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  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,307MI6 Agent
    edited August 2008
    What are they saying on abm or the equivalent website? Are the Batman talk boards bigging the film up or are there reservations?

    End-user feedback on sites boxofficemojo and rottentomatoes is also really high, averaging with scores in the low to mid 90's and "A" ratings, so the positive word of mouth isn't limited to IMDB.

    Sometimes I think movies like this just feed on themselves and develop their own critical mass as everyone gets caught up in the frenzy; its thus really pointless to try to come up with any rational explanation for its runaway success and only time will tell just how well it holds up. Look at Titanic, biggest box office hit of all time and yet today its something of a laughingstock among moviegoing audiences, many of whom are embarrassed that they saw it and supported it so much.

    As for me, I liked TDK a lot and am glad its doing so well, if only to help promote and legitimize the superhero movie genre - a few Oscar nominations wouldn't hurt in that regard either. But I'm not sure its my favorite Batman movie; and for me it's certainly not as much fun to watch as other recent comic book films like Iron Man.
  • darenhatdarenhat The Old PuebloPosts: 2,029Quartermasters
    Morgan Freeman was involved in a pretty nasty car accident and is in serious condition. Fortunately he seemed to be able to laugh it off while at the scene.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26010759/

    Morgan Freeman seriously hurt in car accident

    Police say actor's car left Mississippi highway and flipped several times
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    JACKSON, Miss. - Oscar-winning actor Morgan Freeman was injured in a car accident late Sunday night and is in a hospital in Memphis, Tenn.

    Regional Medical Center spokeswoman Kathy Stringer said Freeman, 71, is in serious condition. The hospital is about 90 miles north of the accident scene in rural Tallahatchie County in the Mississippi Delta.

    Mississippi Highway Patrol spokesman Sgt. Ben Williams confirmed Freeman was in a wreck shortly before midnight Sunday, but said he was still gathering information and had few details Monday. Earlier reports said the actor's car left the road and flipped several times.

    Clay McFerrin, editor of Sun Sentinel in Charleston, said he arrived at the accident scene on Mississippi Highway 32 soon after it happened about 4 miles west of Charleston, not far from where Freeman owns a home with his wife.


    McFerrin said it appeared that Freeman’s car was airborne went it left the highway and landed in a ditch.


    “They had to use the jaws of life to extract him from the vehicle,” McFerrin said. “He was lucid, conscious. He was talking, joking with some of the rescue workers at one point.”

    McFerrin said bystanders converged on the scene trying to get a glimpse of the actor.

    When one person tried to snap a photo with a cell phone camera, Freeman joked, “no freebies, no freebies,” McFerrin said.

    The hospital where Freeman is being treated is commonly known as The Med, and is an acute-care teaching facility that serves patients within 150 miles of Memphis.

    ...Maybe he should get a Tumbler of his own! We wish you the best, Mr. Freeman!
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited August 2008
    darenhat wrote:
    Morgan Freeman was involved in a pretty nasty car accident and is in serious condition. Fortunately he seemed to be able to laugh it off while at the scene.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26010759/

    Morgan Freeman seriously hurt in car accident

    I just heard about this; I certainly wish Mr. Freeman a speedy recovery. Very unfortunate incident. Thanks for posting, darenhat.


    TonyDP wrote:
    Watch me. This is what happens when Spiderman tries to take on Batman Dan. :v
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    lol!

    I repeat: LOL!!!!!

    :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :))

    That's a pure uppercut. {[]
    Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"

    Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
    -Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,307MI6 Agent
    edited August 2008
    RogueAgent wrote:
    darenhat wrote:
    Morgan Freeman was involved in a pretty nasty car accident and is in serious condition. Fortunately he seemed to be able to laugh it off while at the scene.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26010759/

    Morgan Freeman seriously hurt in car accident

    I just heard about this; I certainly wish Mr. Freeman a speedy recovery. Very unfortunate incident. Thanks for posting, darenhat.

    The fact that he was conscious and communicative is a good sign. I hope he makes a speedy recovery; the next Batman movie just wouldn't be the same without him.


    TonyDP wrote:
    Watch me. This is what happens when Spiderman tries to take on Batman Dan. :v

    lol!

    I repeat: LOL!!!!!

