this guy's article.

    http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24099007-5000117,00.html
    We have indeed. :D

    That's interesting. Also a good analogy over here would be PM Gordon Brown (zero charisma, introspective and troubled and unpopular) cf Blair or Milliband (wiry, fun types but flakey).
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    Dan Same wrote:
    Guys, come back to me when, or should I say if, DK overtakes either of the first two Spider-Man films. :v

    So, that'll be Monday morning then. :v
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,489MI6 Agent
    Oh, while you're choosing your sabre JD, Maggie also looks like the fat Polish woman who makes my sandwiches at the local BLT... :D
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited August 2008
    John Drake wrote:
    Dan Same wrote:
    Guys, come back to me when, or should I say if, DK overtakes either of the first two Spider-Man films. :v
    So, that'll be Monday morning then. :v
    JD, considering that I'm already fighting this war with Tony and Rogue, do you really want to join in? :v :))
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,307MI6 Agent
    Dan Same wrote:
    John Drake wrote:
    Dan Same wrote:
    Guys, come back to me when, or should I say if, DK overtakes either of the first two Spider-Man films. :v
    So, that'll be Monday morning then. :v
    JD, considering that I'm already fighting this war with Tony and Rogue, do you really want to join in? :v :))

    You're fighting a losing battle Dan. Even if TDK's weekend box office drops by 50% each weekend from here on out, at its current rate it will still make another $70 million by the end of August, and that's not even taking into account what it will take in during the week.

    I don't think it will have the legs to unseat Titanic for No. 1 of all time (more's the pity as that movie is even worse than the Spider flicks) but No. 1 comic book superhero movie of all time is definitely within its grasp.

    So, put down that lightsaber and surrender quietly. :p
  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    Oh, while you're choosing your sabre JD, Maggie also looks like the fat Polish woman who makes my sandwiches at the local BLT... :D

    :)) You've just described my dream girl; big-boned, Polish and looks like Maggie G. She sounds like an angel. I bet she makes the best sandwiches in town, you lucky boy.
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited August 2008
    TonyDP wrote:
    Dan Same wrote:
    John Drake wrote:
    So, that'll be Monday morning then. :v
    JD, considering that I'm already fighting this war with Tony and Rogue, do you really want to join in? :v :))
    You're fighting a losing battle Dan. Even if TDK's weekend box office drops by 50% each weekend from here on out, at its current rate it will still make another $70 million by the end of August, and that's not even taking into account what it will take in during the week.

    I don't think it will have the legs to unseat Titanic for No. 1 of all time (more's the pity as that movie is even worse than the Spider flicks) but No. 1 comic book superhero movie of all time is definitely within its grasp.

    So, put down that lightsaber and surrender quietly. :p
    NEVR! :D I will never give up. :D Although, to be perfectly honest, it wouldn't really make a huge difference as to whether or not DK overtakes the Spider-Man films or not. I hope not, if only to be able to hold it against you and Rogue ( :p), but, unlike some, :v I don't need a film I love to set box-office records. For example Taxi Driver is one of my all-time four favourite films, and I will always revere it regardless of how many people have seen it. :D

    Plus, one last comment; although I will never cede victory in the Spider-Man versus Batman wars, I'm not exactly helping my cause, since I've seen DK and have plans to do so again. ;)
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • Napoleon PluralNapoleon Plural LondonPosts: 10,489MI6 Agent
    John Drake wrote:
    Oh, while you're choosing your sabre JD, Maggie also looks like the fat Polish woman who makes my sandwiches at the local BLT... :D

    :)) You've just described my dream girl; big-boned, Polish and looks like Maggie G. She sounds like an angel. I bet she makes the best sandwiches in town, you lucky boy.

    Her sandwiches are alright but it's a bit awkward with the conversation as we having nothing to say. I sort of watch in silence. She's one of these Poles who go "How are you?" like they genuinely expect a detailed account and it goes downhill from there. My Polish flatmate is the same.
    "This is where we leave you Mr Bond."

    Roger Moore 1927-2017
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited August 2008
    Dan Same wrote:
    Plus, one last comment; although I will never cede victory in the Spider-Man versus Batman wars, I'm not exactly helping my cause, since I've seen DK and have plans to do so again. ;)



    It's the Dark Side making you go back like that, Dan. Whether you concede or not, you will be part of the Bat-lactic Empire. :v :D
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  • bluemanblueman PDXPosts: 1,667MI6 Agent
    TonyDP wrote:
    I don't think it will have the legs to unseat Titanic for No. 1 of all time (more's the pity as that movie is even worse than the Spider flicks) but No. 1 comic book superhero movie of all time is definitely within its grasp.
    So you're saying TDK, a bigass and not good soap opera like Titanic, will nearly make as much as Titanic. Okay. :D It's definitely hit a nerve and found a huge audience, just wish it was a better film. Oh well, there's always QOS.
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    blueman wrote:
    TDK, a bigass and not good soap opera

    :)) With testimonials like that, how can it possibly fail?

    If only more soap operas had a guy with freakish makeup firing RPGs at speeding cop cars...something like that would put "Guiding Light" over the top B-)
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  • General_OurumovGeneral_Ourumov United KingdomPosts: 861MI6 Agent
    I guess it's about time I threw my two cents in, except I plan to keep this rather brief. I'll talk about things I noticed in particular;

    Maggie Gyllenhaal
    Not just the actress, but her boring character as well. I didn't give a damn about her relationship with Batman, and the struggle between he and Harvey for her affections. Much less could I understand why they were fighting for her affections in the first place. Both me and a friend of mine felt strongly enough to turn and actually make a point, during the film, of how Gyllenhaal just isn't remotely attractive. Ugh.

    Batman's stupid voice
    Yes I'm sorry, but once Two-Face and Joker joined in the mix, the film became a 'who's got the deepest voice' contest. Not only that, but Batman himself was just boring.

    Running Time
    ...was too long.

    Heath Ledger
    Played a brilliant villain, but only a sub-par Joker. I refuse to kiss his arse merely because he's six feet under (though I'm not suggesting that's what anyone here on AJB is doing, so don't take that too harshly). I preferred Nicholson's take. Ledger's character was just a psycho who likes to wear fancy dress.

    Those are my criticisms. But if you read them over, they aren't major issues, so despite how that may sound, I actually enjoyed the film a lot as a whole. Some of the action set pieces and direction was superb, and the cast were extremely strong. The star of the show for me was Aaron Eckhart, which actually surprised me somewhat. But Batman is certainly the superhero to beat at the moment!!

    Though, having said that, I preferred Iron Man.

    :) ;)

    Go on, then. Tear me to shreds....
  • LoeffelholzLoeffelholz The United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
    Heath Ledger
    Played a brilliant villain, but only a sub-par Joker. I refuse to kiss his arse merely because he's six feet under

    No tearing to shreds here...merely standing back in humble admiration of your sensitive turn of phrase.
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  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited August 2008
    Heath Ledger
    Played a brilliant villain, but only a sub-par Joker. I refuse to kiss his arse merely because he's six feet under

    No tearing to shreds here...merely standing back in humble admiration of your sensitive turn of phrase.


    I respect your misgivings with the TDK, G.O. but given the circumstances, I too felt that this part was a little...uh, "ouch" ? :s
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