    :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :))

    That's a pure uppercut. {[]

    Maybe the Marvel Sisters will appreciate that one. BTW, did they ever open up as to what exactly happened during their ill-fated protest of Dark Knight on opening night?
  • John DrakeJohn Drake On assignmentPosts: 2,564MI6 Agent
    darenhat wrote:
    Morgan Freeman was involved in a pretty nasty car accident and is in serious condition. Fortunately he seemed to be able to laugh it off while at the scene.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26010759/

    Morgan Freeman seriously hurt in car accident

    Police say actor's car left Mississippi highway and flipped several times

    It looks like Freeman is going to recover, so can I be the one who asks, is Miss Daisy OK? Sorry, had to do it. ;%
  • Lazenby880Lazenby880 LondonPosts: 525MI6 Agent
    Batman is not for kids, according to Iain Duncan Smith.

    For those who are not Brits (and for some who are!) IDS was the leader of the British Conservative party for a couple of years, and he pops up every now and then to comment on mainly political things. He, along with others, has written to the Times to complain vehemently about the 12A film rating The Dark Knight received in the United Kingdom.

    Sir, On Saturday evening, I went with my 15-year-old daughter to watch The Dark Knight, the new Batman film. I was astonished that the British Board of Film Classification (BBFC) could have seen fit to allow anyone under the age of 15 to watch the film. Unlike past Batman films where the villains were somewhat surreal and comical figures, Heath Ledger’s Joker is a brilliantly acted but very credible psychopathic killer, who extols the use of knives to kill and disfigure his victims, during a reign of urban terrorism, laced with torture. It is a relentlessly violent film, filled with dark themes, and as I left I wondered what the board could possibly have been thinking. There is no way that a parent could have been guided by the classification and realised what they were about to see.

    I am not complaining about the film: I enjoyed it and thought it very well made. My concern is that the board seem to have caved in to commercial pressures and forgotten that there is a protective purpose to the classification system.

    Iain Duncan Smith, MP
    Chingford & Woodford Green


    Read the letters in full here.
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    darenhat wrote:
    Morgan Freeman was involved in a pretty nasty car accident and is in serious condition. Fortunately he seemed to be able to laugh it off while at the scene.
    :'( Not good. I hope that he recovers and is back on the screen soon. {[]

    TonyDP wrote:
    Watch me. This is what happens when Spiderman tries to take on Batman Dan. :v
    295778DJLI_w.jpg
    :# :))
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
  • General_OurumovGeneral_Ourumov United KingdomPosts: 861MI6 Agent
    darenhat wrote:
    Morgan Freeman was involved in a pretty nasty car accident and is in serious condition. Fortunately he seemed to be able to laugh it off while at the scene.

    I read that at the time, he was driving a 1997 Nissan Maxima.

    Can that possibly be correct?

    Morgan Freeman driving one of those? :)) :#
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    darenhat wrote:
    Morgan Freeman was involved in a pretty nasty car accident and is in serious condition. Fortunately he seemed to be able to laugh it off while at the scene.

    I read that at the time, he was driving a 1997 Nissan Maxima.

    Can that possibly be correct?

    Morgan Freeman driving one of those? :)) :#


    In Mr. Freeman's defense, it wasn't his car. It belonged to the woman that was riding along with him. And even if it was, it's too hard to fathom that a millionaire might have an older model Japanese vehicle among his collection of cars?


    Hey, don't knock the Maxima regardless of what year. I used to love those cars back in the day. ;)
    Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"

    Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
    -Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    [quote=RogueAgent
    Hey, don't knock the Maxima regardless of what year. I used to love those cars back in the day. ;)[/quote]

    I'm going to hold this against you.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited August 2008
    RogueAgent wrote:
    Hey, don't knock the Maxima regardless of what year. I used to love those cars back in the day. ;)
    I'm going to hold this against you.

    Hey, it doesn't hold much weight but if you please...

    Hey, the Maxima was a hot car to have back in the days. :)) :))
    Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"

    Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
    -Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    What days were these?
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited August 2008
    What days were these?

    Well for me, Night,the mid 80s to 90s. :))

    Seriously, it seemed like everyone owned one back then. It was a good looking car for its time.
    Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"

    Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
    -Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    RogueAgent wrote:
    What days were these?

    Well for me, Night,the mid 80s to 90s. :))

    Seriously, it seemed like everyone owned one back then.

    That makes them the antithesis of cool. Once everybody has something, don't piggyback onto a trend. Especially if that trend is a Nissan Maxima. 8-)

    Do I have to teach you old timers everything?
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited August 2008
    RogueAgent wrote:
    What days were these?

    Well for me, Night,the mid 80s to 90s. :))

    Seriously, it seemed like everyone owned one back then.

    That makes them the antithesis of cool. Once everybody has something, don't piggyback onto a trend. Especially if that trend is a Nissan Maxima. 8-)

    Do I have to teach you old timers everything?


    Oh you mean "trend" like copying Daniel Craig's haircut like everyone was doing after Casino Royale, Night? Like trying to buy his clothes from that film?

    How'd that work for you? :v
    Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"

    Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
    -Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    RA, you have to see the difference between "everyone" and "everyone at AJB".

    And I was getting that cut before the movie was released, so it wasn't after "everyone" did it. Better to lead than to follow, mate.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited August 2008
    RA, you have to see the difference between "everyone" and "everyone at AJB".

    And I was getting that cut before the movie was released, so it wasn't after "everyone" did it. Better to lead than to follow, mate.


    :)) OMG, that's not what you told me. :p

    All this is besides the point anyway; Freeman was in an old Maxima, so what? You want to knock the make of a car? C'mon, Night, you're bigger than that.

    Let's just hope that he recovers.
    Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"

    Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
    -Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    Since you just used the term "OMG", I think I win this argument by default.
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    I think Freeman joking with the paramedics is a great sign, I'm expecting a speedy recovery.
  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,307MI6 Agent
    That makes them the antithesis of cool. Once everybody has something, don't piggyback onto a trend. Especially if that trend is a Nissan Maxima. 8-)

    Do I have to teach you old timers everything?

    Are you even old enough to drive yet? {:)

    RogueAgent wrote:
    Oh you mean "trend" like copying Daniel Craig's haircut like everyone was doing after Casino Royale, Night? Like trying to buy his clothes from that film?

    How'd that work for you? :v

    I want to know how he can afford that stuff. When I was his age most of my wardrobe came from Sears & Roebuck.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    TonyDP wrote:
    That makes them the antithesis of cool. Once everybody has something, don't piggyback onto a trend. Especially if that trend is a Nissan Maxima. 8-)

    Do I have to teach you old timers everything?

    Are you even old enough to drive yet? {:)

    :)) :)) :))
    Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"

    Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
    -Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    TonyDP wrote:
    Are you even old enough to drive yet? {:)

    In most places 'cept where I live. NYC is lame that way. But does that not allow me to have an interest in cars? ?:)
    TonyDP wrote:

    I want to know how he can afford that stuff. When I was his age most of my wardrobe came from Sears & Roebuck.

    I think the key word in RA's speech was "trying". :))
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    edited August 2008
    TonyDP wrote:
    Are you even old enough to drive yet? {:)

    In most places 'cept where I live. NYC is lame that way. But does that not allow me to have an interest in cars? ?:)

    First, be a CAR OWNER then you can slam ones you don't like all you want. Baby steps, Night... :D {:)

    And stop blaming NYC for your ineligibilities. :))
    Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"

    Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
    -Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    edited August 2008
    That's always seemed a stupid argument to me.

    My example: Just because I suck more at soccer, doesn't mean you don't suck at it too, but to a lesser degree.

    Honestly, our entire capitalist society wouldn't function if you couldn't have an opinion on something you don't yet have.

    Besides, RA, you never said you owned the car. You just said you liked it.

    And who else am I to blame for the driving age in NYC?
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent Speeding in the Tumbler...Posts: 3,676MI6 Agent
    Let's just let it go, Night. It's all in fun and getting a tad off subject.

    Like I said, I just hope Morgan Freeman recovers fully to continue on to Batman 3.
    Mrs. Man Face: "You wouldn't hit a lady? Would you?"

    Batman: "The Hammer Of Justice is UNISEX!"
    -Batman: The Brave & The Bold -
  • NightshooterNightshooter In bed with SolitairePosts: 2,917MI6 Agent
    We're more than a TAD off subject, good buddy.

    On an ON subject note, I finally got around to reading the Killing Joke this weekend and honestly- I didn't like it. I preferred Ledger Joker's way of proving the city to be like himself, TKJ's Joker's way of putting Gordon on some demented Roller Coaster was just stupid, IMO, and the fact that you didn't really see the whole visual impact that Gordon did (ie Babs' body was "naked" but completely covered up) made the effect on the reader just that much less.

    Not the classic I hoped for.
  • Agent_MAgent_M lost in the speed forcePosts: 353MI6 Agent
    wow looks like TDK just hit $400 million in 18 days!
    Purvis,Wade...........GRRRRRRRR!

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  • TonyDPTonyDP Inside the MonolithPosts: 4,307MI6 Agent
    edited August 2008
    Dan Same wrote:
    :'( Why, oh why, did DK have to overtake one of the greatest comicbook films of all time (that's right, Tony, you can't deny its brilliance :p)? :# Ah, well, there's still the first Spider-Man film. DK hasn't overtaken that yet, and who knows, maybe it's done as well as it could and it'll soon be going to DVD? :v

    It took a bit to find this post but, oh yes it has. Read it and weep Dan...

    (1) The Dark Knight - $405,699,734
    (2) Spider-Man - $403,706,375
    (3) Spider-Man 2 - $373,585,825
    (4) Spider-Man 3 - $336,530,303
    (5) Iron Man - $315,873,917

    And in case you doubt my good word:

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/genres/chart/?id=superhero.htm

    Dinner time:
    eat-crow.jpg
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,999MI6 Agent
    Saw it last night, and for the first hour or so it's a great enjoyable thriller. And then after that we get bogged down in the moral maze stuff, the Joker's amazing plan baffles everyone, the Joker's amazing plan baffles everyone, the Joker's amazing plan baffles everyone, the Joker's amazing plan baffles everyone, the Joker's amazing plan baffles everyone (yup, I got it the first time too, but the film seems intent on repeating that bit too), and a load of unneccessary stuff (Gordon's fake death, that guy who knows who Batman is/Lamborghini sequence etc.) that really doesn't need to be there to move the story along clogs up the screen for even longer. The viewer is left not even knowing if the film is moving towards a conclusion and has no idea if the film is ever going to end. I felt utterly worn out by the end and I couldn't give a toss if any of them lived or died.
    As for Ledger, he's good, but all the lip-licking felt a bit too mannered to me, and is The Joker really that hard part to play? It's all showiness, really. I think Bale is better, funny voice notwithstanding.

    A great film struggling to get out, and it is great for the first half or 2/3, the rest of it become gloomy repetitive tosh. And I still don't really get why you'd take such colourful characters and drain them of what made them exciting and different.

    Far. Too. Long.
  • Dan SameDan Same Victoria, AustraliaPosts: 6,054MI6 Agent
    edited August 2008
    TonyDP wrote:
    It took a bit to find this post but, oh yes it has. Read it and weep Dan...

    (1) The Dark Knight - $405,699,734
    (2) Spider-Man - $403,706,375
    (3) Spider-Man 2 - $373,585,825
    (4) Spider-Man 3 - $336,530,303
    (5) Iron Man - $315,873,917
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    OOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

    How can you do this to me? X-( You must really hate Spidey to want to rub it so much. But why? Is it because, unlike Iron Man (and Batman) Spidey has real superpowers. Forget the whole suit nonsence, he has spider-like powers. But perhaps it's because, unlike Iron Man, Spidey has a wonderful girl whom he ends up be with (which leads to the extraordinary scene at the end of Spider-Man 2 in which she tells him to 'go for it tiger!'). But, maybe it's because, you know deep down that Spidey could kick the a*** of both Iron Man and Batman in a fight and be home in plenty of time for some home-baked pie from Aunt May. :D

    Actually, although it's undoubtfully all of those reasons, I know the biggest reason; sorry, Tony, your secret is out. The reason you constantly attack Spidey is because you're devastated that, to the non-comicbook reading public, Spidey is an absolute legend, while Iron Man is a b-grade 'superhero' at best, assuming they've actually heard of him before the release of the film. :v :))

    TonyDP wrote:
    Dinner time:
    eat-crow.jpg
    I was planning on eating some nice Spaghetti Bolognise, but I will eat this. (Licking lips) I'm a man of my word. B-)
    "He’s a man way out there in the blue, riding on a smile and a shoeshine. And when they start not smiling back—that’s an earthquake. and then you get yourself a couple of spots on your hat, and you’re finished. Nobody dast blame this man. A salesman is got to dream, boy. It comes with the territory." Death of a Salesman
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